The Not-So-Secret Key to Prospect Evaluation
I bet you thought I'd never get around to finishing this series...
Statistical Prospect Evaluation Primer: Part 4
The title of this post is a bit of a misnomer; there is no secret to prospect evaluation. You need the input of (multiple) scouts, your own observations, and finally statistical evaluation like I've presented in this series.
But there was one aspect of prospect evaluation I purposefully left out of the first three parts, probably because it seems wholly obvious.
Improvement
Each level of the minor leagues provides an ever increasing level of competition which acts as a giant filter for minor league clubs. For the most part, only those able to conquer A ball are allowed to advance to High-A, and those who conquer High-A allowed to advance to AA, and so on. This ensures only the cream of the crop even gets a shot at the major leagues.
Because each level provides an increased challenge, a prospect who maintains good production from year-to-year while advancing a level is often considered a good candidate for future major league success. But no prospect is perfect; they all have weaknesses, areas in which they can improve. And it's that improvement, that year-to-year improvement, that I love to find in a prospect.
I like to think of improvement, statistically observable tools progression, as the 6th tool. There is a large jump in competition between the majors and minor leagues, and a prospect who has demonstrated the ability to improve their game while in the minors (I believe) is more likely to be able to adjust to that jump in competition.
Put simply, I believe learning and adjustment is a skill. Some players have it, others don't.
After the jump, I take a look at the minor league careers of 4 current White Sox players to illustrate my point.
John Danks
John Danks minor league career provides a great illustration why you should ignore W-L record and ERA. He posted minor league career ERA of 4.20 with a dismal 21-30 record. If he can't even win minor league games or hold a bunch of wannabes to under 4 runs a game, how can possibly project him to have future major league success?
First, and maybe most importantly, he was exceptionally young for his league at every step. He also posted very good strikeout rates (9.3 K/9) and a K/BB ratio approaching our magic 3:1 at 2.80. But it's when you look more closely at Dank year-to-year and level-to-level progression that his improvement becomes apparent.
Danks received mid-season promotions every year in the minors, and almost always struggled with his control in his initial tour of a new level, only to show great improvement in a return trip to that level the following year. So while Danks didn't quite meet my magic 3:1 K/BB ratio for his minor league career, he always posted marks well above 3:1 on his return trip to a level.
Danks demonstrated the ability to learn, to adapt at the minor league level all while being young for his league. Combined with the excellent scouting reports, Danks was exactly the type of pitcher you'd expect to be able to make the adjustments to make a successful jump to the majors, as we've seen first hand with his addition of the cutter.
Paul Konerko
I almost feel guilty using Paul Konerko as an example in a piece like this. His pedigree as a top 10 pick and minor league career is that of a can't miss prospect, which is how he ended up ranked as the #2 prospect in all of baseball prior to the '98 season. But now that the White Sox have a number of legit prospects, this is the type of minor league career we're looking for.
Konerko began his minor league career as an 18 year old in short season ball, displaying a little power. His strikeout rate (17%) was a little high, but he was extremely young for his league. With a jump to high-A, an aggressive jump for a high-school draft pick, Konerko held his K-rate steady, flashed some more power and earned a promotion to AA the next year.
AA is often referred to as a litmus test for prospects, and Konerko passed with flying colors. He lowered his K-rate to 15%, raised his walk-rate to 13%, and upped his power yet again. And with his final full-season AAA, Konerko advanced even further. His cut his K-rate to under 11% and raised his walk rate to reach the magical 1:1 ratio. Oh, and he had 69 extra-base hits, including 37 HRs, although he was playing in one of minor league baseball's best hitter's parks. Konerko had advanced to become a darling of both scouts and stat-heads alike.
