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The White Sox Need a LOOGY

With Jose Contreras now in Charlotte and lefty Clayton Richard to be inserted into the rotation, Ozzie Guillen will be left with a bullpen that has only a single lefty, Matt Thornton, for him to play match-ups. But with Jose’s demotion and plenty of room on the 40 man roster, it is a near certainty that it will be a lefty who is called up from the farm to give Ozzie the second lefty he pines for.  Let’s take a quick look at the candidates:

Jimmy Gobble: White Sox fans are familiar with the long-time Royal, most notably for his ability to get Paul Konerko out of any slump. Of course, using Gobble against any righty is an unforgivable offense by a manager. Gobble is the epitome of a LOOGY. After he dropped his arm slot in 2007, he became more effective against lefties but righties began to tee off of him. The Knights have been using Gobble almost exclusively for at least one inning in each of his appearances so his 2009 numbers are somewhat alarming at first glance; however, he is more than holding his own against lefties. He's held them to 1 hit and 1 walk in 19 plate appearances and has struck out 9 of them. He's also inducing rather weak contact, as well. The leading candidate.

Randy Williams: He’s been significantly more hittable than Gobble down in AAA. He’s faced 26 lefties and given up 7 hits and 1 walk while striking out 7. While some of this can be attributed to an inflated BABIP, lefties are also making harder contact on his pitches than Gobble's. A distant second.

Wes Whisler: This guy just doesn’t strike enough people out. While his ERA is often very nice – 3.81 last year and 2.12 so far this year – his peripherals scream “not a major leaguer.” He’s averaged about 4.5 K/9 in the upper minors and that simply won’t do. While he does perform better against lefties, he hasn't shut them down like a Gobble can. Also has little experience pitching in relief. No chance.

Aaron Poreda: You can read all about what Poreda has been doing in my weekly minor league updates or in the minor league fanshot that is updated daily. While Poreda is certainly the best pitcher of the bunch - and can be absolutely vicious on lefties - the White Sox are intent on making Poreda a starter and having him work on his secondary offerings. A call-up to the major league bullpen would be diametrically opposed to this goal. No chance.

[edit 1:24 pm: The White Sox make this moot by purchasing Gobble's contract from Charlotte.]

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Good job.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on May 11, 2009 1:11 PM CDT reply actions  

radinsky

that guy looked roided up.

wunsch me.

by Hatchetm on May 11, 2009 1:26 PM CDT reply actions  

I reMarte that remark.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on May 11, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

This is a Boonedoggle.

But what are you doing to do? His Sanders tied.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on May 11, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

His Sanders tied.

ftw.

I like to spell my racial slurs correctly. Otherwise, I may come across as ignorant.

by homesickalien on May 11, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me thinks larry has insider information

me also thinks that this Gobbler isn’t going to be a good idea.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on May 11, 2009 1:49 PM CDT reply actions  

while i could have asked my knights source if gobble was still in rochester

this one is a no brainer. these four are literally the only four lefties who are not currently injured in the white sox upper minors. and only one is arguably a major league pitcher.

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by larry on May 11, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Arguably is so understated.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on May 11, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

if gobble is used exclusively as a LOOGY, he can be effective in that role.

problem is that KC didn’t do that. and ozzie guillen, while he loves matchups, seems to have an odd need to have his lefty specialists face righties at a not infrequent rate (see, e.g., logan, boone). this is stupid.

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by larry on May 11, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, when looking at the numbers you presented above

it is a no brainer that this guy gets his nuts handed to him against RH pitching. Hopefully Ozzie has enough brains to see that.

I am waiting for Gobble mania to take over like with what happened with Shingo. Instead of the gong we’ll hear just a bunch of wild turkeys for 2 minutes blaring out of the loudspeakers.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on May 11, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

RH hitting...jhc!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on May 11, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

we saw ozzie continue to trot logan out against righties for two seasons.

methinks he doesn’t. if the white sox want a pitcher who can get both sides out adequately, they shouldn’t be bringing in gobble. and if they use him in such a manner, they’re setting him up for failure. hawk says it all the time but it’s true: know what your players can’t do. the team has enough guys in the pen to protect gobble from what he does poorly.

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by larry on May 11, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ozzie is noted for his, um, convictions

(some might say stubbornness). I gotta go with the lar-bear on this one.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on May 11, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

alright educate me

boone logan faced lefties 47% of the time. that is an astronomically high rate.

by Hatchetm on May 11, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

look at the percentage a mike myers faced in his loogy heyday.

then reassess what you think astronomical is.

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by larry on May 11, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

47% is astronomical for a pitcher

in general and high even by loogy standards. myers’ career 52% must be the highest of all time.

by Hatchetm on May 11, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

read better.

i said in his heyday. try 2005 or something.

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by larry on May 11, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

when its around 68%?

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on May 11, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

although i do enjoy the .700 swing in OPS

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on May 11, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

and it illustrates a proper usage.

myers got beat around by righties. but he was excellent against lefties. so his team decided to keep him on the roster for that purpose and did not try to get cute with his usage. a team should either decide to do that or decide that a guy who is that much of a specialist isn’t worth it and get someone else to take the roster spot. continually throwing a guy like logan or gobble out there into situations where the odds are stacked against them – and you absolutely know it – is silly. it’s like, say, putting a player like rob mackowiak in centerfield and then whining about how mackowiak sucks there. blame the dope who puts the player in that situation, not the player.

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by larry on May 11, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

How many lefties are generally in any lineup,or are PH's,

in terms of %?

