How Soon is Now? White Sox Minor League Update
by larry on May 30, 2009 10:24 AM CDT
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PrintI'm going to be posting my mid-seasonish top prospects list in a comprehensive post in the next few weeks. However, first I'd like to get the thoughts of the more dedicated minor league followers at a preliminary list. Keep in mind, I spent about three minutes considering this.
1. Beckham
2. Flowers
3. Poreda
4. Allen
5. Danks
6. Viciedo
7. Carter
8. Link
9. Hudson
10. Shelby
11. C. Torres
Others in no order: Retherford, N. Jones, Omogrosso, Morel, Ely, Infante, Gilmore, Upchurch, D. Rodriguez, Marrero, Leesman.
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Flowers definitely deserves to be second.
He mashed in April due to a .421 babip but after it came back down to earth his OBP rate skyrocketed. 26.5% BB to 17.6% K in may over 102 PA.
It's like he's a cyborg sent from the future to draw 22 walks a season or something.
by omnipotent grab on May 30, 2009 10:44 AM CDT reply actions
Walk rate skyrocketed*
It's like he's a cyborg sent from the future to draw 22 walks a season or something.
by omnipotent grab on May 30, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
i suppose you weren't around yet for the you're the one for me, fatty conversation.
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Don't believe so....
Also, there is this thread and the one on the front page this morning.
We should really consider centralizing the minor league discussions, don’t you think?
;)
by homesickalien on May 30, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
i know you're kidding, but this is the model that people thought was a good / the best choice for how SSS is set-up.
i’m not messing around when i say that i’ve spent considerable time and thought, not to mention asking people (usually people who i know are big minor league guys but posted elsewhere or infrequenty) what they wanted in white sox milb coverage. and i of course have my own throughts on how this coverage is going to evolve. as is evident in the now taken suggestion that this fanpost be weekly, i’m open to suggestions on how to improve the coverage. we unfortunately have some constraints in how SSS is set-up which sort of hinders the daily coverage of this topic. obviously, those constraints are an advantage in the bread and butter of this site so i wouldn’t change it – it just provides a bit of a challenge in creativity.
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You have done a great job larry.
The minor league threads have kept me consistently checking the site daily even during those weeks of bad Sox baseball.
It's like he's a cyborg sent from the future to draw 22 walks a season or something.
by omnipotent grab on May 30, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Your time and thought is evident. This is great stuff. I've never been able to follow the minors to such a degree and I am personally very grateful for what you've done.
And yeah, of course I was fucking around.
by homesickalien on May 30, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
you can show your gratitude by recommending the fanpost so it sticks to the top. thank you.
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more videos
of BECKHAM
i don't really consider a raspberry from sliding into home an injury
by U-God on May 31, 2009 4:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Becky (Chicago, IL): Aaron Poreda’s final destination? Starter or Bullpen?
Jim Callis: Bullpen.
http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=26557
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No please.
It's like he's a cyborg sent from the future to draw 22 walks a season or something.
by omnipotent grab on May 30, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
bullpen for our 09 world series run
win-win!
(One can dream)
White Sox: looks like we rolled snake eyes.
Nice
lol
It's like he's a cyborg sent from the future to draw 22 walks a season or something.
by omnipotent grab on May 30, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
haha
Your suit is black.............................................................................................NOT
lightning rounds are tough that way.
and i’m sure you already know the clarification.
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I feel like the answer left no room for him to improve
he could be a reliever in the majors now. He could probably start in the majors now, for that matter, if you want an average to below-average starter.
by Daniel Berlyn on May 30, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
right. jim callis apparently thinks poreda isn't going to improve enough to be a good enough starter.
