Carlos Quentin not expected back before All-Star break; Still is not stretching enough

cool beans

by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 10, 2009 4:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

cowley

If the Sox are out of it post All-Star, Guillen said why should they put Quentin out there.

Quentin wants to be back before All-Star Break, but Oz said very unlikely. There is a chance he could be shut down rest of year.

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by larry on Jun 10, 2009 4:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm very close to punting on this season.

Watching the lineup we trot out there on a daily basis is slow torture.

by dantesox on Jun 10, 2009 4:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

If I weren't so competitive by nature, I'd probably say, "punting unit."

Maybe I just need to see us get 8 or more back first. Fuck.

by dantesox on Jun 10, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

if you're so competitive, why don't you get your ass in there and stretch quentin's foot and craft some orthotics for him. and tell him to man the fuck up already.

if you’re not doing that, sounds like you’re saying punting unit.

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by larry on Jun 10, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’ve known some running friends who did run through it and endure some incredible pain. I myself did as well years ago with shin splints. I can’t get in Carlos’ skin or head and I’m by no means labeling him as weak, but I truly have seen it first hand where people have competed at a high level with PF. That’s why I’ve said what I did earlier.

by dantesox on Jun 10, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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by larry on Jun 10, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs

Rec'd.

by The Actual El Guapo on Jun 10, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is fantastic.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 10, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i agree, for a larry smackdown this takes the cake

Always bet on black!

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jun 11, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

there are two problems here.

1.Shin splints are not a torn tendon. PF is not a torn tendon.

2. Running does not require the stopping and starting and standing necessary in this sport. While it may be possible to focus through the pain in running, playing baseball at a high level with the sprinting and batting and all that shit is pretty hard when you have an injury bothering you as severe as this. It is different, and I don’t want him out there if he isn’t going to be productive and won’t heal up anyway.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 10, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Those are good points.

by dantesox on Jun 10, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

that’s the real issue. it sounds like this is much more serious than previously assumed. or at least different.

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by colintj on Jun 10, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

regarding one, PF is certainly a tear in the ligament (who knows if quentin or gonzales were using proper terms of if they're talking about something else)

second, what does a popping sound, which quentin said he heard, usually indicate? this wasn’t exactly difficult to diagnose as a rather big problem.

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by larry on Jun 10, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

didn't we take it at the time as something nagging and long lasting?

this sounds (and who knows what the hell Gonzalez meant, he’s not a health professional, obvs) different. something tore and needs time to heal and playing in the meantime is simply not feasible. before, it was just a matter of adjusting to pain and orthotics.

either way, Will Carroll will weigh in eventually.

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by colintj on Jun 10, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

isn't larry will carroll's secretary?

Always bet on black!

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jun 11, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

As far as PF being a tear in the ligament

I wasn’t aware, but really it shouldn’t matter. This is a new ballgame— there’s certainly a difference aesthetically between “nagging injury he’ll have to deal with all season,” and “torn tendon, out for a month and a half, maybe all year.”

by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 10, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really, STFU.

It’s not in his head. May I repeat myself, at the risk of being redundant:

IT’S NOT IN HIS HEAD. IT’S IN HIS FOOT.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 10, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not going to say that this is a death sentence

but it is damn close. I would be very surprised at this point for them to come back strong.

The last two days have been a knife in the heart of the season.

I hate to say it, but Quentin may be our Wood/Prior.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 10, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You know who's captain of the fucking punting unit?

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by The Cheat on Jun 10, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

DO NOT WANT

Chicago White Sox Examiner — Your what hurts?

by UribeAuction on Jun 10, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fire Sale Impending

KW: if the team doesn’t pick it up hard decisions will have to be made. That’s basically what he just said.
10 minutes ago from txt

http://twitter.com/cst_sox/status/2108911698

by Steven Andrew Miller on Jun 10, 2009 5:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Dye and Dotel are likely candidates

Jenks, too?

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by UribeAuction on Jun 10, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i would guess jenks too yes

maybe thome and richard as well

Banned - by The Cheat on Sep 25, 2008 10:17 PM CDT

by BoeJouma on Jun 10, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

KW will also be looking to add good contracts

so i would also think Richard, Allen, maybe JorDanks (dn what the org thinks of him…), and Poreda will be available for the right pieces.

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by colintj on Jun 10, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know.

This isn’t the time to be buying. Good contracts like the ones you’re talking about are just too valuable and we just don’t have enough ammo.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 10, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

KW doesn't tend to go after that which that everyone covets.

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by colintj on Jun 10, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

also, keep in mind what McLouth and Peavy cost.

it’s not a high price.

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by colintj on Jun 10, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Followed by "analysis" that said "the 30 games or so leading to the AS break"

Maybe fire at some point, but for now he’s just playing with matches.

The City of Chicago, led by Mayor Daley and a vast and tumorous army of aldermen and bagmen and yesmen and opportunists and spineless, parasitic political-machine halfwits of forms never seen outside the roiling cesspool of governmental slop-trough greed, has proven itself unworthy of something as potentially delicious and fulfilling as the 2016 Olympic Games.
- Rick Telander

by Chiburb on Jun 10, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I knew the PF wasn't a big enough deal to put him on the dl!

/ducks

by Trooper on Jun 10, 2009 5:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i hope the term "punting unit" becomes popular around here

it works for a number of reasons.

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by colintj on Jun 10, 2009 5:14 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

No shit. +1

The City of Chicago, led by Mayor Daley and a vast and tumorous army of aldermen and bagmen and yesmen and opportunists and spineless, parasitic political-machine halfwits of forms never seen outside the roiling cesspool of governmental slop-trough greed, has proven itself unworthy of something as potentially delicious and fulfilling as the 2016 Olympic Games.
- Rick Telander

by Chiburb on Jun 10, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

More

KW said Ozzie’s timetable on Quentin is off, and the outfielder should be back quicker than Guillen thinks.

