Waiting for Gordo: White Sox Minor League Update
by larry on May 23, 2009 2:00 PM CDT
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As those of you who talked with me at the various blog events know, I was planning to write a post about how Gordon Beckham was likely to be called up next month to replace one of Josh Fields or Chris Getz as a starter. I even had this nifty title all ready. But, as Wiz pointed out yesterday, what was an interesting angle on Tuesday isn't so much on Saturday when one finally has some time to write about it.
At any rate, since I need to put at least 75 words up here, I'll dump the notes here. The primary thought was that Beckham's bat is mostly ready and, while his defense at SS is still suspect, that can be papered over if he's playing at second or third (and he's made appearances this week at both of those positions). Fields in particular is playing himself out of the major leagues. After about the first week of June, one doesn't need to worry about Beckham getting enough service time to be a Super Two in arbitration. If the season is to be salvaged, Beckham may be able to provide more than the current options. And if it can't be salvaged, Beckham gets plenty of no pressure PAs.
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please get rid of walker first
so he doesn’t screw Beckham up
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by blackoutsox on May 23, 2009 2:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hudson equals his walk total for the season prior to tonight in one game.
5 IP, 6 hits, 5 BB, 4 K.
mollenhauer wants retherford to go to charlotte so he can go to birmingham. 1-3, BB tonight.
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by larry on May 23, 2009 8:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
infante continues to fall from grace.
4 IP, 5 hits, 3 BB, 3 K, 2 WP, HBP.
gilmore 1-4.
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by larry on May 23, 2009 9:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
contreras found his strikeouts but results not so good - 7 runs, 5 earned - and can't get out of the sixth.
5.2 IP, 8 hits, 2 BB, 8 K, WP, HBP.
link pitches a perfect inning with 3 K.
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by larry on May 23, 2009 9:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Very encouraged
by Link’s performance thus far, another great outing. Nice to have Rodriguez back as well, gives the Sox some decent bullpen options should they become necessary.
You're a lot of woman, you know that? Yeah, wanna make 14 dollars the hard way?
by jc2313 on May 24, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
still have to like the
8k 2bb for Contreras
"I'm just here to provide street cred"
by Tdogg on May 24, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
omogrosso completes a rough night for non-major league pitchers
6 IP, 7 hits, 4 BB, 4 K.
danks 2-4. retherford 2-4, 2 2B. flowers 0-2, 2 BB. savior 0-4.
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by larry on May 23, 2009 9:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Larry
Where do you find major league translations for minor league lines?
"I'm just here to provide street cred"
by Tdogg on May 24, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
minor league splits, linked on the sidebar, has one.
about as good as any out there.
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by larry on May 24, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they're CHONE's formulas
which, knowing Chone, are at least as good as Clay Davenport’s. you can get Clay’s on BP in the minor league stat report.
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by colintj on May 24, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Retherford and Flowers are in the top 5 in translated EqA
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by colintj on May 24, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks guys
"I'm just here to provide street cred"
by Tdogg on May 25, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, mcculloch still sucks.
danks 1-3, BB.
beckham 2-4, 2B.
allen 0-2, 2 BB.
shelby 1-4, SB.
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by larry on May 24, 2009 3:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
only in the minors.
after striking out three times in three plate appearances, something called davis decided to walk brent lillibridge and plate the winning run.
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by larry on May 24, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats fucking sad.
It's like he's a cyborg sent from the future to draw 22 walks a season or something.
by omnipotent grab on May 24, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
stephen sauer is stretching out nicely as a starter.
7 IP, 3 hits, 0 BB, 5 K. now 40 K versus 1 BB in 32 innings to go along with an extremely sexy GB rate.
remenowsky didn’t have his good stuff and blew the game.
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by larry on May 24, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
marrero 1-4
santo luis just doesn’t have good stuff and blew the game.
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by larry on May 24, 2009 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
larry...
do you think shelby is progressing at all? fi has him for a pretty low BABIP combined with improved BB and K rates. it looks like his batted ball rates have him hitting balls at similar rates, so is he a victim of poor luck?
by Craig Grebeck on May 24, 2009 4:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
.240, last i checked.
i’d call that bad luck for sure. he has improved his plate discipline. the offense looks okay so far – the problem now is where is he going to play? with danks there the CF experiment is now only occasional (like today) and his defensive progress is about as important as his offensive. LF isn’t ideal for him.
