Josh Fields: Not Bad
It's still early, but Fields is playing -- and moving -- better than anybody could have expected. Fields joined Kansas City's Coco Crisp as the only American League players with multiple triples after his three-bagger Thursday night, which was one of three hits on the day.
So far, he's checked every necessary improvement box:
- He's cut his strikeouts by half from last season, because...
- ...he changed his stance, which is helping him get around on fastballs quickly enough to at least use right-center.
- He's smoother in the field thus far.
- He's able to move more than one base at a time.
His track record says he's in for regression, but this was a small sample size Fields needed to nail. Starting the season with 37 excellent plate appearances may have changed the course of his season, considering how much confidence his bosses have in giving him greater offensive responsibilities.
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Is the ball juiced again?
Thought you might like to hear about something I’ve been following for the first week of the season. I began wondering at the large number of long home runs being hit in the first two full days of the season, and started watching the numbers closely. The distance of the home runs being hit this year (the true distance, i.e where they actually land, as well as the standard distance, which factors out weather and altitude) is significantly higher than last year, with the average standard distance being 8.5 feet longer this year than last…
…The p-value actually works out to 0.0000341, which is a very strong indicator that something is making 2009 home runs fly farther than 2008 home runs, in isolation of the weather, and to me that implicates the ball. In the course of observing all the homers, I have also heard lots of comments from announcers who were surprised at how far the ball had carried.
Greg from Hit Tracker via Tango
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Very interesting
no. a mime is when you don't talk, not when no one talks to you.
by MarketMaker on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM CDT
Was it the balls that were juiced last time?
Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"
..........or it was steroids
Year AL NL MLB
1993: 2074, 1956, 4030
1994: 1774, 1532, 3306*
1995: 2164, 1917, 4081
1996: 2742, 2220, 4962
1997: 2477, 2163, 4640
1998: 2499, 2565, 5064
1999: 2635, 2893, 5528
2000: 2688, 3005, 5693
2001: 2506, 2952, 5458
2002: 2464, 2595, 5059
2003: 2499, 2708, 5207
2004: 2605, 2846, 5451
2005: 2437, 2580, 5017
2006: 2546, 2840, 5386
2007: 2252, 2705, 4957
2008: 4878
*1994 was a strike-shortened season
Kenny Williams is a Top 5 GM
good old fashioned frontier gibberish
"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313
by U-God on Apr 17, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sample Size?
Wouldn’t you at least wait a month to match data like that? One big week from Adam Dunn could skew a week’s worth of data.
by Off the bus running on Apr 17, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I read it
I just don’t see how you can find statistically significant information off of one week’s worth of data. When comparing a full season worth of data against any single week, anomalies can exist. I would wait for at least a full month before stating that the ball is juiced.
by Off the bus running on Apr 17, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
as for me, I'm just waiting to see it covered on All Baseball Blogging
I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator
Jewshhd.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Apr 17, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm certain of that
I just don’t see how conclusions can be drawn on a week’s worth of games. Does that make sense to you?
by Off the bus running on Apr 17, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the point is the distance bus
even with the limited data you can draw standard deviations and conclude something may be wrong.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
Greg himself wondered if it made sense
All of your concerns are addressed in the letter.
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Yes it does
look at the confidence intervals . . . even with the limited data, you can be 95% confident of what was presented. There is that small chance it is outside the C.I., but 5% is fairly unlikely.
no. a mime is when you don't talk, not when no one talks to you.
by MarketMaker on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM CDT
From expectations
A+ for Fields so far.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
Dave Cameron:
This year, however, that doesn’t seem to be the case. MLB is averaging 4.96 runs per game so far in 2009, up from a league average 4.65 runs per game in 2008. It’s pretty rare to see run scoring in April higher than the league average from the previous season.
The main culprit appears to be a rise in home run rate. Last April, there was ahome run hit every 43 plate appearances. That number ended the season at one per 38 PA, as the ball flew better in warmer weather. So far this year, we’re at one home run per 34 plate appearances, accounting for 311 total home runs to date. At last year’s pace, we’d only have 248 home runs.
According to Greg Rybarczyk, who runs Hit Tracker Online, it isn’t just the number of home runs being hit either – the home runs are flying further than they used to, by an average of 8.5 feet per home run. Even with a limited sample, the probability of a deviation of that kind of distance is extremely unlikely to be caused by random chance.
After seeing run scoring levels decrease the last few years, we might be in for a spike in 2009. It’s worth monitoring, at least.
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Greg Walker will brush this and similar stats aside
he judges by looking. By looking he can’t tell if Dye’s HR this year are on average 8 feet longer … so don’t interrupt him with useless crap like this, right now he is staring at Alexei who needs a bit of help at the plate
I take this as good news for our boys.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
so would that mean you expect even more HR from the Sox relative to the rest of the league
implying that the Sox would experience a particularly great multiplier? so teams under normal circumstances that hit the most home runs also miss the most by the least? i think that makes sense.
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yep that's my thinking
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
he really spelled it out there, huh? i think we were all following your train of thought. and i agree.
Cashing checks and having sex.
I would agree with that as well
Especially considering that we play in the launchpad that is The Cell
"...and when it comes to baseball, we have two favorite clubs: the Go-Go White Sox...and whoever plays the Cubs!!!"
do you guys have a link, or can write it here, explaining why exactly is the cell great for HR
or is this based solely on year by year stats of HR hit in a stadium. Maybe we just have that type of hitters: great power but not great average.
I am assuming it is park’s dimensions, but would be interesting to see the exact reasoning(s)…
its just too bad runs per game have been higher in April than May this millenium
April 9.55 runs per game
May 9.43 runs per game
the numbers are only slightly elevated, not even .5 runs per
here comes hsa bumbling and tumbling home!!!
oh she’s out
by furby2056
This is what happens when Carlos Quentin doesn’t have to sit out the first two games of the season.
by Grinder in Training on Apr 17, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
More HRs = More Excitement =
More Fans =
Smaller revenue dropoff in worst recession in 75 years.
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
Stone had an interesting comment late in the game
might have come during or after Fields’ last AB, pointing out that he’s finally got healthy knees and that those can, you know, help you hit better.
Eye surgery probably didn't hurt either.
When your trying to catch up with a fastball I imagine it has to help if you can see it.
Just a lot of stuff gone right for the guy, new stance, new eyes, new knee, I don’t think anyone thought he’d start out this well, but I think most of us assumed he’d be closer to 2007 then 2008.
by Grinder in Training on Apr 17, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Look at his graphs for 09
He’s a line drive monster so far
http://www.fangraphs.com/graphs.aspx?playerid=7490&position=3B&page=1&type=mini
more fangraphs?
he’s striking out a ton, still, but he’s cut it down somewhat while his walk rate has improved drastically. his BB/K has doubled to .56 from .28 in 2007. his BABIP is ridiculous.
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also i kind of want to talk about the stance thing
he doesn’t have a new swing. stances change somewhat regularly if watching the Sox are any indication. the basics of your swing mechanics usually don’t.
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What was/is the mechanical flaw that prevented/prevents him from catching up to FBs?
Obviously his swing is too long. But anyone got anything specific? I’d imagine that the crouch is more of an attempt to stay closed on breaking balls and offspeed pitches. But coupled with a shorter swing (See, Quentin, Carlos) I’d expect vastly improved results.
I've seen him move his hands back at the start of his swing...
I don’t know if that’s it, and I know other people do this as well, but it seemed really pronounced with him. I would think moving the hands back gives him more to do when swinging and so he can easily be late on a fastball if he mistimes it.
Just my guess.
by hitlesswonder on Apr 17, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm also wondering if his new approach is going to sap any of his power
in the early going his ISO is about .160 compared to .240 in 2007. Obviously there’s some big sample size issues at play (with both the 2007 and 2009 numbers) but going forward, I’ll be interested in seeing (a) if the ISO drop with corresponding increase in BA and OBP is for real, and (b) if (a) holds true, is the (presumable) gain in OBP worth the loss of power.