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the dominican summer league starts today.
tough to get information on the white sox team (it appears the sox are only fielding one this season) and, historically, there isn’t much there. here’s the link to the roster; juan silverio is probably the only name anyone would recognize.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&cid=633
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minor moves.
mike johnston, b-ham to charlotte.
and, in an odd move, sergio santos – who was a NRI this ST as a 3B and was formerly a top prospect at SS in the Arizona system – is now at kanny as a pitcher.
http://kannapolis.intimidators.milb.com/documents/2009/05/30/5046790/1/09_0530_Notes.pdf?sid=t487
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5:07 [Comment From Larry]
Kevin, are there any sleeper prospects in the White Sox system which you think should be getting some attention and why?
5:09 Kevin Goldstein: Some interesting arms at Low A, especially Dan Hudson and Stephen Sauer. Again, these are sleepers, so just guys who ARE prospects, as opposed to awesome ones.
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Any different than Hahn's feedback?
Were you using KG as a check of Hahn’s disclosures? Just curious.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
i was just asking him.
he talks to scouts who actually watch these games. and he’ll usually repeat the names of guys who catch the scouts’ eyes. i use it more as a check on myself. sauer has been piquing my interest recently so it’s interesting at least to hear others say this.
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Sauer is an underwhelming prospect as a reliever
Oh, well… better than Hunt or O’Neil, anyway.
by Daniel Berlyn on May 30, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
you're kidding.
you sure you want to go with the guy with the 40:1 strikeout to walk ratio? could come back to bite you. might want to sleep on that decision.
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Right
Let me know when any of them do shit in the majors.
by Daniel Berlyn on May 30, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
why are you bothering to read this thread if that's your attitude.
just go hang out with kenwo and the white sox will let you know when any of the guys mentioned here make it to the majors.
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because it's splitting hairs
their performance in A ball at age 22, 23 does not dictate much
by Daniel Berlyn on May 30, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
i'll be sure to ignore such things in the future. i'll also ignore scouting reports. thanks for the help. invaluable.
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ROFL
“just go hang out with kenwo”
i don't really consider a raspberry from sliding into home an injury
by U-God on May 31, 2009 4:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
It makes sense.
I could see larry singing some Morrissey at karaoke night.
I deleted it because of the misspselling. -the Cheat
by e-gus on May 30, 2009 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha Rec'd
Your suit is black.............................................................................................NOT
yup, egbert prefers starting
5 IP, 5 hits, 1 BB, 6 K.
link closes with a perfect IP and a K.
beckham 1-4, 2B.
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striking people out is easy
sauer 7 IP, 10 hits, 0 BB, 6 K. looks like the groundball machine is fully stretched out now as a starter.
remenosky 1 IP for the save, 1 hit and 1 K.
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when you do that you're probably lucky, in terms of giving up runs.
you also have a porous infield defense. sauer isn’t going to miss bats.
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6 K's.
He missed a few, though I didn’t see it, nor do I know the level of competition he faced.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
i mean he has control, i.e. is in the strike zone. i'm not sure the command is there to keep striking guys out at such a rate at higher levels. his curve will need to develop more.
but he generally induces weak-ish contact.
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Isnt there going to
also be a split concern for him as he moves up? If I remember him from college correctly, I thought he sort of slinged the ball from the right side. I would think he might end up having issues with lefties as he moves up the ladder and I know he has been far less successful against them in his short pro career thus far.
You're a lot of woman, you know that? Yeah, wanna make 14 dollars the hard way?
that's a fair assessment.
he strikes me as a guy who might benefit from adding a cutter. as goldstein said, at this point he’s just an interesting arm. and when you see an organization stretching a college reliever into a starter, usually means they agree because otherwise they wouldn’t be allocating innings to him.
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dsl white sox won in extras.
ummm… daurys mercedes was 2-5 with a 3B. juan ramirez also 2-5. i love dsl.
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poreda 6 IP, 7 hits, 3 BB, 7 K and a pickoff (again)
danks 1-5, SB
cj 1-3, BB
allen 1-4
viciedo 1-4, also committed the fielding error that allowed the winning run to score.
flowers 0-1 as PH.
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Poreda was great at picking off runners at high school
Colon, who after pitching 5 scoreless innings, had to leave the game with an upset stomach.
by blackoutsox on May 30, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
imagine if hawk were announcing
The Birmingham Barons lost two arguments with the umps …
The bigger argument came in the sixth on a one-hop line drive to second baseman C.J. Retherford, who converted the play into a 4-6-3 double play. However, an inadvertent ruling of an infield fly negated the force out at second. Barons manager Ever Maggallanes argued the call for a dozen minutes, to no avail.
According to Rule 2.00, however, the infield fly was not in effect because no baserunner occupied second base.
http://blog.al.com/birmingham-news-sports/2009/05/barons_lose_arguments_to_umps.html
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Larry, now that we have corky and donny lucy
and Armstrong basically sucks, any chance on getting some value from him in a trade?
or would he hang around in the minors helping the pitchers, since we need catchers?
Colon, who after pitching 5 scoreless innings, had to leave the game with an upset stomach.
morel 1-4 in his return
marrero 1-4, HR.
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you know it's a bad day when the converted SS making his pro pitching debut is the guy who's able to get outs.
sergio santos 1 IP, 1 hit, 0 BB, 1 K.
leesman took it. 5.2 IP, 12 hits, 1 BB, 2 K.
gilmore 1-4.
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beckham 3-4, SB
and, carlos torres, this is not how you get in the official SSS top ten prospects list: 4.1 IP, 7 hits, 5 BB, 5 K.
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Carlos Torreham or Gordon Beckes..?
It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
you damn gingers with your sinister ways!
;)
...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT
FFS, follow the damn link!
...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT
We have good talent again, but you can tell the depth drops off suddenly
when you see people like D-Rod up there
Colon, who after pitching 5 scoreless innings, had to leave the game with an upset stomach.
the drop is pretty precipitous after 6.
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You really think the dropoff
to Carter and Hudson is that huge? Maybe the dropoff from 5 I could see, but I guess I dont see Viciedo being the huge step up from those guys. I know his age play an important role there, but I just have a real issue that a guy who is likely going to be a defensive liability anywhere he plays, if at all, also doesnt walk. I just think the odds of his power bat making up for both his inability to control the strike zone and the subpar fielding is low. Not that it doesn’t make him an intriguing prospect, but I guess I dont see the huge dropoff from him to the others.
You're a lot of woman, you know that? Yeah, wanna make 14 dollars the hard way?
yours is the sort of input i was looking for.
i’m more into grouping players instead of strict numerical rankings. one place where i have a group end is after viciedo. at this point, i’m far more sure that viciedo will actually be a contributing major leaguer when compared to the guys behind him. as for my wording, by precipitous i mean the real drop-off begins there and accelerates quickly. can be visualized as: \ . i like carter’s upside but he has some rather large question marks. link is almost ready to be tested but i’m not sure he’s legit yet and he’s probably a set-up man at best. and i have a lot of questions about hudson at the higher levels. ymmv about viciedo’s questions, which also can be described as numerous. i just like the fact that he’s now hitting the ball in AA as a 20 year and i believe the power will come next. i never thought he’d walk much and I’ll let the defense figure itself out. if we’re going to compare upside, the guy who is two years younger and is two levels higher wins hands down.
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I cannot dispute much of that
as I agree . . . Viciedo is clearly ahead of everyone else below him because of age and level. But, in the end, I really dont feel the step down is that large. I think the big step starts after Hudson/Carter with Link or Morel or whomever you would like to fill the last few spots because at that point, you could probably choose between 6-8 guys and make a decent case. However, admittedly, I am a bigger skeptic of Viciedo than most and I am probably a bigger proponent of Carter/Hudson than most . . . particularly Hudson and though I rated Carter higher below based on ‘stuff’ and ceiling . . . I really think Hudson is going to pan out and be a solid 3/4 starter for a while in the bigs.
You're a lot of woman, you know that? Yeah, wanna make 14 dollars the hard way?
sox machine reviews may for charlotte and birmingham
http://soxmachine.com/blogs/soxmachine/archive/2009/05/31/16246.aspx
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Gordon Beckham, 3B/SS, White Sox (Triple-A Charlotte)
Just when you think you have it all figured out and Beckham moves up to Triple-A and starts playing third base every day, he goes back to shortstop on Sunday. The organization’s plans for the 2008 first-round pick remain open to speculation, but at least Beckham continues to do his part by remaining an offensive force, going 7-for-15 with a pair of doubles in his first four International League games. It’s hard to figure just when he’s going to be in the big leagues, but with each passing day it seems the answer’s more on the side of sooner rather than later.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8984
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I think your top 10 list
is solid . . . even if you only took 3 minutes on it. I see the top 3 the same way and essentially had the same list with a few flipflops and Morel instead of Shelby, though I dont think there is really much of a difference there:
Beckham
Flowers
Poreda
Danks
Allen
Viciedo
Carter
Hudson
Morel
Link
You're a lot of woman, you know that? Yeah, wanna make 14 dollars the hard way?
isn't a lot of flowers' upside based on him being a catcher?
i know he has a ML bat, but wouldn’t that be very negated if/when he has to move to 1B?
the other thing I’m wondering is if that speaks something towards the confidence you have in poreda’s ability to develop adequate secondary pitches to become a quality starter
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
yes, yes, and, even though you didn't form it as a question, yes.
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Buddy Bell was on the Score
over the weekend and was very sure that Flowers was a ML catcher and was pleased with his progress as a receiver thus far. Spoke more to him having to work on calling a game, but it was generally very positive. As opposed to Viciedo at 3B, where he said improvements have been made, but he has ‘a long way to go there’.
That really cemented my thoughts that he is #2 . . . if that actually comes to fruition or he can somehow actually become adequate . . . then gasp, he might be #1 on this list over the savior.
Not sure if anyone else caught that on Sat afternoon, but it was good stuff.
You're a lot of woman, you know that? Yeah, wanna make 14 dollars the hard way?
beckham will no longer be a prospect at the point, if ever, you'd feel comfortable enough to say flowers was going to be a catcher.
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no doubt about that
I would be surprised if he qualified for any lists next year.
You're a lot of woman, you know that? Yeah, wanna make 14 dollars the hard way?
Surely you mean any lists
other than this list.
by The Actual El Guapo on Jun 1, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
he clearly starts off in the top 30. where he goes from there is gonna depend on future success.
Cashing checks and having sex.
they're afraid of morel.
0-3, IBB. not so afraid of marrero, the man hitting behind him: 0-3, HBP, SB.
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carter 7 IP, 7 hits, 3 BB, 7 K
kuhn 2-3, 2B BB, 2 SB (his 14th and 15th)
gilmore 2-4, 2B, HR.
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i wish the white sox could always play teams with shitty offenses.
angels, royals, As – makes the pitching staff almost look good.
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by larry on Jun 1, 2009 8:36 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
self-flag that post.
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by larry on Jun 1, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
i don't see how this relates to the minor league updates that this thread is specifically intended for.
Cashing checks and having sex.
Now my focus is all off. I don't know where I am anymore.
Yeah, surrre.
by homesickalien on Jun 2, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions
well you aren't in the Nancy Faust gamethread
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
Wait. I'm not?
I think it's funny to picture them as completely different characters. One is Big and one is Hairy. But neither are both.
by homesickalien on Jun 2, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
beckham back at third: 3-5, 2B and a bunt single.
link 2 IP, 3 hits, 0 BB, 3 K.
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danks 4-6, 2B, opposite field HR
flowers 2-5, 2B, BB
allen 2-5, IBB, CS
viciedo 2-4, BB, SB
shelby 1-4, BB
cj 2-5, 2B
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Oppo?
check that man for chin enhancements
by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 2, 2009 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Jordan will find himself in Goldstein's daily roundup
with a performance like that.
by Off the bus running on Jun 2, 2009 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions
silverio 2-5, HR, PO in his DSL debut.
jamie del valle, a 19 year old catcher from colombia, went 1-1 with 3 BB and 3 SB, including of home.
daurys mercedes, another 19 year old, started the game at SS and leading off, was 0-3, 2 BB, and pitched 5.1 IP, 3 hits, 2 BB, WP, 8 K.
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who? what?
Colon, who after pitching 5 scoreless innings, had to leave the game with an upset stomach.
that was a good way to get me to click the link
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interesting.
i know that it takes milb about twelve hours to get the box scores for the DSL games up (they start at 9:30 am) but, when i did the recap, d. mercedes was listed as pitching that. i guess the policy should be to wait until the morning on the DSL.
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sox machine recaps may for kanny and w-s
http://soxmachine.com/blogs/soxmachine/archive/2009/06/02/16271.aspx
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So larry, given AJ's contract situation
are the sox hoping Flowers will be able to step right in after AJ’s contract expires or maybe keep AJ around on a 1-2 dear and have Flowers spell him until they are certain he is ready? Thanks I’ll hang up and listen to your answer.
i don't really consider a raspberry from sliding into home an injury
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by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2009 9:29 AM CDT reply actions
i think the plan is to let AJ go at the end of his contract, if not trade him sooner in 2010 (circumstances dictating, of course)
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another perfect frame for remenowsky, with the usual K.
gilmore 3-5, 2 2B
greene 2-5, PO
kuhn 2-5
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beckham likes doubles
1-4, 2B. another throwing error, however.
contreras 6.2 IP, 3 hits, 4 BB, 3 K. 101 pitches, 63 strikes.
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if his range was iffy at SS
it would be worse at 3B
Colon, who after pitching 5 scoreless innings, had to leave the game with an upset stomach.
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by The Cheat on Jun 3, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
any idea on how Contreras's forkball is doing?
Colon, who after pitching 5 scoreless innings, had to leave the game with an upset stomach.
feels better, not as homesick
closer to Cuba
You're a lot of woman, you know that? Yeah, wanna make 14 dollars the hard way?
W-S lays down a beating.
too bad no prospects of note participated. morel 1-5.
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one reason for the beating
Watching one of the best hitting displays of the season were Buddy Bell, the Chicago White Sox’s director of player development, and Jeff Manto, the hitting coordinator for all of the White Sox’s minor-league teams. Both would have a hard time finding much wrong.
“Any time the coordinators are in town you want to play your best,” Gallagher said. “We get enough from Joe because he pushes us pretty hard, but it looks good when they are here and we hit like that.”
and if you think pro baseball is much different than little league:
Andy Dudones, the home-plate umpire, was struck in the right hand with a pitch from Eric Barrett of the Pelicans in the seventh inning and had to leave the game with a broken hand. Base umpire Will Little moved behind the plate to finish the game while Robert Marcial, a reserve infielder for the Pelicans, covered the bases as an umpire. When the Dash was in the field, outfielder Christian Marrero, who was out of the lineup last night, served as the base umpire.
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Just like Little League.
How quaint and cute.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
more on marrero's umpiring.
appears to have good technique.
http://bensbiz.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/06/it_is_happening_againit_is_hap.html
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did the DSL white sox really win 16-0?
we’ll know when the cheat checks the box score.
d. mercedes 2-5, 2B
silverio 1-5, 3B
del valle 1-2, BB.
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omogrosso hit hard.
4 IP, 6 hits, 6 BB, 4 K.
barons overhauled a five run deficit in the 9th and won it in the 10th on a viciedo single that scored allen after brandon was hit by a pitch.
danks 2-5
cj 1-6, 3B
flowers 2-5, BB
allen 3-5, HBP
viciedo 2-6
shelby 4-5, HR (grand slam which tied game in 9th)
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viciedo moved allen to third on a single,
gartrell drove allen in.
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Tyler Herron released from the Cardinals.
Looks like he strikes out a bunch of people.
i don't really consider a raspberry from sliding into home an injury
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by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 3, 2009 6:06 PM CDT reply actions
what passes for coverage of the knights in the local paper.
“The pitching’s a little more refined up here and there are more guys who know how to get you out," said Beckham, who’s also adjusting to a new position in the field, third base. He was a shortstop in college and for most of his games at Birmingham this season.
"I’m just trying to learn," he said. "I don’t make the decision (about playing in the big leagues), but I want to make it as hard as I can for someone to say I shouldn’t be there."
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/knights/story/42524.html
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DSL white sox continue to hit.
silverio 2-4, 3B, HR.
d. mercedes 0-3, 2 BB.
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beckham really likes doubles.
3-5, 2 2B.
cole armstrong 1-4, 2 K in what may be his last game in the organization.
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What is the reasoning
behind this being his last game? And they would keep Lucy over him?
You're a lot of woman, you know that? Yeah, wanna make 14 dollars the hard way?
Actually, no.
I understand keeping Corky because if you need someone tomorrow then neither Lucy or Armstrong are capable. But, I must be missing something with Lucy. The two followed similar paths as far as age and league are concerned . . . Offensively, Age 23 in both High A and Double AA, Armstrong outperformed, Age 24 in AA and AAA and that was probably a wash or slightly in Armstrong’s favor. From the defensive side, I thought they were both slighly above average, but I am less sure on that regarding Lucy, maybe that is the piece I am missing. To top it off, Armstong is exactly a year younger. I look forward and if T-Flo is the catcher of the future, who makes more sense as his caddie? . . . I will take the LH hitting catcher to pair with Flowers all things being equal . . . but, I dont even see things being equal. Certainly open to the counterpoint.
You're a lot of woman, you know that? Yeah, wanna make 14 dollars the hard way?
neither player has much, if any, of a major league future. and i would never, ever advocate either being anything more than a fleeting stopgap and certainly not someone to pair with flowers.
as for age, who cares. they’re both old already and doing absolutely nothing in AAA. at any rate, lucy is probably the better defender overall. if i’m looking at organizational depth, i’m not that concerned about AJ and i’m looking right at the injury-prone castro. if he gets hurts (assuming corky accepts), corky is the first choice. if corky shits the bed or gets hurt, i’d want lucy up (assuming death is not an option). if AJ goes down, platooning doesn’t matter because castro doesn’t have much of a split. so i’d simply want the best player around, if necessary. that’s lucy by a nose. what breaks the tie, outside of merit, is that lucy probably has more supporters in the organization. just ask rick hahn.
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fair enough
it really isnt much of a decision either way, I guess I was just a tad surprised as I would just side with Cole, but they have more info than I do.
You're a lot of woman, you know that? Yeah, wanna make 14 dollars the hard way?
infante 7 IP, 8 hits, 0 BB, WP, 8 K and a pickoff.
greene 2-3, BB, HBP, SB
kuhn 1-4, BB
gilmore 1-4, 2B, BB (doubled home the tying and winning runs in the ninth to cap a 5 run ninth inning comeback – someone was watching the barons game last night)
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sleepers awake
Continuing from last week’s look at the 2008 draft beyond the first round, let’s take a look at nine players drafted after the third round off to good starts in 2009, excluding players who signed for well over slot money. Jordan Danks, for example, is a seventh-round pick playing well, but he also cost $525,000. That’s going to be a bargain for the White Sox if Danks turns into any type of serviceable big leaguer, but the point here is to focus on some of the more under-the-radar picks.
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3. Dan Hudson, rhp, White Sox (5th round, 150th overall)
Hudson struck out 107 batters in 92 innings during his junior year at Old Dominion, but his 4.70 ERA was also his highest in three years with the Monarchs. His pro debut last year with Rookie-level Great Falls in the Pioneer League was promising, with Hudson flashing a lively fastball and an average slider to strike out 90 batters and walk 22 in 69 2/3 innings with a 3.36 ERA. Hudson, 22, didn’t need much time this year in low Class A, and his 1.23 ERA and 30-2 K-BB mark in 22 innings got him pushed quickly to high Class A Winston-Salem.
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9. Dexter Carter, rhp, White Sox (13th round, 390th overall)
It looks like Carter should be joining Hudson, his former college roommate and pro teammate last year at Great Falls, at some point soon in high Class A. Carter’s junior year was awful, as he gave up a run per inning and walked nearly a batter per inning. But some mechanical adjustments last year to get him to stride more directly to home plate helped Carter improve his control. After dominating with Hudson in the Pioneer League last year, the 22-year-old Carter now has a 3.86 ERA in low Class A with 77 strikeouts and 14 walks in 58 1/3 innings.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=4667
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What is the skill difference in low Class A and Class A,
and why are there 2 Class A’s? Thanks.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
more polished hitters. better plate discipline and so on. not a huge difference. usually the players have at least a year of full season ball under their belts.
as for why, first there’s more than two. i think it’s a mischaracterization to call the SAL ’ low Class A’. it’s class A. winston-salem is high (advanced) class A. the short season class As, like the new york penn league, are “low” Class A. but people throw the terms around however so it probably doesn’t matter. as for the reason why, i’ve got no idea how it started. probably wanted to stick with the A, AA, AAA progression but adding new levels. used to have class B, C, and D leagues so maybe that’s how those former leagues got shoe-horned in.
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corky miller accepts assignment to charlotte.
should be interesting to see how this three catcher situation plays out.
http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&cid=494&stn=true&sid=t494
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Would it make any sense to try to convert Lucy or Armstrong to a different position?
Or would that be too much of a total reboot this late in their careers?
I suppose the likely alternative is a change in employer for one of them.
It is very questionable either
will ever be able to hit enough to be a backup C in the show . . . and if you can’t hit as a catcher . . .
You're a lot of woman, you know that? Yeah, wanna make 14 dollars the hard way?
white sox minor league affiliates mourn loss of gordon beckham, postpone all games in remembrance.
well, except for the dominicans.
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silverio 2-5, HR.
d. mercedes 2-2, 2B, 2 BB
del valle 1-5.
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Silverio with another home run, is he still a prospect at all?
by Grinder in Training on Jun 5, 2009 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions
of course. nothing has changed about him, as far as i'm concerned.
he has the physical tools to play. maybe there was malfeasance regarding his bonus. big deal. it was $600K. the top prospects out of the DR get almost 10x that. maybe his age is fudged. but that risk was there when he signed and i don’t see how that has changed, either. the hype machine surrounding this guy was pretty ridiculous (phil rogers ranked him, what, #6 in the system?), i’m assuming because he is a SS and was the first guy the sox signed for any money out of the foreign market for awhile. and he shit the bed pretty badly at bristol. but he never should have been listed as anything more than an interesting prospect – even in the then piss poor white sox system i wouldn’t have had him in even a top 20 list. i mean, even giving the benefit of the doubt to everything, a raw 17 year old who hadn’t played in this country and was signed for “just” $600K? come on.
he’s interesting and i’ll cover him and the other two because they are also interesting. i’ll try to figure out if there are any pitchers (or other players) worth mentioning but i’m going to need quite a few games to even begin to figure that out. the DSL is very, very far away from the majors. the good prospects will play there and then go to rookie ball in the US the following season.
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egbert continues to thrive in his return to the rotation
6 IP, 5 hits, 1 BB, 6 K.
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hudson with a nice outing, his first one after a rough patch.
7 IP, 2 hits, 1 BB, 8 K.
marrero 1-2, BB, HR.
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Jordan Danks
Does he have an injury of sorts? Noticed he isn’t in the lineup for the 2nd straight game.
I’m unable to listen to the broadcast to get an update.
Same question.
Time to show Greg Walker the door.
silverio 2-3, 2B, BB
d. mercedes 2-4, 2 3B, BB.
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morel 1-3, drives in the winning run in the final frame of game 2 for the dash.
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poreda 6 IP, 3 hits, 5 BB, 7 K, WP.
shelby 2-4, 2B
cj 1-4
flowers 2-4, 2B
allen 0-4
viciedo 3-4, HR, CS
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