Swisher's Effusive, Disingenuous Praise Called Out by Guillen

by The Cheat on Apr 19, 2009 7:25 PM CDT Comment 112 comments

[T]his trade was all about getting rid of the strong personality of Swisher. It wasn't about baseball skill, or money, or the future. It was only about getting rid of a perceived problem for the sake of no longer having to deal with said problem.

There are whispers that Swisher rubbed much of the coaching staff and some of his teammates the wrong way with his outspoken behavior, and, most of all, his pouting when his season turned south. Now that he's no longer a member of the organization, I'm sure there will be plenty of leaks about him being an uncoachable, hard-partying, distraction in the clubhouse.

And even if all of those things are true, this is still a bad trade. The Sox simply didn't get any value in return.

It took a lot longer than I expected -- the White Sox have done some surprisingly good damage control -- but now that Swisher, who's never met a microphone or camera he didn't like, is off to a hot start in the largest media market in the country things are starting to heat up. Swisher apparently did a Q&A with the NY Post (See how hard that was to link. I'm looking at you Trib and Sun-Times.) in which he heaped effusive praise on his teammates and manager. The piece was shown to Ozzie Guillen Sunday, which, of course, elicited a response.

"I heard the same [stuff] on April 20 [last year] about me," Guillen said. "He’s got to say what he’s got to say. He was talking about people he’s only known for two weeks. That’s hard to make that statement when you only know people for two weeks, but that’s Nick.

"I’m not pretending to be the best manager. I never will. But I guarantee that I will manage a lot longer than he will play. That’s all I can say. And I’ve got more friends in baseball than I have enemies. Some people can’t handle the way I manage. It’s not easy. When you manage, you have to deal with 25 to 50 people every year. To make [all of those] people happy, you can’t.

"But it’s easy when you hit .350 or .390. Everybody is a good manager. It’s easy to blame people."

It's hard not to side with Guillen on this one. Swisher wasn't long for Chicago because he rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. But he's an extremely talented baseball player, and it was imperative that the White Sox get some extreme talent in return.

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Did Swisher say Ozzie is not a good manager?

I read the interview but did not notice anything like that

I noticed Swisher saying the yanks manager is the best he has played for

was there something I missed?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 19, 2009 7:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Larry would have picked up on this

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by The Cheat on Apr 19, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

so what? I'm not larry

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 19, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well

I think Ozzie is right about the fact that Swisher (and most players really) will just blow smoke up someone’s ass who they work for and the situation a player is in now is always percieved as “The best place” to that person. You trade Dustin Pedroia to the Nationals right now and he will tell you it’s where he has always wanted to be and he is happy with where he is in Washington.

But I just don’t like that Ozzie automatically assumes Swisher is dogging him and feels a need to throw shit at Swish. Players aren’t going to want to play for a manager who will just talk shit about you for no reason after you leave. Ozzie really shot himself in the foot with these comments.

my president is white.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Apr 19, 2009 8:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

You expected something different?

Do you really think players aren’t going to play as well because of the perceived possibility of veiled comments in the future from Ozzie?

Settle down with the designer stats. This isn’t fucking algebra, it’s baseball..

by defensive indifference on Apr 19, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't mean "won't play for" in the sense of half assing it for him

I mean free agents and players who can decline a trade to the Sox may see Ozzie as a detriment because of comments like these he makes about former players.

my president is white.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Apr 19, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We only go after Cubans.

They don’t understand Ozzie’s English. Wait, neither do I.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 19, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

as opposed to writing a book

calling arod, a fraud?

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Apr 19, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i really doubt it

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Apr 19, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I don't see how this hurts the Sox

I really, really doubt that a situation arises in which a player of importance declines to come to the Sox cause Guillen ripped Swisher.

Players are after money and a ring. I don’t think they’ll care about Ozzie.

by hitlesswonder on Apr 19, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I'm just an idiot. Nevermind.

my president is white.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Apr 19, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

you go where you get paid the most

or have the best chance at a ring. i don’t see this having any negative effects

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 19, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

except to the sox

"I’ll take the old gray lady over the peanut gallery on some cow town blog."
MadVillian

by blackoutsox on Apr 19, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

not like this would be the last straw with FAs about Ozzie

as a player you know who the manager is, but i figure it won’t matter that much to them. at least not enough to push them away from signing here. look at it this way, they could outlast him.

by U-God on Apr 19, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ozzie clearly has been a problem in attracting and retaining players.

thank god mr. marquez doesn't read this site.

by larry on Apr 19, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That is true

personally I didn’t like the swisher trade becuase I liked him and thought he could rebound.

What I really didn’t like though was the pathetic value we got in return. The only player we have with any potential from that trade is Nuenz, whom to me has looked like a not so advanced Link so far.

That is why I thought this trade was bad to the sox, but these comments certainly didn’t help.

"I’ll take the old gray lady over the peanut gallery on some cow town blog."
MadVillian

by blackoutsox on Apr 19, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and if you count nunez as the return for teixeira, things get even worse

I wouldn’t have any trouble with dealing swisher if we got something of value back

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 19, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ozzie doesn't comes out good methinks

“All of a sudden, he knows everyone on the ballclub,” said Guillen of Swisher and his new New York home. “I was reading the article and I just laughed. You only got one week, two weeks on the team and everyone is nice? Some people can’t handle the way I manage. It’s not easy.”

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090419&content_id=4345632&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

seems to me ozzie doesn’t like his ex-players to praise their new managers
swisher said ‘x is a nice guy’ and ozzie laughs at it like swisher is a moron for having said that

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 19, 2009 8:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

you don't find Swisher's comments odd after 2 weeks?

I mean come on.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Apr 19, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't like ozzie laughing at them

maybe they aren’t honest, maybe they are honest

no reason to laugh at him

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 19, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Swish is not a rookie or naiive.

Mano y mano, Wiz.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 19, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you mean because he isn't a rookie, he can't praise his manager?

I don’t understand what’s wrong with a player praising his new manager

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 19, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You don't like Ozzie's style.

That’s OK. I think people should just shut up and do their job well longer than 2 weeks. I also think the addition of Swisher being so wonderful for the clubhouse (as Joe Buck was describing yesterday – “his music was on in the clubhouse – I’ve never heard that”) is a bit premature. Just a bit. It was all seashells and baloons last year with us, too. In April/May.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 19, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the yankees broadcasters were saying that the first week of spring training.

thank god mr. marquez doesn't read this site.

by larry on Apr 19, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

on this instance no? no

I think people should just shut up and do their job well longer than 2 weeks.

agree, I just don’t like laughing and ridiculing someone who didn’t wait 2 weeks

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 19, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

strike 'no' numero uno

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 19, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry this is funny stuff for barely knowing someone

Q:A-Rod?

A: Greatest ever. Just an awesome guy. Very misunderstood.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Apr 19, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hasn't even played yet this year.

Fer Chrissakes.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 19, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But he saw his press conference live.....

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Apr 19, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yikes, with that and the Girardi quote, Swisher sounds like a high school girl with all the hyperbole

“A-Rod is so, like, the bestest ever. I just luv him. And Jeter? OMGzzzzz!!!!! JETES! Greatest teammate ever. Luv him too.”

It’s really more of the same from Ozzie. I’ll get annoyed when players currently on the Sox start (systematically) underperforming or when players start to avoid Chicago just because of Ozzie. In other words, as long as Ozzie continues his general ‘goodness’ as a manager, I really don’t mind the side stuff that goes along with it.

by CWSKeith on Apr 19, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

thome, buehrle, konerko, and dye are just the types to love that kind of stuff.

thank god mr. marquez doesn't read this site.

by larry on Apr 19, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

I like Ozzie, but this seemed unnecessary. So what if he likes Girardi and his new teammates? He’s happy. Good for him.
Ozzie should be happy the team is off to a promising start and not make a non-issue an issue.

