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Statistical Prospect Evaluation Primer: Part 1, Context

Can Chris Getz become the White Sox first homegrown offensive prospect to make an immediate impact since Maggs and El Caballo?

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Can Chris Getz become the White Sox first homegrown offensive prospect to make an immediate impact since Maggs and El Caballo?

Over the course of the spring, I have often commented that Chris Getz has built a minor league track record which forebodes future major league success, but I've never gone into specific detail to explain. I thought I'd put together a bit of a primer on the things I look for when evaluating minor league prospects.

First things first, there is no substitution for scouting. You can tell quite a bit about a player by studying their stats, but you'll never get the full picture without observing them in the field. Scouts rate offensive players 5 tools (current and future) on a 20-80 scale. Those 5 tools are listed below, and discussed more in-depth in this scouting primer.

  1. Hit for average
  2. Hit for power
  3. Speed
  4. Arm
  5. Defense

The information collected by those gray haired, radar gun wielding guys will never be without use. No matter how far computers and statistical evaluation advance, there will always be a need for scouts.

But you, the better-than-average fan, whose scouting acumen consists solely of reading Baseball America, Baseball Prospectus or this site, can gain a rather deep understanding of a prospects development simply by knowing what to look for when gazing at a prospects stats. Here's how.

Age vs. League

While Age vs. League is not the most important factor in statistical-based prospect evaluation, it is, however, the first thing I look at when I first take a look at a prospect's numbers. A player's age vs. his competition level gives context to their stats.

As a very general guideline I like to use the following progression for a player:

  • AAA -- 23
  • AA -- 22
  • A+ -- 21
  • A -- 20

If you'll notice those ages are considerably younger than the average ages of each respective league. That's because most players in professional baseball will never reach the major leagues. And when we're talking about prospects, we're looking to identify future major leaguers.

A player with a solid minor league record posted at the above ages and levels would most likely be considered a prospect, maybe not an elite prospect, but the type of player you can reasonably expect to become a major league regular in the future.

Players who are a year or two younger than the listed age at each level, while still producing adequately, are usually projected to be future stars. There's a reason most Hall of Famers hit the major leagues before age 21.

On the other side of the coin, a player who is a couple of years older than the ages listed above shouldn't be completely ignored, but you need to take their age into account. If I see a 23 year old dominating in Winston-Salem (A+), for instance, I'd like to see him promoted more quickly than a younger player with similar production; make him prove his production at a higher level

League and Park Factors

Read enough prospect reports and you're bound to come across phrases like the Florida State League is a pitcher's league or the PCL is a hitter's paradise. What those statements refer to are the different hitting environments of those specific leagues. For instance, according to Baseball-Reference, where you can view all league averages since '92, the International League, which contains the White Sox AAA affiliate Charlotte Knights, had an average line of .263/.331/.404 compared to the .277/.348/.444 composite line from the much more hitter friendly PCL.

In addition to league factors, you should also remain acutely aware of the home park factors that can influence a player's performance.

                         R       H      2B      HR      BB       K
Charlotte (AAA)       1.05    1.00    0.98    1.37    0.96    1.00
Birmingham (AA)       0.92    0.97    0.87    0.82    0.97    1.03
Winston-Salem (A+)    1.05    1.03    1.06    1.06    1.03    0.98
Kannapolis (A)        0.98    1.00    0.99    0.93    0.96    1.00

The White Sox have two very extreme parks (at opposite ends of the spectrum) in the high minors. Charlotte has tiny power alleys and greatly inflates homeruns, while Birmingham has expansive power alleys and plays as one of the stingiest home parks in the entire minor leagues.

Once you give the stats their proper context, you can take dive headlong into the peripherals which make up the bulk of statistical-based prospect evaluation, which I'll tackle in part two...

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Realizing that this was gonna hit well over 2000 words

I broke it up into more than one part…. Look for part two tomorrow

by The Cheat on Apr 2, 2009 12:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ummm

I am never playing fantasy baseball with this guy.

by ChawSpit on Apr 2, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The last time I played was '05 or '06

was in 5 leagues, won 4, second in the 5th. A few of them were over by the All Star break.

by The Cheat on Apr 2, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im in 5 right now

One is 16 teams 7×7 where you keep 8 and 4 more minor leaguers, its crazy fun.
One is a money league where I broke even on payouts despite finishing dead last last year.
One is the SSS 18 teamer. You are all going down.
One is a money league Ive won every year but one since I joined in ’04.
One is my first auction draft which looks to be a good time.

I think they all might go in the toilet though this year when the kid shows up in a month.

by e-gus on Apr 2, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have way too much time, Gus.

And your assumption is correct. You are in for it, buster. No sleep. NO SLEEP!

If they had this s--- when I was playing, I would have been the best f------ shortstop who ever lived.

by winningugly on Apr 2, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TILL BROOKLYN! (brooklyn!)

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 2, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

AND I QUOTE
No story from me tonight

I’m at 1800 words and still not near finished (nor happy) with my latest piece… Hopefully I’ll get it posted for you guys tomorrow night… Should be worth the wait.

psh.

I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.

by colintj on Apr 2, 2009 1:46 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

a good lesson for you.

underpromise and then overdeliver.

by larry on Apr 2, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha! - very good

my approach to project management in a nutshell

I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.

by hoodlight on Apr 2, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys should get some rest.

Maybe you could play with the rest of us before noon.

If hate were people, I'd be China.

by winningugly on Apr 2, 2009 5:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

(Said with a smile. Great job, Cheat.

I am surprised that you are touting the efficacy of the old men. I agree with you. And that would be my dream job.)

If hate were people, I'd be China.

by winningugly on Apr 2, 2009 7:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very nicely written

Jim-like in it’s quality. Can’t wait for part II.
Thx!

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 2, 2009 5:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice piece although this struck me as a little Phil Rogersish...

As a very general guideline I like to use the following progression for a player:

AAA — 23
AA — 22
A+ — 21
A — 20

Don’t cha think?

He also doesn’t care much for me, so I expect me posting on these things to piss him off.
by U-God on Feb 27, 2009 10:00 AM CST

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 8:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

*meant to blue box that

He also doesn’t care much for me, so I expect me posting on these things to piss him off.
by U-God on Feb 27, 2009 10:00 AM CST

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

very nice content

This is going to make a great reference

I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator

by Nordhagen on Apr 2, 2009 8:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

Good stuff Cheat.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Apr 2, 2009 8:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

larry must be chasing an ambulance as we speak.

remember to tell your clients to keep a neck brace in their glove compartments…

He also doesn’t care much for me, so I expect me posting on these things to piss him off.
by U-God on Feb 27, 2009 10:00 AM CST

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 9:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not sure where JO and DWise fit in the age category...

…oh yeah, they are major outliers.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Apr 2, 2009 10:12 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nice job cheat...solid read as always

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Apr 2, 2009 10:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This is a song about a superhero named The Cheat
It’s called The Cheat’s Theme

He’s got the oil on his chain, for a ride in the rain
No baloney
Ride around on my bicycle like a pony
I’m waving hi, hi, hi, hi, hi
Gu-gu-gu-Gimme a scream
Give me, give me the theme
Of The Cheat

The Cheat, The Cheat, The Cheat, The Cheat

I am The Cheat, super bicycle The Cheat, I’m racing
Spitfire turn and pop a wheelie, burn and evil chasing
I’m waving bye, bye, bye, bye, bye
I got a card in my spokes
I’m practicing my joke, I’m learning

The Cheat, The Cheat, The Cheat, The Cheat

This is a song about a superhero named The Cheat
It’s called The Cheat’s Theme

I can look at the sun if you give me some bad sun glasses
I’m back on the road, I cut my grass like I’m told
AFTER CLASSES!

The Cheat! The Cheat! The Cheat!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 2, 2009 10:43 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

The Pixies, eh?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Apr 2, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

mmhmmmmmmmm.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 2, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't remember claiming I was. :)

Besides, what is a few minutes of company time spent, when I am busy paying tribute to The Cheat?

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 2, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the topic wasn't the Cheat you'd have been cloaked.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 2, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

is cloaked the same as clocked?

Or would you be sending her a stylish outerwear ensamble to protect her clothes from the elements of Washington weather?

Clocked would get you in the same category as Chris Brown.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Apr 2, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

:D

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 2, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's ok, I said it to my parents too.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 2, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but I was kidding.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 2, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"So eff off"

Not that it would be appropriate in this situation, but your comment inspired me to come up with “eff the fuck off”.

Redundant, yes, but I like the sound of it.

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 2, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bologna

He also doesn’t care much for me, so I expect me posting on these things to piss him off.
by U-God on Feb 27, 2009 10:00 AM CST

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

baloney

He also doesn’t care much for me, so I expect me posting on these things to piss him off.
by U-God on Feb 27, 2009 10:00 AM CST

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

twinkies already setting up the storylines for their fairytale 2009 championship season.
By Mark Gonzales

PHOENIX – It looks like Brian Anderson might get some starts in the leadoff spot by the first weekend of the regular season for the White Sox.

According to La Velle Neal of the Minneapolis Star Tribune, Minnesota has placed pitcher Scott Baker on the 15-day disabled list. That means that left-hander Glen Perkins is on target to pitch the fourth game of the regular season against the Sox.

Left-hander Francisco Liriano takes over as the opening day starter for the Twins and could start the Sox’s series finale on April 12.

The Sox aren’t scheduled to face a left-handed starter when they open the regular season against Kansas City.

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/04/injury-could-leave-white-sox-facing-two-lefthanders-vs-minnesota.html

"If they had this s--- when i was playing, I would have been the best f------ shortstop who ever lived." - Oswaldo Guilllen

by larry on Apr 2, 2009 11:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

haha. Was it a bear-mauling?

Also, don’t forget SIDS.
Poor guy.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 2, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

answer my e-mail

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Apr 2, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now THAT'S the way to get her attention!

Nicely played.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 2, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

totally worked

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Apr 2, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sweet i'll be there to watch this guy get shelled first hand!

He also doesn’t care much for me, so I expect me posting on these things to piss him off.
by U-God on Feb 27, 2009 10:00 AM CST

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great link, hadn't seen this. Thanks!

Gradually baseball people outside the sabermetrics community began to take notice. During spring training in ‘04, Dewan was giving a presentation to the White Sox’ front office in the team cafeteria when manager Ozzie Guillen and his players wandered in to have lunch, their game that day having been rained out. Dewan noticed that Guillen would occasionally glance over at the presentation. Eventually he walked up to Dewan and started flipping through his statistical samples. “If they had this s—- when I was playing,” the manager announced to the room, “I would have been the best f——— shortstop who ever lived.”

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 2, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

'The Fielding Bible' has a long way to go

The best defensive player at every position is decided by a vote!
Thats crap.
And whats worse, Mike Murphy has a say in it, and hes an idiot.

by e-gus on Apr 2, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why is Murph an idiot?

i find his show the least annoying on the score. The real idiots are Bores and Bernstein. Those guys used to be good, then their egos got way too big. They are like Mike North in a lot of ways, blast someone on their show and ask why no one is asking the tough questions. Then when they get them on the show they kiss ass.

He also doesn’t care much for me, so I expect me posting on these things to piss him off.
by U-God on Feb 27, 2009 10:00 AM CST

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love that quote

and immediately changed my sig. Because it could’ve been me.

If they had this s--- when I was playing, I would have been the best f------ shortstop who ever lived.

by winningugly on Apr 2, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love how the article portrays your lover boy...

as the arrogant prick he is.

Fuck you Hunter!

/and thus ends my quest to hate on Torii Hunter

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 2, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

get your own signature.

"If they had this s--- when i was playing, I would have been the best f------ shortstop who ever lived." - Oswaldo Guilllen

by larry on Apr 2, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was there first.

How many "l"’s in Guillen, lawyer boy?

If they had this s--- when I was playing, I would have been the best f------ shortstop who ever lived.

by winningugly on Apr 2, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no. you weren't.

"If they had this s--- when i was playing, I would have been the best f------ shortstop who ever lived." - Oswaldo Guilllen

by larry on Apr 2, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit, you beat me by an hour.

I don’t care – you were never a shortstop. I was. I own this.

If they had this s--- when I was playing, I would have been the best f------ shortstop who ever lived.

by winningugly on Apr 2, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, fair's fair. When you're right, you're right.

All yours.

I picture you sitting bolt-upright in bed, screaming like Jack Woltz in "The Godfather" as he sees Khartoum’s severed head.

by winningugly on Apr 2, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In fact, you should probably "Fanshot" it on the right rail.

Include a snip or 2, and the link (of course).

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 2, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look who's telling someone aboutt referencing the source...

the Pot.

If they had this s--- when I was playing, I would have been the best f------ shortstop who ever lived.

by winningugly on Apr 2, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

And thank you too, Cheat.

"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08

by ballyb on Apr 2, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could cloak you! But then you'd uncloak it, and cloak me. But then if I was cloaked

so would be your response. Hmm… there’s a point in there somewhere. If you figure it out let me know.
;-)

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 2, 2009 1:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Christ almighty. Meant in reply to WU.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 2, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

effin Bally disease and the season hasn't even started.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 2, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big golf claps for your honorary members of the SSS community.

By their powers combined, about as useful as an asshole right here (points to elbow).

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 2, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are unruly.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 2, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cheat I would like to become a managing editor.

Email me what I need to do.

He also doesn’t care much for me, so I expect me posting on these things to piss him off.
by U-God on Feb 27, 2009 10:00 AM CST

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 3:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Whose?

I picture you sitting bolt-upright in bed, screaming like Jack Woltz in "The Godfather" as he sees Khartoum’s severed head.

by winningugly on Apr 2, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'd just like to say right here, so as to avoid any ambiguity on this point, that it wasn't and isn't mine.

"If they had this s--- when i was playing, I would have been the best f------ shortstop who ever lived." - Oswaldo Guillen

by larry on Apr 2, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We already know who you had to blow to get this job.

I picture you sitting bolt-upright in bed, screaming like Jack Woltz in "The Godfather" as he sees Khartoum’s severed head.

by winningugly on Apr 2, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck

I just lost the part on pitchers…

I decided to expand the peripherals portion into two parts, hitters and pitchers, and I just lost the pitchers portion thanks to some erroneous copy-and-pasting…

On the plus side, the hitters portion is approaching 1000 words…

by The Cheat on Apr 2, 2009 4:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

check your clipboard

"If they had this s--- when i was playing, I would have been the best f------ shortstop who ever lived." - Oswaldo Guillen

by larry on Apr 2, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's gone

I did it an hour ago and didn’t realize it until now, after too many more copy-and-pastes….

It’s not a big deal. It was the least developed portion… and I’ve got time to finish it since I keep expanding the post.

by The Cheat on Apr 2, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa!!!!!!

I just slipped on Chiburb’s spit.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 2, 2009 4:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He started it.

(in the other thread)

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 2, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

your mother had an accident

I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.

by colintj on Apr 2, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My sister or me?

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 2, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

’twere an AD reference

and i sent you an email which you’ll probably get before you see this

I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.

by colintj on Apr 3, 2009 2:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice. Thanks, dad!!!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 2, 2009 6:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Did the Chinese took over?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 2, 2009 9:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

apparently.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 2, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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