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Way Down In The Hole: A Baltimore Orioles Preview

Life imitates art as young Nick continues to prove invaluable to the Greek.

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Life imitates art as young Nick continues to prove invaluable to the Greek.

A brief look at an out of division opponent we're playing this week.

Dates we play them: 4/21-4/23 @ Baltimore, 7/17-7/19 at home, 8/21-8/23 at home

Offense: A potential lineup: Brian Roberts-2B, Adam Jones-CF, Nick Markakis-RF, Aubrey Huff-1B, Ty Wigginton-3B, Luke Scott-DH, Felix Pie-LF, Gregg Zaun-C, Cesar Izturis-SS  Bench players: Melvin Mora-3B, Ryan Freel-UTIL

Brian Roberts is probably never going to reproduce the power numbers he put up in 2005, but since then he has improved his game in two other key areas for a player of his skill set: BB% and SB success rate.  Roberts has posted an OBP of .377 over the past two seasons and has stolen 90 bases while only being caught 17 times.  He was just given a four-year extension, which seems odd seing as he will turn 32 during the playoffs this year and Baltimore is probably two years away from being a relevant team in the AL East.  Adam Jones is one of the key pieces obtained from Seattle in the Erik Bedard deal.  The 23 year old was worth 2.2 wins above replacement  last year, based on the strength of his stellar glovework.  While one season isn't enough to make assumptions about defensive play, Jones seems to be a plus defender.  If his hot start this season is any indication of improvements being made at the plate, Jones could be part of an amazing young outfield that will play at Camden Yards for years to come.  Nick Markakis is the new face of the franchise.  At 25, Markakis does just about everything well and should continue to improve over the next few seasons, especially now that the lineup around him actually shows promise of improving.  Aubrey Huff probably would have been sent packing last season if he hadn't had the second-best season of his career after this wonderful radio interview.  He is also pretty much a DH playing first base.  This will most likely be his last season in the Charm City.

Ty Wigginton was brought in as insurance for the aging Melvin Mora.  Ty is unlikely to match last year's numbers, but at $6 mil for 2 years it doesn't really matter if he does.  He was worth the contract.  Making Luke Scott the regular DH should help to improve the O's outfield defense, as his replacement in left Felix Pie is more athletic.  Somehow Pie is better in center than left.  Maybe KW is right about center being the easiest.  If Pie and Scott could merge into one player, they would be a decent leftfielder.  As we know from experience, it doesn't work.  Zaun was brought in to hold down catcher until the top-prospect in all of baseball Matt Wieters is ultimately called up.  Zaun will then become a solid back-up, with an amazing websiteCesar Izturis is essentially a Hispanic-Adam Everett.  He has no bat, posts a sub-league average OBP, and is good enough with his glove to come out positive in WAR.

Star-divide

Pitching: The current rotation and closer: Jeremy Guthrie-RHP, Koji Uehara-RHP, Mark Hendrickson-LHP, Adam Eaton-RHP  Bullpen: George Sherrill-LHP

Baltimore's biggest problem continues to plague them.  They have ranked 13th in the AL in runs allowed per game the past three seasons.  They may break that trend this year, but probably not by much.  Beyond Jeremy Guthrie, there isn't much to look at in this rotation.  Guthrie has been a solid pitcher the last two seasons, posting an ERA+ of 125.  His marked improvement from his days in Cleveland is most likely a result of keeping his BB/9 under three for the first time in his major league career.  I'm not going to lie, I couldn't find much on Koji Uehara, but here are his numbers from Japan.  It looks like he was a control freak over there.  We'll have to wait and see if that translates to pitching in the AL East, but he seems to love Baltimore and is the Orioles first Japanese born player.  Mark Hendrickson is a gigantic left-handed journeyman now playing for his fifth team.  He's fairly unimpressive and the most interesting thing about him is that he played in the NBA and was the 31st overall pick in the 1996 NBA draftAdam Eaton is terrible.  He used to be a decent fifth starter/innings eater, but has devolved into crap the past two years.  He also seems to be delusional, claiming he helped the Phillies win it all last year and make the playoffs in 2007.  You'll notice there is no fifth starter.  Baltimore's depth chart doesn't have one listedBrad Bergesen will be making his major league debut in a spot start against us tomorrow night.  Baseball America calls him the pitcher with the best control in the O's farm system.