OBP is always better than SLG
Especially in this lineup.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Apr 17, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't know about you,
but in a comparative sense, I’ll take this model.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Apr 17, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Well of course...
but “this model” includes, as colin notes, a .500 BABIP. So when the hot streak ends, what will “this model” look like? That’s not a snarky question, either. I’m curious (not that it’s a question that anyone can answer as of today).
using his present BB and K rates, w/ 20 HR and 20 2B and .315 BABIP
i get .240/.350/.430
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Boy, that's awfully close to what I had at the start of the season.
I hope to be disappointed.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
that's basically what i have.
as colin points out below, that would be about an average player. which is fine with me.
which is a ~.340 wOBA
and if instead of -10 he’s a -5 at 3rd this year, that’s ~1.8 WAR
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He's hitting a ton of line drives.
His batted ball graph from ’07 is very interesting. Look at all the fly balls he hit at the expense of line drives.
This year he’s just hitting a bunch of line drives. I don’t think he can keep it up. But he certainly seems to be an improved hitter over the 07 version.
and if you look at 07 it's a great visual to see his BABIB sink almost perfectly
in sync with his LD rate.
most of the recent work on BABIP
has shown that the LD+.120 was shite. and i don’t think LD rate was all that big a deal in the multi-variable regressions.
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just read THTs article on it. Interesting
I never really liked the LD+.120 rate fantasy fanboys started throwing around at the beginning of last season
hey, next you time you quote greg walker's words of wisdom in your title give him credit
“stance, mechanics. whatever.” is the same advice he gave in spring training ’07.
i'm failing to see your point. one does not necessarily need to make radical changes to see improvement.
i just said i didn't see it was that different
something that would change the swing.
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not much of substance:
the link that i’m sure you’ve seen. am i being inconsistent?
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It might not even be about trying to bat better
he might have piles and is just trying to get more comfortable
I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.
Typically English - always going for the ass.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Apr 17, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
For me, Fields was the big wild card this year
Coming in you knew CF was going to be a black hole. 2B, I figured about average to a little below average production – Getz had pretty steady put unspectacular minor league numbers. But Fields has been a hugely pleasant surprise so far – I don’t think he’ll have a monster year like Q did, but he looks like he can have a pretty major positive impact on this season.
I love young players, they’re the ones who can really surprise you in a good way.
Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.
Well, sometimes the old guys do, too, by not sucking as much as projected.
But it is less surprising, since you’ve got some history to go by.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Apr 17, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
stop tooting your own horn
:p
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Playoffs at the UC
http://smellslikemascot.blogspot.com/2009/04/playoffs-at-uc.html
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
I couldn't stay up for the whole thing
I’m getting older, of course the three 7.0 IPAs I consumed last night didn’t help
"...and when it comes to baseball, we have two favorite clubs: the Go-Go White Sox...and whoever plays the Cubs!!!"
Shit actually
make that
2 Two Hearteds = 7 ABV
1 Founders IPA = 7.2 ABV
"...and when it comes to baseball, we have two favorite clubs: the Go-Go White Sox...and whoever plays the Cubs!!!"
Probably more exciting in person
ended up driving back to CU the same night and couldn’t fall asleep due to excitement.. love me some IPAs but can’t drink more than a handful of them
4.2.09 - anno Cutler
have you been to county market?
they have a solid beer selection
"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313
would make more sense
i live 2 blocks down the street from county
getting some Dead Guy Ale this afternoon
"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313
i'm guessing you're talking about
the new one on springfield? just picked some stuff up from there
4.2.09 - anno Cutler
yeah
i live up here on the north end of champaign. the only things priced fairly there are booze and gatorade
"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313
springfield avenue is not anywhere near the north end of champaign
i suppose it is somewhat near the north end of campus however.;)
brian anderson would've caught that...
you know what i meant
and i do like this Dead Guy Ale
"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313
rogue and stone are two of my favorite breweries, especially rogue
Their chocolate stout is amazing. I’m not a fan of overly chewy stouts, but theirs has a really nice clean finish. Great treat beer.
Any of you guys in chicago make sure to get to the Map Room ASAP. I haven’t found anything in NYC quite up to bar with the Map Room.
We have this place called Hop Devil in the east village that’s cool, but not nearly as many beers on tap as the map room, similiar ambiance though
map room is meh to me.
great beer selection, but i find no other redeeming qualities about that place.
Cashing checks and having sex.
seconded
but i’ve only been there during holidays and each time felt squeezed in like a sardine
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Apr 17, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
free pool
i used to go there a couple years ago, and it was the kind of place where you could just show up, shoot some free pool, and chill out with several high quality beers and no fuss.
a friend had a birthday gathering there a couple weeks ago and there was a line halfway around the block to get in. some friends said they’d waited half an hour and still weren’t in yet. i bailed. it’s definitely not worth waiting in line for. but in my book nothing really is.
you play pool?
you hardly ever see a pool table in a bar here now, used to be not uncommon.
I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.
Agreed
Hopleaf is now much the same—great selection, terrible wait if you get there after, oh, 8ish.
chicago ale house is nice for fairly uncrowded big selection
I think it just opened a few years ago — on lawrence and (a bit east of) western. I haven’t gone yet this year, but never had trouble getting a table for at least 4. other than the good beer though there’s not much interesting going on, just a pool table, few screens, not bad pub food.
Marty!
We stole him from Ottawa, eh.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 17, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Why does Rose look like Mao?
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 17, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Because he's a great leap forward?
I’m sorry. I’m so so sorry. I couldn’t help it.
Alright
which one of you jokesters painted over the “preview” and “post” buttons in white?
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Either a big "?" or it went right over my head.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 17, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
WHITE SOX
Getz 2b
Fields 3b
Quentin lf
Thome dh
Dye rf
Konerko 1b
Pierzynski c
Ramirez ss
Anderson cf
Colon p
TAMPA BAY
Upton cf
Crawford lf
Longoria 3b
Pena 1b
Burrell dh
Navarro c
Gross rf
Iwamura 2b
Bartlett ss
Shields p
White Sox third baseman Josh Fields and Chris Getz took early infield work under dim lighting conditions.
Longoria's back
d*mn the bad luck.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 17, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, maybe grandma? Gotta make it fast though...first pitch is in two hours!
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 17, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Later, the two will play a game of Major League of Baseball under dim lighting conditions.
No more no more Longoria.
by The Actual El Guapo on Apr 17, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
i'll be so happy if getz and fields play well enough this season to justify keeping them 1-2 all year.
what a perfect niche for them to fill.
Cashing checks and having sex.
All we need is #8 and #9 hitters
and we’ll be dangerous.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And it would be nice if Thome can hit .250 and keep his OBP north of .370 or so.
He woorries me. Thank god that contract is up at year’s end.
Plus we need to jump on some of those newly minted
Cubans that have just left the mothership!
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 17, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
who thinks getz should lead off DH next year?
yes I know this is early
"I’ll take the old gray lady over the peanut gallery on some cow town blog."
MadVillian
So do I give Walker credit for Fields or what?
Colon against Shields, yikes
We barely won with our best pitcher against their worst yesterday
"I’ll take the old gray lady over the peanut gallery on some cow town blog."
MadVillian
no I have doubts for our ability to drive in runs against a better pitcher
"I’ll take the old gray lady over the peanut gallery on some cow town blog."
MadVillian
two thoughts about fields.
and why i’ve probably been a bit higher on him than others. first, we often joke on here about “player x was a football player.” well, josh was a quarterback in college. while some get caught up in the he must be tough or he must be an athlete pomp which surrounds such things, probably the more important thing to keep in mind is that, unlike other players his age at the time – whether in college or in the minors – he wasn’t focusing on baseball year round. so his depth of experience is shallower than other players his age. this is probably something that has less and less relevance as the years pass but it’s still there and i think especially shows up in his defense – he was taking snaps in the fall instead of grounders.
second, josh is a makeup guy. like, extreme high end if you’re going to chart it. you can see evidence of this in this past offseason when he basically moved to florida to work with cora on his defense. while makeup also isn’t going to overcome a lack of skill, a main tenet of scouting is that good makeup guys are more likely to exceed expectations, while bad makeup guys are more likely to fall short of them.

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