White Sox Roster Move Mania
The White Sox traded Lance Broadway to the New York Mets for catcher Ramon Castro and cash. Corky Miller will be designated for assignment. Wes Whisler is being called up to take Broadway's place in the bullpen.
Quick thoughts:
Castro is an improvement over Miller offensively and while he's not nearly as good as Corky defensively, his offense more than makes up for that (career .237/.311/.417). He's hit slightly better against lefties but doesn't have much of a platoon split over his career. Castro has thrown out 31% of runners over his career. In 2007 and 2008 his CS% was quite poor but he's rebounded this year to throw out 7 of 15. He's making $2.5 million this year and I'd expect the Mets will be paying a good chunk of that.
Broadway simply isn't that good and he's pretty much redundant on this team. I expected him to be gone prior to Opening Day. Clayton Richard's performance has sewn up the 5th starter role and, with Jose Contreras waiting in the wings, Broadway had no place. And it gives New York City headline writers some pre-written work.
I'll just re-post what I wrote about Whisler a couple weeks back:
This guy just doesn’t strike enough people out. While his ERA is often very nice – 3.81 last year and 2.12 so far this year – his peripherals scream "not a major leaguer." He’s averaged about 4.5 K/9 in the upper minors and that simply won’t do. While he does perform better against lefties, he hasn’t shut them down like a Gobble can. Also has little experience pitching in relief.
He does give Ozzie another lefty in the pen, which he of course loves. Whisler is expected to stay until Contreras is called up for the doubleheader on June 8.
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Who gives a shit.
We need the sweep. Bust out the brooms for Buehrle going for his 7th.
by Shakey on May 29, 2009 11:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was Danks going for the sweep and losing to ZG.
Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...
by Chiburb on May 30, 2009 6:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
It's like he's a cyborg sent from the future to draw 22 walks a season or something.
by omnipotent grab on May 30, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The big news tonight was...
the Wieters debut. Wow. Go over to camden chat and see Wieters mania. They regard him like we regard Q! and Beckham.
the quote from a fan on the MLB.COM homepage reads:
Sliced bread is actually the best thing since Matt Wieters.
— hero66
On a side note, we’re trading Broadway about 3 1/2 years too late.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on May 29, 2009 11:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
another one
Matt Wieters’ Greatness Is Actually Visible From Space.
http://www.mattwietersfacts.com/
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on May 30, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
'Matt Wieters' is the fourth true outcome.'
lawl thats awesome.
It's like he's a cyborg sent from the future to draw 22 walks a season or something.
by omnipotent grab on May 30, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we should have traded broadway for wieters
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart
by Jbasic89 on May 30, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this could be bad....
Che on the same team as Castro…
Banned - by The Cheat on Sep 25, 2008 10:17 PM CDT
by BoeJouma on May 30, 2009 1:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Been done. Last night's game.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 30, 2009 6:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gonzales reads the tea leaves some
Anyway, here’s one consideration to keep in mind: A.J. Pierzynski is in the first year of a two-year, $12.5 million extension. Pierzynski is one of the most durable catchers in the game and adds value as a left-handed hitter.
The Sox, however, have been gushing about Tyler Flowers since acquiring him in a trade last winter from Atlanta. Flowers, 23, is batting .256 with six doubles and six home runs at Double-A Birmingham. Those numbers don’t suggest he’s ready for the majors, but there are three months left in the minor league season.
Pierzynski, meanwhile, will earn full-no trade rights about one-third of the way through the 2010 season should he stick with the Sox by virtue of playing at least 10 seasons in the majors, including at least the last five with the Sox.
The acquisition of Castro reinforces the Sox’s mission to win now at all cost (especially after their failed efforts to land Jake Peavy). But Williams always keeps an eye on the future, and landing a dependable journeyman like Castro gives him more flexibility in the event they believe Flowers is ready next year.
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by larry on May 30, 2009 8:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't imagine trading AJ right now would bring back more than Lance Broadway
Although I guess it would save them money…so, good point Gonzales. But I think AJ will be very hard to trade.
by hitlesswonder on May 30, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and I can't imagine Buehrle would take these guys hunting anytime soon....

" i'm sure you've been right on something at some point."
-by Larry on May 28, 2009 4:55 PM PST
by Hoytsstash on May 30, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Whats OBP again?" - Chicago Sports writers
It's like he's a cyborg sent from the future to draw 22 walks a season or something.
by omnipotent grab on May 30, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't AJ have no-trade protection? If so, he'll be around for a while.
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by Flyer on May 30, 2009 10:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Never mind I just finished reading the article.
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by Flyer on May 30, 2009 10:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
so long lance
you were a game threaders dream.

I deleted it because of the misspselling. -the Cheat
by e-gus on May 30, 2009 11:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
don't worry, I'll keep you guys posted since I get invited to a met game on what seems like a weekly basis
Formerly Crede's Crew
by Q!'s Qrew on May 30, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well at least the new guy has some potential

I deleted it because of the misspselling. -the Cheat
by e-gus on May 30, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling we will see a platoon at C more often now.
Have AJ catch against the lefties and Castro against the righties.
by Ahillock on May 30, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling you're wrong
that would give Castro more starts than AJ.
I deleted it because of the misspselling. -the Cheat
by e-gus on May 30, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
also, AJ is left handed
why would he face lefties exclusively?
maybe you had it backwards?
I still say AJ gets lions share.
I deleted it because of the misspselling. -the Cheat
by e-gus on May 30, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
aj is right handed
and happens to bat from the left side
Banned - by The Cheat on Sep 25, 2008 10:17 PM CDT
by BoeJouma on May 30, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was speaking about the pictchers
AJ- MB, Danks, Richard
Castro- Floyd, Colon
by Ahillock on May 30, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AJ doesn't like your plan
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on May 30, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neither does anyone else.
Except maybe the opposing pitchers.
It's like he's a cyborg sent from the future to draw 22 walks a season or something.
by omnipotent grab on May 30, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2009 ZIPS Projection - Ramon Castro
AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB BA OBP SLG ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Year-to-Date 79 5 20 5 0 3 13 8 16 0 .253 .322 .430 Rest-of-Year 116 13 29 6 0 6 21 11 28 0 .250 .314 .460 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total 195 18 49 11 0 9 34 19 44 0 .251 .317 .448
Excellent move by the White Sox here. It’s not going to push the Sox to win the division, but when acquiring talent, when you can get a league-average player very cheaply, it’s very hard to resist it.
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/oracle/discussion/white_sox_acquired_castro/
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on May 30, 2009 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Domino Theory.....
Contreras
Dayan Viciedo
Che
and…..
Castro (a Puerto Rican Castro at that)
Hoytsstash would suggest that McCarthy thinks something is amiss on the South Side…
" i'm sure you've been right on something at some point."
-by Larry on May 28, 2009 4:55 PM PST
by Hoytsstash on May 30, 2009 1:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
thats ok
we traded him to the Rangers for Danks.
I deleted it because of the misspselling. -the Cheat
by e-gus on May 30, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hoytsstash thinks that's a great point....
get rid of him long before there would be any trouble in the clubhouse…there’s no need to re-hash sh*t….
" i'm sure you've been right on something at some point."
-by Larry on May 28, 2009 4:55 PM PST
by Hoytsstash on May 30, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
I think Broadway needed another year, heck he’s only 25. I say that if we are planning on rebuilding, this wasn’t a good move. When is Flowers going to be ready, we need him up in the bigs.
Rebuild and Restock.
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 3:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Broadway was not an actual part of the future
you haven’t been a Sox fan long, but Broadway was just another terrible first round choice that was “safe” but came with a very low cieling. rebuilding involves talent, Broadway lacks talent. he is a fifth-starter at best, and a mediocre one at that.
" You know...
I think this technique of using the ninth inning of close ballgames as extended spring training for pitchers who’ve missed time due to injury might not be a great idea."
by eponymous_coward on May 14, 2009 1:16 PM PDT
by U-God on May 30, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I have been a Sox fan long
I was just saying that I would rather have Broadway than a backup catcher. And if anyone doesn’t know this is dasox313 but under a different name.