Formerly Crede's Crew

by Q!'s Qrew on Apr 19, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes

we’ve more important stuff to focus on

Q! is on pace for 95 dingers!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 19, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm pissed I missed my chance to "buy low" on him

in a league filled w/ NYY and Boston fans. Oh well

Formerly Crede's Crew

by Q!'s Qrew on Apr 19, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Your name is Q's Qrew

Should have bought at any price

by Grinder in Training on Apr 19, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha fair...I'm not a homer w/ fantasy though

3 leagues…0 WSox Players

Formerly Crede's Crew

by Q!'s Qrew on Apr 19, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

my only is PK

and that was at the end of the draft

by U-God on Apr 19, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The guy leads the league in HR's

And would have won the MVP last year.. not sure it’s being a homer to take the guy high especially if it was at a reduced price.

by Grinder in Training on Apr 19, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

Ozzie is quite good at keeping his players loose and the attention off them and on him instead with his unorthodox interpetation of the english language. This lets his players relax, be natural, let their instincts take over and do their best, even when they’re bad.

The only exception is if they have an attitude problem.

Does swisher fit that attitude problem? In my opinion no, but that’s debatable. However, Ozzie should have just turned it into a non issue like you said instead of ripping someone he might see once a year. This is one he did not handle so well.

"I’ll take the old gray lady over the peanut gallery on some cow town blog."
MadVillian

by blackoutsox on Apr 19, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well said

You’re right about him diffusing negative attention away from the players…but this wasn’t that. This was just a total head scratcher…

Formerly Crede's Crew

by Q!'s Qrew on Apr 19, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did we not deal with Magglio Ordonez? This is nothing new.. considering how that went over, I can’t see this doing anything to his reputation with other players. I’ve never once read a free agent didn’t come here b/c of Ozzie Guillen.

by Grinder in Training on Apr 19, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed, I don't see it impacting chances w/ FAs

Formerly Crede's Crew

by Q!'s Qrew on Apr 19, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

colin (or anyone for that matter)

where can i find WAR values for players

by U-God on Apr 19, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

this is the best site for historical.

http://www.baseballprojection.com/war/playerindex.htm

not sure if you’re looking for one that computes this season but i don’t know any that are so far.

thank god mr. marquez doesn't read this site.

by larry on Apr 19, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

nah, this season isn't enough data yet

but thanks, this is exactly what i was looking for

by U-God on Apr 19, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's the anti-Rowand

“I temporarily lost that fire and passion I had for the game of baseball.”

I know its the Post, but that’s a lot of typos. A lot of exclamation points as well.

by Off the bus running on Apr 19, 2009 8:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Huh?

So how would you dress that quote up for prime time?

by EddyStanky'sGhost on Apr 19, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

another thing

‘‘I heard the same [stuff] on April 20 [last year] about me,’’ Guillen said. ‘‘He’s got to say what he’s got to say. He was talking about people he’s only known for two weeks. That’s hard to make that statement when you only know people for two weeks, but that’s Nick.

I don’t remember Ozzie responding ’it’s only 2 weeks, don’t praise me yet swisher’ at the time
maybe it’s different if its your own knob being polished

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 19, 2009 8:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

maybe?

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Apr 19, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sox after this series scoring 5.2 runs per game, giving up 3.9

average offense plus great pitching. that sounds…familiar.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 19, 2009 8:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

so you have heard of my softball team?

by BustedFlush on Apr 19, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Me likey, me likey a lot

Formerly Crede's Crew

by Q!'s Qrew on Apr 19, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like this trade

I actually think Betemit could match (or come close to) an average Swisher season say .255avg, 22hr 80rbi. Betemit won’t get the chance though.

by striker on Apr 19, 2009 8:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i like to dream too

by U-God on Apr 19, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

whats your argument?

I just think Swisher is overrated. The best season the guy had he batted like .274 and knocked in like 90 runs. Uribe could match that.

by striker on Apr 19, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you'll go far.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 19, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

by U-God on Apr 19, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can he pitch?

Actually, it looks like the Yankees are going to need him on the mound the way their RA is shaping up. The Sox? They got Al Weis with a better bat.

by EddyStanky'sGhost on Apr 19, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Apr 19, 2009 8:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

CHUMBAWUMBA! (Well, that's who they remind me of.)