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on May 11, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

your mom.

;)

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on May 11, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jimmy Gobble

wins the job on his name alone.

by palehose67 on May 11, 2009 1:53 PM CDT reply actions  

remember that shot

mcgwire hit off ken vining? that was a good matchup.

by Hatchetm on May 11, 2009 2:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Jimmy Gobble?

You gotta be kidding me!? This guy is terrible. After an apperance or two- you will be wishing we still had Boone Logan!

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on May 11, 2009 2:41 PM CDT reply actions  

I already wish we had Boone Logan.

I was right…nice call! Self High 5!

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on May 11, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Besides Blow Up Dolls,

I can’t think of a better slump buster than Carl Pavano.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on May 11, 2009 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

The White Sox need alot of shit right now

"...and when it comes to baseball, we have two favorite clubs: the Go-Go White Sox...and whoever plays the Cubs!!!"

by 815Sox on May 11, 2009 3:18 PM CDT reply actions  

isn't the last s a little redundant?

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on May 11, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

the "are" implies that the subject must be plural "guys"

RBI – run batted in is still proper grammer, so the RBIs does make some sense.

and now i am done because this is petty and stupid

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on May 11, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sox at Cle: getz4, lilli8, q7, jd9, thome, pk3, aj2, fields5, alexei6.

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by larry on May 11, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions  

lillibridge in the two hole in front of Q....g*dd*mmit!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on May 11, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

who would you rather have in the two spot? lillibridge has hit the ball hard lately but he has nothing to show for it so people like to blame the problems on him. getz has hit one hard ball in the last 4 games and it was a double on thursday. everything else is a flare out to left or ground out to second. start being positive for all of our players. its a long season and we are not in a bad situation right now. thome will come around and so will everyone else.

by kizzomynizzo on May 11, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

lillibridge has hit flyballs 40% of the time.

he is not a power hitter. he needs to stop that. now.

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by larry on May 11, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

And that is when he is not

striking out 25% of the time . . . talk about no chance.

This is a hybrid. This is a cross, ah, of Bluegrass, Kentucky Bluegrass, Featherbed Bent, and Northern California Sensemilia. The amazing stuff about this is, that you can play 36 holes on it in the afternoon, take it home and just get stoned to the bejeezus-belt that night on this stuff.

by jc2313 on May 11, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

He almost sorta showed a bunt yesterday! That was promising!

I like to spell my racial slurs correctly. Otherwise, I may come across as ignorant.

by homesickalien on May 11, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure Lilli will ever come around.

I like Fields after Getz and before Q!.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on May 11, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

i like him no 8

"I’ll take the old gray lady over the peanut gallery on some cow town blog."
MadVillian

by blackoutsox on May 11, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

johnny condition guy still hurt, start pushed to wednesday.

richard now going tuesday.

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by larry on May 11, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions  

congrats and I wouldn't assume anything

with this economy, lost of people are getting drunk during the day . . . so, why not Wednesday?

This is a hybrid. This is a cross, ah, of Bluegrass, Kentucky Bluegrass, Featherbed Bent, and Northern California Sensemilia. The amazing stuff about this is, that you can play 36 holes on it in the afternoon, take it home and just get stoned to the bejeezus-belt that night on this stuff.

by jc2313 on May 11, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

your assumption correct: work is a top priority

delay lunch and catch an hour of the game

Lupe, release the balloons!

by LT_sox_fan on May 11, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was at the Thurs-Sun games this weekend.

I have to say, I’m not finding much joy with this team so far. Yet, we’re, what, three out? With all our issues, my biggest concern is that neither Konerko or Thome will slug enough to keep us in the race—- I’m not sure that should be my biggest concern, but somehow it is right now.

by dantesox on May 11, 2009 4:22 PM CDT reply actions  

I think our Cuban contigent has let us down.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on May 11, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, what did you expect from communism?

This is a hybrid. This is a cross, ah, of Bluegrass, Kentucky Bluegrass, Featherbed Bent, and Northern California Sensemilia. The amazing stuff about this is, that you can play 36 holes on it in the afternoon, take it home and just get stoned to the bejeezus-belt that night on this stuff.

by jc2313 on May 11, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

What do people think of Alexei at short so far?

I think he has been quite acceptable. For the larrys of the world, what are the fielding metrics telling us so far? IF we don’t lose too much defensively at short, I really think we’ve got to think about Beckham being up here and sending Ramirez to center. I give it three more weeks.

by dantesox on May 11, 2009 4:45 PM CDT reply actions  

he's been rated as about average.

but it’s way early to be putting much stock in those.

and if ramirez was actually hitting, that might be a good idea. however, it seems like the more likely plan at this point if you’re a beckham afficiondado is make ramirez the supersub/bench him/demote him and bring up beckham to replace him and let someone who is actually hitting the ball on occasion play center.

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by larry on May 11, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps.

And, just to clarify one more time…..I have no special affinity for Beckham….yet. I want the team to win. I want to give ourselves the best chance for that to happen.

by dantesox on May 11, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

you're moving a player to accomodate a guy who was drafted less than a year ago.

you have a special affinity for said player.

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by larry on May 11, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anecdotally

he appears much better going to his glove side…. He seems to struggle on balls to his right.

by The Cheat on May 11, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

whats the point of sending ramirez to center? he still doesnt hit

by kizzomynizzo on May 11, 2009 4:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Then leave him at SS

and let Becks develop for a few months – August, at least.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on May 11, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

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