George Sherill is not long for the role of closer.  He walks too many guys and posted a lowly 1.76 K/BB rate last year.  The only thing keeping him in the closer role is the fact that his heir apparent, Chris Ray, has been pitching pretty poorly himself so far this season.  There is hope for the rotation, as the 22nd, 25th, and 67th best prospects pitch for the O's minor league affiliates.  Chris Tillman, Brian Matusz, and Jake Arrieta all project to be better than every current member of Baltimore's rotation.

Outlook: While Baltimore's future is starting to look bright after dwelling in the cellar of the AL East for the past decade, they are at soonest about two seasons away from being a true threat to the rest of baseball.  We play nine games against the Orioles this year, six of which are at home.  I see no reason why the Sox shouldn't take the season series from the O's in 2009.

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+1 for the Wire reference.

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Apr 20, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

beat me to it by a minute

2nd off, I have not lived in bolingbrook for years.

by Illini0509 on Apr 20, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was so hard to not go overboard with them

i happily limited myself to 2

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 20, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

do the bars get the games on WCIU down here?

cuz if they do, i’m thinkin the 5/11 game against Cleveland works for me

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 20, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If so, that date also works for me

i’m likely heading to firehaus to catch the hawks game since its on csn+… i’ll ask tonight if i remember.

2nd off, I have not lived in bolingbrook for years.

by Illini0509 on Apr 20, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Apr 21, 2009 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

weak

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 21, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You left out the unattributed interview

with the handicapped guy in the wheelchair who’s never missed an Opening Day in his life, but couldn’t get into the game because The Man fucked him up.

Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 20, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

stephen hawkings?

"I’ll take the old gray lady over the peanut gallery on some cow town blog."
MadVillian

by blackoutsox on Apr 20, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

too soon.

thank god mr. marquez doesn't read this site.

by larry on Apr 20, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hawking.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 21, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

huh???

"I’ll take the old gray lady over the peanut gallery on some cow town blog."
MadVillian

by blackoutsox on Apr 20, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Episode 52: "Unconfirmed Reports"

I misremembered some of this:

Templeton sifts through the Orioles home-opener crowds, searching for the hook to his color story, but the fans aren’t giving the quotes he needs. People on the street brush him off; a spectator complains that steroids have ruined baseball. It appears the super fan he wants to feature doesn’t exist.

haha, I forgot about the steroid ranter pining for some old-timey baseball

When Templeton returns to the Sun offices after the game, he promises Haynes he got “good stuff.” A 13-year-old kid put in a wheelchair by a stray bullet couldn’t afford a scalped ticket at the gate; unfortunately, no photographers were available to get art.

Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 21, 2009 5:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I remembered that

but who can’t afford a scalped ticket to an O’s game… they are practically giving them away. I kid, I kid (sorta)

Formerly Crede's Crew

by Q!'s Qrew on Apr 21, 2009 6:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

All this Baltimore stuff

makes me want to run over there and grab a lake trout sandwich and some Utz Crab Chips

Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 21, 2009 6:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I loved

that in every stakeout scene where they’re sitting in the car bored out of their minds they were always munching down on the Utz Crab Chips.

Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 21, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha, i missed out on that detail

but had to point out to my brother over the weekend as we were watching the beginning of season 2 that bodie was listening to garrison keeler..some good shit right there

by onlysoxfaninboston on Apr 21, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

of course

Yes, you are correct. In the fog of my memory I was mixing up the fake young black kid in the wheelchair with the real pissed off old guy ranting about ’roids.

Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 21, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe

this game makes an appearance in Season Three. A Carlos Lee AB gets some screen time and Damaso Marte gets his name said aloud.

Same scene also includes Bunk telling a preoccupied McNulty “I’ve decided to become a woman.”

by Sox-35th on Apr 20, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes it does

i sat and figured that out after i saw that episode for the first time

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 20, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I havent seen the Wire, but despite that, I still liked reading this

some of those links are real gems. :)

I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator

by Nordhagen on Apr 20, 2009 4:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Almost as good as some gamethreads here.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 20, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forrest?

I dig the Rush tune. He sure thinks a lot of himself. I would never associate “Zaun” and “Limelight”.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 20, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice job, U-G. +1

You, Colin, and larry have been doing stellar work this year.
Much appreciated.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 20, 2009 5:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ain't it?

This is the most excellent post, I’ve been wasting the entire morning chasing down his links. It’s like one of those Russian nesting dolls. Nicely done U-God!

Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 21, 2009 6:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

U-G!!! You didn't mention that our Liz pitches for Baltimore!

Look at that fat ERA after 1/3 of an inning today against Boston.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 20, 2009 5:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

in the SSS primer

I thought Liz was referring to radhames. I was wrong.

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Apr 20, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

too bad we're going to miss liz.

liz has been optioned to norfolk.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Apr 21, 2009 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sniff.

as for the AAA guy pitching against the Sox tonight…
don’t we usually suck against call-ups?

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 21, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

especially of his variety

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 21, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will be a little sad when Jim Thome leaves the White Sox

because it will most likely mean less White Sox-themed dugouts.

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Apr 20, 2009 5:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that will be sad.

i do not want to think about it.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 20, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was pathetic, especially the comments.

Or am I missing something? The wine IS on…

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 20, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was it one of their best? No.

But I think “pathetic” is a little strong. And their characterization of JI JIM THOME always puts a smile on my face.

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Apr 20, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll try again on your rec, perhaps pre-wine.

You know what I mean.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 20, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So I can't actually see any comments on there (it just asks me if I want to post one)

Maybe it doesn’t like Chrome

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Apr 20, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

All I saw was a story about Ray Shook, 1912?

Followed by comments.
Are we on the same link?

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 20, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't really know where to begin

Have you read the dugout before?

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Apr 20, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take some of that wine, though :)

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Apr 20, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope.

And you wouldn’t like the wine. Rotgut on the order of Sneaky Pete.
2 glasses followed by a beer.
I’m pathetic.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 20, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Genius, especially this:

JUST AS JACKIE ROBINSON PAVED THE WAY FOR YOU AND PERHAPS 35% OF DEREK JETER, RAY SHOOK PAVED THE WAY FOR BASEBALL PLAYERS WHO DO NOT ACTUALLY PLAY BASED BALL

I almost fell out of my chair.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 20, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

same here

the wife came in to see what i was laughing at, saw baseball players and left the room.

I also loved the only picture of Ray Shook on the internet.

here comes hsa bumbling and tumbling home!!!
oh she’s out
by furby2056

by e-gus on Apr 21, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shit this post has a lot of recs

eh why not

"I’ll take the old gray lady over the peanut gallery on some cow town blog."
MadVillian

by blackoutsox on Apr 20, 2009 5:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's all in the links.

The last one is a doozy as well.

by The Actual El Guapo on Apr 20, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thx for making me click thru...

Funny AND Fugly indeed.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 20, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

loved the one about cf

"I’ll take the old gray lady over the peanut gallery on some cow town blog."
MadVillian

by blackoutsox on Apr 20, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

honestly recing has gotten out of control ever since we decorated that one thread green

now we have this old stuff hanging around in front page rec’d section … you internet hooligans, you :)

by LT_sox_fan on Apr 20, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big Bill Hell is the man.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 20, 2009 5:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Shove it up your ugly ass

Big Bill is freakin awesome!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 20, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'll fuck your wife!

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 20, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll rip your nuts off!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 20, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big Big props u-god

I never get tired of Big Bill!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 20, 2009 5:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone in Town?

I’m an ex-pat in B-more looking forward to this series as it’s the only time I make it to camden yards during the year. Wondering if anyone is making the trip or any other fans living here? Always looking for some fellow supporters as the fuckin city isn’t big enough to have supporter bars.

by ozzieball12 on Apr 20, 2009 6:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How can you win a game when you strike out to end the game?

http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/1405

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 20, 2009 7:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wire fans - David Simon developing a new TV drama

Set in New Orleans:

linky link

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Apr 20, 2009 7:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

old meme

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 20, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Ed Burns?

That is too bad

"...and when it comes to baseball, we have two favorite clubs: the Go-Go White Sox...and whoever plays the Cubs!!!"

by 815Sox on Apr 20, 2009 8:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

whoops

meant to reply to vince’s post

"...and when it comes to baseball, we have two favorite clubs: the Go-Go White Sox...and whoever plays the Cubs!!!"

by 815Sox on Apr 20, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

successfully deflected OG

"I’ll take the old gray lady over the peanut gallery on some cow town blog."
MadVillian

by blackoutsox on Apr 20, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

addendum

Felix Pie will probably not be in LF. They called up Lou Montañez this morning.

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 21, 2009 10:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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