White Sox Offense Absent in April, Again

by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:30 PM CDT in Recaps Comment 83 comments

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The White Sox offense has scored 5 runs in 3 games this season. The only reason we're not talking about a sweep, or 3 blowouts, is that Sox pitching has allowed only 2 run in each of the 3 games.

There comes a point when you have to stop giving credit to opposing pitchers and look in the mirror and say hey, our offense just sucks right now. Kyle Davies, Gil Meche and Zack Greinke pitched well, and we acknowledged that the Royals have a good top of the rotation before the season started. But you simply cannot go an entire series scoring a total of 1 run off the opposing starters.

This Sox offensive struggles are not simply a result of a lack of a leadoff hitter -- though I'm beginning to think that anyone who is penciled into the lineup to leadoff or play center field is destined for an 0-for with a couple of Ks -- The offense has sucked from top to bottom, as is seemingly a White Sox rite of spring. There's got to be a reason we seem to bring up Greg Walker every April, right?

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i'm just gonna have to tip my cap.

by larry on Apr 9, 2009 4:33 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

yeah right, this offense is terrible

thank god we have pitching. FIRE GREG WALKER NOW!

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 9, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I believe the term you're looking for is "DFA".

by The Actual El Guapo on Apr 9, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

*fixed

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 9, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They're talking about extending his contract

Seriously? Why?

I hope I die on the field, I hope when I walk to change the pitcher, I drop dead and that's it."-Ozzie Guillen

by rangerjae on Apr 10, 2009 5:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sixty percent of our series run total

was a result of Trey Hillman being a poor manager. Take that away and you’ve got a bases loaded-no out situation that nets one and a surrendered run that does nothing but prevent a shut out.

by Sox-35th on Apr 9, 2009 4:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

thanks god my minor league preview is going to be up tonight.

at least we can follow birmingham now that the white sox season is mercifully over.

by larry on Apr 9, 2009 4:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Hey it was a good thing it wasn't out there this morning

with the adenhart news and Colin’s Davies entry it would have been lost

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by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

silver linings everywhere.

except charlotte.

by larry on Apr 9, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah that turned out to be a useful piece

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 9, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can't believe the damn Twins won it again this year.

by hitlesswonder on Apr 9, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've liked what I've seen of Alexei at short.

But I don’t like our offensive outlook in general, and am not just saying this because of the last three games. The potentiality of Konerko, Dye, Pierzynski and Thome falling precipitiously, the uncertainty with Getz…etcetc…….we may have to look at moving him to center and bringing in Beckham…..I’m not suggesting today, but I wouldn’t wait much beyond mid-May, depending on where we’re sitting in the standings.

by dantesox on Apr 9, 2009 5:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Is "potentiality" like "Wessonality"? Is this Flo Henderson?

1-2 and a trend is made. I guess no team has ever made the playoffs going 1-2 out of the gate. Or scored more than 2 runs a game after averaging less than that in an opening season series.

Man up. If we see this in May I’ll start jumping up and down. For now, how about a little prespective and patience. Becks will be here shortly to save the day.

Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.

by winningugly on Apr 9, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes, shortly.

iirc, our savior is scheduled to rise from the dead on sunday.

by larry on Apr 9, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ah, death is THE operative subject today for you.

At least you’re not saying our offense is permanently dead.

Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.

by winningugly on Apr 9, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mostly Dead.

by The Actual El Guapo on Apr 9, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs

LOL. I swear to Christ I can't wait until 5/22.

The suspense is killing (heh) me.

Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.

by winningugly on Apr 9, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha

you remember the date? good shit.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 9, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

bill maher?

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 9, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice.

by The Actual El Guapo on Apr 9, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

May? Cut the procrastination crap. I need to know if we suck or not, and I need to know now. Spill it, old man.

I’ll hang up and listen for my answer.

by The Actual El Guapo on Apr 9, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Shit happens.

Considering it’s 3 games out of 162/3, are you serious?
Every game counts, true. But you seem to suggest that the Sox should’ve been firing on all cylinders out of the gate. I agree that the O is frustrating right now, but give it a bigger sample size. There are still signs of encouragement despite the 1-2 start.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 9, 2009 5:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The Sox were the baseball equivalent of a prevent defense away from being shut out in their second consecutive game

a feat that hasn’t happened since before you knew the name Monica Lewinsky…

I think that puts me well within the right to complain about a crappy offensive attack

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by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with you.

Our offense sucks right now. As long as we are not extrapolating a trend after 3 games.

Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.

by winningugly on Apr 9, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They're on pace to score 270 runs this season!!!!

needs more caps

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by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're certainly within your rights to post whatever the he'll you like...

But so what if they had been shutout 2 in a row? Does that mean they suck for the season?
Remember: SSS… You know what that means.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 9, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I didn't do any extrapolating

and if you want to complain about small samplesizing than there should have been complaints raised for my praise for the bullpen yesterday

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by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fair enough. I'll quit for the day.

This day sucked, and let’s leave it at that.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 9, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

For reals

Layoffs and further cost cutting at work today.

I still have a job, which is good, but some good people were let go.

Anything else today would be “piling on”.

BTW, how could I enforce the 10 yard penalty?

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 9, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Senile Senior S-o-b's?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 9, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs

+1

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 9, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah the pitching is lights out!

offense will come around when it warms up outside… ooops sorry to include non-stat variables when analyzing a team.

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 9, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

just watched the Adenhart televised presser on an LA local...

a very sad affair. Boras was blubbering, Sciosia’s already deep baritone was down a couple of octaves. The kid had been drafted out of H.S. and had serious arm surgery before he was even signed. The Angels rolled the dice… Adenhart was not very good last season in his brief cup of joe, nor when he went back to AAA. However, he had done some serious off-season work with coaches, and — having watched the 6 inning he pitched last night — had a FB that hit 95 on the gun.

The asshole that hit tried to run, but those bad ass Anaheim cops got him.

by RoyEgan on Apr 9, 2009 5:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

KS, this touched me in ways you can't imagine...

If Boras’s tears were genuine, thx for posting this.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 9, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hopefully the bad ass Orange Co. judges will finish the job.

Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste. Wait, I'm married to a Jewish woman. Strike that.

by winningugly on Apr 9, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

For real. I'm not a vengeance guy, but justice yes.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Apr 9, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

fullerton cops, but yeah

dude’s fucked, though i doubt he’ll get any capital charges. the only cloud down here is over the sheriff’s office, so justice will be swift and unquestioned.

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 9, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

did i hear that he's already been charged....

… with vehicular manslaughter and that murder is not out of the question? He was driving on a suspended license — which means no license, I assume — and has a DUI history.

by RoyEgan on Apr 9, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well, i would figure you would need premeditation, but i guess extreme recklessness will not help him

you’ve been here longer than me: you think he’ll get capital charges or just life-in-prison charges?

any members of SSS, LLP know any more into the process?

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 9, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

no one is going to face the death penalty for this. and it's quite remote anyone would get life for it, either.

by larry on Apr 9, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, all i've seen have been vehicular manslaughter, dui, and the like

roy brought up the possibility, so i looked at what other non-premeditated charges got bumped up and why. given the attention it’s going to get, was just wondering what the state could go fishing for.

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 9, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he will get 10-15 and probably serve 10.

That is if he behaves himself.

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 10, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

fields to lead-off tomorrow?

“I might lead off Josh Fields,‘’ Guillen said. "Josh Fields is not a typical lead off guy, but he will get on base. He will give you good at bats. We’ve got a couple of options to see how that works.’’

http://blogs.suntimes.com/whitesox/2009/04/plan_c.html

btw, no pierre/matthews or any other fa says kenny

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 9, 2009 6:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Great, put him where he'll see a bunch fastballs. Wonderfull

by hitlesswonder on Apr 9, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He won't get any better with them by NOT seeing them.

my president is white.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Apr 9, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sure, ride the hot bat.

my president is white.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Apr 9, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Sox not scoring many runs doesn't bother me as much as

the fact they had so few opportunities. Its one thing if they are getting people into scoring position and just not executing, but it seemed like for much of this series they had absolutely no chance of scoring.