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by larry on May 24, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3B maybe?
Viciedo isn’t going to stick there the entire season is he?
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by colintj on May 24, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd put viciedo there for as long as possible.
probably more likely that morel would be putting pressure on him than shelby.
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by larry on May 24, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah Shelby's not the sort of guy to make allowances for
he’s a trading chip if they can get him hitting. like Cunningham, just not as good.
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by colintj on May 24, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great title. Very clever.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 24, 2009 8:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i concur
not sure how he’s going to top this. he’s got the hoi running for cover.
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by colintj on May 24, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i have a feeling most didn't get it.
i’m not very literary though, eh colin, so i probably don’t get it either.
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by larry on May 24, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reputable Wishcasting: BP's Peak Translations
Flowers: .270/.420/.508
Retherford: .320/.346/.609
Danks: .309/.377/.509
Beckham: .296/.356/.504
Allen: .287/.348/.515
3-4 years from now, we will have the best offense forever and ever, amen.
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by colintj on May 24, 2009 10:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that's basically what curt bloom said.
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by larry on May 24, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whats a good o/u on the number of the 5
Who will be suited up on the parent club in 3-4 years?
How excited should I be? Or is all this really wishful thinking because we happen to have a few prospects for once?
"I'm just here to provide street cred"
by Tdogg on May 25, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
definitely wishful thinking
i agree with larry’s o/u
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by colintj on May 25, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that a ben folds reference?
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on May 26, 2009 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
absolutely not.
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by colintj on May 26, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thought about it after i posted
his cd what whatever and ever, amen
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on May 26, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sox machine interview's curt bloom, barons' broadcaster
http://soxmachine.com/blogs/soxmachine/archive/2009/05/25/16153.aspx
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by larry on May 25, 2009 8:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
gilmore and sauer take SAL player of the week honors.
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by larry on May 25, 2009 4:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
things that make the cheat happy.
egbert (apparently) back to starting for charlotte.
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by larry on May 25, 2009 4:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
egbert prefers to start.
5 IP, 2 hits, 0 BB, 1 K.
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by larry on May 25, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Our boys at Birmingham are having themselves quite the night!
I’ll leave the specifics to larry but try lookin’ at the box score without grinning.
by CWSKeith on May 25, 2009 9:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
gilmore 0-4, ending his 8 game hitting streak.
drew o’neil with a couple scoreless innings of relief. the groundball rate is very nice but the k/bb rate is not.
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by larry on May 25, 2009 9:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
beckham 3-5, 2B, HR.
danks 1-3, 2 BB.
viciedo 4-5.
allen 3-5.
flowers 2-5, HR.
poreda settled after a rough first: 6 IP, 5 hits, 3 BB, 6 K. plenty of groundballs.
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by larry on May 25, 2009 9:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
but where would he play?
i’d like to see a bit more of a track record in high A before doing so. and i’d also like to see some walks. that’s a mighty batting average dependent OBP he’s sporting.
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by larry on May 26, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
morel misses third straight game with injured hamstring.
marrero 4-4, HR.
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by larry on May 26, 2009 12:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Glad I found a thread on the Minors...
From a book on Coolbaugh’s death, here’s a snip followed by a link to an interview with the author. Other than a snide comment on internet posters it’s all pretty fascinating:
Minor league baseball also sells itself as a place where major league dreams are born, the place to see stars before they get too big and leave, and as a marketing play it’s the only one to make. You always want to flatter your audience, and it’s never bad to reinforce the collective hope that, like those ballplayers scrambling around the field, we’re all just punching our tickets here; we all can move up and out of this small town someday; we all have roots but are capable of leaving them behind. The truth wouldn’t sell nearly as well: too scary, too depressing. The fact is, from the players’ perspective, there’s nothing casual or forgettable about any game in the minors. Every pitch and every play is, to at least one man there, loaded with significance. The pressure to perform is crushingly heavy, the financial cushion nonexistent, the line between haves and have-nots vividly pronounced. Maybe two or three of the players you saw have a chance of playing in the major leagues. The rest, no matter how they perform, are learning — maybe even tonight — that this year or next year or the year after, they’ll be going back to their own hometowns and humdrum jobs for good.
Still, for those who survive them — and sometimes even more importantly, for those who don’t — the minors is where everything about the game is taught: not just the time and place to hit the cutoff man or translate the signal for a hit-and-run, but the secret language, the hidden codes, the way to walk, trot, run, and speak the way DiMaggio, Mays, Aaron, and Feller learned to walk, trot, run, and speak. Baseball has always had its rebels, and for the likes of Bill Veeck and Jim Bouton and Mark Fidrych, baseball’s culture has always allowed itself a modicum of tolerance. But on the whole it’s a conservative world, with hidebound mores and a near mystical regard for what is generally called "the game" — a term that stands less for rules and scoring than for a way of looking at life. Players learn plenty in the minors, but the biggest lesson is always the one they didn’t, as onetime superstars, ever expect: how to lose, how to fail, how to get kicked in the teeth and pretend to come up smiling; how, in the great baseball paradox, to learn to give yourself to "the game" even as you feel it operating contrary to all you’ve been taught, even as it rewards those who don’t "respect the game" or give themselves up for the team. Because baseball does that, too, especially in the minors: It teaches a man how to endure being crushed and then stand up and declare himself in love with that crusher for life. [47-50]
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/26/heart-of-the-game-qa-with-sl-price/?hp
Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...
by Chiburb on May 26, 2009 12:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that was pretty dang good
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by colintj on May 26, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More points in his favor: he’s not married to a Spice Girl
Gordan Beckham, SS, White Sox (Double-A Birmingham)
Monday’s stats: 3-for-5, 2B, HR (4), 5 RBI
The 2008 first-round pick hasn’t received much attention for his daily performances, as he’s been consistently good, but not great. Now we finally have a dominant run, as in his last six games, Beckham has gone 12-for-26 with three doubles and two home runs, raising his OPS nearly 100 points in the process with a season line of .307/.368/.514.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8949
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by larry on May 26, 2009 1:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Playing in a tough league (Southern) and in tough ballpark (Birmingham) hasn’t slowed Gordon Beckham down a bit. Despite missing time with a strained abdominal muscle, he’s maintained an elite contact rate (90 percent) and isolated power mark (.217). His batting eye appears to be poor, but it breaks down as one walk and six strikeouts. He’s much closer to .50 on the season
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=4196
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by larry on May 26, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
birmingham like to hit the baseball.
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by larry on May 26, 2009 7:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
everybody had a hit.
danks 3-4, HR, BB, CS (the minors are easy!)
beckham 1-5
flowers 1-5
allen 1-3, 2B, 2 BB
viciedo 1-4, 2B
shelby 2-3, 2B, HR, BB
clubfoot 1-3, BB
harrell 5 IP, 5 hits, 2 BB, 4 K. johnny lujan 3 perfect IP, 0 BB, 4 K.
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by larry on May 26, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lujan rising.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 26, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wise 2-5, 2B in his rehab debut from the DH spot.
carlos torres 5 IP, 6 hits, 3 BB, 5 K. victimized in part by some poor fielding
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by larry on May 26, 2009 8:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hurry home, DW.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 26, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you bakin' cookies?
:p
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on May 26, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actual replacement level!
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by colintj on May 27, 2009 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He seems to really miss his brother
Jordan Danks, OF, White Sox (Double-A Birmingham)
Tuesday’s stats: 3-for-4, HR (2), 2 R, RBI, BB, CS
After getting through the Carolina League in about a month, Danks is now showing little trouble getting the job done at the upper levels, going 14-for-26 with five walks in his last seven games to raise his Southern League averages to .391/.473/.531. With that kind of production, people stop wonder about why his six-foot-four, 210 pound frame doesn’t generate more power, and start wondering about how quickly he can get to the big leagues.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8952
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by larry on May 27, 2009 11:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
this is how rivalries start in the minors.
Myrtle Beach Pelicans (Carolina League)
Salute to Punctuation Night, May 28
The Pelicans are the middle school English teachers of the Carolina League, perpetually hung up on the nuances of grammar. Therefore, the club’s deeply ingrained sense of propriety was offended when the Winston-Salem franchise changed its name to the “Dash.” This is because the punctuation separating Winston and Salem is, in actuality, a hyphen. On Thursday, the Pelicans play against the so-called Dash, and throughout the game they will take great pains to be grammatically correct at all times. (They are even considering calling their opponents the Winston Hyphen Salem Dash). In order to put an exclamation mark on the proceedings, staff members will sport t-shirts featuring different types of punctuation. And who knows? Maybe they’ll play “Comma Chameleon” over the PA.
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by larry on May 27, 2009 11:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
obviously, i find that awesome
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by colintj on May 27, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously never was defined so clearly.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 27, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the dash beat up and only manage 3 hits.
morel still out. hector santiago continues to K at a good rate, 2 IP, 1 hit, 1 BB, 2 K.
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by larry on May 27, 2009 12:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
carter 7 IP, 4 hits, 0 BB, 9 K.
justin greene 2-6, HR.
kuhn 2-4, 2 BB.
gilmore 0-5.
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by larry on May 27, 2009 1:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You think he's ready?
I’d say he stays in Kanny another month tops at this rate. He has a lot of stuff to work on, but he can’t learn much more when hitters can’t handle his heat.
by Daniel Berlyn on May 27, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think maxwell is going to get dumped soon, so that would open a spot.
lots of moves around mid june, of course.
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by larry on May 27, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
rickwood classic today - and gordo is playing third.
josh fields is sweating.
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by larry on May 27, 2009 1:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So is TAEG.
Doesn’t mean it’s over his job.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 27, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
when your line is .239/.293/.314
you are sweating over your job.
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by larry on May 27, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Lord is with him.
He and Troy Hillman are good to go.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 27, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
javier collina oddly provides most of the offense for the barons. 3-4, 2 2B
beckham 0-2, 2 BB
danks 0-4, BB
viciedo 1-4
allen 0-4
clubfoot 1-4, 2B
shelby 0-4, BB, SB
flowers 0-1 as PH
ely 6 IP, 5 hits, 2 BB, 6 K.
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by larry on May 27, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wise back in CF, 1-3, 2B. removed after six innings.
lillibridge 2-4, 3B, BB
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by larry on May 27, 2009 9:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gordon Beckham’s on the fast track.
The White Sox promoted their 2008 first-round pick from Double-A Birmingham to Triple-A Charlotte, breaking up a juggernaut roster of prospects for the Barons.
Beckham, 22, has cemented his status as one of the game’s elite prospects this season. Though he spent some time on the disabled list with an abdominal injury, Beckham has hit .303/.363/.503 in 37 games. Playing in Birmingham suppressed Beckham’s home run output (he has four on the season), but he’s also mashed 17 doubles, tops in the Southern League.
Beckham has been one of the reasons behind Birmingham’s annihilation of the SL. The Barons have the SL’s best record at 31-15, with a roster that includes some of the top prospects in the organization: lefthander Aaron Poreda, catcher Tyler Flowers, first baseman Brandon Allen, center fielder Jordan Danks and third baseman Dayan Viciedo, among others, while 23-year-old second baseman C.J. Retherford is making noise as well with a .912 OPS.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=4348
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by larry on May 27, 2009 10:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
future sox is back
http://futuresox.com/frontpage/
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by larry on May 27, 2009 10:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bandwagoners.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on May 28, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
colin's getz interview won't be held hidden
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on May 28, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the knights are exicted!
beckham officially arrives.
beckham in the lineup this morning at 3B and batting second.
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by larry on May 28, 2009 10:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
08 draft review
Chicago White Sox
Top Pick: After creating an enormous amount of buzz during spring training while earning real consideration for a big-league job, shortstop Gordon Beckham has settled in nicely at Double-A Birmingham, with a .303/.363/.503 line in 37 games.
Movin’ On Up: Slipping to the seventh round due to signability issues, outfielder Jordan Danks is looking like he’s worth that $525,000 bonus, with a .346/.431/.527 line split between High- and Double-A. With gap power, a good approach, above-average speed, and plus defensive skills, scouts are having a hard time finding a weakness in his game.
Disappointing: Despite coming out of a major college program (Wichita State), sixth-round pick (and son of the general manager) Kenneth Williams looked completely overmatched at Single-A Kannapolis, batting .222 with 23 strikeouts in 63 at-bats before hitting the disabled list earlier this month.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8956
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by larry on May 28, 2009 10:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL on KWJ. What a shock.
Who blew a gasket last year when he was picked? Was it Pete, or Wiz, or someone else?
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 28, 2009 11:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
SSH?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on May 28, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
http://www.southsidesox.com/2008/9/1/605630/game-137-white-sox-77-59-i#8463477
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on May 28, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
god i hated that bitch
i suck - the sox dont - SSH2005
by BoeJouma on May 28, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're like M.A.S.H. without Frank Burns.
by The Actual El Guapo on May 28, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have no chinless warrior.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 28, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
God that thread is a beut
White Sox: looks like we rolled snake eyes.
by vince_ on May 28, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wu: Is there a game on?
ssh: Yes, there is…
Oney Guillen’s .476 OPS in freaking Single A ball.
:p
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by The Wizard on May 28, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
beckham 1-4, 2B in debut.
contreras 6 IP, 4 runs, 2 BB, 6 K, WP. was in the strikezone a lot more: 78 pitches, 52 strikes.
wise 1-4, again in CF. played the full game.
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by larry on May 28, 2009 12:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oh, and for those of you who subscribe to the "putting pressure on the defense" theory,
you’ll want to know that beckham reached base twice on errors.
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by larry on May 28, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, this "Dueling Banjoes" of minor league reports on Becks
between you and Wiz is entertaining. (I know, your report is comprenensively focused on all minors, and Wiz’ is on Becks.)
(Camera pans to Wiz, who is holding his banjo.)
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 28, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
to what are you referring?
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by larry on May 28, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wiz' Becks fanpost below yours.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 28, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're saying he's posting the same thing as i am in that?
that sounds pretty stupid. way to fuck the readers of this site.
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by larry on May 28, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not what I said. Calm down.
(I know, your report is comprenensively focused on all minors, and Wiz’ is on Becks.)
What part of that did you not see?
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 28, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i saw the whole thing. so he's posting things about a minor league player in another post.
the whole point of this was to centralize discussion of the white sox minor leagues in one place. you know, like how other sites do. seems like doing something other than that is a disservice to our readers. whatever.
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by larry on May 28, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone else agrees that it is slightly redundant. Someone you even respect.
Old Larry would’ve sank this thread like Rockefeller before the Sherman Antitrust Act.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on May 27, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s all I’m saying.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 28, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right. redundancy is stupid. the point of this was to remedy the complaint from our readers that finding discussion on this topic was difficult on SSS because it was often in multiple threads.
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by larry on May 28, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are getting defensive for no reason.
Wiz is the redundant one. I championed your streamlining of your minor league focus.
Fer Chrissakes. Relax. I was tweaking Wiz, not you.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 28, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm not getting defensive. i'm getting offensive. if that's what occurring, our readers are the ones getting screwed. as you often note, that's to whom i'm responsible.
i’m not interested in having this site waste their time. if we do, they’ve got other options to go to for their white sox MILB news and, apparently, more options by the day with futuresox jumping back on the bandwagon, as jim eloquently said. it’s disappointing that any SSS poster would want to actively hurt this site.
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by larry on May 28, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i assume one can post whatever he wants
in that other thread and not get yelled at. that would be a difference.
by Hatchetm on May 28, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup. and that's sure helpful to other readers.
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by larry on May 28, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, i've perused the option.
redundant information and misinformation about the white sox acquiring a player the cubs acquired. sounds like the sort of thing that would send people to options outside this site. another reason to centralize information is quality control.
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by larry on May 28, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You and Wiz had this out a few weeks ago,
IIRC, when Wiz first started posting re: Becks. And there were those of us who said it was redundant, and those who thought it was fine (I think it initially related to a Smoak posting on a Becks post).
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 28, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh. i see. it's take your ball and play someplace else. got it.
i sometimes forget these things, being an adult and all.
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by larry on May 28, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea what has your undies in a bundle.
I agree that Wiz’ FanPost is redundant. Let me say this clearly: I AGREE WITH YOU! However, it’s a free country (unless this really is becoming a Chinese site). If you and the other powers that be want to restrict what and how people post be my guest. I think that would be unnecessary, and perhaps juvenile (being an adult and all, I am secure in my contributions, infantile though they may be), but it’s not my call. I think Viva los Birdos doesn’t allow swearing, and I encourage it, but it’s his site.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 28, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no fucking way we're getting rid of swearing
" You know...
I think this technique of using the ninth inning of close ballgames as extended spring training for pitchers who’ve missed time due to injury might not be a great idea."
by eponymous_coward on May 14, 2009 1:16 PM PDT
by U-God on May 28, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is like fighting with your wife
after she wakes up and had a bad dream about you cheating on her or something. (“Where TF did THIS come from? What did I do?”)
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 28, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
you must have forgotten where you were posting.
at SSS we mock stupidity. and this is taking the cake for the week so far.
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by larry on May 28, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have been informed that, as a result of this exchange, our community is now considered to be "vibrant" rather than "solid".
by The Actual El Guapo on May 28, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I prefer "stimulating".
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 28, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the next moneyball tactic
you just wait
by Daniel Berlyn on May 28, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
class A notebooks
carolina league
SAL
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by larry on May 28, 2009 2:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
TRLongwe (Durham NC): Can you tell me if White Sox prospect CJ Retherford is considered a legitimate prospect in baseball circles? He’s hitting .312/.344/.567 in AA as a 2B and he’s only 23.
Kevin Goldstein: He’s semi-legit, because he really does have some skills at the plate. He’s just not a middle infielder — that’s the problem.
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by larry on May 28, 2009 2:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
heeler (Peoria, IL): Better of the two Chicago minor leaguers? Andrew Cashner (Cubs) or Dexter Carter (White Sox)
Kevin Goldstein: Cashner. Not even close.
..
scott (chicago): Anything to read into Beckham getting promoted to AAA? Could the Josh Fields experiment soon be over? Please please please tell me it’s so…
Kevin Goldstein: I’d read more into the fact that he’s playing third base there. That’s really telling for your question.
scott (chicago): Well, that’s partly why I mentioned Fields. But why waste your time moving him to AAA? It’s not like it’s tougher to defend at AAA than AA, right?
Kevin Goldstein: Because they already have Viciedo at third base at Double-A, and now he can stay there while Beckham plays it at Triple-A.
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by larry on May 28, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finally
Been waiting on some comments/opinions from baseball people on CJ.
What is he lacking in regards to being a decent middle infielder? Am I right to assume it has something to do with his mobility in regards to his foot? What other position would he be better suited for?
Also, as someone who mainly visits for the minor league discussion, I prefer the blunt and almost cruel Larryful insight.
by DirtySox on May 28, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
may be more than just his foot.
he’s not that big to start with, which will affect range to some degree. he may be more suited to a corner, defensively. of course, then you have to ask whether the bat plays there. i wonder if some of the issues may not just be from a lack of playing time at a position. he’s been moved around quite a bit, both in college and in the minors. it’s good, i think, that he’s been played pretty consistently at 2B this year.
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by larry on May 28, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what is the problem with his foot? Is it a manageable condition?
by hoodlight on May 30, 2009 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he had a clubfoot. fixed surgically as a child but he still runs/moves kind of oddly.
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by larry on May 30, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steven Gerrard was also born with a club foot and it hasn't done him any harm
and he plays a much more athletic sport. I don’t know if it’s a valid comparison but it shows that it needn’t be an impediment to competing at the highest level.
by hoodlight on May 30, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure. we mention it because it does cause him to run a bit oddly. i'm sure he's adapted pretty well but one can't help but wonder if it has some effect.
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by larry on May 30, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
greene 2-3, BB, HR in game one for kanny.
gilmore 1-3.
edwards 5.1 IP, 8 hits, 0 BB, 6 K.
tyson corley, the side-arming righty, after another scoreless 1.2 IP, still has not been scored upon this season. he’s repeating the level so i’d hope he’ll be getting promoted to W-S soon. very nice GB rate, could be a ROOGY-type down the line.
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by larry on May 28, 2009 7:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
kenny wouldn't like a ROOGY
not manly enough.
by Hatchetm on May 28, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
marrero 1-4
morel still out.
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by larry on May 28, 2009 8:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
omogrosso continues to be rather impressive
6 IP, 1 hit, 4 BB, 6 K.
danks 0-4, BB
flowers 0-3, 2 BB
viciedo 1-4, BB
allen 2-5, 2B
shelby 2-4, 2B, 3B
retherford 2-3, 2B, BB
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by larry on May 28, 2009 9:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
'Why hit when you can walk?' - T Flo
It's like he's a cyborg sent from the future to draw 22 walks a season or something.
by omnipotent grab on May 28, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
garrett johnson roughed up in his first start since coming off the DL. only lasted 2.2 IP in game two.
remenowsky another perfect IP with 2 K.
greene 2-4, 2B, SB.
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by larry on May 28, 2009 10:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Movin’ on up, soon to the south side?
Gordon Beckham, 3B, White Sox (Triple-A Charlotte)
Thursday’s stats: 1-for-4, 2B, R
What is more interesting that the White Sox’ top pick in the 2008 draft moving up to Triple-A is the position he played in his debut, as the shortstop has suddenly slid over to the hot corner. With Josh Fields doing next to nothing in the big leagues, could the big call for Beckham be coming sooner than originally expected? .
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8969
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by larry on May 29, 2009 11:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gee, I wish someone on this site had thought of that possibility
and posted to that effect. Thanks, BP! Just quote us (er, larry) next time, you P’sOS.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 29, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i asked everyone where they thought he'd be playing. kevin was just letting us know his thoughts.
redundancy is the order of the week, after all.
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by larry on May 29, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and kyle shelton back to the dash from kanny to replace lang.
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by larry on May 29, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeremy (Chicago): Are the White Sox rushing Beckham? Sure Josh Fields is playing himself out of the majors, but might the on the horizon promotion be a little premature? Reassure me please.
Ben Badler: He mashed in college, he was a consensus top bat last year in the draft, he mashed in the AFL and he’s mashed in Double-A. We’re not dealing with enormous sample sizes, but I don’t think he’s being rushed.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/chat/?1243617399
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by larry on May 29, 2009 1:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Max (Florida): What has happened to Brandon Allen’s power? Do you think he will turn out to be the Brandon Allen of last year or this year when he makes it to the majors?
Ben Badler: He’s another guy in a park that suppresses home runs. He’s hitting nearly .300 with a SLG near .500, so I don’t think there are any Big Papi power outages there. He’s been one of the most improved players in the minor leagues over the last couple of years.
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by larry on May 29, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His power ‘outage’ is only an outage if anyone was expecting him to replicate that ridiculous HR/BIA rate he had in AA last year (it was over 20%). His rate this year is a bit below where you might expect but it’s nothing to be too concerned with.
by The Big Hurt on May 29, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not exactly a lot of great questions re: the sox - this guy gives me a bad name.
Larry (Streetsville): Brandon Allen or Tyler Flowers?
Ben Badler: Flowers, even if he has to switch positions
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by larry on May 29, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, that was your mother's doing.
THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY
by colintj on May 29, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
power needs the most sample size before conclusions can be drawn
and that dude’s worried that Allen might not be as good as his two month binge last year.
THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY
by colintj on May 29, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suppose Beckham is called up by early/mid-June
What would your realistic best case scenario numbers be from him?
by Sox-35th on May 29, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
realistic best case?
without too much thought, something like .285/.345/.450. i think the power will be there, i’d question, though, if his BA will be that good or whether he’ll draw walks. the major league equivalents for his AA numbers were about 260/.315/.410. take the mid-point of those two triple slashes and you’re probably at what he’ll realistically do.
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by larry on May 29, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with best case SLG.
Not sure about AVG or OBP, as you suggest – I think he’ll have trouble with the off-speed pitches (I bet he’ll handle any heat thrown his way, as Fields slumps further into his reeking failure).
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 29, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't look now
but Fields’ OBP just cracked .300
by Daniel Berlyn on May 30, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pressure builds diamonds.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 30, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think his presence reshuffles the lineup at all?
Or does he simply step in for Fields at the bottom?
by Sox-35th on May 29, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
initially, i think he'll bat near the bottom, though probably not the bottom.
after that, he may be moved up to #2.
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by larry on May 29, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best case scenario and his OPS is under .800?
I give the kid more credit than that.
