Jose Contreras Will Make Next Start
The White Sox kept their rotation intact so that Mark Buehrle will pitch Thursday night agianst Detroit and Jose Contreras will open the Texas series on Friday night.
"We talked about [skipping Contreras]," manager Ozzie Guillen said after Wednesday night's game was called nearly 90 minutes after the scheudled start. "We thought about it. We're going to show him another vote of confidence that we believe in him and he can still do it. Hopeuflly he'll notice that. I hope he takes advantage of the sitaution.
"I don't want to start moving people around and people miss turns, and all of a sudden have too many days off, too many breaks. Everyone should be the same way, and we'll see what happens."
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why no makeup tomorrow afternoon?
Forecast doesn’t seem that bad.
Formerly Crede's Crew
by Q!'s Qrew on May 6, 2009 9:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
because it's not the M's
and there are plenty of other opportunities to make up the game (and charge for it)
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by The Cheat on May 6, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough. thanks
Formerly Crede's Crew
by Q!'s Qrew on May 6, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Cheat (or anyone who watches a lot of games), in a recent article, you mentioned how you've come to like Nix's approach at the plate
I’m wondering what you think of BA’s approach thus far this season. What does it look like he’s changed in order to be come a passable major leaguer (before he went on the DL)?
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on May 7, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As for the substance of this post, what are ppl thinking about the decision?
Quite frankly, a skip may have been a help to Jose. I’m not sure
Formerly Crede's Crew
by Q!'s Qrew on May 6, 2009 9:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
seems they're giving him plenty of rope
possibly to hang himself with
BM: 'Oh, we've ruined millions of lives. They're just being babies about it." 8-Bit Theater
by Hazymania on May 6, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it could be exactly what theyre doing
they need him to keep pitching badly so it becomes easier to pull him from the rotation. skipping him would just prolong the inevitable
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart
by Jbasic89 on May 7, 2009 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's very satisfying to see gregg zaun smack - i mean, tag - carlos gomez in the face.
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by larry on May 6, 2009 10:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
are you just saying that because you like his website?
White Sox on pace to be shut out 32 times this year. woo!
by e-gus on May 7, 2009 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just voted Getz to the all star game.
once.
i didnt vote for anyone in either league in either position.
i suck - the sox dont - SSH2005
by BoeJouma on May 6, 2009 10:55 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
wasnt jerry owens on the ballot last year?
i wonder if he got double digit votes
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart
by Jbasic89 on May 7, 2009 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Recd
It's like he's a cyborg sent from the future to draw 22 walks a season or something.
by omnipotent grab on May 7, 2009 6:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did we ever find out who he was flipping off?
I must be an idiot
i do not get this where would he play stuff? I see you guys are making a big deal of this, but i do not know what you guys are talking about
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by JoeCoolMan24 on Aug 19, 2005 9:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on May 7, 2009 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the double barreled action.
I bust that out myself, once in a while, which makes me wonder if I truly am as big of a jagoff as Kerry Wood. ;)
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on May 7, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was demonstrating his Velocity
Hawk; "what would you do in that situation"
"id hit him" ;Stone
by Grinder Rule #42 on May 7, 2009 8:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
in which direction?
I must be an idiot
i do not get this where would he play stuff? I see you guys are making a big deal of this, but i do not know what you guys are talking about
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by JoeCoolMan24 on Aug 19, 2005 9:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on May 7, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
reinsdorf adding to his empire?
apparently he’s part of the group trying to keep the now bankrupt coyotes in phoenix.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/chi-07-reinsdorf-nhlmay07,0,7594520.story
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by larry on May 7, 2009 9:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
another lost opportunity
to have a tenant for our new empty arena (the sprint center) here in gay c i mean kc
Hawk; "what would you do in that situation"
"id hit him" ;Stone
by Grinder Rule #42 on May 7, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope tonight is not rained out
I got a padio party and game tix … should be good times
Lupe, release the balloons!
by LT_sox_fan on May 7, 2009 10:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
get the ribs
I must be an idiot
i do not get this where would he play stuff? I see you guys are making a big deal of this, but i do not know what you guys are talking about
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by JoeCoolMan24 on Aug 19, 2005 9:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on May 7, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they have ribs there? Damn! Definately getting that then!
Lupe, release the balloons!
by LT_sox_fan on May 7, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude
im crashing your patio party.
White Sox on pace to be shut out 32 times this year. woo!
by e-gus on May 7, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what about his padio party?
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on May 7, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh yea its like friggin gourmet food
no lie
I must be an idiot
i do not get this where would he play stuff? I see you guys are making a big deal of this, but i do not know what you guys are talking about
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by JoeCoolMan24 on Aug 19, 2005 9:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on May 8, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
manny ramirez suspended 50 games for PED usage
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by larry on May 7, 2009 10:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-manny-ramirez8-2009may08,0,6324894.story
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by larry on May 7, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hilarious
canseco guessed right again.
by Hatchetm on May 7, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it still guessing
When he continues to be right?
by Grinder in Training on May 7, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
canseco knew ramirez would test positive for a non-steroid in 2009?
what’s he saying about little lotto?
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by larry on May 7, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He claimed he used a performance enhancer previously, he got caught using one now. It doesn’t matter when he got caught. He claimed he did something previously, that he got caught doing now, doesn’t seem like a big leap of faith to believe he’s used previously and didn’t just start now.
by Grinder in Training on May 7, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what was it that canseco asserted about manny.
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by larry on May 7, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know if this is relevant, but Manny says:
Recently I saw a physician for a personal health issue. He gave me a medication, not a steroid, which he thought was OK to give me," Ramirez said. "Unfortunately, the medication was banned under our drug policy. Under the policy that mistake is now my responsibility. I have been advised not to say anything more for now.
"I do want to say one other thing; I’ve taken and passed about 15 drug tests over the past five seasons. I want to apologize to [Dodgers owner Frank] McCourt, Mrs. McCourt, [manager Joe] Torre, my teammates, the Dodger organization, and to the Dodger fans. LA is a special place to me and I know everybody is disappointed. So am I. I’m sorry about this whole situation."
(So maybe the second paragraph indicates he didn’t pass the ’03 test?)
Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...
by Chiburb on May 7, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a few guesses as to this mystery "personal health issue"
1) he was prescribed medical marajuana
2) he was having problems in the sack, and the boner pills tested positive for something
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on May 7, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That he (Canseco) was 90% sure Manny was on the list of 100 or so that got caught in '03
Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...
by Chiburb on May 7, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the lack of question mark meant i knew.
that’s a chicken shit statement if i ever saw it. “90% sure” regarding a matter unrelated to this.
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by larry on May 7, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry, been away for a couple of weeks.
Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...
by Chiburb on May 7, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't that be covering his ass so that he can't be sued?
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on May 7, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wouldn't that be covering his ass so that, no matter what, he can say he was right or that he wasn't wrong.
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by larry on May 7, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point.
Canseco is a douche.
Serious question, if Canseco had come out and said he was 100% sure, could he have be sued for lible (sp?)?
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on May 7, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no.
you can pretty much say/write whatever you want in this country, especially if it’s opinion as saying “i’m sure” (read: my opinion) certainly is.
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by larry on May 7, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying he isn't a douche..
Just saying it’s not like the name’s mentioned haven’t shown up as drug users.
by Grinder in Training on May 7, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
please name any high profile player who hasn't been accused.
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by larry on May 7, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
high profile
not wide profile
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on May 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he did it on purpose, know why?
Because (in his head) he now gets a 50 day vacation, similar to all the bs injuries he takes off for.
I must be an idiot
i do not get this where would he play stuff? I see you guys are making a big deal of this, but i do not know what you guys are talking about
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by JoeCoolMan24 on Aug 19, 2005 9:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on May 7, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i sincerely doubt that
"I am amazed we’re as high as 17th in the baserunning metric, and can’t even imagine what Atlanta must be doing to be graded that much worse — seriously, do they just swing then roam randomly around the infield oblivious of the concept of the "base"?." -TAEG
by U-God on May 7, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cuz tarnishing your legacy and losing millions of dollars in the process is totally worth a 50 game "vacation"
"I am amazed we’re as high as 17th in the baserunning metric, and can’t even imagine what Atlanta must be doing to be graded that much worse — seriously, do they just swing then roam randomly around the infield oblivious of the concept of the "base"?." -TAEG
by U-God on May 7, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
8 million to be exact
Hawk; "what would you do in that situation"
"id hit him" ;Stone
by Grinder Rule #42 on May 7, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its just stanzanol being stanzanol.
thecip is now dead inside.
by thecip on May 7, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, does that leave no competitors for Big Hurt as the best non drug using right handed hitter in his era?
by Grinder in Training on May 7, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing
We obviously don’t know the truth (though I’d put money on Frank) but this stuff continues to make him look that much better.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by Tdogg on May 7, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
money that he was clean
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by Tdogg on May 7, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The days of wondering will he or won’t he make the hall of fame are long gone at least. DH or not, shouldn’t be an issue the way these other guys have dropped like flies around him.
It’s a shame he didn’t get to play on an even playing field, assuming he was clean as his reputation and stance against the PED’s would make you think. Would have been interesting to see just how good his numbers would look.
by Grinder in Training on May 7, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not one who engages in deep debate about HoF worthiness but Manny is a HoFer even with this on his record.
by CWSKeith on May 7, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
It just puts Frank in a better light everytime someone else gets caught. Assuming ARod didn’t tip pitches he’s still a hall of famer too.
by Grinder in Training on May 7, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PAUL KONERKO
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on May 7, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's only on antidepressants.
thecip is now dead inside.
by thecip on May 7, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Being In Q's Aura" technically constitutes a PED, I believe.
by The Actual El Guapo on May 7, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
lol!
rec’d!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on May 7, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and high of popularity
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on May 7, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
50 games - what a fucking outrage
I can’t believe one of the most iconic figures in MLB has been treated so shabbily. A small fine or even better a donation to Ramirez’ charity of choice would have been more than appropriate for such a minor indiscretion.
I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.
by hoodlight on May 7, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No you don't understand, you're not reading the script. You're supposed to feign moral indignation at Manny for this, shouting at the top of your lungs that Manny should have his children taken away AND be placed in a maximum security prison cell
only for baseball players, though. If an NFL player did this it’s forgiveable and we can assume that he meant well.
by CWSKeith on May 7, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
rec'd.
I like to spell my racial slurs correctly. Otherwise, I may come across as ignorant.
by homesickalien on May 7, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and what if was a european soccer player or a professional athlete?
I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.
by hoodlight on May 7, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was a joke
he should be banned for a year minimum, two years is more appropriate. Every time these stories come up the standing of MLB is dragged into the gutter, no matter how you think PEDS affect a players performance. When I say I like baseball to people here, a pat response is ‘those funny guys who are all on steroids’, and this is just more fuel for the fire.
I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.
by hoodlight on May 7, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and football players don't take steroids??
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on May 7, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
some do - but they get banned for 12 months if caught
I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.
by hoodlight on May 7, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shawne Merriman?
He got caught and only missed 4 games.
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
by BoKnows on May 7, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can't be a ueafa player
must be US, Rio Ferdinand got banned for 2 3rds of a season for missing a drugs test, he didn’t even take the fucking thing.
I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.
by hoodlight on May 7, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A quarter of a season
The equivalent of missing 40 games in baseball.
by joewho112 on May 7, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or if a bodybuilder did this he could become governor of a large state!
Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...
by Chiburb on May 7, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Latest update from Will Carroll on BP Unfiltered:
“UPDATE 3: Ramirez’s statement issued through the MLBPA indicates that Ramirez will not appeal his suspension and that he received the banned substance from a doctor. Ramirez was suspended under section 8.G.2 of the Joint Drug Agreement, which is "other." In his statement, there’s no clear statement that Ramirez ever tested positive. Combined, those two facts point to a non-testable drug, but this is not confirmed. The only other known 8.G.2 suspension was Jordan Schaefer.”
by The Actual El Guapo on May 7, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just a matter of time before Thome's name pops up.
the entire mid 90’s indians, should have been wrestlers instead.
I must be an idiot
i do not get this where would he play stuff? I see you guys are making a big deal of this, but i do not know what you guys are talking about
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by JoeCoolMan24 on Aug 19, 2005 9:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on May 7, 2009 11:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you know the next big name to drop, right?
jose valentin.
by Hatchetm on May 7, 2009 11:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
selig should resign
I must be an idiot
i do not get this where would he play stuff? I see you guys are making a big deal of this, but i do not know what you guys are talking about
AIM: JoeCoolMan24 www.2ksports.com/forums Thats where i spend most of my day
by JoeCoolMan24 on Aug 19, 2005 9:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on May 7, 2009 11:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hmmm.
maybe. not sure why he should be blamed for jose contreras not being effective, though.
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by larry on May 7, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, i see what you're getting at.
selig should resign because he shouldn’t have used his discretion to suspend manny. he should be turning a blind eye to PED usage in baseball. makes perfect sense now.
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by larry on May 7, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's suggesting that Selig should resign because
he wasn’t monitoring what substances Manny was putting into his body.
by joewho112 on May 7, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh.
but it seems like selig was extremely vigilant at monitoring manny considering manny is being suspended for a non-testable drug.
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by larry on May 7, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if it's a non-testable drug, then how did he test positive?
Do you know what it was? I didn’t see it named in the LA Times article.
I can’t tell if you’re trying to SoB WTGTD or if you’re being serious. (I’m filling in for WU today)
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on May 7, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HGH would be a prime candidate.
and a prescription from a doctor is pretty strong documentary evidence.
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by larry on May 7, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gotcha
as I mentioned before, my guesses were medical marajuana or boner pills.
I suppose HGH might be more reasonable ;)
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on May 7, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's already been said it was a PED.
pretty sure bud selig doesn’t consider marijuana a PED.
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by larry on May 7, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well then, Bud doesn't know jack about pot!
It’s been helping musicans and writers for centuries, and it’s done wonders for snowboarders since 1998
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on May 7, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and don't forget players in the NBA!
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on May 7, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point OSFIB, I forgot about the Portland Trailblazers of 2000
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on May 7, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who was quoted to saying this in 2001?
“You got guys out there playing high every night. You got 60% of your league on marijuana. What can you do?”
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on May 7, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fergie Jenkins?
Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...
by Chiburb on May 7, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OAK!!
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on May 7, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"If it ain't broke, don't break it"
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on May 7, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, I should have know the guy was old school
Oakley was great.
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on May 7, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going with Sprewell
but it really could have been any number of players
Brian Grant
Damon Stoudamire
Ron Santo
Johnny Bench
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on May 7, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Charles Barkley
I must be an idiot
i do not get this where would he play stuff? I see you guys are making a big deal of this, but i do not know what you guys are talking about
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by JoeCoolMan24 on Aug 19, 2005 9:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on May 7, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
in addition to many, many others
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on May 7, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Michael Phelps
Hawk; "what would you do in that situation"
"id hit him" ;Stone
by Grinder Rule #42 on May 7, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't forget
it helps you win Olympic gold, and it helps you become the president of the us
by soxshenanigans on May 7, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because the intergity of the game was lost
under his watch.
I must be an idiot
i do not get this where would he play stuff? I see you guys are making a big deal of this, but i do not know what you guys are talking about
AIM: JoeCoolMan24 www.2ksports.com/forums Thats where i spend most of my day
by JoeCoolMan24 on Aug 19, 2005 9:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on May 7, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because the amphetamine users, alcoholics and racists of past generations were busting with intergrity
by joewho112 on May 7, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, we should not hold Bud to any standards?
I must be an idiot
i do not get this where would he play stuff? I see you guys are making a big deal of this, but i do not know what you guys are talking about
AIM: JoeCoolMan24 www.2ksports.com/forums Thats where i spend most of my day
by JoeCoolMan24 on Aug 19, 2005 9:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on May 7, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We shouldn't pretend the game had any integrity left to lose
Let’s remember it’s grown men playing a children’s game. Get your integrity fix some place else
by joewho112 on May 7, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's wall-to-wall Manny news out here
Shock. Dismay. Peanuts. Popcorn.
by RoyEgan on May 7, 2009 12:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
At least this means less talk about Favre
by joewho112 on May 7, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point.
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on May 7, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
manny's just release statement
"Recently I saw a physician for a personal health issue. He gave me a
medication, not a steroid, which he thought was okay to give me.
Unfortunately, the medication was banned under our drug policy. Under the
policy that mistake is now my responsibility. I have been advised not to say
anything more for now. I do want to say one other thing; I’ve taken and
passed about 15 drug tests over the past five seasons.
"I want to apologize to Mr. McCourt, Mrs. McCourt, Mr. Torre, my teammates,
the Dodger organization, and to the Dodger fans. LA is a special place to me
and I know everybody is disappointed. So am I. I’m sorry about this whole
situation." – Manny Ramirez
by RoyEgan on May 7, 2009 12:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what's the physician's name and his home's mailing address?
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on May 7, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, yeah, I want some too!
Thank you Jesus!
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on May 7, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah, i was thinking psycho fan terrorist shit like mailbombs yo
i’m just saying that manny is bringing a lot of scrutiny to this unnamed (as of yet) physician now
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on May 7, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point, he is pretty much blaming him for getting suspended.
I must be an idiot
i do not get this where would he play stuff? I see you guys are making a big deal of this, but i do not know what you guys are talking about
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by JoeCoolMan24 on Aug 19, 2005 9:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on May 7, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah, i was thinking psycho fan terrorist shit like mailbombs yo
i’m just saying that manny is bringing a lot of scrutiny to this unnamed (as of yet) physician now
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on May 7, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so nice you posted twice
If by mailbombs you mean sending the guy poop in a bag, I would be game ;) Then again, I think poop in a bag would be funny to send to just about anyone.
Which reminds me, what’s your address again? ;)
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on May 7, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, we should trade each other mixes man, and then trash each other's taste in music on the next music thread
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on May 7, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just going to send you a bag of poop, but I guess I can include a cd or two ;)
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on May 7, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mix of celine dion songs = bag of poop
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on May 7, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. My first migraine in 10 years this morning. My computer crashes at work and after 2 years of complaining that I have a POS, I am finally getting a new one this afternoon.
And now Manny.
HOLYSHITWHATTADAY!
I like to spell my racial slurs correctly. Otherwise, I may come across as ignorant.
by homesickalien on May 7, 2009 12:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
POS: piece of sand?
Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...
by Chiburb on May 7, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, you old piece of sand!
I like to spell my racial slurs correctly. Otherwise, I may come across as ignorant.
by homesickalien on May 7, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a good feeling right? I got an upgrade when I went from Summer Associate to Full timer
Good day indeed…mainly b/c the other ppl in the office stopped making fun of my shitty computer
Formerly Crede's Crew
by Q!'s Qrew on May 7, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, we've moved on to making fun of your haircut
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on May 7, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great feeling. I have an even better event of this day that I almost just want to fanpost about....because it is THAT good...and a lesson for all us interneters to learn.
Maybe later this evening during the game…
Pure gold.
I like to spell my racial slurs correctly. Otherwise, I may come across as ignorant.
by homesickalien on May 7, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you find that one website that has funny pictures of cats saying funny things that they could not really be saying because they are cats but that are funny anyway?
by The Actual El Guapo on May 7, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never heard of it. But I'd love the link! :P
I like to spell my racial slurs correctly. Otherwise, I may come across as ignorant.
by homesickalien on May 7, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Source: Ramirez’s substance a sexual enhancer
LOS ANGELES – A source close to Manny Ramirez(notes) said Thursday that the illegal substance for which the Los Angeles Dodgers slugger tested positive was not "an agent customarily used for performance enhancing."
At least not on the baseball diamond. The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the substance is supposed to boost sex drive. It is not Viagra, but a substance that treats the cause rather providing a temporary boost in sexual performance, the source said.
Ramirez tested positive for the substance during spring training, then was administered a second test more recently, and it also was positive. Major League Baseball notified Ramirez of the second positive test after Wednesday night’s Dodgers victory over the Washington Nationals. Ramirez admitted to having taken the substance and declined to appeal. His 50-game suspension begins today.
"The substance is not a steroid and it is not human-growth hormone," the source said.
Ramirez, the source said, acquired the substance through a prescription from a doctor in Miami for his medical condition. The source intimated that Ramirez might bring legal action against the physician.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ys-ramirezsuspension050709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on May 7, 2009 1:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
More Carroll on BP Unfiltered:
“UPDATE 4: Give T.J. Quinn the points: He gets the scoop that the drug Ramirez was suspended for was HCG (human chorionic gonadotropin.) Simply put, it boosts testosterone.”
Seems like it would have been more efficient just to hang out with BA for a few nights, but I’m no doctor.
by The Actual El Guapo on May 7, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why should manny be persecuted if he can't get it up
that ain’t right!
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on May 7, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From The Source of All Knowledge
“Typical uses for hCG in men include hypogonadism and fertility treatment.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_chorionic_gonadotropin
Might have just been trying to have more kids — who knows.
by The Actual El Guapo on May 7, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hypogonadism aka MacDougalitis
thecip is now dead inside.
by thecip on May 7, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's scary to find out that guy has 3 kids
I suppose he’s much different at home than on the field, but I can’t see him actually caring for a child in an appropriate manner if I judge him from his on the field “laziness” and antics.
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on May 7, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the fact that no one caught taking PED's is ever guilty, it's always some unknown medicine that has caused the failed test
I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.
by hoodlight on May 7, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe that I may have been right on the whole sexual performance enhancer
fucking hilarious. I would have preferred it to be cialis or viagra, but I can’t describe how funny this is.
Of course, this was just a cheap way to increase testosterone levels, which steroids also accomplish, so it isn’t like he didn’t know what he was doing.
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on May 7, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this PED thing on here and you lot
doesn’t half make me laugh – yeah so what some of the accusers are hypocrites so that makes it a good thing does it? but you do know that sports fans in Europe think that MLB is played by juiced up no marks.
Maybe you are happy with this situation, if so then don’t start fucking moaning when the likes of manny fucking ramirez is caught cheating.
I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.
by hoodlight on May 7, 2009 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
how many pints have you tipped back tonight hoody?
by Hatchetm on May 7, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
5 or six and a couple of mojhitos?
I’m still right though, how can you expect to broaden the appeal of the sport when it’s major stars are continually caught with playing with the chemistry set?
I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.
by hoodlight on May 7, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're right. easier to just hide it like the europeans do.
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
by larry on May 7, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and your supporting evidence?
I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.
by hoodlight on May 7, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
drug testing in european football is a joke.
if you prefer the blind eye, that’s fine. but pretending like “your” sports are oh so clean is silly.
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
by larry on May 7, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's far more rigorous than MLB
you get suspended for missing a test ffs, it’s not a joke at all
I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.
by hoodlight on May 7, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll tell you what the biggest joke of all is
it’s when the icons of the sport that you love are exposed to be fucking cheats time and time again. If you’re happy with that situation then fair enough.
I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.
by hoodlight on May 7, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as per usual
the general public is retarded. the players, league, union lawyers, media outlets made a ton of $$ due to PEDs. everyone wanted to sweep it under the rug.
by Hatchetm on May 7, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we are talking about a positive test yesterday not 6 years ago
I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.
by hoodlight on May 7, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
please tell us more.
since you have such great knowledge about mlb drug testing, like how a player can fail to show up for tests and it’s totally fine. you guys are really smart for closing that loophole – we must be a bunch of dumbfucks over here for not figuring that one out.
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
by larry on May 7, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you appear to have responded to a post that I haven't made
and I thought you were so smart
I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.
by hoodlight on May 7, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's paid $300/hour to argue, not pass IQ exams.
Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...
by Chiburb on May 7, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, you got me nailed. you just assert that "it's far more rigorous than mlb"
and cite as evidence for that assertion that “you get suspended for missing a test.” flawless.
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
by larry on May 7, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
errrmm
MLB player misses dope test = x
Manny Ramirez tests positive for PEDS = 50 game ban
Rio Ferdinand misses dope test = 8 months ban
Borja Criado tests positive for hair loss drug = no football for two years.
now you are right, I don’t know what x is, I’m so fucking stupid, please tell me it’s not the electric chair.
I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.
by hoodlight on May 7, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
missed test is a positive test.
and ramirez is getting suspended for a drug he took to fuck better. not sure if that’s better or worse than a hair loss drug.
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
by larry on May 7, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the hair loss thing was his defence much like manny and his impotence thing
we all know that it’s bollocks
I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.
by hoodlight on May 7, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
most likely.
but which defense do you want to be trying to say with a straight face?
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
by larry on May 7, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
makes you wonder whether it was worth it
I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.
by hoodlight on May 7, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
perhaps not for criado since he's kind of rubbish.
but manny makes a lotta money.
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
by larry on May 7, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s also used as part of a cycling process for PED’s, it has more then one purpose.
by Grinder in Training on May 7, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, we know that it's likely a cover.
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
by larry on May 7, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how bout the time
they went to ichiro for a piss test and he disappeared for two hours before producing a sample?
by Hatchetm on May 7, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't know what you're referring to.
but i’m not arguing that the mlb system is pristine. riding in on your european high horse to tell us how terrible our sport is, however, smacks of silliness.
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
by larry on May 7, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm just askin, cuz i don't know..
but do they test in the 5 month offseason. do they go to all the foreign countries and knock on doors?
by Hatchetm on May 7, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was certainly proposed last fall:
Players’ chiefs have served notice that they will fight plans for the Premier League’s top stars to be tested for drug use in their own homes.
The Professional Footballers’ Association (PFA) claim the plan would be “an invasion of privacy”.
Under the World Anti-Doping Association’s (WADA) new code, a pool of 30 elite players will be forced to undergo up to five tests a year – not including those carried out after matches.
The move is to bring sportsmen such as footballers into line with Olympic athletes, who must provide details on their location for an hour each day, including holidays. PFA chief executive Gordon Taylor said the players’ union opposed some of the new regulations.
Taylor said: "We feel that to invade the privacy of a player’s home would be a step too far. If we complain about anything to do with drug-testing then people think we might have something to hide, but football’s record is extremely good and there has been a virtual absence of any performance-enhancing drugs, and that goes back decades.
An FA spokesman said: “The introduction of a national testing pool in each country is a requirement of the WADA code, but there are still discussions to be had between the FA and UK Sport on the size, composition and testing requirements for English football’s pool.”
The FA’s drug-testing programme is the biggest in British sport, with 1,600 tests conducted every season.
Andy Parkinson, UK Sport’s head of operations for a drug-free sport, insisted the new rules were not aimed at making life difficult for footballers but trying to “protect their sport”.
“Players have licence to take anything they want in the summer as they disappear off our radar,” he said.
Anti-drug testers currently pick two players at random for a urine sample after every match. Among those punished for drug offences in the past have been former Chelsea goalkeeper Mark Bosnich, sacked by the club and awarded a nine-month ban in 2003 after testing positive for cocaine.
Another Chelsea player, Adrian Mutu, was also suspended by the FA for seven months in 2004 after failing a drugs test.
The FA confirmed they will still be able to ban players for cocaine use in the future, even if the test is out of competition.
The FA spokesman added: "Under the WADA prohibited list, cocaine is only prohibited in competition. However, the FA’s social drugs programme, also supported by UK Sport, goes beyond the WADA code in also prohibiting players from taking social drugs out of competition.
“This is borne out of a belief that footballers should be drug-free at all times. “Under our doping control regulations, a positive out-of-competition test for a social drug such as cocaine can, and does, result in a ban of up to six months for a first offence.”
Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...
by Chiburb on May 7, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
euros are into blood doping
use the Tour De France as your example…
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I must be an idiot
i do not get this where would he play stuff? I see you guys are making a big deal of this, but i do not know what you guys are talking about
AIM: JoeCoolMan24 www.2ksports.com/forums Thats where i spend most of my day
by JoeCoolMan24 on Aug 19, 2005 9:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on May 7, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-41906-4.html#backToArticle=621414
Hawk; "what would you do in that situation"
"id hit him" ;Stone
by Grinder Rule #42 on May 7, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because most of the younger audience is playing with a set too?
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/04/27/090427fa_fact_talbot
Btw, some of these drugs sound ideal for replacing amphetemines (which were banned by MLB too). Certainly the Sox hitters should be exploring these.
Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...
by Chiburb on May 7, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i read that
this world is so fucked up.
by Hatchetm on May 7, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed. Though I'm tempted to suggest HSA read it...
;-)
Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...
by Chiburb on May 7, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the line "adults using Adderall have reported serious cardiac problems, though the role of the drug in those cases is unknown"
right after they talk about Adderall being an amphetamine. Fucking classic doubletalk. Assholes.
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on May 7, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For certain.
Your statement works on so many levels. Just the tone of the article is fucked up, painting the story as something other than drug addiction, and then the content where people are self prescribing “stacks” and generally acting as if this stuff is no big deal.
For a bit of background, those stacker 2 pills that many people were popping a few years back were a great combination of two stimulants, one of which has serious health effects when taken by someone whose body is under stress, and a pain killer to dull your senses should you begin to feel any ill effects for the nasty stimulant combination.
“Stacking” drugs is fucking retarded because, unless you’re a pharmacist or an excellent physician, you more than likely have no idea what the fuck you are doing. Kiddies take note.
End rant.
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on May 7, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I kept thinking as I read the article...
Wouldn’t beta-blockers achieve the same resultant “focus” and clarity?
Without the speed effect?
Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...
by Chiburb on May 7, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so these would help cure hangovers?
sweet!
I must be an idiot
i do not get this where would he play stuff? I see you guys are making a big deal of this, but i do not know what you guys are talking about
AIM: JoeCoolMan24 www.2ksports.com/forums Thats where i spend most of my day
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by Where Triples Go to Die on May 7, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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