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Brushing Up On Kyle Davies

Or: CONTROL! CONTROL! YOU MUST LEARN CONTROL!

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Davies, fortunately, is not nearly as good as Meche or Greinke.  Exhibit A, PECOTA's projected triple slash splits:

LHB: .275/.373/.453

RHB: .280/.358/.437

PECOTA thinks he'll turn the average lefty into a younger Brian Roberts and the average righty into Randy Winn this year. If he pitches mostly as he did last year, it won't be far off, as his H/9 and BB/9 sucked.  His biggest issue is throwing strikes, even with his fastball to right handed batters.  If this is the case, it's highly likely that he's got inconsistent mechanics.  If that proves fixable, I do think Davies probably has major league level stuff.  This is why Kansas City picked him up.  He's still just 25 and pitchers tend to develop better control as they age.

His fastball comes in at 92-93 and has a relatively large amount of rise to run.  From what I've seen the in the past picking through pfx reports, this generally translates to more fly balls and whiffs.  This is not the case for Davies, as he has a solid groundball to flyball ratio, and the relatively low ISO to both sides of the plate attests to this as well.  It isn't a pitch that he adds and subtracts from and isn't able to reach for a little extra when ahead in the count.  Of course, there is a particularly small sample size to work with in his case.

As for offspeed, he goes three deep to right handed batters: slider, change and curve, with no clear preference.  The change actually gets a good number of whiffs to righties, but I can't imagine that a guy with bad control will be able to keep one from fading into the wheelhouse every so often.  The ISO to each side of the plate suggests as much, though because he throws a number of offspeed pitches, there isn't a great sample.  His slider, as is apparently the case for all Royals pitchers, is a legitimate weapon, with a whiff rate inching toward 17%.

To lefties, he abandons the slider and achieves some success with the change and curve.  Both, however, carry serious risk.  While he has significantly better control with his change than any pitch in his arsenal, he gave up nearly .400 ISO when it was put in play.  He has basically no control over the curve (96% of the time a lefty batter took the pitch it was a ball, and not much better against RHB), though it is hard to put in play when swung on.

The approach here is clear: wait for him to get behind and sit on the fastball.  If he makes a mistake with something else, pounce.  At this point, we know which hitters will actually do this.  Alexei may have success anyway, because he's Alexei.  AJ may struggle, and Wise probably will too.  Danks is a far superior pitcher.  The Sox have a very good chance to pick up a win and get the bats going for the weekend series with the Twins.

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what? You’re such a tease. On other matters, Anaheim tough? Yikes:

Man dies after fight at Angel Stadium, police investigating

By Associated Press
9:08 PM CDT, April 8, 2009

ANAHEIM, Calif. (AP) — A man involved in a fight at Angel Stadium on opening day has died.

Police said Brian Powers, 27, of Buena Park, Calif., died Wednesday at a hospital. No arrests have been made.

Angels spokesman Tim Mead said the fight occurred Monday night shortly after the game between the Los Angeles Angels and Oakland Athletics. Witnesses told police the man was fighting with someone when a third person came from behind and punched the victim in the head. The man fell and hit his head on a concrete step near a stairwell.

Police are unsure what led to the fight and who started it.

by palehose67 on Apr 9, 2009 10:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

holy fuck.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 9, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

22 years old. How sad.

by palehose67 on Apr 9, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

unbefuckinglievable. awful.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 9, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know right

who wouldve thought TMZ would ever actually break a newsworthy story.
seriously though, if this turns out to be true, that is awful.

Logic dead and gone
Its ghost haunts all our slumbers
Where triples have died

by e-gus on Apr 9, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's terrible

" Cheat I would like to become a managing editor. Email me what I need to do."-by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 1:46 PM PDT

" You've got step one down. Sucking a lot of dick."- by The Cheat on Apr 2, 2009 1:58 PM PDT

by U-God on Apr 9, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just saw that too

crazy

Logic dead and gone
Its ghost haunts all our slumbers
Where triples have died

by e-gus on Apr 9, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn -- that's terrible

tragedy always tends to put things into perspective, makes everything else petty in comparison. That’s so sad and distressing…

by CWSKeith on Apr 9, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awful. He pitched a good game last night as well.

I should have checked the comments before posting a fanshot, oops.

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 9, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brutal.

That happens way, way too often. His family must be in absolute shock.

Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.

by winningugly on Apr 9, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

white sox reaction
The White Sox’s clubhouse was understandably saddened to learn of the death of Los Angeles Angels pitcher Nick Adenhart, who was killed in an auto accident in Fullerton, Calif., after Wednesday night’s game with Oakland.

Some players were glued to the television sets in the clubhouse, while some looked at the photographs of the damaged vehicles on the website TMZ.com.

