Afternoon Thread
by larry on Apr 8, 2009 12:43 PM CDT
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PrintThat Rany is gone. He’s fed up. He’s watched Trey Hillman make enough dumb decisions with his bullpen (like this one). He watched as Trey Hillman lost the clubhouse, the cardinal sin for any manager, last August before he was rescued by the team’s improbable 18-8 run in September. And he’s decided that whatever Hillman accomplished in Japan, it means absolutely nothing if he can’t perform third-grade math in his head, the kind of math that says the guy with the 2.61 ERA last year is better than the guy with the 4.48 ERA.
The worst part of all this is that we all saw it coming. Every last one of us knew from the moment they read Hillman’s words about keeping Farnsworth in the eighth-inning role that it would cost the Royals dearly at some point. We didn’t know it would be Opening Day, against one of our chief rivals, with the justice meted out by one of our greatest nemeses. But we knew it was coming. With the Royals, no bad decision ever goes unpunished.
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I hope Farnsworth pitches today
There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST
" Cheat I would like to become a managing editor. Email me what I need to do."-by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 1:46 PM PDT
" You've got step one down. Sucking a lot of dick."- by The Cheat on Apr 2, 2009 1:58 PM PDT
i remember how i felt
on opening day 2004.
politte, koch and marte in the 9th. blargh.
brian anderson would've caught that...
Yes. I know how they feel.
idea:
1: build shitty domed stadium
2: invest in scouting
3: have everyone grow sideburns
4: profit$$$
typical south side sox meathead.
holy crap. now that Ive finished reading it...
I’m with you. Not that I want the Sox to lose to them, but jeez.
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
Would this apply to Ozzie/Wise too, or...
Is Rany a little over the top? (Back to reading Rany, back in a few)
What happened on Opening Day was the ultimate example of what behavioral psychologists call "negative feedback", and you’d think that would be enough to learn. (Even lab rats know that if you shock them every time they press a lever, they should stop pressing the lever.) But Hillman shouldn’t have needed the negative feedback of a game-winning three-run homer to learn. If he’s not smart to figure out on his own that Juan Cruz is a better reliever than Kyle Farnsworth, he’s probably not smart enough to realize that if Decision A leads to Outcome B, the best way to avoid Outcome B again is to stop making Decision A.
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
And.....the Royals
paid Farnsworth how much in the offseason???? They aren’t paying him for a Mike MacDougal role (Farnsworth signing makes me feel a little better about this signing) in the bullpen…I think the blame goes to the Royals front office as much as Hillman.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 8, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
if you let the amount a guy is being paid dictate your decisions, you're stupid.
and what then is it that they pay ron mahay $4M for? or does that extra $250K to kyle make that decision easy.
Stupid is as stupid does
It happens with a lot of teams. Look at Fukudome.
I’m not saying it is right – but why did you sign this bum to that contract? Obviously, the scouting dept. blew this one….was it wrong, yeah. Was it all Hillman, no.
It was one game – now Hillman has confirmed that he sucks in those situations. Regardless of what he says about Farnsworth still being trustworthy in that role, lets see if he keeps him in there for that same situation. If he does, then he is stupid.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 8, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
so he needed confirmation that a guy sucks.
got it.
and if your options are gathright, fukudome, and johnson, i’m not sure using fukudome in a platoon is a “stupid” decision. frankly, some might argue that playing him over the other two is the correct decision.
My point is - he is getting paid as a top setup man.
Do you agree?
Apparently the front office/GM/Scouts, whatever – thought he was good enough for this role, or why pay him that amount of money?
So, to say this all lies on Hillman is a incorrect…he deserves a significant part of the blame for putting him out there. But, the organization as a whole is also to blame.
Fukudome in my opinion needs to be sent down to work on his mechanics and adjustments, but he won’t because of the contract.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 8, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
yes, he's getting paid as a top setup man.
so his ron mahay. so is juan cruz. why did hillman choose kyle as his “8th inning guy” and why did he leave him out there? fine, the front office gives you the options. but the manager arrays the options. this wasn’t a close decision at all. farnsworth shouldn’t have been out there to begin with and he certainly shouldn’t have been out there for thome. moore and his scouts weren’t down there in the dugout managing the team.
I don't see Mahay
showing anything better than Farnsworth in previous matchups??
Thome vs. Mahay
8AB, 2Hits – a double and HR, 3BB and 2K
Thome vs. Cruz
0AB, 1BB
Thome vs. Farnsworth
3AB, 1 Hit – a double, 1BB, 2K
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 8, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
oh for fucks sake.
please do not cite samples of 4 PAs. good lord. do i seriously need to write a post about sample sizes? i need to spoon feed you guys?
I knew that would get you fired up!
Forget the writing about sample sizes…instead, continue to work at becoming the next Royals manager.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 8, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Forget it - he's on a roll.
Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.
What is this sample size
thing being mentioned?? I think we need a fanshot regarding this phenomena.
no. a mime is when you don't talk, not when no one talks to you.
by MarketMaker on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM CDT
He's "old for the league".
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
by Chiburb on Apr 8, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
let me remind you that our own resident genius
Kenny Williams also was high on Fukudome and offered him a nice sum of cash to boot. just thank your lucky stars that he chose to be the first japanese cub or else he would be battling wise for our center field role!
Kenwo4life=ratings
Just to get the tizzy going.
I am in favor of Mahay over Farnsworth.
But Mahay has fared worse than Farnsworth against Thome (small sample size, but in 11 PAs, Thome has hit 1 HR, 1 2B and drawn 3 walks against Mahay). Mahay also has pretty small platoon splits; less than a 50 OPS difference. Mahay is a good reliever because he is a good reliever, not because he is a lefty killer of any sort whatsoever.
Just because I like the road less traveled.
Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.
Well, when you put it like THAT:
Regardless the level of baseball complexity you choose to view this decision, it was obviously the wrong one. And I should say that for ever questionable decision there are usually there abouts an even amount of people on both sides of the argument. I don’t think I have ever seen a situation where it was so blatantly obvious to everyone, baseball priest and layman alike.
OK, I relent. Uncle. I give – it was a horrible decision.
Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.
Is that what you said in proceedings
for divorces from Wife A and Wife B??
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 8, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
You forgot "C", though I never questioned my own stupidity on that one.
Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.
She obviously was questioning hers before she took her life.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 8, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Say, did you hear the one about TAEG not liking Field's bunt for a hit?
Hee.
(I wonder if he has a sense of humor?)
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
I believe so.
His anger seemed to be a momentary lapse of reason. He was poking fun at himself shortly thereafter.
Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.
"Momentary lapse of reason" = Total Fucking Asshole.
I’m apologizing again.
by The Actual El Guapo on Apr 8, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Happy Passover, DB.
;)
Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.
I dunno. That guy seems pretty uptight to me.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 8, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL.
Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.
(also, I think he was crossing his fingers that the cloaking gods would make it all just go away).
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 8, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Cloaking God is dead. And we have killed him.
- Nietzsche
by The Actual El Guapo on Apr 8, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
You ALL killed him! And my brother! And Riff! Not with bullets and knives! With HATE! Well, I can kill now too, because now I have hate!!! How many can I kill Chino? How many -- and still have one bullet left for me?
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 8, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
don't you know how to add and subtract? fucking port sluts for ya.
;)
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
One game? Come on.
Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.
i think as rany has sort of explained, there are a few more things you can lay at his door.
it’s not like this is the first time he’s majorly fucked up bullpen usage.
You are a master of the understatement when speaking
to who you consider children, aren’t you? I read the post. Name one – ONE – manager EVER fired after the first game of the year.
ONE! And then you can “goo goo, gaa gaa” me all you want, counselor.
Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.
what does it matter whether it's the first or the last of the season.
we have his track record. it’s not like he’s being fired after one game on the job. it’s obvious that he hasn’t learned much.
well, he did learn
the truth about santa claus, the tooth fairy, and the easter bunny.
brian anderson would've caught that...
My point is that it was the first game of the season.
No matter the track record of ANY other manager in history, as far as I can tell, NO MLB manager has ever been fired after the first game of the year. Not even Billy Martin. And if I’m wrong I will acknowledge it. But I’m not. Ted Turner inserted himself in the role for one game in 1990 but it was not at the start of the season.
That was my point in reference to colin’s post. And it wasn’t meant for you. So eff off.
Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.
Have you not effed off yet?
Fer Chrissakes.
Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.
don't be such a bastard to likeable colintj, you bastard
If it isn’t already obvious, I just wanted to write bastard.
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
I was referencing the lawyer.
I love colin.
Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.
Wow...that is pretty cut throat larry.
So the Royals decide to give him one more chance this year and if he blows it with the bullpen, he is out. That is worse than Steinbrenner! That will make everyone on the team feel warm and fuzzy.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 8, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
how long would you give a guy?
again, his bullpen usage was pretty poor last season and it’s apparent with this colossal mistake that he hasn’t learned much. if these guys really think they’re contending, how many games are you going to let your manager blow? three? five? how many before your team feels all warm and fuzzy about their chances of winning being pissed away by a manager? as already noted, it’s not like hillman engenders a great deal of love with royals players.
As GM of the Royals
What do you do? You either fire him after last season if you weren’t happy or you give an opportunity to get things on track this year….maybe you give a window to do it in, but not one game. Sure it is a negative strike against him…but you don’t can him yet.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 8, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
mail-it-in gm
Yer thinking the gm doesn’t have much to do with 1) bringing in Farnsworth, 2) using him in the 8th?
by EddyStanky'sGhost on Apr 8, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Overrating Farnsworth
I think if kw had signed Farnsworth, a lot of people here would have gone nutso.
by EddyStanky'sGhost on Apr 8, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
count me out of that thinking
http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 8, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
you stated a bunch of people on here would go nuts if we got him.
I was simply saying, count me out.
http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 10, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions
I would have gone nuts
In fact, I would have ripped them off and mailed them to KW himself. Attached would be a note: Are you happy? Because here they are." The benefit, you ask? No more testosterone to drive my search for competitive war simulation and thus I won’t kill myself when The Farnbuster gives up a season losing grand slam to Reggie Willits. I know, it’s awful, but it’s a survivor instinct.
Those poor, poor Royals fans.
by Daniel Berlyn on Apr 8, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
eddy i guess you can count daniel out as well
http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 10, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions
fuel to the fire baby
http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 8, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Bickerson, in a pensive mood, sheds a single tear.
by The Actual El Guapo on Apr 8, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Was it Opening Day? Huh?
Was he shot and killed? Did he die of a heart attack? Did he go insane like Nietzche? From syphillis?
Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.
it would be much more logical to fire "GMDM"
So much for the young stud
by Daniel Berlyn on Apr 8, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
you'll never walk alone
liverpool facing chelsea in the champions league for the 5th time in five years. mercy. what are the chances of that?
brian anderson would've caught that...
john terry is a wanker
and his mother is a criminal. and he’ll miss the next match.
brian anderson would've caught that...
and now drogba!
well, barcelona is my favorite anyways.(assuming celtic is out, which is always.)
brian anderson would've caught that...
a lot of real estate being used up on soccer here....
I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator
Soccer image rebuttal fail.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 8, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
but much smaller. Thanks much!
I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator
hehehe. I prefer the red x box too.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 8, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, dude needs to chill on that
Reds are dunzo now anyways
two questions:
did this game already happen? if not, does anyone know of a bootleg feed?
4.2.09 - anno Cutler
Nah. "Guiding Light".
A soap opera about managers set in KC.
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
Nah, "General Hospital" is the back end of our rotation
Starring Herm Schneider
White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.
my first thought upon reading that
the sox and royals are chief rivals?
I know the same division crap but I’ve always had a hard time getting nervous/excited about playing the royals. maybe because they’ve always sucked in my life
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
in the context of "Royals improvement" versus "defending ALC champs who will suck this year"
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
in the context of "other than '07, who gives a shit about the Royals"?
I’m guessing.
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
But, but, remember when they went 16-3 to start the season a few years back? You didn't give a shit then??
No, me neither.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 8, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I paid no mind to them then
or this year when my Sawx/Yankee friends told me they’d be much improved.
Who was the coach that got pummeled by a Sox fan?
Royals coach, right? There you go. It runs deep.
Never forget!
Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.
There have been some years where the Sox for whatever reason had conniption fits with KC
White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.
dont know if you guys did this before
but posting this picture after the Carrasco swatting flys picture, is GOLD!
http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 8, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's much more on their end than ours
Don’t know if ppl here agree, but I consider MN and Cleve our two big rivals, followed by Detroit, and then KC a distant 4th.
As far as the AL goes, I’d also keep Oakland in the next group b/c of our misery out West.
cleveland will always be our biggest rivals, no matter how many times the twins PUNTO us.
once the twins move into their new stadium and become insignificant, we will hate cleveland again.
http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 8, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Twinkies out of water
Amen to that.
It was annoying yet perversely gratifying to see the twins win in the ninth last night in part because of Span rainbowing a ball off the concrete in front of home plate for a single.
I’m thinking those antics will be the stuff of twinkie nostalgia next year.
by EddyStanky'sGhost on Apr 8, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Change Your Name Or Declare Yourself A Twin Fan
Logic dead and gone
Its ghost haunts all our slumbers
Where triples have died
Here’s the White Sox’s lineup Wednesday night against Kansas City:
Dewayne Wise cf
Chris Getz 2b
Carlos Quentin lf
Jim Thome dh
Jermaine Dye rf
Paul Konerko 1b
A.J. Pierzynski c
Ramirez ss
Fields 3b
Floyd p
The Royals’ lineup has yet to be posted. With right-hander Zack Greinke on the mound, Dewayne Wise makes his second consecutive start at the leadoff spot.
I'll be in section 116 tonight if anyone wants to stop by and talk sample sizes.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 8, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
shouldn't you do that at the urinals?
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
by Chiburb on Apr 8, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
I could do that...Canseco.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 8, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
So chances are we don't see BA get a start out in center until Sunday
when Liriano is the projected starter. Assuming Ozzie sticks to the platoon.
Alexander Hamilton shot Alexander Hamilton...
Ah, you are correct sir.
I wonder if Ozzie will throw Anderson out there at the top of the order, or if we’ll see Ramirez, or Fields, or maybe even Getz up there. Should be interesting to see.
Alexander Hamilton shot Alexander Hamilton...
Cheat, larry, non-"meatheds" - here's your chance
Yes, it’s almost exactly what you think it is. Do you want to write for BP? Now is your chance. We’ll be accepting any and all submissions, and anyone is eligible providing they can accept the prize, which is a contract to write once a week for Baseball Prospectus from the time of your victory through the final out of the World Series in October. And just for fun, we’ll throw in $1,000 dollars for the winner as well.
White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.
More accurately, "why April games blown by managerial f-up count"!
The conclusion says it just fine, though the entire article should be read… especially by the fans of a team that had to go 163 games to make the playoffs last year.
The entire season matters. Each game counts exactly the same as every other, and working toward the elimination of the “when it counts” fallacy would be a very good next project for those of us in the advocacy wing of the performance analysis house.
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
If the Sox lost game 163 last year
I would have ranted about that never-ending baltimore game forever
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I am not getting anything on Managers fucking up bullpen usage
or maybe I’m not getting the entire article because I don’t subscribe. What I am reading is that each game counts, DUH, and that blowing a series in the beginning of the year is the same as at the end of the year, DUH.
The point to fire Hillman after Game 1 of the season is still preposterous, in my opinion.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 8, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't watch a ton of games out side of the Sox, Yanks and Mets
But Guillen has to be among the best bullpen managers in the game. That’s his strong suit as a manager, and it makes whatever sort of misguided thinking he has regarding leadoff and CF superflous.
Boy, you're not on this site much.
Guillen has his loyalists, especially in handling pitchers (I’m one of them), but he is roundly second-guessed any time anyone effs up in the pen.
(e.g. LOGAN? AW, CRAP! TABASCO? DAMMIT! THORNDOG FOR ANOTHER INNING? WTF OZZIE? You have obviously forgotten last year.)
Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.
I really don't care what the peanut gallery on some cow town blog says
IMO Guillen handles the pen excellently. This sort of hindsight guessing you mentioned is worthless.
"Cow town blog"? "Peanut gallery"? I'm talking about SSS.
Who are you talking about?
Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.
It would only be brought up by someone from Michigan.
Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.
Ah, Michigan.
Nice economy there. Great state in which to do business.
NOW I get it. Source considered.
Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.
hey, I live in NYC, my rents got a nice place up by the lake in Charlevoix I visit in the summer
Warm nights, sit outside on the porch, drink a beer, and listen to the insects. Shoot some horseshoes with a few hometown friends if the mood strikes.
Get drunk, go on a country booze cruise down dirt roads with the radio turned way up.
Michigan rocks!
Sounds like Central Florida?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 8, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
the night sky is amazing
no light pollution – you suddenly realize there’s as many stars in the sky as grains of sand in the desert.
Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.
The three nihilist schizophrenics
that hide in the tiny bathroom in the bullpen.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 8, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice marmot.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 8, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
A lot of this is due to uneasyness of the bullpen
and some of it is due to drinking (excessively).
On the whole, in hindsight – I think most people on this board think Ozzie handles the bullpen in a reasonable fashion. Even though many won’t be happy at the time due to the above.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 8, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
remember that one time he put out his arms for the fat guy?
that was awesome.
Logic dead and gone
Its ghost haunts all our slumbers
Where triples have died
or remember that one time
he labeled his arms left and right so he would know which was which?
that was awesome.
Logic dead and gone
Its ghost haunts all our slumbers
Where triples have died
this has nothing to do with
bullpen usage, trey hillman, or small sample sizes, but joe poz has an interview with michael schur.(from FJM)
brian anderson would've caught that...
Boo hoo
No shortage of gms/mgrs who are convinced “good stuff” will win out. Farnsworth has made a nice living taking advantage. He’s one of the old ones.
For an example of new, see last night’s giveaway by Morrow the Mariner.
by EddyStanky'sGhost on Apr 8, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions
How serious are the Sox about keeping Josh Field’s defense on point? Well, obviously Camp Cora has a travel plan outside Miami, because bench coach Joey Cora has Josh Fields down on the field right now – more than three hours before first pitch – hitting groundball after groundball to him.
Not only is Fields working on fielding, but also his throws to both second and first.
It never stops for Fields, and it shouldn’t.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/whitesox/2009/04/fields_on_the_field_as_camp_co.html
Nice. I'm still stoked on his throw home yesterday. Can't wait to see moar.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 8, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
That is horrifying.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 8, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm gonna have a nightmare now.
dammit.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 8, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
sorry
seemed like a good idea at the time…
Liz?
Colon "toes" nothing. That implies a nimbleness akin to a Nureyev. I beleive he "platypussed" the shit out of that mound.
-winningugly
?
?
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 8, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
big fat girl shown on jumbo tv last year?
Colon "toes" nothing. That implies a nimbleness akin to a Nureyev. I beleive he "platypussed" the shit out of that mound.
-winningugly
Gee thanks. My question is, "why did you just post that there?"
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 8, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
fat guy?
general poke at fatness?
Colon "toes" nothing. That implies a nimbleness akin to a Nureyev. I beleive he "platypussed" the shit out of that mound.
-winningugly
nevermind
Colon "toes" nothing. That implies a nimbleness akin to a Nureyev. I beleive he "platypussed" the shit out of that mound.
-winningugly
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by The Cheat on Apr 8, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
ohhhh...
Colon "toes" nothing. That implies a nimbleness akin to a Nureyev. I beleive he "platypussed" the shit out of that mound.
-winningugly
And the post where that's from is Pure Win
Not that you spend your spare time
On a website whose tag is Celebrity, Sex, Fashion for Women
by Off the bus running on Apr 8, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh my crap.
/sobs in the fetal position
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 8, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
oops posted in old thread
Tigers are plain nuts to be rushing Porcello in his start tomorrow. Not like they haven’t fucked up any other pitchers…….
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
Yep thats a good reason.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
DEAR ABBY: I am a divorced father of two who has worked hard at staying part of my children’s lives, contributing financial and emotional support through college. I have since remarried and have a good relationship with both of my daughters, who are now on their own, working and leading normal, healthy and productive lives.
My 25-year-old daughter, “homesickalien,” has recently become engaged. Despite my giving her a “heads up” about wanting a courtesy call from her fiance, “The Cheat,” at some point, I got nothing. Apparently, she told him it wasn’t necessary. So much for who will wear the pants in their family.
Without being a jerk, I mentioned something to The Cheat — half in jest — when they called to give me their good news. Knowing that I may have been slightly offended, I can’t believe he didn’t call me a few days later with an explanation or an apology. When I later mentioned to homesickalien that I was disappointed, she and her sister insisted that the custom is outdated.
The Cheat is almost 30; he’s no kid. I haven’t found one dad yet who didn’t get “the call” from a daughter’s intended. Do I need to let go of this, or am I justified in speaking further to The Cheat about it? The wedding is getting closer, and I am … DISMAYED IN SUBURBAN CHICAGO.
DEAR DISMAYED: For everyone’s sake, it would be better if you cooled off and stopped the advice gathering. While I agree that the formality of asking for a woman’s hand (or whatever) may be outdated, particularly if a daughter is self-supporting and out on her own, it is still a gesture of respect. It would have been nice if she had held your feelings in higher regard, but perhaps she didn’t feel her fiance would pass muster. In my experience, men who ride bikes a lot and maintain blogs about baseball teams – the second rate team in the city, no less – are usually inadequate.
I don’t know how many dads to whom you have confided this story, but for all concerned, it might be less embarrassing if you stopped and accepted the fact that, as much as you might like to protect your daughter, the gesture was unwelcome. Just put him in a sleeper hold at the next family gathering and don’t let go until he passes out – at least then he’ll know who wears the pants in your family!
by larry on Apr 8, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
I think I speak for all of us when I say I'm glad you're not a Savage Love reader
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I guess I'm just disappointed by the pseudonymns of the questioners
They’re much more creative in Savage’s column
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Yeah. Could've been signed:
“Dad Is Surely Disappointed” and at least readable as “dissed”.
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
"Here's a lucky C-note for our new relationship"
I don’t like this C-note, Cheat. I take that as an insult.
Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.
Hey, I'm not 25.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 8, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
back to KC
they do have a Billionare owner who milks the team for all they are worth. He really doesn’t care if they do well. He only wants to give the illusion that they will do well to get more tix sales, thus the “rebuilding” with almost no good prospects, and moderate signings of players like Farnsworth.
It all starts from the top.
Colon "toes" nothing. That implies a nimbleness akin to a Nureyev. I beleive he "platypussed" the shit out of that mound.
-winningugly
whatevs, the NYTs picked them to win the Central
I’ll take the old gray lady over the peanut gallery on some cow town blog.
you are so mean to the commenters here
luckily I never comment on baseball so I don’t fee slighted in the least.
Wow anyone wayching the atl/phi game
3 str8 bases loaded walks
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by which team?
Colon "toes" nothing. That implies a nimbleness akin to a Nureyev. I beleive he "platypussed" the shit out of that mound.
-winningugly
The National League - just say no.
"A dope trailer is no place for a kitty." - Bubbles (Trailer Park Boys)
Atl doing the walking
single 10-9 now
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
with no extra base hits?
Bullpen -— Fail
Tie ball game
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
Javy's pitching no 2 for Atlanta
those poor, poor fans
"I’ll take the old gray lady over the peanut gallery on some cow town blog."
MadVillian
i'm just unsure
if he meant he’s throwing like no. 2 or he’s atlanta’s no. 2 starter. (which he isn’t.)
brian anderson would've caught that...
chris getz is like a predator.
Manager Ozzie Guillen defended leadoff batter Dewayne Wise after Wise struck out three times and fouled two bunts.
“Right now I’m still behind him,” Guillen said.
Guillen was just as supportive of ace Mark Buehrle, who lasted only five innings Tuesday.
“He’s coming around,” Guillen said. “He was trying to throw like he’s Randy Johnson and forgot who he was.”
he's supportive of buehrle?
fuck that. buehrle almost lost the game. he should be demoted to the bullpen if not dfa’d immediately.
brian anderson would've caught that...
If not sooner.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 8, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Royals Loose season already...
or at least thats what majority of the fans calling in to the radio down here in kc sound like…
badabababa im lovin it
by Grinder Rule #42 on Apr 8, 2009 5:19 PM CDT reply actions
Headed out to game
go Sox
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
thanks for the heads up.
be sure to bring home some milk or else the kids won’t be able to have breakfast tomorrow.
really?
its done nothing but suck in the past, to the point I didnt buy in to it all this year.
Logic dead and gone
Its ghost haunts all our slumbers
Where triples have died
it's a lot better this year. Not perfect by any means, but way, way better
They dumped silverlight and went to Flash (thank god). Also, the two times I had to call their support team I was impressed.
Compared to last year where they had what seemed like high school dropouts reading scripts, I’ve been impressed.
It's been a few years since I used it
The quality is fantastic on my connection and the picture in picture stuff is pretty cool, too.
White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.
I didn't have any problems
Even works in Chrome, which surprised me. It’s my only white sox viewing option, so it better work.
White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.
Fuck you. But I also am very much enjoying the quality. Big, big difference.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 8, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
dick
as far as colin’s statement, i’ve yet to have any issues. one intel, one ppc.
i’m so glad of the switch, now i don’t have to get hacktastic to get it going well on the ppc machine.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
nice self-promotion
" Cheat I would like to become a managing editor. Email me what I need to do."-by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 1:46 PM PDT
" You've got step one down. Sucking a lot of dick."- by The Cheat on Apr 2, 2009 1:58 PM PDT
normally i don't post those until after the game has started.
it’s less self-promotion and more like the kid with brain damage keeping his limbs intact after an encounter with some left handed scissors.
THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY
c'mon man
you know i was just fuckin with ya
" Cheat I would like to become a managing editor. Email me what I need to do."-by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 1:46 PM PDT
" You've got step one down. Sucking a lot of dick."- by The Cheat on Apr 2, 2009 1:58 PM PDT
I can't be arsed reading all the posts so someone has probably said this already about this Farnsworth thing
in my view it was all Quentins fault, the bat against Farnsworth was hopeless, trying to twat every ball into the middle of next week. But then the Royals thought, if it’s that easy to get him out, we’ll leave him in. These decisions are highly fluid at game time, and we are not all as clever as some, so in my view Quentin with his reputation and his awful at bat led to Farnsworth pitching at Thome.
I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.
so Q! did bad on purpose?
" Cheat I would like to become a managing editor. Email me what I need to do."-by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 1:46 PM PDT
" You've got step one down. Sucking a lot of dick."- by The Cheat on Apr 2, 2009 1:58 PM PDT
not on purpose
but he would have fouled a few off, taken a walk, had a solid ground out, then i think Farnswoth would have been out. It’s easy for me to sat that Quentins at bat was a pile of shit, but their manager is saying ‘look my new setup man just blew away him, and he’s good’, that’s why he stayed in.
Quentin helped us even when he was shit, that’s my take on it!
I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.
phil rogers making sense?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-08-rogers-white-sox-chicago-apr08,0,6110080.column
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
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