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Quentin, Konerko, Dye Slug Sox Over Tigers

You can't call the White Sox 10-6 victory over the Tigers boring. There were milestone homers, two of them, back-to-back; an injury at the Sox shallowest position, and a once-every-thousand games pitching performance.

To be fair, Gavin Floyd's woeful 7-walk performance isn't that rare. Major League baseball is littered with the remnants of pitchers who couldn't find the strike zone. But Floyd's outing was just the 5th time in my lifetime that a White Sox pitcher has walked 7 batters and still came out on the winning end of the decision, which works out to about once every 1000 games.

Floyd would not have been given as much rope by Ozzie Guillen at this time last year. But Floyd proved to be a pitcher worth letting work through jams late last season, and the bullpen options of Mike MacDougal, DJ Carrasco and Clayton Richard aren't exactly strike-throwing machines. Plus the Sox offense was giving Guillen and Floyd plenty of room with which to work.

So when Floyd walked 2 batters on 4-pitches in the 3rd, followed by allowing a 3-2 HR to Ramon Santiago of all people, and then walked the bases loaded in the 5th Ozzie gave him room to work. Santiago delivered another blow of sorts in that 5th with a well-struck ball to deep center field.

D-Dub to the DL

Dewayne Wise was playing him the other way, and had quite a bit of distance to run down the ball, eventually catching it while on his feet, but off-balance, out over his toes. It was a great catch, but the aftermath leaves the Sox even thinner at their weakest position.

Wise chose to do a bit of a barrel roll instead of going into a full dive in what I assume was an effort to return to his feet more quickly and hold the runners, but it appeared that he didn't tuck his right elbow in enough on his tumble (video at link). So instead of landing on his shoulder in a well-braced position, his shoulder was pushed in two different directions (up when his elbow first struck the ground, and forward as his shoulder blade followed suit) in quick succession, one of which proved to be too much for Wise's shoulder to take.

Although there has not been official grade given to the degree of Wise's shoulder separation, Bruce Levine speculates that he could miss 4-6 weeks. The injury is to his lead shoulder which is highly stressed when you try to check your swing. A few years ago, Richie Sexson lost essentially an entire season to a similar injury, and the Sox might not have been able to trade for Carlos Quentin had he not struggled through a lead-shoulder injury in '07.

For the Sox, the question now becomes who plays centerfield in Wise's absense? It seems a given that Brian Anderson will be the biggest beneficiary of Wise's injury, as he figures to at least split time with Jerry Owens. But don't count out Brent Lillibridge as an option. It appears that Owens has really found his way into Ozzie's doghouse, as Kenny Williams made the call for Owens.

"Kenny made that decision because we need a center fielder right now," Guillen said of the Owens' promotion. "We’re going to start by keep playing with Brian. ... I have to see how (Owens) was doing because I don’t think he was doing too well in Triple-A, either.

"But when I got to the office, Kenny said (Owens) would be coming for the next couple of days and we'll see how he does. I need a true center field. Hopefully Brian does the job, if not, I’ll give Jerry a shot."

Let me emphasize that Lillibridge wouldn't be in my plans, but I have to acknowledge that he is an option for Ozzie Guillen, who hasn't been afraid to give him two of the Sox first 7 starts in the leadoff spot.

Quentin Quiets Critics

I have to admit that I was still not entirely convinced that Carlos Quentin's wrist was at 100% strength until today. His first two homeruns of the season were wall-scrapers, and a third deep-fly that looked like a homer off the bat-- Quentin thought he got it -- fell into the waiting glove of an outfielder short of the warning track. But his two homeruns into a stiff breeze at Comerica Park left no doubt; Quentin still has plenty of power to spare.

The second homer was particularly impressive and seemed to catch everyone by surprise, as Quentin seemed to cut his swing short and finish with one hand.

Back-to-Back 300 Shots

Jermaine Dye and Paul Konerko became the first teammates in MLB history to hit "double-zero" milestone homers in the same game, and they did it in back-to-back at-bats. Paul Konerko greeted Dye with a simple handshake at the plate after Dye's 300 HR, but it was really fun to watch Dye's reaction to Konerko's HR.

Dye was jumping around like a 6-year old hopped up on his 3rd Dr. Pepper and 2nd slice of Chuck E. Cheese pizza as Konerko trotted around the bases. I think Dye's enthusiasm was masking a tinge of playful disappointment at the knowledge he wouldn't be able to good-naturedly hold his 300th HR over Konerko's head, at least for a few games.

Star-divide

ESPN Launches Another Site To Ignore

The best thing I can say about the new ESPN Chicago is they dodged a bullet when Jay Mariotti signed on with AOL Sports only to get rolled up into Fanhouse. The new site could have highlighted a number of new voices, made a new model for online sports coverage. But at launch, ESPN Chicago appears exactly like ESPN.com, albeit with a Chicago slant; a majority of the links (9/10 of the "Chicago News" headlines) directed back to generic ESPN Content.

They've got a stable of 10 columnists and bloggers, but it's unclear to me why they bothered to differentiate between the two -- though I suspect it might have something to do with voices such as Gene Wojciechowski and Scoop Jackson feeling that "blogging" is beneath them. You can pay bloggers less too; just ask Larry.

ESPN 1000 has 5 linked blogs in the sidebar which combined for 1 entry in the last 2 weeks at the time of launch. They're up to 3 new entries today, as I picture some ESPN 1000 suit running around offices seeking anyone with a teletypewriting internet machine.

I'm disappointed that they haven't chosen to highlight their locally-generated content, and even moreso that their RSS feeds are not author-specific. Bruce Levine is the only writer I wanted to subscribe to, but I got columns from everyone in my reader when I attempted to subscribe to his feed. Unsubscribe. Who wants Scoop Jackson mucking up their local baseball coverage?

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a-hole

what if that was your son? I am sorry, posting pictures of aborted twins is one thing, posting a picture of Wise in pain is another!

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 14, 2009 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think larry was referring to the fact that he posted this originally for his own thread and Cheat quickly took it off the front page in light of his own recap.

However, if larry is commenting that he enjoys seeing Dewayne in pain – yeah, fuck you, larry!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 14, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Everyone interpreting everyone else's motives without corroboration.

America. Where we know everything about everyone, and nothing about nobody.

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly.

We’re a pack of a-holes.

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL. Because you are correct. At least in my case.

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great recap, Cheat.

BTW, this is 2 days Editor larry has been cloaked. (Not by me.) CHINA!

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 8:08 PM CDT reply actions  

LOL!

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

The decision to purchase the contract of Owens, 28, who was 1-for-7 at Triple-A Charlotte, was made by general manager Ken Williams, according to manager Ozzie Guillen, after Wise was lost for at least six weeks after separating his right shoulder while making a diving catch of Ramon Santiago’s drive.

But Brian Anderson, who drew two walks and stole two bases Monday, might get more of a shot at winning more playing time.

"Kenny made that decision because we need a center fielder right now," Guillen said of the Owens’ promotion. "We’re going to start by keep playing with Brian. … I have to see how (Owens) was doing because I don’t think he was doing too well in Triple-A, either.
 
“But when I got to the office, Kenny said (Owens) would be coming for the next couple of days and we’ll see how he does. I need a true center field. Hopefully Brian does the job, if not, I’ll give Jerry a shot.’’
 
Williams and Guillen each expressed their disappointment that Owens didn’t display more intensity during spring training, but both understood that Owens’ personality isn’t fiery.

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/04/white-soxs-gm-williams-makes-call-on-promotion-for-jerry-owens.html

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 13, 2009 8:17 PM CDT reply actions  

I recommend self-immolation.

That’ll cure the “not fiery” tag. And we can all laugh since it will be self-induced.

2 birds, one stone. See, I can learn from kids.

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

So we'll be replacing a .225 career EqA

with a .224 EqA and a .238 waiting his turn.

We should find out if Singleton is tired of his BBTN gig.

by BustedFlush on Apr 13, 2009 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

So, in other words, why should we care?

No appreciable difference. I’ll take BA’s D. Just play a decent CF and don’t hurt us out there.

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

BA is a better option because he's less likely to leadoff

though his 2BB, 2SB performance today might give Ozzie some (wrong) ideas

by The Cheat on Apr 13, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

KW could always trade for General Soreness again

(just kidding)

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Apr 13, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like hell Seattle would give him up.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 13, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

the answer is obvious

SIGN EDMONDS. Seriously, throw a million dollars + incentives at him and get him in here. It might be worth the 1 win that gets this team over the hump.

by madvillian on Apr 13, 2009 9:28 PM CDT reply actions  

beat me to it

is that for real or a gamecast mistake?

FifthFeather.com

by El Duque's Raft on Apr 13, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Real - he actually struck out a batter

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Apr 13, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still don't miss him

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Apr 13, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 13, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gabe Kapler.

He’ll hear it all year from his mates.

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

K'd Kapler

got Pena to pop out

4.2.09 - anno Cutler

by Illini0509 on Apr 13, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

man, there'll be no living with him now

I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator

by Nordhagen on Apr 13, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

not doing it any other way, eh?

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 13, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's also

crushing the ball so far in the season. with Mark Teixeria already out with a sore wrist, Swisher’s been the Yanks salvation so far.

by RollingWave on Apr 14, 2009 4:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

true, his performance today too makes me eat my words. but it's also april

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 14, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

He hit 80 on one pitch.

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Apr 13, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Apr 13, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

http://www.baseballdailydigest.com/blogs/2009/04/13/glad-im-not-gabe-kapler/

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 13, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL, you know, I really have no hard feelings towards Swisher

Things didn’t work out but oh well. In another life maybe…

by madvillian on Apr 13, 2009 9:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Shame - Sounds like KW couldn't wait...

…to bring up a guy no one in the league had an interest in. At least its sounds like the Oz had reached his JO limit.

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Apr 13, 2009 9:47 PM CDT reply actions  

I guess it is... when what your replacing doesn't "appear" to have much value

Though I bet if BA was released like JO – someone would have taken a chance on him. If for no other reason then the age.

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Apr 13, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

BA is not replacement level.

additionally, he has an option left.

by larry on Apr 13, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

KW isn't in any hurry to spend money

or appear in a weak bargaining position

express confidence in the options you have until you find an a better option on the market at a price that’s worth paying

by The Cheat on Apr 13, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know

If I’m KW, and I have all sorts of inside information that we don’t have access to — if that info says that nobody else is looking to sign Edmonds (for whatever reason) and KW goes to Edmonds and gives him a sales pitch — playing time, playing with veteran guys, playing on a solid contending team with little pressure — then I think a move could be made at a price agreeable to both sides.

The economy is still very weak clearly, but it looks like the bottom has been somewhat reached. I don’t think a million or so for another win is a bad buy.

But it’s not my money.

by madvillian on Apr 13, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

What makes you think Edmonds has the slightest inclination to play again?

From what I’ve gathered, he’s keeping busy running his restaurant down in St. Louis

FifthFeather.com

by El Duque's Raft on Apr 13, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Edmonds is currently a free agent. He says he would like to play again, but the 38-year-old feels it would be difficult. “It’s getting to the point now that it’s getting away from me,” he said.

http://www.bnd.com/sports/story/718746.html

by larry on Apr 13, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Danks is about 3 years away?

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 13, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I suppose he is leaving it open for someone to blow his doors off

but how much would a 38 year old Jim Edmonds, who probably hasn’t taken swings since last October, be that much of an upgrade over BA?

FifthFeather.com

by El Duque's Raft on Apr 13, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know, but playing 2 nights out of three he was pretty good last year

If money is no object it’s a no brainer, if it doesn’t work out DFA him and move on, little ventured little lost.

But I have a feeling money is a big object, even the paltry sum (relatively) that he would command.

by madvillian on Apr 13, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

and the fact that we would definitely have the worst OF defense in the bigs

" Cheat I would like to become a managing editor. Email me what I need to do."-by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 1:46 PM PDT

" You've got step one down. Sucking a lot of dick."- by The Cheat on Apr 2, 2009 1:58 PM PDT

by U-God on Apr 13, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

when it would cost more to unimprove

" Cheat I would like to become a managing editor. Email me what I need to do."-by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 1:46 PM PDT

" You've got step one down. Sucking a lot of dick."- by The Cheat on Apr 2, 2009 1:58 PM PDT

by U-God on Apr 13, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's bad,

But BA def takes some of the pressure off of Dye, and come on, have you seen that Nationals outfield? That’s apretty bad out there.

Crazy, crazy, crazy retawded idea that will never happen, but say the Tigers go completely down the toilet (which I think they’re going to). Is it possible they put every player on the market except for (Cabrera) and we go after Granderson? I live in Michigan, and that team is terrified about what the economy will mean to their income this year.

by Obama4cntrfld on Apr 14, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

send em over

We’ll trade em Jordan Danks and Jeff Marquez.

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 14, 2009 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

more likely

they’d put everyone on the market except for Granderson. He’s got a very reasonable contract.

by Off the bus running on Apr 14, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cabrera's

a better player and going to be more productive. By the way, I love your name.

by Obama4cntrfld on Apr 14, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

not if he keeps ballooning he won't.

the tigers needs to get him into better shape or else the last few years of that contract are going to be quite ugly.

by larry on Apr 14, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Tigers have a bad financial situation

coming up for next year. Ordonez is likely going to trigger an 18mil option, they have Willis at 12mil, Robertson at 10mil and Guillen at 13mil. They lost nearly half their season ticket holders this offseason. Another bad start to this year and the firesale would have to be in the works.

by Off the bus running on Apr 14, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

that's probably right.

not to mention that cabrera’s salary gets bumped by another $5M. their commitments for next year are already about $85M – and you’re right that ordonez’ option is likely to vest and verlander is up for his 2nd year of arbitration so you’re probably looking at least another $5-6M there. laird will add another $4M.

they’re effectively at around $110M in certain and “likely” commitments. illitch has deep pockets for sure. but even guys who have deep pockets don’t like losing money into the tens of millions when what is being produced is shitty.

by larry on Apr 14, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I saw Tom Hicks' investment group has been called out by creditors

today and is in technical default on their loans. Owners are hurting, too.

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

What the heck was that!!?

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 14, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Never a big BA fan, but...

…Almighty God, once again BA is being given a chance to prove that he’s not a total jackass. What do you say to .276, 11 homers, less than 100 K’s and however-many RBIs in return for abstinence or self-pleasuring only for the remainder of the season? C’mon God, cut us some slack.

by RoyEgan on Apr 14, 2009 9:24 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Funny. You starting a contest?

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2009 10:51 AM CDT reply actions  

To Roy.

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

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