I deleted it because of the misspselling. -the Cheat
by e-gus on May 29, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that OPS would put him amongst the top 75-90 players in baseball.
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by larry on May 29, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there are currently 165 players
with an OPS over .8
I deleted it because of the misspselling. -the Cheat
by e-gus on May 29, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's also currently May
" You know...
I think this technique of using the ninth inning of close ballgames as extended spring training for pitchers who’ve missed time due to injury might not be a great idea."
by eponymous_coward on May 14, 2009 1:16 PM PDT
by U-God on May 29, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i find that hard to believe.
unless you’re including guys who have 6 plate appearances or something.
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by larry on May 29, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AHAHA ya got me.
yes, every player that has had atleast 1 AB.
I deleted it because of the misspselling. -the Cheat
by e-gus on May 29, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
would leaving him down there for the whole year improve those numbers
for next year?
Colon, who after pitching 5 scoreless innings, had to leave the game with an upset stomach.
by blackoutsox on May 29, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OBP is low
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on May 29, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL.
Still less than Jesus, though.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 29, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very nice.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 29, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this analysis works for flowers, too, who is taller.
Matt Wieters (0 DXL)
Today’s the day and I figured that I should at least address Wieters. Wieters may be the rebirth of the Orioles or PECOTA’s Waterloo, but we do know that he’s going to be the ultimate test of the tall catcher problem. Along with Joe Mauer, whose leg problems can in some ways be attributed to his height, Wieters is one of very few catchers over 6’3". Keith Law was the first to mention this that I can remember, though I’m sure it had been addressed elsewhere. His ideas on it (he was against at the time, though I’m not sure if he still is) got me to ask some of my father’s students to test it. They did some calculations and physical tests and, yes, there is more stress on the knees and hips during all phases of the crouch. Testing the muscles’ response was more difficult, but the additional stresses didn’t seem to speak well there. I’ve long been for moving Mauer from behind the plate, and if Wieters is as good, I’ll be an advocate of moving him as well. Not completely, but both play in the AL and that DH slot should be used for more than just hiding a glove. Now, let’s all hope that this is the last time that I have to put Wieters’ name in UTK.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8966
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by larry on May 29, 2009 7:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lots of great 6'2" or 6'3" catchers in history.
couple of real tall catchers I remember were joel skinner and andy allanson. neither could hit a lick but were very good defensively.
is there a seminal paper on this “tall catcher problem?”
by Hatchetm on May 30, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think you only need to look up the career stats of the two players you mentioned to get the flavor of the seminal paper.
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by larry on May 30, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tall catchers can't hit?
hell, hardly any catchers can hit. talk about a small sample size. piazza and parrish were 6-3. fisk, bench were 6-2.
guys like campy and berra…the only place on the field they COULD play was catcher.
by Hatchetm on May 30, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think the initial post was quite clear.
injuries.
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by larry on May 30, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the guys i mentioned
were not injury prone. nor the other 4. in fact those guys were iron men.
who were these 6-4 and over catchers that got injured?
by Hatchetm on May 30, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
our new catcher is a good case study.
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by larry on May 30, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hopefully we'll have to move him off catcher at the age of 30.
i still worry about a guy that hits .250 in AA. hopefully he’ll be the next eddie joost.
by Hatchetm on May 30, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he could actually play the position passably, i wouldn't worry about any injury concerns, real or imagined, and just use him up.
but, if he continues to suck at it, with his past injury history, it may just be better to figure out another position. at any rate, a decision for next year.
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by larry on May 30, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
beckham 2-3, including a shot off the pitcher which almost killed lucas french.
also had a throwing error and a sac fly.
cassel 6 IP, 6 hits, 1 BB, 5 K.
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by larry on May 29, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hudson with another rough outing
4 IP, 6 hits, 2 BB, 4 K.
marrero 1-4.
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by larry on May 29, 2009 9:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
shelby 1-3, BB
retherford 1-4
flowers 1-2, 2B, 2 BB
allen 1-4 with 3 K
viciedo 3-4
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by larry on May 29, 2009 9:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
kanny decided to play 14 innings again today.
just in one game this time.
infante 5 IP, 3 hits, 3 BB, 5 K.
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by larry on May 29, 2009 9:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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