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Jose Contreras Is Lost Without His Forkball

Jose Contreras is not 100%. Sure, he can throw his fastball with good velocity (90-91MPH), but he just does not currently have the control neccessary to be a successful major league pitcher. 

After his last outing, we noted that Contreras was reluctant to use his forkball, throwing just 13 of them in his first two starts. Now we know why.

Contreras thew about that many forkballs as in his previous two outings combined, but unlike in those games these were noticable, and not for the right reasons. He bounced at least 5 of them well in front of the plate, way in front of the plate. Others, like his 5th inning offering to Luke Scott, did nothing but hang there begging to be hit hard. Scott did just that, pounding the ball to right field to give the O's a lead they would never relinquish.

By my count Contreras threw 2 forkballs that could be classified as "good" if you ignored the fact that they danced out of the zone and failed to induce a swing.

It's scary to think that maybe Count really is 100%, maybe he is all the way back. He spent most of last season pitching just well enough to stay in the rotation and lose games. And that's exactly where he's picked up this year.

And he doesn't even need his full arsenal to do it.

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I would be remiss if I didn't mention that the Ozzie Guillen-managed Sox are now 2-6 against teams with starters making their major league debut. The Sox haven't come out on the winning end of such a game since 2006, when they beat these same O's and Jim Johnson, who coincidentally pitched in this game as well. 

I should note that the Sox outpaced Charlotte's offensive output against Brad Bergesen by 50%. But, I'd also be forced to point out that Charlotte has the worst offense in the International League.

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Frustrating game

5th starter will be a major weakness this year, so I think we should get used to it. Of course, most of us probably realized this when the Javy trade went down.

Offense couldn’t get rolling against Bergesen, who seemed to show a pretty good sinker. Mixed with good enough command it was enough.

Quentin god a meatball in his 2nd to last at bat first pitch but stood frozen. That about summed up the night.

Oh well.

by madvillian on Apr 21, 2009 10:47 PM CDT reply actions  

One quibble

“He spent most of last season pitching just well enough to stay in the rotation and lose games.”

The Sox went 11-9 in his starts. Or am I misunderstanding something?

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Apr 21, 2009 10:56 PM CDT reply actions  

You're right

But I’m leaving it. There will be no re-writes for that POS game

by The Cheat on Apr 21, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

...was written very goodly.

fixed.

SSS twitter race: me or the cheat? http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry

by larry on Apr 21, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

are you serious?

“first wo starts”

“Contreras thew about that many forkballs as in his previous two outings combined”

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/21/848092/time-to-show-we-have-a-better#14535617

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 21, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

As you was.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Apr 21, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I THINK I FOUND IT!!!!!!!!!

"Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless" - Kenny Powers

by Choke Cubs Choke on Apr 21, 2009 11:24 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

That's fantastic.

Do you think it goes core deep?

my president is white.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Apr 21, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

coun-treras

is the kind of guy you put out there when your life is on the line because you know he will nut-up and deliver a gem. in relatively meaningless games his age overwhelms his pitching wisdom (or wizardry). if he would agree, i’d move him to the bullpen – if, and until, the playoffs.

Where time is meaningless, and outside of diamonds there are no dimensions.

by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on Apr 21, 2009 11:26 PM CDT reply actions  

aer we purposlie mispelling words on the rekap?

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/21/848092/time-to-show-we-have-a-better#14535617

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 21, 2009 11:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey, could you figure out the Sox record when facing a rookie for the first time, not just their mlb debut?

by chunk23 on Apr 22, 2009 12:05 AM CDT reply actions  

How does this affect Q!'s home run chase?

Have we gone from a gaudy 94 homers to a humble 82?

Also – have you noticed that Contreras’ (talent celing? luck? mojo? hoodoo?) affects the entire team? Jose is bad – the bullpen can’t stop the bleeding – and the position players are ice cold.

Three starts is a really small sample size – but everyone looks lost when he’s pitching.

by 67WMAQ on Apr 22, 2009 6:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Clearly he is contagious.

Infectious, even.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 7:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

i too enjoy shopping at skymall

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 22, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

One day I'm going to break down and buy the hot dog toaster

But that dog does look like one of the dogs the Soviets shot into space.

by 67WMAQ on Apr 22, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

if i enjoyed pepper on my food

this would be a must have

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 22, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Can he core a apple?

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ooooooh...he can core a apple!

(Yes, I’m actually old enough to get the reference).

- Ed Norton

"A dope trailer is no place for a kitty." - Bubbles (Trailer Park Boys)

by tailgater on Apr 22, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Except Che this last game

Pride.

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Apr 22, 2009 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of correlation equals causation

The Bulls also stunk after they visited the White House.

So – avoid the following:

Contreras
White House
Paniagua

by 67WMAQ on Apr 22, 2009 6:45 AM CDT reply actions  

Pardon my basketball ignorance

But is losing a road playoff game against the #2 seed by 3 points “stinking” ?

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Apr 22, 2009 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Bulls went to White House a long time ago. But if he was referring to the Celtics game, the team they are playing is not the same team that got that 2 seed. If they had Kevin Garnett on the team, then yes, I think losing by 3 points would be impressive.

They are playing against a team w/o their best player, and would have won if they had a half decent coach.

by Grinder in Training on Apr 22, 2009 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bulls went to the White House in Feb

And then promptly lost to the Wizards 113-90. I can understand the confusion – my premise is paper thin to begin with.

by 67WMAQ on Apr 22, 2009 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pierce is Boston's best

player and the Celts went 18-7 without Garnett, 12-2 at home. It’s not like they are playing the Kings or something. Not sure what your expectations were for this team, but they played two very good games.

no. a mime is when you don't talk, not when no one talks to you.
by MarketMaker on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM CDT

by jc2313 on Apr 22, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

This year, he is
Numbers can’t possibly describe Pierce’s all-around impact on a banged-up team that had no business winning 60 games. Since the beginning of February, when KG’s knees finally went south, Pierce averaged a 23-6-3, defended the opponent’s best perimeter scorer every night and carried the Celts emotionally. When Leon Powe went down in mid-March, the Celtics played their next 12 games with Kendrick Perkins, Mikki Moore and Glen Davis as their only big men … and went 10-2 during a desperation stretch.

no. a mime is when you don't talk, not when no one talks to you.
by MarketMaker on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM CDT

by jc2313 on Apr 22, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bulls still have the worst coach in the league

Celtics have Allen, Pierce, and the refs on their side.

That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 22, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t really care about this year so much just b/c they have no chance to win a championship anyways, so VDN losing games is not a big deal, I’m just hoping he doesn’t do anything to hurt D. Rose’s growth. I’ve seen no improvement on the defensive end, and for a guy as quick and strong as Rose is, there should be some by now. I just hope a new coach comes in soon enough that he can help Rose can reach his potential.

by Grinder in Training on Apr 22, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rose is pretty poor on defense, but he's really picked it up the past month

On-ball defense as a PG is overrated because it’s such a quick position, you can rarely keep up with your man without a strong defensive anchor in the middle. My concern is he doesn’t get more steals, and gets lost off screens too much.

VDN losing games wouldn’t be a big deal if he didn’t have a major role in at least 7 games this year where his coaching directly led to a loss. The young players are showing real growth, and he’s a handicap.

That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 22, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

not sure if this has been brought up, but Rose takes ROY

[link]

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 22, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 22, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

No kidding - Cheat, isn't it time to SSH this idiot?

Bad enough he’s an ignorant fool here, but now he’s our ambassador without portfolio to the rest of SBN. Being stupid is certainly a forgivable sin, but he’s just stirring up racist garbage just for the sake of stirring it up.

Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 22, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Thank you.

This is strike 3, as far as I am concerned – and I love the kids, as anyone will tell you. But first SSS, then KC, now Baltimore, is enough. Change the sig or be gone.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

you forgot BCB and DRaysBay

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 22, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like to get banned from BCB

I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.

by hoodlight on Apr 22, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, yeah. So basically everyone.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

the worst part of it is that

he’s not even the slightest bit amusing – there’s no redeeming qualities. If you’re gonna be an ass, at least be a funny ass.

Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 22, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

you know where they force people to change how they express themselves?

china, that’s where

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 22, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hardly an apt analogy (although I assume its with some sarcasm)

No one is stopping him from setting up his own White Sox blog and forum where he could say whatever he pleases.

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Apr 22, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

not that my opinion matters much

but i think JCM is guilty of two completely separate crimes that are getting conflated into one.

the first is the flagrant violation of cheat’s “don’t blatantly bring up politics” unwritten rule (see the super tuesday fanpost for a somewhat written note on it). yeah, we joke around about politics, race, and gender on here, but i think it’s because we follow what’s expressed in deadspin’s commentist manifesto: “first, be funny. second, do not not be funny.” JCM’s sig, while he has a ham-fisted-expressed point, brings up politics, and is not funny. therefore it needed to get switched up.

the second is trolling opponent’s gamethreads. that’s just a dick move. while the former crime didn’t help him, it’s still two separate things.

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 22, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

to me it's that he consistently showed he didn't give a shit about

anyone else. and he demonstrated that repeatedly despite being told by folks who had been here just as long as he had what a prick he was being. he was wrong on all sorts of counts and failed in any way to atone for them.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 22, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

come on man, he had the sig for months and months and months

so, in essence, it was tolerated around here. it wasn’t until he started shitting on oppo gamethreads that the hammer came down. i would expect the same to happen to any other member if they went around trolling on every opponent’s threads.

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 22, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's an email I sent Joe in July of '05
I don’t know what exactly you did to provoke it, but I had to ban a member who just joined for the specific purpose of calling you an asshole.

I wouldn’t be trolling the other sites on the SportsBlogs networks if I had any desire to continue posting there (or here). let’s try to watch what you post, and where you post, a little more closely in the future.

by The Cheat on Apr 22, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

so thats what the SB in SBnation stand for.

trolls are terrible.

Macs suck.

Just kidding. they’re ok.

thecip is now dead inside.

by thecip on Apr 22, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's up to Cheat to determine what's a bannable offense

but as far as i’m concerned, he made no effort to be a part of the community and as such has no reason to be here.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 22, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

he had a good rapport unless the stupid sig thing would get brought up

hell, even yesterday he had a post about the rain delay that got a lot of chuckles.

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 22, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Get a room, you too.

(Hitler liked dogs, too.)

Seriously, I agree. Moderation is the key. the tallest a-hole gets hammered down first. I may be next…or you, TSK. Or you, rhythm.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I misspelled "two".

That’s how big of an a-hole I am.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thus, you have surpassed even myself as #1 a-hole on SSS

Congrats, WU, I always knew you could do it!

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 22, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

i don't agree.

i found some things he did amusing. i found most of what he did to be annoying. by and large, he was invested in doing his own thing. and now he can. i hope he starts a great blog.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 22, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

"it was tolerated around here"

it was tolerated because the one person who can ban people around here apparently tolerated it. i didn’t tolerate it. i thought it was disgusting and told him at the first opportunity. multiple people over the months – both here and elsewhere – did the same thing and obviously didn’t tolerate it.

SSS twitter race: me or the cheat? http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry

by larry on Apr 22, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm so happy for you

doesn’t change the fact that he wasn’t banned for it at the outset or given an ultimatum to change it up at the outset. nor does it change the fact that the offenses he was publicly warned and then banned about were for inciting shit on other SBN sites.

you might not have liked it, other members might not have liked it, but he was still allowed to post freely months after starting the offending sig. thus, the behavior was tolerated. if you want to nitpick my language, then change “around here” to “by the site banhammer”.

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 22, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's like our own private version of the Ligues.

Having said that, I’m agin’ dropping the ban hammer and think the concerns that he reflects badly on SSS are probably overblown. Our not banning him certainly does not mean he somehow speaks for the site or any of us, and if he wants to make an ass of himself by getting himself banned by every other team’s site, that’s his business.

Full disclosure: I was against banning SSH as well, so take this for what it’s worth.

Just my 2 cents (probably not worth even that).

by The Actual El Guapo on Apr 22, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

so does sti3

be careful

The game was delayed for 10 minutes in the top of the sixth when home plate umpire Kerwin Danley was hit on the head by a broken bat and had to leave the field on a stretcher.

by e-gus on Apr 22, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's done been dropped

JCM was banned at the old site for offenses I can’t even remember, though I think it was being young and stupid mostly. I gave him a reprieve when we made the switch — it had been 2 years after all. he had to grow up in the interim — and told him to “prove he can behave.”

I think it’s pretty clear that under those guidelines, and with a metric shit ton of rope, he still failed.

by The Cheat on Apr 22, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sweet

I can reclaim my initials.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Apr 22, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you ever tell him to change the sig?

If not, its hard to say he did anything wrong except react to being treated like a leper. The sig discussion was almost entirely from others.

If you did, then he failed indeed.

by Trooper on Apr 22, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am all for free speech

but the masses have spoken. Gotta know your audience.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

he demonstrated continually that he doesn't give a shit about the community

it’s not like there are strict guidelines here. it doesn’t take much to stay unbanned.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 22, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about now?

The Left Coast had taken its toll on you, you POS. Everything loose slides to CA.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well then, what cities do your wives (current and ex) live in?

I wantsta have me some fun tonight!

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 22, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Barrington, IL,

Cal City, IL (I think), and Satellite Beach, FL.

Swing away.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does not compute.

If everything loose slides to CA, how come these ladies live in IL and FL?

I think there’s a problem with your theory, OPOS.

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 22, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

If they were loose perhaps I would still be married to them.

Wait, that implies my lovely wife, mother of my angel, is loose! I take that back!

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too late, sucker!

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 22, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're a pack of a-holes.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

But you’re one of us, BBBWWWWWWWAAAAAAHHHHHHHHAAAAAHHHHHHHAAAAA!

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 22, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Crap. That should be, you're one of me, BBBBWWWWAAAHHHHAAAAHHHAAA

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 22, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow, i'm surprised you didn't end that with an "effin' kids...."

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 22, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Would you kindly remove yourself from my lawn, sir?

:)

General Soreness mocks Q's highly-specific soreness. -TAEG 8/12/08

by homesickalien on Apr 22, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Guess you avoided military service at 18...

The entire world was old people yelling at you to do something you didn’t want to do, and you saying YES SIR!

It wasn’t about is sig, it was about his blatant not giving a shit about the rest of us. Most kids are NOT that socially unaware/bullet-proof.

Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...

by Chiburb on Apr 22, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

i listened to the people i respected

why be here if you respect no one else’s opinion?

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 22, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

For fuck's sake.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 22, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

my favorite part

“I’ve never had to delete 150 comments from a gamethread before tonight.”

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 22, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baltimore = Beijing.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jose looks like cp.

HOWEVER, believe it or not, his peripherals are not too dissimilar to his Mar / Apr career peripherals. Can’t paste BR stats now, but very similar.

"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08

by ballyb on Apr 22, 2009 9:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Oh yeah.

I’m on it.

"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08

by ballyb on Apr 22, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

He also looks like crap.

"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08

by ballyb on Apr 22, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

An encouraging sign

is that he has maintained the increased GB rate from last year. It is early, but I was a bit skeptical of that.

no. a mime is when you don't talk, not when no one talks to you.
by MarketMaker on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM CDT

by jc2313 on Apr 22, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

No "ra" - hmmm.

Rheumatoid arthritis? Ra, the sun God? Too many “runs allowed”?

(Trying to do Freudian analysis of bally.)

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 10:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Dammit, to bally.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Doesn't get any better

as you get older, WU.

"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08

by ballyb on Apr 22, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I may as well shoot myself now, bb.

;)

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't do it.

Too messy for the little lady to clean up.

"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08

by ballyb on Apr 22, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wait until colintj beats you up before you do anything rash

I really need video of the throw-down! I want to win America’s Funniest Home Videos this time!!!

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 22, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

just don't loan colin the tape

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 22, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Good point.

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 22, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

i just realized how much the gamethread is gonna suck for you on 5/22

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 22, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's coming to the grad party

That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 22, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe you can reminisce about Eddie CURRY...

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Sari about that.

(And I promise to NEVER do it again…freal.)

Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...

by Chiburb on Apr 22, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Freal, last one. I'm not really like that.

Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...

by Chiburb on Apr 22, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

True, why are you not being banned with JCM?

Double standards abound.

That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 22, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can be a douche within the family.

Embarassing the family outside the house is verboten.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, the old "drunk uncle" theorem

“Ha Uncle Sanjay just set our house on fire, he’s so kooky!”

That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 22, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

see?

he won’t even have you on here. it’s gonna be him, hoodie, maybe wiz, wtgtd, and jcm if he isn’t axed by then

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 22, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

getting banned is nothing

I remember a long time ago when I used to drink in a pub that was run by two homosexuals, they had a Norwegian barmaid working for them called anne helen, they caught me giving her one in the beer cellar – they banned me from drinking in there and then had the cheek to tell everyone I was taking cocaine in the toilets. I was distraught as it was my favourite pub and I’m still banned to this day about 6 years down the line.
You find other places to go and other things to do – exclusion can be a very positive experience in the end.

I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.

by hoodlight on Apr 22, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

And by giving her one, they meant a line of coke?

Just being cheeky…or did I use that correctly.

Fucking Brits. Oops, did I just type that? Nevermind.

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 22, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

And I forgot to mention...

you drink warm beer so you’re a stupid head!

Again, just being cheeky. Is that how you spell that?

Fucking Brits. Oops, did I just type that? Nevermind.

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 22, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

where did those 2 blokes end up when the government

banned fags in the pubs?

Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...

by Chiburb on Apr 22, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

still there

they always have had lots of customers so I don’t think it affected them much

I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.

by hoodlight on Apr 22, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

whoosh.

Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...

by Chiburb on Apr 22, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm humouring you

I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.

by hoodlight on Apr 22, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Way to rub it in, U-God, you POS.

BTW, Ozzie Montana, I’d be happy to attend your graduation party. Is there an evite or something? ;)

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 22, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

A messenger falcon will come shortly

That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 22, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it possible for WU to get any older?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Apr 22, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Throwaway line in BP
There doesn’t appear to be anything to the rumors that the White Sox might bring Aaron Rowand back to play center field in a trade with the Giants, but there is growing sentiment within the organization to move shortstop Alexei Ramirez to center and call up shortstop Gordon Beckham from Double-A Birmingham

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Apr 22, 2009 10:57 AM CDT reply actions  

interesting, well, that would weaken the defense even more

I’d be against any in season moves on the face of it, although I guess if BA continues to struggle and Beckham continues to light up Bham then things could change.

by madvillian on Apr 22, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

At the very least it would be exciting

When was the last time we had a prospect move up the ranks so quickly?

my president is white.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Apr 22, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

boone logan.

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by larry on Apr 22, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good answer. From the back lots of ST, to 25 man squad...

all because JT couldn’t hit him.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 22, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

well, boone did spend, like three years in rookie ball before that.

but you’re right about a rocket from there.

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by larry on Apr 22, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why not - bring the entire band back.

 Pods, Rowand…Maybe we could get El Duque back to give all our cuban players a pep talk before each game too. I am still waiting for Ozzie to cave and bring back Rock Raines – I miss his little run to 1B each inning to try and beat the throw during warmups. Harold (who?) just doesn’t play along.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Apr 22, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

At a minimum, be accurate

My president is half white.

"A dope trailer is no place for a kitty." - Bubbles (Trailer Park Boys)

by tailgater on Apr 22, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

here's a topic for you.

read what was posted at camden chat. and abide by it here.

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by larry on Apr 22, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I suspect this has escalated beyond Cheat

into a complete SBN ban. No one shall afford him food, drink or shelter within 500 miles of Rome upon pain of death:

Roman magistrates possessed the authority to impose certain coercive measures to ensure that they were unhindered in their ability to carry out official tasks. One such power was relegatio (relegation), which allowed them to expel any disruptive persons from a given area. While relegatio was used occasionally to remove troublesome foreigners from Rome, it was very rarely used against Roman citizens. Both exile as a legal penalty and relegation are discussed fully in Chapter Two. The proscriptions of the late 80s as employed by Sulla, however, are not considered, since they are a separate phenomenon.7 Several important differences mark proscription as distinct from both exile (voluntary and statutory) and relegatio. Once an exile had quit Roman territory and taken up a new residence abroad, he was effectively beyond the reach of Roman authorities. However, a proscribed man was considered a public enemy (hostis), and though he may flee from Roman territory, he was never afforded a safe resting place.

Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 22, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought "relegatio" was another name for incest.

Thx for the correction!

Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...

by Chiburb on Apr 22, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like the "hostis"

I didn’t realize that’s where “public enemy” originated

Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 22, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chuck D. is a deep deep man, what can I say.

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 22, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

James Cagney

Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 22, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Obviously, enough of the people on this board have had enough.

I am all for democracy and freedom of speech, but if this speech becomes blatantly racist or downgrading on a personal level – I all against it. I think he has had enough chances, it looks as the board has voted. Also it has now impacted a lot more than just us.

As my father always said – you get two chances…the first one where you f*cked up and the second one to correct it. If you don’t correct it, you get the back of the hand (with the rings). Made you think a little before you acted the second time.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Apr 22, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 22, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

so you just want to piss everybody off until you have nowhere else to play?

even WU says you should be gone. what the fuck is wrong with you?

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 22, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

i wonder if he thinks he'll get an "In Memoriam" thread

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 22, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please tell me that won't happen again

if I have to see Macdougal pitch to one more batter in a Sox uniform, I am afraid I will break my TV.

no. a mime is when you don't talk, not when no one talks to you.
by MarketMaker on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM CDT

by jc2313 on Apr 22, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm, could be an economic stimulus plan in there

Sox fans around the country have to replace their TVs.

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Apr 22, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same misguided concept as stimulating the economy

by breaking windows. To wit:

Bastiat used the example of the a broken window. Repairing the window stimulates the glazier’s pocketbook. But unseen is the loss of whatever would have been done with the money instead of replacing the window. Perhaps the one who lost the window would have bought a pair of shoes. Or invested it in a new business. Or merely enjoyed the peace of mind that comes from having cash on hand. The repair of the window is seen. The loss is unseen and therefore easily goes unnoticed. So it is with most actions of the government to "stimulate" the economy. It is easily forgotten that the resources to do the stimulating must come from somewhere like the water at the deep end of the pool.

http://www.invisibleheart.com/Iheart/EconomyPresidential.html

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was being facetious

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Apr 22, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

So was I.

Commence window breaking, vince.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

General Soreness mocks Q's highly-specific soreness. -TAEG 8/12/08

by homesickalien on Apr 22, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

some other possible sigs

my igloo is white.
my bread is white.
my favorite guy from Jackson 5 is now white.*
the whale I hunt is white.
my favorite centerfielder is white.*

*slightly offensive.

thecip is now dead inside.

by thecip on Apr 22, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

as a sig, I never fully understood why it was offensive

I just assumed he was a French or German citizen, in which case, his sig was simply a fact.

My Sox are White

by Nordhagen on Apr 22, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was given more than enough opportunities (SSS and elsewhere) to defend his choice of sig. The sig itself did not cause his demise...his responses to the responses to it (which seemed to be what he was interested in anyway)

were ridiculous and trollish. So while the sig was “non-offensive” on the surface of “well, he’s stating a fact!”…let’s be honest…the offense came with his ignorance.

Plain and simple: if you don’t want to answer to it, don’t say it. And certainly don’t act like a dickwad to the inquiring minds who call it out in wonder.

General Soreness mocks Q's highly-specific soreness. -TAEG 8/12/08

by homesickalien on Apr 22, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

got it

didnt know the backstory.

OK, I’ll side with the pitchforks on this one. Yay mob! :)

My alien is homesick

by Nordhagen on Apr 22, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

(Harrumph, harrumph, harrumph.)

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

My favorite Jack is White. (Or, My stripes are white.)

The good guys wear White.
My noise is white.
My Sox are white.
My face is white (but my a$$ is red).

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

since this was a topic discussed previously - why/how a position change is correlated with increased injury.
One of the most misunderstood issues with changing positions is the risk that it entails. Over the past five seasons for which I have detailed injury data, players making a move have a 30 percent increase in the risk of injury if they’ve never played the position before. This is across the board, whether moving from something simple—like switching from left field to right—or more complicated, like going from the outfield to second base, as Kelly Johnson did a couple of seasons ago (and that after coming up as a player who had been playing the left side of the infield in the minors). It may seem counterintuitive that no single position—especially one like second base, where the second baseman’s back is to the double play in most situations—is more dangerous to move to than any other, but it does focus on the true source of the danger: unfamiliarity.



One theory that seems to hold true is that fielding is instinctive. Yogi Berra said that he couldn’t think and hit at the same time; it’s perhaps more true that a player can’t think and field simultaneously. That millisecond of hesitation might lead to a collision, or being in the wrong place, or getting off to a slow start, possibly causing a muscle strain as the player tries to physically overcompensate. Any change—new position, new park—will throw that wee bit of thinking into the mix.

How long does it take for a player to get comfortable? It’s different for everyone, but it appears to take somewhere between 30 and 60 games before the risk level returns to normal. Remember, that risk does not predict a result—just because a player is more likely to be hurt doesn’t mean that he’s guaranteed to be injured. It’s likely that the position change also has an effect on defense, and even on offense, but that is more difficult to judge because of the number of complicating variables.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8769

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by larry on Apr 22, 2009 12:30 PM CDT reply actions  

you mean kinda like "Fat Toby" Hall?

Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 22, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

sure, could be an example.

though i think toby had some experience at 1B prior to that. of course, one can query whether playing a position infrequently in ST through the years or far in the past and then playing that position again doesn’t carry the same or similar “unfamiliarity” risk. i.e., is playing a position like the proverbial riding a bike.

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by larry on Apr 22, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dumb question

Does this take into account that most of the time players come up at the most difficult position they can play while they are at their best athletically / healthwise, and then as they get older / don’t cut it / get fat / etc… they get switched. The same things that make you injury prone also you make worse at defense, and lead to you switching positions. I imagine he’s probably taken this into account, but I didn’t see anything that mentioned it.

by Grinder in Training on Apr 22, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

An excellent question. Which raises another...

Does he differentiate among the reasons for a switch? For example, the aging/less range ala GSoreness type or…
Due to organizational needs like Che playing 2B last year because of OC/JU/PO, then to SS this year with those 3 gone.

Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...

by Chiburb on Apr 22, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Most guys don't get switched to CF from 2B/SS

late in their careers. Kelly Johnson, example used above, is young. If you are talking about moves to the corners (IF and OF) from the middle positions I think you’ve got a point, but I don’t think that is a relevant point relating to switches to/within the middle of the field.

Good postulation. You are thinking out there, GIT. Now cut it out – YOU’RE HURTING THE TEAM!

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

good point

now your thinking like a baseball man, not a statistician.

by Hatchetm on Apr 22, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think you guys kind of just need to read the article.

because i’m not particularly interested in relating the whole bloody thing.

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by larry on Apr 22, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK then, last question:

Does he think Beckham will get hurt at 2B while giving Nix a turn at SS?

kthxbai

Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...

by Chiburb on Apr 22, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I read it - and he doesn't account for the degree of diffficulty per position.

Yes, his focus is on “repetition” of motion, which makes sense. But I used to play shortstop a long time ago and definitely took most of my reps at SS. Last year I acquitted myself pretty well at 3B, which most would agree is a less rigorous position to play, even though I had not played 3rd since I was 14.

I don’t believe (and that’s all we’re talking about, since this is all postulation) moving to a corner position from an interior position would increase injury risk because the corners are easiest to play.

If you disagree, or if I am misinterpreting his theory, please correct me.

(Puts on helmet, unclips light sabre from belt.)

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm not going to re-read the article now

but i thought he said it didn’t matter what position you were moving to/from because the increased risk was the same.

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by larry on Apr 22, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

It does - I was taking issue with that assumption.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

seems like that wouldn't be an assumption.

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by larry on Apr 22, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought you always had your helmet on?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Apr 22, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

only when he visits the ex's...

Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...

by Chiburb on Apr 22, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

does he show the data?

is he comparing all injuries or just injuries that happened while playing in the field?

by Hatchetm on Apr 22, 2009 12:42 PM CDT reply actions  

DAMMIT

regarding will carrol.

by Hatchetm on Apr 22, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

his injury data is proprietary and he doesn't share.

since he seems to think that position change could have an effect on offense, as well, i imagine he’s including all injuries, though i don’t know.

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by larry on Apr 22, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

about 7-8 years ago

will carroll posted at a baseball discussion forum called NetShrine. he was just getting started and really knew very little about baseball. his dad was a doctor, so that was his medical expert. i always thought his analysis left a lot to be desired, but i haven’t read anything by him in years. maybe he’s good now, i dunno, but i wouldn’t trust anyone who doesn’t share his data.

by Hatchetm on Apr 22, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's pretty darn good now.

i agree somewhat regarding his data. however, i also understand why he doesn’t want to share. he’s got a niche that no one else has and sharing the data that made him that niche is rather – what’s that popular word these days? – collectivist.

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by larry on Apr 22, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

does he give any data?

i mean you can show parts of the data that prove the point but would be useless for other analysis. spell out the argument….between 2000-2008 there were exactly XXX injuries that occurred in the field. of those XX% were players who had less than XX games of previous experience at that position. That percent is much higher than one would expect had the injuries been equally distributed.

by Hatchetm on Apr 22, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

The synapsis of his statements seem like they would be correct

Basically, it makes sense. I don’t know about the data…I guess you have to trust him on it.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Apr 22, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

What does Coop

Say about Contreras?
Just curious – I haven’t seen anything or my eagle missed it.

"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell

by phastphil on Apr 22, 2009 1:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Speaking of Jose Contreras...

Did anyone else enjoy him when he was part of the Three Tenors?
I liked him, but his quality wasn’t the same as Domingo and Pavrotti.

Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...

by Chiburb on Apr 22, 2009 2:02 PM CDT reply actions  

thecip is now dead inside.

by thecip on Apr 22, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Twins getting smoked 10-1

7th inning – in rain delay.

My alien is homesick

by Nordhagen on Apr 22, 2009 2:12 PM CDT reply actions  

HA! We scored 3 in giving up 10.

Win.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

you make home made wine don't you?

I have a question

I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.

by hoodlight on Apr 22, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

No. Is that an Italian crack?

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's polite that way

I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.

by hoodlight on Apr 22, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just messin' with ya, hoodster.

General Soreness mocks Q's highly-specific soreness. -TAEG 8/12/08

by homesickalien on Apr 22, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

he doesn't know the answer to the question that I haven't asked anyway

I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.

by hoodlight on Apr 22, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

no I thought I remembered you going on about it

must have been mistaken – sorry

I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.

by hoodlight on Apr 22, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I drink it - I don't create it.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 22, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I gotta tell ya, DJ, when you're right, you're right!

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 22, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

WHITE SOX

Getz 2b

Fields 3b

Quentin lf

Thome dh

Dye rf

Konerko 1b

Pierzynski c

Ramirez ss

Anderson cf

Danks p

BALTIMORE

Roberts 2b

Jones cf

Markakis rf

Huff 1b

Wigginton 3b

Scott dh

Montanez lf

Zaun c

Izturis ss

Guthrie p

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by larry on Apr 22, 2009 2:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Lineups
BALTIMORE – Here are the lineups for Wednesday night’s game between the White Sox and Baltimore:

WHITE SOX

Getz 2b

Fields 3b

Quentin lf

Thome dh

Dye rf

Konerko 1b

Pierzynski c

Ramirez ss

Anderson cf

Danks p

BALTIMORE

Roberts 2b

Jones cf

Markakis rf

Huff 1b

Wigginton 3b

Scott dh

Montanez lf

Zaun c

Izturis ss

Guthrie p

Baltimore starter Jeremy Guthrie is 0-2 lifetime against the Sox with a 5.50 ERA in five career appearances. In his three starts against the Sox, he is 0-2 with a 6.75 ERA.

by Sox-35th on Apr 22, 2009 2:37 PM CDT reply actions  

are we playing twice?

I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.

by hoodlight on Apr 22, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's just re-post day for sox-35th

two reposts in a matter of two minutes. possibly a record.

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by larry on Apr 22, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see Cheat's Fanshot

Fair enough.

Can only mods delete posts?

by Sox-35th on Apr 22, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

yup

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 22, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Day-night doubleheader in Detroit, 7/24
BALTIMORE – The White Sox announced their April 14 game that was rained out in Detroit has been rescheduled for July 24 as part of a day-night doubleheader at Comerica Park.

The rescheduled game will start at 12:05 p.m. (CDT) time, with the regularly scheduled game starting at 6:05 p.m. (CDT).

The Sox and Tigers avoided having to play on a regularly scheduled day off. Last year, the Sox and Tigers played a makeup game one day after the end of the regular season because the game had playoff implications.

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/04/white-soxdetroit-game-rescheduled-for-july-24.html

by Sox-35th on Apr 22, 2009 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

oh great, a day night double header

I know it’s all about maximizing revenue, but come on.

by madvillian on Apr 22, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was an asshole. Do you need more of a description?

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 22, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kinda makes me wonder...

considering we’re a pack of a-holes, how the hell have we not banned ourselves?

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 22, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, that was fast.

Good point. I knew I could count on you.

So…about that beat down you’re going to lay on WU…

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 22, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I like to hear

don’t give him a chance to get in a cheap shot!

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 22, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great, I'm surrounded by assholes...

Alexander Hamilton shot Alexander Hamilton...

by Hazymania on Apr 22, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah

the citizen kane of mel brooks space spoofs…

thecip is now dead inside.

by thecip on Apr 22, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

my mom never took us to see a movie again

after my brother and i thoroughly embarassed her losing our shit throughout the whole movie, but especially when he said, ’ and I see your Schwartz is as big as mine.’

The game was delayed for 10 minutes in the top of the sixth when home plate umpire Kerwin Danley was hit on the head by a broken bat and had to leave the field on a stretcher.

by e-gus on Apr 22, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

he went over to CC

and caused a shitstorm with his sig. they ended up deleting 100+ comments and instituting a written rulebook for commenting there.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 22, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, you're awake!

Let me know when you’ve taken a few bong hits, I have a question to ask you. (Up yours, HSA!)

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 22, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

bong hits?

what do you take me for? some deadbeat college kid who can’t hold down a job or graduate for that matter?

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 22, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, yes.

Only I think deadbeat is a bit harsh.

How many classes do you have left? (serious inquiry)

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 22, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

i have 4 outstanding incompletes, three of which i intend to finish

the fourth i’m going to make up with a different class over the summer.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 22, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

colintj, you are clutch!

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 22, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

i have 4 outstanding incompletes, three of which i intend to finish

the fourth i’m going to make up with a different class over the summer.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 22, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

i have 4 outstanding incompletes, three of which i intend to finish

the fourth i’m going to make up with a different class over the summer

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm waiting for you to repeat yourself

otherwise I cannot believe that you are a pot-head, not will I be able to believe that you are in college.

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 22, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

what now?

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 22, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

his my president is white sig?

has he been banned or what?

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart

by Jbasic89 on Apr 22, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

from here and at least three other SBN baseball sites

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

boooo

he was the only guy here who made me look like a saint!

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/21/848092/time-to-show-we-have-a-better#14535617

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 23, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

You could read the referenced thread at the link U-G provided upthread...

Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...

by Chiburb on Apr 22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think he wants to know the exact comments

which are gone forever as they were deleted completely by the mods over at CC (and rightfully so)

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 22, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

From Baeball Prospectus' John Perotto;;;;;

“there is growing sentiment within the organization to move shortstop Alexei Ramirez to centerfield and call up shortstop Gordon Beckham from Double AA Birmingham. Hmmm. I could have sworn someone on this site contemplated as much. Must be those in the Sox organization with similar thoughts….

by dantesox on Apr 22, 2009 3:13 PM CDT reply actions  

it truly is repost day

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 22, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

you mean vince at 10:57am on this thread?

SSS twitter race: me or the cheat? http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry

by larry on Apr 22, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

;;;;; minor league thread

might be a better place for self-congratulatory back patting

by The Cheat on Apr 22, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

if we had one.

Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...

by Chiburb on Apr 22, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

;;;;;

;;;;;

Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...

by Chiburb on Apr 22, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly, though....

I really wouldn’t want to move Alexei now. I think he looks really good at short. But I think we’re a better club with Beckham. That’s why I pondered giving him some reps at third recently, because, gun to my head, it is Fields who I am less optimistic about as an overall productive ballplayer vs. Getz.

by dantesox on Apr 22, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think I'll be able to provide a shitty recap tonight

I’ve got to help my technically illiterate father figure out how to navigate a world in which the first step to finding a job is not picking up a newspaper

by The Cheat on Apr 22, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions  

I feel bad for your Dad - it is brutal out there.

Worse than 1980, when I graduated. Is he using LinkedIn yet?

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's tonight...

I set it up already, but I gotta get him all connected up

by The Cheat on Apr 22, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

:( Sorry to hear that, Cheat. Good luck to you and pops.

General Soreness mocks Q's highly-specific soreness. -TAEG 8/12/08

by homesickalien on Apr 22, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

try to keep him from circling the prospects in marker

ruins an LCD in a snap.

that sucks, though. our dean just spammed alumni asking for more help getting jobs for newbie grads. if the YPOSs are having this much trouble…..

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 22, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes - you don't need to finish that thought in writing.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

shit - good luck mate

I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.

by hoodlight on Apr 22, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mr. Ed? Is it really you?

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 22, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, why the long face?

BWHAHAHAHA!

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 22, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

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