Pissing the night away…

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 19, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Didn't Wiz get the memo...

about blindly following the leader?

Settle down with the designer stats. This isn’t fucking algebra, it’s baseball..

by defensive indifference on Apr 19, 2009 8:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

probably didn't get past the chinese sensors.

thank god mr. marquez doesn't read this site.

by larry on Apr 19, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ha!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 19, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Are ye for us or ag'in us, DI?

Or just indifferent?

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 19, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ha!

I think I’ve made that clear in the past. Probably at some point, maybe.

Settle down with the designer stats. This isn’t fucking algebra, it’s baseball..

by defensive indifference on Apr 19, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

christian marrero is wondering what the hell he did to get tagged with this post.

thank god mr. marquez doesn't read this site.

by larry on Apr 19, 2009 9:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

http://www.talk-sports.net/sal/sucks.aspx/Christian_Marrero

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Apr 19, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I logged a ticket with tech support

click the link, somehow Christian Marrero = Jeff Marquez

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by The Cheat on Apr 19, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i've noticed that previously.

thank god mr. marquez doesn't read this site.

by larry on Apr 20, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can't believe I have a "Related FanPost" linked at the top!

I don’t even remember writing that. The meth haze was thick back then.

Settle down with the designer stats. This isn’t fucking algebra, it’s baseball..

by defensive indifference on Apr 19, 2009 9:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

it's a hell of a drug

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 19, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

my orgo teacher showed us pics from faces of meth

or something like that for a good 10 minutes in lab lecture sophomore year. i still don’t know why

by U-God on Apr 19, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

in high school, we saw a 15 min film about the dangers of hopping trains

trying to scare us straight with depictions of guys falling under the wheels or getting jacked by drifters and bulls.

Never understood that one. Didn’t seem like a big risk to America’s youth at the time. Probably leftover film from the Depression.

I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator

by Nordhagen on Apr 20, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Feds are always 30 years behind the times.

We got the smoking videos showing toes/fingers rotting off. Since, you know, you saw that so often as a result of smoking.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 20, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

For the love of God, on a trans-oceanic voyage, pack plenty of citrus!

by The Actual El Guapo on Apr 20, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

we saw something like that in driver's ed

which made just as much sense to me

by U-God on Apr 20, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Could be so you didn't get any bright ideas about starting your own meth lab

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 20, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

only if i'm diagnosed as terminal

by U-God on Apr 20, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's what i'm talking about. do it, mr. white.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Apr 21, 2009 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's the faces of Lemonheads.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Apr 20, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jeez!

Clearly her hair dye budget was being diverted to buy meth!

Settle down with the designer stats. This isn’t fucking algebra, it’s baseball..

by defensive indifference on Apr 19, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

The key to weight loss tbh.

my president is white.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Apr 19, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow - so much man-crush for a player no longer here...

…and only here a year with not much to show for it.
He’s gone – who cares. Did Ozzie handle the question well – does he ever?
Did KW get enough in return – he got what the market would give at the time. (In this market is he worth $5.3 million in 2009, $6.75 million in 2010 and $9 million in 2011?) Would waiting have brought more? (Guess we’ll never know)

Ozzie is correct – he will be around much longer than Swish – hispanic managers with WS rings are hard to come by. Seems to me free agents are influenced for the most part by money – if Oz was an issue, why did Mark stick around? He could have certainly found much more money elsewhere.

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Apr 19, 2009 10:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The inevitable downward spiral will begin as soon as he does the worm for them.

Meanwhile, I must have missed it — when exactly did we get good again?

by The Actual El Guapo on Apr 19, 2009 10:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

not the worm - how I hated that ad!!! (And the rest of those ads)

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Apr 19, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I believe the term you're looking for is, "that ad,

I can’t stand it."

by The Actual El Guapo on Apr 19, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hoodie?

“was this you?”:

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Apr 19, 2009 11:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

hmm...

i cant figure out how to post a link.

try again

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Apr 19, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He set his bird on fire, lol.

It's like he's a cyborg sent from the future to draw 22 walks a season or something.

by omnipotent grab on Apr 19, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

here is what i think...

Swisher had his best 2 weeks he will have this season. The reporter showed ozzie swisher’s comments and issued his response (as always). I think Ozzie is right. Wait til Swisher hits a rough patch and they get on him about joking around when he is playing like shit. Ozzie isn’t the type of guy to keep his comments to himself obviously. Don’t see what the big deal in this is.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Apr 20, 2009 12:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

My favorite part

I guarantee that I will manage a lot longer than he will play.

Now that’s what I like to hear. Maybe someone will mention this the next time Ozzie says mentions he was ready to retire 3 weeks ago. I think they would both hold the same weight.

Though the idea of Ozzie managing the Sox for years on end out of spite brings a smile to my face for so many reasons.

by TCBullfrog on Apr 20, 2009 1:02 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs

i hate you

Where time is meaningless, and outside of diamonds there are no dimensions.

by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on Apr 20, 2009 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ha

That was fortuitous. Sorry man.

by TCBullfrog on Apr 20, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha loved that

managing out of spite

"I’ll take the old gray lady over the peanut gallery on some cow town blog."
MadVillian

by blackoutsox on Apr 20, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the money quote

“But I guarantee that I will manage a lot longer than he will play. That’s all I can say.”

Where time is meaningless, and outside of diamonds there are no dimensions.

by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on Apr 20, 2009 1:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

All I know, Ozzie, is that

resentments are like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die.

"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08

by ballyb on Apr 20, 2009 6:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

why should ozzie care what nick swisher thinks about him?

Nick Swisher was nothing more than a phony who couldn’t hit the ball and pouted when he lost his job to Wise. Lets get it straight- Wise WAS better than Swisher at the end of last year…and that had nothing to do with Ozzie.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Apr 20, 2009 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It doesn’t seem like his disliking of other players has hurt him before, I don’t know why this would be any different.

by Grinder in Training on Apr 20, 2009 7:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Shouldn't we just be indifferent to this stuff by now?

As long as the team wins games, the clubhouse won’t have a giant mutiny against Ozzie. If they undergo another season like 2007, then maybe the seeds of dissent will come out.

Swisher is not an uncommon personality in any sport. This sort of “wild card” persona only goes so far with veteran clubhouses. As long as he produces, no one will care. When Swisher starts hitting .220 and looking like Fukudome when striking out, you don’t think old-school guys like Posada will grow weary of him?

That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 20, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I posted my thoughts on this over at BBTF

If you want read them there. #37 in their thread. I don’t think this is a big deal at all. That’s the gist of it.

by madvillian on Apr 20, 2009 10:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

this is such a non-issue, i refuse to post about it

oops.

by Hatchetm on Apr 20, 2009 11:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Such a lack of posts this morning... didn't realize so many SSSers were taking 4/20 to heart

“big yellow joint, big yellow joint…”

by CWSKeith on Apr 20, 2009 11:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm at work. You can bet I'll have one ready for the Bulls game

Got in early this morning so I could jet out of the office by 6 and get home in time to make some “preparations” for the game.

4/20 was much more fun in college.

by madvillian on Apr 20, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seriously...

What am I supposed to do at work if no one is posting on here? Just because the Sox have the day off doesn’t mean the rest of us do.

by Grinder in Training on Apr 20, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

new thread coming soon

by U-God on Apr 20, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Explain "BYJ" to the uninitiated, plz.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 20, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Arrested Development

Twitter: @SouthSideCheat
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by The Cheat on Apr 20, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

TY.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 20, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The show everyone tells you to watch

Your 72 year old father probably knows who Mr. Banana-Grabber is.

That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 20, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My response to that is the same as to your other post.

I’m sorry your cricket-loving father does not love you enought to embrace baseball.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 20, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why is there such a big response

to what is basically a standard answer that players always give to reporters. Its a stock answer. Its like calling out a player for giving the “I gave 110% out there!” quote because “you can’t give %110, dumbass!”

Don't believe in yourself.
Believe in Me who believes in You.

by Zonis on Apr 20, 2009 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs