Floyd Fans 9, Loses Pitcher's Duel to Greinke
I was expecting a pitching duel Wednesday night, and that's just what we got.
Zack Greinke, who has the one of the most easily misspelled names in baseball, has been a popular pre-season Cy Young pick thanks to a strong finish to a year that saw him reestablish himself as a more than capable major league starter following what can only be described as a mental breakdown. And Gavin Floyd, well you know how I feel about Floyd, plus Floyd is coming off a spring where he was arguably the Sox most impressive pitcher from day 1. So I expected the two newly-extended pitchers to go out there and justify their new contracts, at least for one game, with some fine pitching on a cool Chicago night.
Greinke and Floyd did not disappoint. Floyd turned in a performance as impressive as any of his early-season outings last year. Unfortunately for us, and the White Sox, he wasn't the most impressive pitcher on the US Cellular Field mound tonight.
Greinke was every bit as dazzling a hurler as Joe Posnanski recently described in this lovingly crafted piece. He walked one more batter than Floyd, and didn't fan as many, but he left no doubt as to who was the better pitcher on this night. Those three walks were a result of making sure he missed out of the zone. What Greike did better than Floyd on this evening was make sure his mistakes wouldn't be the type of mistakes that would hurt him.
Example: Mike Aviles killed the Sox last year to the tune of a .359/.388/.531 batting line. He hit everything White Sox pitchers threw at him; sliders in the dirt, fastballs off the plate, and every once in a while he'd hit one that was thrown over the plate. Point is, the Sox had no clue how to get the guy out. But after two games, it appears like they at least have a plan this season.
Both Mark Buehrle and Gavin Floyd tried to elevate fastballs out of the zone to get Aviles to chase the ball. Buehrle had some success with that approach, making Aviles look foolish in the process, but Floyd couldn't get the ball up enough. In fact, the only time Floyd got hit hard Wednesday was when he got his fastball up; twice to Alives, once to Coco Crisp immediately following Aviles, and again on Mark Teahen's RBI single. Floyd got burned for each time he failed to execute his plan.
Greinke didn't. He left a number of fastballs right over the heart of the plate; Jim Thome and Carlos Quentin each got one served up on a tee in their final at-bat against Greinke, but neither could do anything with them. Greinke's plan, which seemed to include throwing up-and-in on righthanders, specifically Quentin, when ahead in the count to open up the outside corner for the slider, was simply executed better than Floyd's.
I don't know if Greinke intended to hit Quentin, but he was clearly pitching inside with a purpose. And the White Sox aren't likely to forget with another 16 (17?) games left with the Royals on the schedule.
Dewayne Wise Deathwatch
Because the Sox have only produced one run this season that wasn't via the HR. They must need a new leadoff man...
Dewayne Wise went 0-4 with another strikeout and a pop-up bunt. He walked back to the dugout to an increasing roar of boos after each one of his at-bats. At least he made all the plays you expect a major league center fielder to make.
Josh Fields and Chris Getz, meanwhile, continued to look like they belong even if they didn't fill up the box score with hits. Fields drew a walk after falling behind 0-2, and made a nice stop and a better throw from his knees to keep Floyd away from a big inning; while Getz smashed an 8th inning Juan Cruz fastball, but it was hit directly at douchenozzle.
Silver lining
You aren't going to win many games with only 3 hits, all singles, but the Sox pitching staff, specifically the bullpen, is attempting to give them the a chance. After Clayton Richard, Octavio Dotel and Bobby Jenks combined for 4 innings of shutout relief yesterday, Matt Thornton and Scott Linebrink answered the call tonight with 4 strikeouts and nary a baserunner in their two innings of work.
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Hey, I was working the "Sox 1 non-HR run implies new leadoff hitter" thing in the last thread!
And, while that was facetious, it is ironically(?) true that the Sox should have a different leadoff hitter. But it’s Wise’s career OBP that implies that rather than anything that’s happened the last 2 days.
I'd like to think that the boos are not because Wise has sucked in his first two games as a leadoff hitter
but because Wise has sucked in his first two games as a leadoff hitter when it was painfully obvious that he was ill-equipped to do the job before the season started…
Also, I wasn’t in the threads tonight. One good thing about a predictable pitcher’s duel is that I can start writing the recap in the 4th inning and still catch the rerun of Mythbusters
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That's exactly how I've been explaning it
Kinda like the boos to Mackowiak in ‘06. It wasn’t his fault he was shoved into a bad situation for him—he was at least a serviceable bench player who never should have been starting anywhere, let alone centerfield. I never disliked Mackowiak, I just hated the fact that he kept getting trot out there in CF when his defense was absolutely brutal. Not his fault Ozzie used him in that way—and the same goes for Wise. It’s not his fault that Ozzie’s putting him in a position to fail, so when he looks awful at the plate like he has the first two games, I really hope people aren’t booing him—I actually have less of a problem with Wise as a fourth or fifth outfielder than I probably should—I just hope they’re booing the terrible situation he’s been thrust into.
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by UribeAuction on Apr 8, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
It surprises me that the crowd in general knows enough to boo him already.
Alexei gets love (though he doesn’t have the bunt failures), so its not just ‘lets boo the hitless guy’, its like a real understanding that he doesn’t belong.
I suppose a cold game crowd is smarter than the average bear, but still.
Yeah, I actually think did it more than anything else
The failure to get bunts down just infuriates people.
Probably because they think “Hey, I could get a bunt down”
by hitlesswonder on Apr 9, 2009 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I was advocating for not booing until I saw that bunt popup ...
And it wasn’t that cold in the stadium, at least I didn’t think so. But damn was it quiet.
same here
i’m surprised the crowd knows enough to boo him
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Go get 'em tommorow
is the lesson here.
and dwise continues to hang himself. Good job Floyd and pen.
I guess if Gordon Beckham were to go nuts in AA...........then.it's not completely
crazy to think that if the Sox situation in CF is still iffy by June 1 that Beckham gets called up to play SS and Alexei to CF?
how many players have made the league by July 1 the year following their draft?
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where were you all offseason?
Beckham is ready now. They simply don’t want to call attention to him by having him shatter records this early in the season.
Anyway, Ryan Zimmerman turned out pretty good. And if that isn’t enough evidence, I don’t know what is.
by Daniel Berlyn on Apr 9, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions
And top 10 picks
no. a mime is when you don't talk, not when no one talks to you.
by MarketMaker on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM CDT
so what?
we’re not talking about other players
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
where do you base your opinion?
btw, for anyone wondering:
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The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
on facts.
if you think beckham is a bob feller or something, okay i guess. i see no basic for that opinion, either. one of the main tenets of projections are comparables. i see plenty of players who are comparable to beckham and quite a few who are better than him. it’s easy to compare him to those players.
what facts? pecota, chone and zips projections?
no I don’t think he’s bob feller
he may be better, he may be worse
I just don’t know his talent and I’m not afraid to say it
I trust the Sox coaches
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
talent?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
take whatever you want
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
I see colin
I read your post wrongly last night!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
I personally would love that move. But what would I know? See a nice future as:
RF Viciedo
CF Alexi
LF Q!
3B Fields
SS Beckham
2B Getz
1B Konerko/Allen
C Pierzynski/Flowers
DH Konerko/Dye
dye isn't a part of that future
" Cheat I would like to become a managing editor. Email me what I need to do."-by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 1:46 PM PDT
" You've got step one down. Sucking a lot of dick."- by The Cheat on Apr 2, 2009 1:58 PM PDT
how do you know?
http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 9, 2009 7:13 AM CDT up reply actions
do you really think they'll re-sign him this off-season?
" Cheat I would like to become a managing editor. Email me what I need to do."-by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 1:46 PM PDT
" You've got step one down. Sucking a lot of dick."- by The Cheat on Apr 2, 2009 1:58 PM PDT
how much longer are they stuck with thome?
he could be a better option at dh… it seems like he is the only guy on the team that ever hits.
http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 9, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
i agree though, they have to break up the cholesterol triplets.
http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 9, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I know we have all theorized about Alexei in CF, but was there any mention this off-season or ST of him actually getting some practice there? All I recall, was the focus on him returning to his "natural position," which
leads me to believe that even if Beckham does get called up to save us all, throwing Che in CF may not be so smooth.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 9, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
what happens if beckham turns out a better SS than alexei?
who do you shift elsewhere? I assume they shift Alexei
but we don’t know if gordon will stay at SS…
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Right...makes sense that he'd be moved....we're just talking about putting Che in CF- possibly as soon as this season - and I'm wondering if there was any report of him working on that position in the off-season.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 9, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
oh, you talk about this season
I see, you’re right, I don’t remember anything from this offseason
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
I'm glad the bullpen is looking sharp
How has Quentin been looking at the plate so far? Is he just pressing because of early-season adrenaline, or does anyone have concerns after 2 games?
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
Q is off
as I was expecting. I was surprised at how confident most of you were RE:Q! in his community projection. I think he played a little over his head last year, and now he’s coming back off a wrist injury, which is known to sap power for up to a year. He’s gonna have a rough first half
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I hope it can become sig material
And not the precursor for a rough season.
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 8, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I wrote a list FanShot of 5 White Sox predictions...
I wanted to post but I forgot about the games in AZ, so I hid it….
I’ll bring it back from the dead at some point. The Q! thing was one, which, if you look at my projection you’d realize is something I’ve had for quite a while.
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i don't think calling for a tough year for q! is stepping too far onto the ledge.
i know it’s blasphemy, but the table is set for a somewhat disappointing year for our hero.
Cashing checks and having sex.
Et tu, Brute?
:p
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i hate that i said it, too, but...
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Apr 10, 2009 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Its the pressure of not signing the contract offer
Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"
i've expressed pessimism repeatedly, but when it came down to it
i couldn’t pull the trigger. BP more or less sides with you, giving him a yellow and the follwing comment:
I was a little surprised to see Quentin stay below the red line given his history of injuries throughout his young career, but a traumatic injury like a broken wrist is unlikely to recur unless he’s very unlucky, so he stays yellow for now. The wrist may impact his power and bat control early on, so a slow start wouldn’t be a shock. Quentin’s MVP run last year proved that he can deliver on the talent that made him a highly touted prospect in Arizona, and now he just has to prove that he can stay healthy. He’s actually responded to surgeries very well in the past (coming back strong from Tommy John surgery, a labrum and rotator cuff operation before last year, and now the wrist), but the fact remains that those are some serious issues for a player that’s just 26.
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Yeah, I think I underestimated the wrist injury
But, it also looked like he was really amped up yesterday and was taking some out of control cuts at the plate. Even if his power is down, if he can just get on base he’ll be useful.
In other player observation news, I actually watched Fields pretty closely tonight and saw the “moving the hands back before swinging” thing that people have mentioned. So I’m assuming that his swing is unchanged which is probably not good from a fastball-hitting perspective.
by hitlesswonder on Apr 8, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
that could be an indication he feels his power is down.
wrt
“But, it also looked like he was really amped up yesterday and was taking some out of control cuts at the plate.”
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it could also be hot-headedness
Q was fired up, especially following the buzzinger. He’s also probably trying to make up for not being there in Sept/Oct. He’s also been pulling off the ball, it appears, chasing sliders he didn’t chase last year(though Meche and Greinke can do that to a lot of guys). Davies is no pie thrower, but hopefully his lack of command allows Q to zone in better.
by Daniel Berlyn on Apr 9, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I only saw Quentin's last at-bat
but his flyout to deep center looked pretty good. IIRC it was a fastball barely higher than the ankles so hitting it that deep to straight center was rather impressive.
I’ve been pretty hush on projections and predicting how certain Sox players will do but I’m with Cheat re: a slow first half for Quentin, mainly due to regaining confidence/strength in that hand/wrist and some regression. I think we’ll know Q is back when he’s able to take a pitch on the outer half and (consistently) drive it out the other way.
I also think part of his early-season struggles — and I’ll point out right now that I don’t mean that so harshly, it’s been two freakin’ games — is that he’s a bit ‘over-anxious’. I’m not one to try and project what a hitter is trying to do at the plate but when I think about Quentin at the plate, I think of a ‘controlled fury’. His at-bat against Farnsworth was the exact opposite. It looked like he wanted to turn around that fastball all the way to the fundamentals deck. He was really swinging out of his shoes there, seemingly showing the exact opposite of ‘restraint’.
his first PA was ungood
he got drilled in the second, took a solid walk in the PA Cheat mentioned having fouled back the grooved fastball, and flew out to Crisp 10-20 feet in front of the track. i thought he showed the typical Q adjustments, looking better as the game went on. Cheat mentioned in the comments that his wrist could have something to do with it falling short, as well as the cold weather.
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Great post
Great analysis on the Floyd-Greinke duel.
ozzie on wise
“To be honest with you, I don’t like a couple of his (last) at-bats,” Guillen said. “I don’t think he wants to strike out. I want him to be aggressive. There are a lot of guys in the big leagues who struggle right now. But I can see he’s trying to feel for the ball, trying to make contact. A strikeout is not the best way to approach as a hitter, but a ground ball is an out, too.”
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Octavio Dotel throws one perfect inning of three punches and achieves victory
Home run producer with three runs in the bottom of the eighth episode of Jim Thome and joined the excellent performance of reliever Clayton Richard, Octavio Dotel and Bobby Jenks, all the White Sox on Tuesday managed to come back to defeat the Kansas City 2 by Royal 4 board. In the opening match of the season for both squads and was suspended by inclement weather. In the opening match of the season for both squads and was suspended by inclement weather.
Viro Thomas concluded the scoring in the eighth inning with a superb run, when the White Sox were in shock 1-2 below, but thanks to effective relief of the show that stopped their opponents, Richard, who threw two innings of perfect a punch; Dotel (1-0), which was impeccable in the face three batters and retired the punch through the proof of the triumph, and Jenks (1) joined the rescue after launching one of the ninth and hit a punch . Viro Thomas concluded the scoring in the eighth inning with a superb run, when the White Sox 1-2 below were in shock, but thanks to effective relief of the show that stopped their opponents, Richard, who threw two perfect innings of a punch; Dotel (1-0), which was impeccable in the face three Batters and retired the punch through the proof of the triumph, and Jenks (1) joined the rescue after launching one of the ninth and hit a punch.
Thomas 4-3, scored two and three produced to be unquestionably the hero of the game, the southpaw started the same as Mark Buehrle, who left without a decision in five entries in two runs, six incogibles, including a batazo four corners, three and three bases on balls punches. Thomas 4-3, scored two and three to be produced unquestionably the hero of The Game, the Southpaw started the same as Mark Buehrle, who left without a decision in five entries in two runs, six incogibles, including a batazo four corners, three and three bases on balls punches.
For White Sox, Dominican Octavio Dotel (1-0) won a victory in an excellent chapter. For White Sox, Dominican Octavio Dotel (1-0) won a victory in an excellent chapter.
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The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
My big take away from the first 2 games
is all about the bullpen. Its been fabulous and hopefully a great sign moving forward.
An above avg to great bullpen might well win the division for the Sox regardless of the C & C factory.
Good job for Floyd. Greinke just better. Nice recap.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
PPB, did you boo Wise?
There was a slight amount of debate as to the justice of that move. (I booed, of course. Just as you said you would.)
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Naw not yesterday
I felt bad for the guy.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
In all seriousness
I did boo yesterday- more out of fun. Listening to the radio actually made me change my mind for once. What was I hoping to accomplish by booing? Do I want him to feel worse or try harder producing a worst result (I know some think that is ultimately good :-))
No, ultimately I want my team to win and if they insist on putting him at the top of the lineup, I’ll cuss to myself and give him a pat on the back for now.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
Capital "B" on the "PPB".
Easing up on paid professionals. A kinder, gentler Sox fan? Oh, my.
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i'd agree with that sentiment if we weren't talking about a below average journeyman outfielder.
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by MarketMaker on Apr 10, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions
I was sitting sec. 116, row AA
Booed the HELL out of Wise. He is a piece of shit.
my president is white.
I was yelling at people not to boo ... doesn't help any
Ozzie is not an idiot (well not always), he will yank Wise out of there when the time is right
Correct me if I'm wrong
Wasn’t the bullpen fabulous for the first couple weeks in 07 before it blew up?
The bullpen has looked really good the last couple games but I want to see at least a couple months of good performance before we start giving out awards.
White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.
Well you can say that about everything in baseball.
I felt the bullpen would be a major strength coming into the season (like Top 5 good). Im not handing out awards I just said hopefully it was a good sign moving forward. Would you rather I say they sucked?
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by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
Bullpens are serious business
It wasn’t an attack – just mentioning that I thought the bullpen looked really good early on in 07, too, and since then I’ve tended to be more cautious.
White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.
No I get that
and didn’t take it as one. My caution for this bullpen deals pretty much with health. Yeah its a long season and anything can happen, but with their multiple strikeout pitchers and a decent Richard they can do a lot of damage.
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by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
Correct me if I am wrong but
SHUT THE HELL UP! :)
my president is white.
If this pitching is any indication of how the season will go (bullpen and starters), if/when our bats wake up, we will dominate.
The bullpen is making me all warm and tingly inside so far.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
Hmmm. I'll let you know when I'm sober.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 9, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions
buehrle worried me
although i think of him as the #2, the way he struggled with his control makes me nervous. i know he only gave up the 2 runs, but it was far from a good performance.
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
yeah...not good
there was a quote from him in the trib this morning that made it sound like his arm is hurting.
I hear ya. I am worried about his health, but I don't think Tuesday's outing was anything really irregular for him. Got himself into some messes, and worked his way out (with some defensive help).
Unless his shaky control is related to a larger problem/injury, I think he’ll be our usual workhorse this season. I’m not going to start worrying until he has consecutive outings that look like Tuesday’s.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 9, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
they just said on the score
getz is leading off today. wise batting 8th.
brian anderson would've caught that...
Just Curious
For someone like him who lives in Va and has only seen the Sox twice in his life – how does he become a White Sox fan? Is there anyone with a similar story? I’ve always wondered about that.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
I wonder that too when I meet people out here who are Yankees/Sux fans...most of them have never been east of the Continental Divide, so I don't understand how that loyalty forms. I'm interested in a response as well....
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 9, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I lived in Lithuania all my life and had never seen sox play
Eventually I made it into States and Chicago, and damn it felt so good attending my first game and seeing them play live. I think I had been following the team for 2-3 years before that game.
How did I become a sox fan to begin with? When I was 15-16, my cousin sent me a sox sweatshirt as a present, and thus a sox fan was born :) that simple. Of course I wasn’t that hardcore about the team or anything, not at first. But once I moved to Chicago just started going to games and watching them closely, learned more about the team, etc etc etc
I guess the magic number is 2 games
Last year and this year.
by Daniel Berlyn on Apr 9, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
If he gets booed in the 8 hole, there's something seriously fucked about Sox fans.
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when asking in an on-line forum innocently about an idea or two.
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