Neyer reaches for new heights in douchiness
He picks up a pretty silly blog post and runs with it. And runs. Runs a Kansas City marathon on it. Reasonable if unoriginal points made. Brief lesson on the difference between literal and figurative. (That's a useful lesson, Rob. Would you like to teach the world why the word hopefully is almost always improperly used?)
And the whole thing is just awash in this effluvia of personal asshatness.
"Will Quentin win the award this year? That depends on him, but also on his teammates. Because MVP voters don't like losers."
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I would have never read that moron...
… if you hadn’t linked to him here. I washed my hands of ESPN years ago.
by Steven Andrew Miller on Apr 21, 2009 9:26 AM CDT reply actions
I read it, but I'm missing the asshattedness...
What did he say (write) that offended you? Seemed reasonable to me.
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
seemed reasonable to me too
He picked apart a fan blog for being overly partial to Q and his season last year. Looked fair – even the grammar lesson.
The original writer even added an update since Neyer’s write-up, and he sounds like he relished the plug/link from ESPN. Everybody wins!
I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator
seemed reasonable enough to me, too.
and if only i’d known poor grammar would get us linked by rob neyer…
SSS twitter race: me or the cheat? http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
Guess I should have been given an editors spot a long time ago, if it’s bad grammar he wants, I can deliver.
by Grinder in Training on Apr 21, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
The grammar thing was just gratuitous
A sentence or two – fine, go for it. He says it’s a pet peeve. He’s entitled. But to go on like he does is just lording over some poor doof for the sake of tone. The fact that he began with that introduces a degree of causticity to the entire piece – he denigrates before he argues.
The actual baseball content makes some sense but still, it’s the general tone of the thing (best summed up in the quotation in the Fanshot) that bugged me so much. He merged a battering a misguided post and his snitty dismissals of the Sox and the thing just turned out vinegar.
so it was the fact that he went to three sentences instead of two that pushed you over.
SSS twitter race: me or the cheat? http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
No, a sentence can't push a person over
In order to push me over Rob would have had to come to my office and place one or two hands on me and exerted a sudden, forward pressure causing me to lose by balance and land on my stomach or ass.
Sorry, pet peeve.
How can you "half expect" something?
I don’t know. It’s just a turn of phrase.
How do you “turn a phrase”?
I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator
thank god for that ass
"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313
Oh God, where to start
Critiquing a blog for mangling the English language is about as clever as holding a piece of candy just out of reach of a child’s grasp. You might laugh, but you’re still a giant tool.
I also like the hypothetical like ’Quentin might have had an off month", or “Quentin might have dropped a few critical fly balls”.
Come on Rob, I know ESPN is desperate for page views, but at least maintain some semblance of coherence.
The hypothetical? I thought it was determined here (at least) that his absence meant maybe
a potential 1 win? That the Sox managed to make that up by playing 163?
I’m not getting your point.
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
Considering how Quentin's WORST month up until that point was OPS 849
and that his BEST month was August in which his OPS was 1130, I somehow doubt that he would have had a onth worse than the horse shit other options the Sox were throwing out there in his absence.
And seriously, how many times do MLB outfielders drop critical fly balls that change the outcomes of a game? Quentin’s defense was slightly below average, as a slugging LF its importance in the grand scheme of things is trivial.
Neyer is just being a douchebag and an irrational one at that.
Incorrectly critiquing said blog, as it turns out (as noted in one of the comments).
Apparently, literally now means the exact opposite of literally. Literally.
by The Actual El Guapo on Apr 21, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
citing a dictionary isn't exactly the end of the debate
but that gets into the nature of language and all that. which is why i think having the debate is silly. you either understand the person or you need some clarification. if it’s the latter, then you two fucked up somewhere along the way in guessing each other’s linguistic background.
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Yeah, good and terrible!
couldn’t resist.
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
is there anyone the hoi won't shit on?
this just in: you will not agree with anyone 100% of the time. this does not make that person a douchebag. just like there’s no need to take a dump on Joe Sheehan for not properly respecting Alexei.
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by colintj on Apr 21, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I call it like I see it man.
What are you the comment police? GMAFB
Oh and thanks for the public service announcement. I’m going to print a copy of it and sticky it to my monitor.
oh, and fuck your high horse!
and i'm not doing the same?
i’m part of the anonymous hoards too. i don’t have mod powers and i wouldn’t exercise them here anyway. it’s not a high horse, it’s an observation. the rule of thumb seems to be let nothing go uncriticized, no matter how minute. fuck that.
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Let's be fair -- it's not dickish to point out dickishness in others, even if done dickishly.
The problem with Sheehan yesterday is not that he dissed Alexei, it’s the way he did it — overly strident, arrogant, no acknowledgment that may be some possibility that he is wrong or that there may be some merit to the other side of the argument. In other words, he was a dick.
Neyer, while perhaps not generally a dick, was dickish here. Criticism of grammar (incorrectly as it turned out)? “About Quentin … yeah, man”? Q is unlikely to repeat his season last year because he’s “never really done anything like that before, at least not in the majors”? “MVP voters don’t like losers?” What the hell is the point anyway of calling out some random website on small-time hero worship for a guy who is, at minimum, a damn good player? Q is not exactly Juan Pierre. The whole thing reeks of dickishness.
by The Actual El Guapo on Apr 21, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
We are giving Rob too much of an audience.
The only reason we are commenting on it is he has a bigger readership than other goofball sites – like ours. And maybe we expect higher standards from him than “so’s your Mom, Quentin-lover!”-like comments. But he is a human being, too, and perhaps had a bad day. I believe he hates the Sox, so this commentary of his is not upsetting because he is a DB and this is completely within his intent – diss the Sox. I made my hateful peace with him in ’06.
However, he generally does it in an erudite and creative way, backed up by statistics, and this seems lazy and flaccid. THAT upsets me. He should work harder on his hate. We deserve his best shot, and this was not it.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
Thank you for making the point that I was trying to make far, far better than I was making it
Are you available for my next speech at the UN?
i still like you because you write stuff like this every now and then
even if you pummel me.
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You're both pansies
I need video of a pummeling, and here you two are kissing and making up. Bullshit!
Now start fighting again!
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
it should go without saying that Joe
knows he’s been wrong and will be wrong and that those reading him know as much. throwing in “i think” or “it seems” is a way of making it more polite (and I personally worry about using such devices too much…i’ve got decisiveness issues), but Joe’s been doing this since, what, the mid-nineties? if he chooses not to mince words in a chat, so what? give the man some leeway.
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Rob Neyer is a catalyst.
Neither adds anything to, nor subtracts anything from, the equation. Initiates a reaction. Just wasted my time is all.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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