Rebuild and Restock.
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wonderful
Broadway is garbage. And according to your own profile, you haven’t been a Sox fan very long
I became a Sox fan when they won the world series and have kept on since.You’re a bandwagoner.
" You know...
I think this technique of using the ninth inning of close ballgames as extended spring training for pitchers who’ve missed time due to injury might not be a great idea."
by eponymous_coward on May 14, 2009 1:16 PM PDT
by U-God on May 30, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
you’ve missed out on alot. Eeryone else on this site seems to remember when I said how old I was long back. Jezuschrist
Rebuild and Restock.
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
three years still isn't a long time for a high-schooler
i’m not that much older than you. and you seem to have missed out on a lot as lance broadway is pure garbage and would not contribute anything of value to the sox now or in the future. he is masset at best. and when you can turn masset into an upgrade at another position on your team, back-up catcher in this instance, you do it.
" You know...
I think this technique of using the ninth inning of close ballgames as extended spring training for pitchers who’ve missed time due to injury might not be a great idea."
by eponymous_coward on May 14, 2009 1:16 PM PDT
by U-God on May 30, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not in high school
dur
Rebuild and Restock.
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fine
you’re 14, whatever. 3 years is still not a long time when you’re talking to lifers.
" You know...
I think this technique of using the ninth inning of close ballgames as extended spring training for pitchers who’ve missed time due to injury might not be a great idea."
by eponymous_coward on May 14, 2009 1:16 PM PDT
by U-God on May 30, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever
When you are young, you don’t know what team you’re a fan of, just whatever team you play on in little league. And I’m stuck on the Cubbies this year.
Rebuild and Restock.
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heck No
But I’m having a monster season, 7RBI today
Rebuild and Restock.
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can get a lot of pussy with clutch numbers like that.
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by larry on May 30, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good to have Uncle larry weigh in.
LOL.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 30, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure what this has to do with you saying
’ that you are stuck on the cubbies ’ – you are definitely the master of the non sequitur. What position were you playing and how many extra base hits did you get?
by hoodlight on May 30, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I play catcher
and I had 4 Doubles, a stolen home run, and a sac fly
Rebuild and Restock.
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see you have been correcting the people at Minor league ball on their use of English
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2009/5/30/893197/clayton-richard#16369913
well played kid, that lot need some first aid in English
by hoodlight on May 30, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at it this way
Castro is a sure thing, we know he will be a good backup catcher. Plus if the situation comes that requires us to trade AJ then he will work until we get Flowers.
Broadway could possibly be a good pitcher at the back end but that is doubtful. He hasn’t shown much development so far, why should we expect a breakout next year?
"...and when it comes to baseball, we have two favorite clubs: the Go-Go White Sox...and whoever plays the Cubs!!!"
by 815Sox on May 30, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of my best clients is a huge Mets fan. This is his e-mail to me today:
Really good backup catcher. Hope the guy you sent is good.
My response: Yep. Good for nothing! BWAHAHAHA! (Actually, I’ll give the party line about being a back-of-the-rotation, blah, blah.)
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 30, 2009 4:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you should stick with what you have
on the money, OPOS, on the money.
...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT
by rhythm on May 31, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't want to foul the pristine Minor League Report with actual Major League info,
and it’s slightly OT, but I’m watching Rays/Twinks. 3 items of note:
1. Liriano threw 47 pitches in the 3rd inning. Not the guy from 2006 any more.
2. Crede had to leave the game after the top of the 4th. I bet his back feels real good after standing around for 47 pitches on turf.
3. D. Price improving. Spotting his FB much better.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 30, 2009 4:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
(I love posting 3 in a row)
One thought – when do you let a guy hitting .417 with 11 HR’s hit 3rd? Mauer is still hitting 2nd.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on May 30, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hitting 3rd isn't grindy Twinkies baseball
no one hits third, they go 1-2, 4-10.
...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT
by rhythm on May 31, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t want to foul the pristine Minor League Report
oh boy, larry will be pissed with you … wait, your username isn’t ‘The Wizard’, you’re ok
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on May 31, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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