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Apr 9, 2009 6:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Low OBP team.

It’s a big problem.

by hitlesswonder on Apr 9, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fair amount of pissing runners away on the basepaths as well.

Most noticeably in the win, which is probably why it’s not getting more play.

by The Actual El Guapo on Apr 9, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ozzie in panic mode already?

IIRC, last year we didn’t see a sac bunt till the end of April – I remember commenting on it at the time because it was so un-Ozzieballish. Swish was getting OB at a +.400 clip early in the season and we were scoring a lot of runs playing softball.

Maybe someone can look it up, but I would guess that there’s already been more CS in three games than the entire month of April last year. My guess is Ozzie doesn’t trust this offense and feels he has to push a lot more buttons this year to get something going. There’s only two high OBP guys on the team, Q and Thome, and it really limits what this offense can do.

Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 10, 2009 6:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What good is OBP if you can't score on a single from 2nd base?

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 10, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

didn't matter last year

we had a conga line going around the bases first few months

Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 10, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

nice touch with the picture.

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 11, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How’s Nancy Faust’s ass?

’’It’s great,‘’ the team’s longtime organist said. ‘’My ass has learned a few new tricks.’’

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/quickhits/1515975,CST-SPT-1hit08.article

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 9, 2009 6:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

an longtime organist with an ass that knows tricks

lucky mr. faust.

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 9, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

let's say if ozzie fired walker..

would he hand that job to baines??

by onlysoxfaninboston on Apr 9, 2009 6:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i dunno, that guy sucked at the plate...

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Apr 9, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

who knows...

I was joking about DFA’ing Walker but there does come a point when enough is enough! I think it’s the chilly weather though. This happens every year in april for this white sox core.

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 9, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Relax folks, the Sox are just taking key days off before the huge Crede homecoming

Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 9, 2009 6:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

They so smart.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 9, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Q! is probably going apeshit right now

He will be taking dry swings literally all night

"...and when it comes to baseball, we have two favorite clubs: the Go-Go White Sox...and whoever plays the Cubs!!!"

by 815Sox on Apr 9, 2009 7:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

R.A. Dickey taking the mound tomorrow should help us out a little bit

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart

by Jbasic89 on Apr 9, 2009 9:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Fact: The R.A. stands for Runs Allowed.

by The Actual El Guapo on Apr 9, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

i don't even say R.A. anymore

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by U-God on Apr 9, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

by Sox-35th on Apr 10, 2009 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha!

Rec’d!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 10, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

whats really pissing me off

is seeing people like Thome and JD force singles and then stand at first base for an eternity or get thrown out at second.

With their speed, it’ll take a triple of a hit to move them to second.

"I’ll take the old gray lady over the peanut gallery on some cow town blog."
MadVillian

by blackoutsox on Apr 9, 2009 9:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

swisher

3 for 5, 2 run hr, 5 rbis

by The Scoper on Apr 9, 2009 11:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

How's Sweeney doing?

Fer Chrissakes. Focus on who is here, already. Swish’s trade has been dissected to death, and we know many folks here (I’n not one of them) predict he’s have a big bounce-back year. He’s hitting .667. I think he might cool off.

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 10, 2009 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

no crap, he quit on the sox.

do you guys forget the swings he was taking last sept/oct?

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 10, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He looked like a world-beater the first two weeks of last April, too

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Apr 10, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sweeney

.429/.467/.500

by The Scoper on Apr 10, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Feel better?

Again, KW is an idiot.

I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 10, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's always interesting when circumstances prevent you from watching the game.

i’m not even going to think about perusing the game threads. losing 2 of 3 is disappointing, and i think we watch this offense with guarded optimism, but there aren’t any conclusions to be drawn from this series, right? do we really know anymore than we did coming in? (let alone enough to draw conclusions)

Cheat, have you considered the possible effects of recaps written directly after the game? (that you may not have the measured response that you otherwise might?) Not an attack, btw. Just a question.

let’s wait for the twins to sweep us before we gather the angry villagers with torches.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Apr 10, 2009 12:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs