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After making a diving catch, it appeared Wise hurt his right shoulder. Brian Anderson replaced him in CF.

Update: According to Mark Gonzales, Wise has a separated right shoulder and is headed to the DL. Likely out four-six weeks. Owens the favorite to be the replacment.

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Alexei to CF?`
Beckham currently starts at shortstop for the Barons, the same position occupied by Alexei Ramirez for the White Sox. Ramirez started his first year at the position this spring, after playing second for most of his stellar 2008 rookie campaign, and Beckham could make the same sort of position switch if needed. But could Ramirez, arguably the best athlete on the White Sox roster, eventually find himself in center field, if Chris Getz pans out at second base and Josh Fields continues his strong play at third base?

It’s a move that would open up shortstop once again for Beckham. During a brief talk with MLB.com on Monday, manager Ozzie Guillen acknowledged it’s a move that isn’t completely out of the realm of possibility.

“Well, we don’t know,” said Guillen of a possible move for Ramirez from shortstop to center field. "It’s our plans for Ramirez to be the shortstop right now.

“Maybe in the next couple of years or next year, we might change plans. We don’t know what direction we are going to go or how good Beckham is going to be. Really, it’s a good thing for us, a great thing.”

“Alexei will be my shortstop in the pennant race,” Guillen said. "If we are out of the pennant race, then we might change our mind — let’s try this to give Beckham a shot to get his feet wet in the big leagues. Right now, my plans are to keep him down there as the shortstop, and hopefully we don’t have to do that.

“Let’s see what direction we go. Let’s see if this kid can do it at the big league level.”

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090413&content_id=4249370&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 13, 2009 2:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm gonna hang out here. Not as lardy as the GT2...

Much faster loading.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 13, 2009 2:46 PM CDT reply actions  

uh oh.

now a moderator joins an editor in gamethread non-attendance.

by larry on Apr 13, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

1 too many children there.

I thought spring break was over?

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 13, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

apparently not.

hmm. i suppose there must be some fun going on if cheat has “step 1: grow up” on his recent comments list.

by larry on Apr 13, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

another Q! HR!

I’m giddy as a schoolgirl!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 13, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

3 today?

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 13, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Q!? 2

HR: Dye (2, 2nd inning off Miner, 0 on, 0 out), Konerko (2, 2nd inning off Miner, 0 on, 0 out), Quentin 2 (4, 4th inning off Miner, 1 on, 1 out; 6th inning off Bonine, 0 on, 1 out).

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 13, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Many EB hits today. Almost as many as BB's given up.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 13, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Separated shoulder – Steve Stone

by Grinder in Training on Apr 13, 2009 3:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Jeez. Too bad for him. Any word on Wise?

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 13, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hee.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 13, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

thx

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 13, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hello, Jerry.

Hello, Newman.

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

DANKS!

(No, really, who?)

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lillibridge and BA.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 13, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

So who gets called up?

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Terrero?

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 13, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats just MEAN!

didn’t hawk compare him to Yaz as well?

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 13, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

beckham

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 13, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dream on...

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's it say to you?

(Really – what’s your take on it?)

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

not sure i have much to say.

KW seems to want a backup who can play center. we’ll see how long he lasts.

by larry on Apr 13, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Says a bit about the politics.

I’m not sure what.

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

You diagnose over the airwaves?

Nice. Quite a skill to have.

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cheat=Frist.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 13, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

My freshman year I had seperated shoulder, only kept me out of gym class for 3 weeks.. sadly. We were studying wrestling.

"...and when it comes to baseball, we have two favorite clubs: the Go-Go White Sox...and whoever plays the Cubs!!!"

by 815Sox on Apr 13, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

recovery timetable for such thing?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 13, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who knows

killed richie Sexson for a year in AZ…

It’s his lead shoulder at the plate, so it’ll be tested on check swings… Luckily, Wise doesn’t do that often

by The Cheat on Apr 13, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

ha!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 13, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

This bums me out.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 13, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

is this the mature gamethread?

because i’ll move along. it’s not a problem.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Apr 13, 2009 3:03 PM CDT reply actions  

How big is your prostate?

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

And somewhere...

“Joecoolman24”, with his strong of the way Wise “acts”, leaps with joy upon hearing the news

"...and when it comes to baseball, we have two favorite clubs: the Go-Go White Sox...and whoever plays the Cubs!!!"

by 815Sox on Apr 13, 2009 3:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Somehow I have a feeling

it is likely the opposite. I don’t visit the gamethreads often myself, though anytime I have I can’t say intelligent talk was overly abundant. I have a hard time with the game to game fan judgements, let alone the pitch by pitch.

no. a mime is when you don't talk, not when no one talks to you.
by MarketMaker on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM CDT

by jc2313 on Apr 13, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

HSA is the mistress of satire.

Her opinion of herself is, shall we say, quite satissfactory.

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

man, i'm glad i came here first and got the warning about the GTs

btw, what browser do you use, wu?

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 13, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Explorer 7 at work. Why?

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

he wants to be just like you in 60 some odd years

" Cheat I would like to become a managing editor. Email me what I need to do."-by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 1:46 PM PDT

" You've got step one down. Sucking a lot of dick."- by The Cheat on Apr 2, 2009 1:58 PM PDT

by U-God on Apr 13, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah, the one browser that doesn't have a built-in spell check

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 13, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Puls 1

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 13, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

really?

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Apr 13, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're the exception, of course.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 13, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's the MEN he likes with no self-esteem.

Confident women are right up his alley.

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

i see what you did there

rec

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 13, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually, i thought i had the low self-esteem girls to myself.

i’m not happy to hear this at all.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Apr 13, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Magazines don't talk.

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

see, this is what i'm talking about.

if you run around telling people the perks of the low self-esteem chicks, then everybody is gonna be going after them.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Apr 13, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't worry.

the other thing low self esteem chicks like is money.

by larry on Apr 13, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can you rec a whole string of comments?

Awesome.

no. a mime is when you don't talk, not when no one talks to you.
by MarketMaker on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM CDT

by jc2313 on Apr 13, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gollum.

My preciouss…

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I appreciate your saying so, however I was kidding. I had a rather large dipshit call me a dipshit in there....

I think last night’s game thread (singular. one thread. all game.) was a stellar example of what an enjoyable gt looks like.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 13, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

a gamethread revolt?

is there a larryssouthsidesox.com i should know about?

Leading off at shortstop...
Luke Aparicio

by e-gus on Apr 13, 2009 3:10 PM CDT reply actions  

don't tell Jim.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 13, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

TAEG is still on it, too,

so the Administration is still represented.

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

we made a sub teacher in 6th grade leave

she broke down crying, packed up her shit and left.
we had about an hour and a half to ourselves.
it was great.

Leading off at shortstop...
Luke Aparicio

by e-gus on Apr 13, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice.

Weed out the weak ones.

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn’t this good news?

by Ahillock on Apr 13, 2009 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

one thing for a player to play his way out of the lineup,

another to cheer an injury.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 13, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

as much as i don’t want wise in the lineup, i don’t want him out cuz he’s hurt. i want him out cuz he’s terrible

" Cheat I would like to become a managing editor. Email me what I need to do."-by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 1:46 PM PDT

" You've got step one down. Sucking a lot of dick."- by The Cheat on Apr 2, 2009 1:58 PM PDT

by U-God on Apr 13, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only if BA steps up.

And you can’t cheer a Sox injury, unless it’s JO making room for Q.

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

And yet that is what happened.

by Ahillock on Apr 13, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are exceptions?

Interesting.

my president is white.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Apr 13, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's all in the delivery, JCM.

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

BA: 2 walks, 2 SB

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 13, 2009 3:17 PM CDT reply actions  

hgh?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 13, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

i love this headline
Wise separates right shoulder for White Sox
By Mark Gonzales

DETROIT – White Sox center fielder Dewayne Wise separated his right shoulder Monday and will be lost indefinitely.

Wise suffered the injury while making a diving catch of Ramon Santiago’s drive in the fifth and landed on his right shoulder in immediate pain before he was attended to by manager Ozzie Guillen and trainer Herm Schneider.

Wise will be headed to the disabled list. Brian Anderson took Wise’s place in center, and a roster move is expected before Tuesday’s game. The Sox have two spots open on their 40-man roster, and Triple-A Charlotte outfielder Josh Kroeger could be a possibility for a promotion.

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/04/wise-separated-right-shoulder-for-white-sox.html
 

by larry on Apr 13, 2009 3:19 PM CDT reply actions  

The things you do for your team.

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

you and Wiz should get a room.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 13, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

for what exactly?

to play CF?

no. a mime is when you don't talk, not when no one talks to you.
by MarketMaker on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM CDT

by jc2313 on Apr 13, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah, whatthehell,

let’s stick Che in CF right NOW!

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

you just don't get it.

lefty outfielder goes down. obvious move is to replace him with the righty infielder. a blind man could see it.

by larry on Apr 13, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

That must be why my

german shepherd is barking at me.

no. a mime is when you don't talk, not when no one talks to you.
by MarketMaker on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM CDT

by jc2313 on Apr 13, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, so this is where the cool kids go to hang and smoke cigs

And drink Metamucil.

That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 13, 2009 3:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I'll buy. But I have to see some ID first.

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember when Wise hit that homer in the playoffs

That’s probably my favorite memory of him…

I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator

by Nordhagen on Apr 13, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Premature memorial, non? :)

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 13, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

what? oh sorry bout that

i thought this was the guestbook…

I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator

by Nordhagen on Apr 13, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

ESPN had to create a whole new site for hard hitting stuff like this
The White Sox suffered a significant loss today as centerfielder DeWayne Wise separated his right shoulder diving for a ball in the fifth inning in Detroit.

Wise is expected to miss at least several weeks while the Sox look to replace him, perhaps with Brian Anderson.

http://espn.go.com/chicago/columns/blog?post=4065349&name=levine

by Sox-35th on Apr 13, 2009 3:38 PM CDT reply actions  

two a's

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 13, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right.

Google Chrome didn’t catch that….hmm

my president is white.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Apr 13, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

colintj > google

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 13, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

the subject line, for some reason, isn't covered by the spell check

whereas the main comment body is in both chrome and firefox. doesn’t make sense

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 14, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

i'll just type the word i'm bad with in the body

and then cut and paste it into the subject

" Cheat I would like to become a managing editor. Email me what I need to do."-by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 1:46 PM PDT

" You've got step one down. Sucking a lot of dick."- by The Cheat on Apr 2, 2009 1:58 PM PDT

by U-God on Apr 14, 2009 7:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I fully realize that Kroeger is likely to be called up, but

I will repeat that I wouldn’t mind them looking into signing Edmonds to a deal to be the LH platoon with Anderson.

no. a mime is when you don't talk, not when no one talks to you.
by MarketMaker on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM CDT

by jc2313 on Apr 13, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions  

yep, missed that. Did not think

they would go down that road . . .

no. a mime is when you don't talk, not when no one talks to you.
by MarketMaker on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM CDT

by jc2313 on Apr 13, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Painful in more ways than one

Wise seemed like he was coming around: 5 for his last 11, hitting to left, superb sac bunt yesterday, good glove.

Gratifying after he embarrassed himself over the first three games. Kudos to the mgr for the way he handled him.

by EddyStanky'sGhost on Apr 13, 2009 4:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice catch by Wise

Too bad it resulted in injury.

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 13, 2009 6:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Honest question

Not taking into account that the Sox wouldn’t make this move, as it seems they don’t want to add salary and KW stated he’s not looking to go outside of the organization for a CF, but…

Any ideas on how much would it take to pry Marlon Byrd from the Rangers?

I read the fangraphs article posted previously (by Wiz?), and he seemed to be the best option for the Sox mentioned, given that he’s on a one year contract with the Rangers (at least that’s what ESPN tells me), so he won’t be blocking Jordan Danks in a few years, assuming that Jordan cuts down on his strikeouts ;)

Also, I’m not asking this in an attempt to dance on Wise’s grave, as he very well may be back in a few weeks, but just because I’m curious as to what Byrd’s relative market value would be.

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 13, 2009 6:15 PM CDT reply actions  

no, wasnt't me!

btw, post it on the top thread

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 13, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't understand what you mean by post it on the top thread

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 13, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

the floyd can't find the zone thread

this one has pretty much been abandoned due to ghouls

" Cheat I would like to become a managing editor. Email me what I need to do."-by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 1:46 PM PDT

" You've got step one down. Sucking a lot of dick."- by The Cheat on Apr 2, 2009 1:58 PM PDT

by U-God on Apr 13, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the clarification

done and done

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 13, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cool

This should be a regular SSS feature, call it the “Elder’s Sweat Lodge” or something. No animated gifs allowed, and keep off the grass!

As long as Fields keeps playing well I think we can get away with putting a cadaver in CF and still win the division. Fields has been great so far, O and D, very pleasant surprise.

Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2009 6:53 AM CDT reply actions  

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