Adenhart, 21, won his only major league decision against the Sox, beating Mark Buehrle 10-7 on May 12, 2008. Adenhart allowed four runs on five hits in 5 2/3 innings but wasn’t afraid to challenge the Sox’s hitters.

“I feel for more for the family and the organization,” Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said. “Unfortunately, this kid is dead. I think they’re going to go through tough times, especially when you’re in your 20s. You’re supposed to die some day, but I don’t think you should die that way and that young.”

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/04/adenhart-remembered-by-white-sox.html

by larry on Apr 9, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

angels press release

clears up some prior erroneous info and time of death.

Adenhart, 22, was a passenger in a silver Mitsubishi along with three others. Fullerton Police reported the Mitsubishi proceeded through an intersection, when a van ran a red light and broadsided the vehicle. A female driver and male passenger were in the Mitsubishi were dead when police and fire department personnel arrived. Adenhart died as the result of his injuries at UCI Medical Center earlier this morning. No other members of the Angels organization were involved.

http://losangeles.angels.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20090409&content_id=4187606&vkey=pr_ana&fext=.jsp&c_id=ana

by larry on Apr 9, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ugh.

latimes.com’s coverage has the intersection where it happened. i’d hope alcohol wasn’t involved, but it’s hard to think it wasn’t. commonwealth ave. around harbor/lemon is a big bar district. what makes it extra shitty is they were probably headed towards the 91, on their way home.

fucksticks.

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 9, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll do whatever that dog says. He has powers.

by FAQ on Apr 9, 2009 10:10 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

last year

team OPS
vs. lefties .790
vs. right .776

surprised me it was so close. my “gut” tells me we are too righ-handed.

by Hatchetm on Apr 9, 2009 10:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

certainly quicker than i expected - ozzie is smarter than i thought.

Chris Getz is taking over for Dewayne Wise at the leadoff spot for the White Sox in Thursday’s game against Kansas City.

Here’s the White Sox’s lineup:

Getz 2b

Pierzynski c

Quentin lf

Thome dh

Dye rf

Konerko 1b

Ramirez ss

Wise cf

Fields 3b

Danks p

Wise was 0-for-8 with four strikeouts in his first two games at the leadoff spot. Getz batted leadoff during part of his career at the University of Michigan.

Another interesting change in A.J. Pierzynski at the second spot, as Alexei Ramirez moves to seventh and Wise to eighth.

While being corralled by reporters, White Sox rookie Chris Getz sees no drastic change in his approach to moving from second to the leadoff spot.

“If I’m batting first, second, third … and the third baseman is playing back, I’m going to lay down a bunt,” Getz said.

Getz has batted first dating back to his days at the University of Michigan, where coach Rich Maloney said last month that his former star could be a productive leadoff batter.

“(This switch) is not going to change anything I’ve done,” Getz said.

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/

by larry on Apr 9, 2009 10:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Even my own fellow Wolverines are against me.

"If I’m batting first, second, third … and the third baseman is playing back, I’m going to lay down a bunt," Getz said.

Must … kill … Tdogg …

;)

by The Actual El Guapo on Apr 9, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the sox sure do have a way of making these things work out, even when it seems like they are going against all common sense

other than 2007, in what was probably just a “fuck it” year that none of us knew about, I can’t really complain with too many roster moves and/or lineup construction from kw and ozzie.

by madvillian on Apr 9, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ozzie learned a lot in '07

To me, he’s a much different manager since then. His PodStad experiment blew up in his face, he certainly learned his lesson about putting shite at the top of the order.

Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 9, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, colintj.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 9, 2009 10:41 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Getz leading off today!

Ozzie was just on espn1000.

Logic dead and gone
Its ghost haunts all our slumbers
Where triples have died

by e-gus on Apr 9, 2009 11:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what did he say?

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Apr 9, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

im an idiot

and 45 minutes late

Logic dead and gone
Its ghost haunts all our slumbers
Where triples have died

by e-gus on Apr 9, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ozzie pregame sound on moving Getz up

Here’s Ozzie talking to the media in pregame about moving Wise down to the 8th spot and leading off with Getz
http://tinyurl.com/c9huj2

by drifty2378 on Apr 9, 2009 11:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

thanks

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Apr 9, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like he could back up there in a couple of days

Come on Getz!

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Apr 9, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no problem

if you guys haven’t figured it out I’m Brian Dryfhout from MOUTHPIECESPORTS.com. I’ll be blogging from the Cell for most of the White Sox home games. I’ll try to get you the inside access before traditional media.
Feel free to check out my “Dryfhout’s Dugout” throughout the game. Also comments and questions are more than welcome.
http://tinyurl.com/czqejw

by drifty2378 on Apr 9, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 10, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He had to keep those glasses on, just to make sure he could clearly see what he was punching.

Classy guy. Clearly.

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 9, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dad?

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 9, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Porcello debut in a few for those interested

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Apr 9, 2009 11:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i dont know if this is a repost

but nick aidenhart or whatever his name is died in a car crash this morning. the angels top pitching prospect.

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 9, 2009 11:46 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and #3 starter

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 9, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

People a little sleepy today?

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Apr 9, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

stfu i know how to post

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 9, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's sad is that colintj actually wrote a good piece

and then here we are, shitting all over it.

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 9, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i will be sure and shed some tears for colin's piece

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 9, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you could have just let it be with a link repost

two fucken lines of precious real estate on the page… but no, now it has to turn into the whole discussion and triples and hsa barking at each other. next time i will make sure i scan this bitch viciously

by LT_sox_fan on Apr 9, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it isn't that hard to check for links

" Cheat I would like to become a managing editor. Email me what I need to do."-by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 1:46 PM PDT

" You've got step one down. Sucking a lot of dick."- by The Cheat on Apr 2, 2009 1:58 PM PDT

by U-God on Apr 9, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

none of mine have been cloaked out of sheer disgust.

not sure why you jumped all over me? Not sure what I did wrong?

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 9, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as you may or may not know i post at work most during the day with my browser

sized very small so it’s not as obvious. I wouldn’t want one of my coworkers walking by and see a rotting horse corpse on my monitor. So, I resize the window and I might miss a little miss a lot. I heard this from word of mouth, scrolled down with out noticing that anyone posted on this. Yes the repost was dumb and I am not really sure how it happened but, since I heard it from word of mouth, I honestly did not know how to spell his name. Then you started jumped all over me for my posting etiquette and I got a little pissed. can we kiss and make up now?

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 9, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

*jumping

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 9, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I said nothing of your posting etiquette, nothing about the re-post. Others did, though, yes.

There will be no kissing. I still think you’re the same old jackass, but you hit a nerve today, that’s all.
There was a lot of that going around among others too.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 9, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do not know to what you are referring.

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 10, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And that cinches it ...

This thread and everything associated with it must be destroyed.

by The Actual El Guapo on Apr 9, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that joke ruled

its like oscar wilde is a commenter.

typical south side sox meathead.

by thecip on Apr 9, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha.

typical south side sox meathead.

by thecip on Apr 9, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have been flagged for such grindiness.

Please be consistent.

Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.

by winningugly on Apr 9, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I rec'd your now-pink pun.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 9, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll add one

For Q!s sake man, you’re an editor (referring to Colin). Learn how to tag your posts. It’s not as difficult as recycling your own waste into compost, so I’m sure you can handle it.

by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Im sure you have been saving that one.....

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Apr 9, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

6 months!

typical south side sox meathead.

by thecip on Apr 9, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 9, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Top 10 endings to Colin's last sentence:

10. … be Sonnenstined.
9. … repeatedly strand the bases loaded.
8. … pop up several bunts (foul).
7. … pop up several bunts (fair).
6. … seriously score some chicks (4th outfielder only)
5. … finish no lower than 5th in the division.
4. … finish no lower than 2nd in today’s game.
3. … have a fanbase which is incapable of correctly responding to comments posted on the internet.
2. … sign Orlando Hudson.
1. … have a fanbase which is incapable of determining what has or has not been previously mentioned or discussed within a single internet-based thread consisting of a few dozen comments

(I kid, I love, blah, blah, blah).

by The Actual El Guapo on Apr 9, 2009 1:01 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

#1. Note, not +1. Just #1.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 9, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i do not know what the hell happened there

at some point it said “pick up a win and get the bats going for the weekend series with the Twins” or something like that. i’m going to amend that to the end now.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 9, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the Adenhart thing sickens me

he was the guy we saw throw against the Cubs while we were out in AZ. he looked great. ugh, so fucking horrible.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 9, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

in case there was any doubt

the angels-As game tonight was postponed.

by larry on Apr 9, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

never seen the announcement "PPD - Tragedy" before

but given Adenhart and the fan death, it hasn’t been the best of weeks for the organization.

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 9, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Postponements due to tragedy in the last decade (from the Angels mlb site)

Nick Adenhart’s death A’s vs. Angels April 9, 2008
Minneapolis bridge collapse Royals vs. Twins Aug. 2, 2007
Josh Hancock’s death Cubs vs.Cards April 29, 2007
Darryl Kile’s death Cards vs. Cubs June 22, 2002
9/11 attacks All MLB games Sept. 11-16, 2001

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 9, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow. i seriously don't pay attention

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 9, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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