Brian Anderson
Now that we've seen what a couple of high-first-round success stories look like, let's take a look another first rounder who hasn't quite fared as well. Brian Anderson was never my favorite prospect, but searching the archives here you'll probably find me ranking him ahead of Chris Young and Ryan Sweeney, both of whom I liked better (long-term) than Anderson. The reason being, Anderson appeared to do everything well, and while I never thought he would be an All-Star, I thought he would be an adequate major league regular. I was wrong. Let's see why.
In his first full season, Anderson was assigned to high-A, which is the safe choice for your first-round collegiate picks. Anderson performed exactly how you'd expect from a blue chip prospect, posting solid walk (>10%) and strikeout rates (~15%), and earned a mid-season promotion to Birmingham. While Anderson's average and ISO took a bit of a hit after the promotion, his strike zone control remained good, or at least consistently adequate.
A year later at AAA, Anderson's OPS rebounded above his AA levels, but there was a great big ole warning sign in the form of a drastically increased strikeout rate, now around 22%. I was fooled. I saw an .800+ OPS from a plus-defensive CF, and figured he could easily replace the .736 Aaron Rowand provided in '05. And if he couldn't, I figured Young, who I liked better, but was not without flaws, would be ready to take his place for '07.
What I missed, or rather what Anderson never demonstrated over the course of his minor league career, was an ability to adjust to a jump in competition level, to learn from his failure. The Brian Anderson who broke camp with the '09 White Sox remains very much the same one the White Sox drafted in '03. I've never trusted a prospect who didn't show me some improvement since.
Chris Getz
Finally, we get to the long awaited reasoning behind my confidence in Chris Getz. He received an aggressive assignment to A-ball as a 4th round draft-pick, where Getz quickly proved he had an advanced approach at the plate posting a 10/35 K/BB ratio.The Sox took notice and skipped him over high-A (where you often see college first rounders sent) to AA in his first full-season.
Getz would struggle to hit the ball with any authority in Birmingham's expansive outfield, but still demonstrated excellent strike zone control with more walks than strikeouts. He returned to Birmingham the next season, and immediately showed better results at the plate while maintaining his positive plate approach. He would have been a candidate for a mid-season promotion, but injury would delay his AAA debut for another year.
Last season in AAA, Getz saw his K/BB numbers continue to trend in the wrong direction. But at 53/41 in 457 plate appearances, his K-rate remains well under the 15% danger zone and his BB-rate is close to 10%, .
The move to Charlotte's smaller ballpark also helped in the ISO category, as Getz saw a large spike in the HR and XBH categories. Though it's unclear how much of that spike can be attributed to a hitter-friendly ballpark.
Getz is far from a sure thing as a prospect, and his K and BB rates have actually trended in the wrong direction as he climbed the minor league ladder. But his rebound performance in AA, increased ISO in AAA, and K/BB ratio near 1:1 led me to believe he was the White Sox' best 2B candidate in February. And while he doesn't figure to be a star, his advanced approach at the plate and propensity to do of the little things leaves him in a good position to provide quaility at-bats for the Sox in the short term with a fall back of grindy utility player in the long-term.
There is still one last piece in this series which will highlight what we should be watching for in the box scores of current White Sox prospects. Both Jim and Larry have briefly covered this, but I'd like to have a more comprehensive list/post. Hopefully it will find its way to the blog in the next month, probably on an off-day like today.
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I was beginning to lose confidence myself
the tables (which I assumed would take the bulk of the time) were done 10 days ago…
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by The Cheat on Apr 14, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd actually forgotten about the whole series. not that it wasn't interesting and informative, but once the season started...
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Apr 14, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you'd never get around to finishing this series...
good stuff!
by Trooper on Apr 14, 2009 10:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
so Brandon Allen
= BADASS ?
Leading off at shortstop...
Luke Aparicio
by e-gus on Apr 14, 2009 11:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's got to be my favorite non-beckahm prospect
I didn’t check the B’ham box yet tonight, but it sure appeared like he was further cutting down on the K’s this season in the first week…
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by The Cheat on Apr 14, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Allen: 0-4, 3 K's
Just kidding, I don’t think they played tonight.
my president is white.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Apr 14, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
that would be funny as hell though
It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by ElDiablo on Apr 14, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He certainly is getting interesting.
Would be fabulous if he could step right in in a year or two. I’m starting to feel real good about his chances.
by dantesox on Apr 15, 2009 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
solid series Cheat..
Can’t wait for the finale.
Sidenote: Cheat…. How happy are you to have a group of fantastic editors who contribute so much quality content to the site that, you get to go off and write top notch shit like this? I feel like this is a series that you’ve wanted to write for a while…..
It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by ElDiablo on Apr 14, 2009 11:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is that a theoretical question?
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by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Apr 15, 2009 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not sure if i missed this elsewhere
but Joe Crede, Mr. Clutch struck again knocking in Morneau to win in the 11th tonight.
The bastard.
Leading off at shortstop...
Luke Aparicio
by e-gus on Apr 14, 2009 11:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for this Cheat...
Great series.
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Roland Burris
by Chiburb on Apr 15, 2009 7:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cheat freed from the shackles of daily mundane recaps FTW.
Nice job. Site value increasing.
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by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Apr 15, 2009 7:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
cheat is more than just a seamhead wu, he can dish it out too
i suggest he write up the next fanpost on julia allison and related trashy gossip
by onlysoxfaninboston on Apr 15, 2009 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
These have been..
a great read, Cheat. Many thanks.
by palehose67 on Apr 15, 2009 8:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the SPEP again
these should be in a wiki here.
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by Nordhagen on Apr 15, 2009 8:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great article - thanks for sharing
On the topic of prospect evaluation, I am curious what you think about Adam Russell. I remember seeing him in a couple games last year and being really impressed. He had a great fastball, but what I remember best was a situation where he got ahead in a count and then dropped down on the next pitch and threw a nasty slider to get the K. Why is the arsonist up in the majors if we have relievers with that stuff? Is he still a prospect? Thanks
by the_steve on Apr 15, 2009 8:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The arsonist has great stuff...
If that’s what your looking for, you won’t do much better than McDougal.
by Grinder in Training on Apr 15, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not the cheat
but the problem with russell is that he’s really just one pitch: fastball. sure, he’ll flash a plus curve or even a slider occassionally but not consistently. and his pitches aren’t good enough overall to get a lot of strikeouts. his lack of movement on his pitches makes him relatively easy to make contact off of so he gives up hits and he walks too many to get away with all of this. plus, he has had trouble repeating his delivery. i understand that’s what he’s working on in AAA.
by larry on Apr 15, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't much of a fan
until I saw him in ‘07 spring training. I could see a future for him as a late-inning bullpen guy. Like you said, he just hasn’t developed his breaking stuff to miss bats. It just rolls up there, and the only reason hitters miss it is because their surprised by the speed difference.
He’s a replacement level reliever with some upside. But I no longer think of that upside as future closer and more as future bullpen fodder.
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by The Cheat on Apr 15, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice series cheat
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by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by Tdogg on Apr 15, 2009 9:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Big PP day today for you, B.
;)
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by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Apr 15, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this series was the greatest thing ive ever seen on SSS. learned a lot.
next to that animated, puking dog gif last season.
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by thecip on Apr 15, 2009 10:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great series Cheat
Gonna be tough to top this. ..
Maybe an analysis of Carl Weathers movie career? Since we’re in Detroit, may I so bold as to suggest you start with “Action Jackson”.
Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.
by ChicagoPete on Apr 15, 2009 11:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was hoping for a memorial tribute to the films of the late Marilyn Chambers.
Pre-1981, of course.
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by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Apr 15, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes! "Insatiable" was the best, 1980.
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Roland Burris
by Chiburb on Apr 15, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah what a sweet read, great stuff
thank you very much man
by LT_sox_fan on Apr 15, 2009 12:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nice series cheat
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by The Wizard on Apr 15, 2009 9:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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