KW and Fields talked. Kenny GM offered very little details. Make that no details.

Link

by DirtySox on Jun 10, 2009 5:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

"Draft is going exactly like my six-round mock draft predicted."

did he even post a mock draft?

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by colintj on Jun 10, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

sarcasm

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by The Cheat on Jun 10, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he's allowed to use that?

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by colintj on Jun 10, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just don't seem to be our year, do it?

by The Actual El Guapo on Jun 10, 2009 5:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

let's be honest

we were banking on them having everything go right like last year. Those optimistic, anyway. The organization left little room for sucktitude(Contreras, Colon, BA, Fields, Getz) and injury(Quentin… can’t bear to call him Q right now.) In hindsight, it was a mistake. They got rid of guys who they grew tired of and we’re reaping the benefits.

But hey, we have the best bullpen.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 10, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Getz has had problems too

broken finger, knackered ankle, virus, he’s not had an extended run when he’s been fully fit. His promotion to MLB has had fitness issues that have prevented an extended healthy run on the team.

by hoodlight on Jun 10, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed.

The City of Chicago, led by Mayor Daley and a vast and tumorous army of aldermen and bagmen and yesmen and opportunists and spineless, parasitic political-machine halfwits of forms never seen outside the roiling cesspool of governmental slop-trough greed, has proven itself unworthy of something as potentially delicious and fulfilling as the 2016 Olympic Games.
- Rick Telander

by Chiburb on Jun 10, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Id say though

almost everything has gone wrong to this point and yet. Oh fuck not superman…………………….

"I'm just here to provide street cred"

by Tdogg on Jun 10, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

this kind of thing really pisses me off

the best players in your team should never get injured – I blame the medical staff

by hoodlight on Jun 10, 2009 5:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

:(

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jun 10, 2009 5:49 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs

You are almost as good as larry.

No Godfather ref. So you are 1A.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 10, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

At what point is Q considered injury prone?

Shoulder, hand, foot. Equal opportunity patient.

Shaq was able to get through PF in a few months after putting off surgery a few months so he could enjoy his off-season.

by Duck99 on Jun 10, 2009 5:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

he's been considered injury prone, iirc

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by colintj on Jun 10, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

if he was a horse - they would take him out the back and shoot him

no matter how good he is when he plays – what are we looking at 50 games? plus or minus 15?

Durability is a big part of being a player who adds value – at the moment he’s adding nothing.

by hoodlight on Jun 10, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

damn, helps us win the division crown and now you want to shoot the son of a bitch

Always bet on black!

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jun 11, 2009 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

no.

if he were a horse, they would not shoot him because it would be really fucking stupid to shoot something from which you can make millions in stud fees. if you were a horse, on the other hand, they would shoot you.

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by larry on Jun 11, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

if horseracing had any ethics

he’d be destroyed.

by Hatchetm on Jun 11, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

of course, had his legal transgressions occurred ~200 years ago his people would have sent him to australia. or he would have been hanged.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Jun 11, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm starting to think Quentin is a DH

maybe as soon as next year.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 10, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's 27?

I wouldn’t give up yet. But I’m learning the words.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 10, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

fuqstiqs.

This hurts.

Yeah...surrre.

by homesickalien on Jun 10, 2009 6:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Man up, son.

The City of Chicago, led by Mayor Daley and a vast and tumorous army of aldermen and bagmen and yesmen and opportunists and spineless, parasitic political-machine halfwits of forms never seen outside the roiling cesspool of governmental slop-trough greed, has proven itself unworthy of something as potentially delicious and fulfilling as the 2016 Olympic Games.
- Rick Telander

by Chiburb on Jun 10, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It hurts so much when you were so close to a WS in '09.

Plus we are Obama’s team.

by Ahillock on Jun 10, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dad, I'm not a boy.

Still.

Yeah...surrre.

by homesickalien on Jun 10, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm sad.

As crappy as we have played, I was hoping something good would come out of the season and we could hang in there. I think it is time for a sale.

by Ahillock on Jun 10, 2009 6:07 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

Don't worry, everyone gets a trophy for having played.

The City of Chicago, led by Mayor Daley and a vast and tumorous army of aldermen and bagmen and yesmen and opportunists and spineless, parasitic political-machine halfwits of forms never seen outside the roiling cesspool of governmental slop-trough greed, has proven itself unworthy of something as potentially delicious and fulfilling as the 2016 Olympic Games.
- Rick Telander

by Chiburb on Jun 10, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's time to go grab an outfield bat.

I just don’t see the point in gutting the farm for a Starting Pitcher when the only reason the Sox aren’t in first right now is the offense.

by No Pressure on Jun 10, 2009 6:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Or good defense.

by Ahillock on Jun 10, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Peavy deal was hardly gutting the farm system

"I'm just here to provide street cred"

by Tdogg on Jun 10, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

but they do need to grab an outfield bat.

"I'm just here to provide street cred"

by Tdogg on Jun 10, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re your sig: with a Greg Norman hat?

;-)

The City of Chicago, led by Mayor Daley and a vast and tumorous army of aldermen and bagmen and yesmen and opportunists and spineless, parasitic political-machine halfwits of forms never seen outside the roiling cesspool of governmental slop-trough greed, has proven itself unworthy of something as potentially delicious and fulfilling as the 2016 Olympic Games.
- Rick Telander

by Chiburb on Jun 10, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

"I'm just here to provide street cred"

by Tdogg on Jun 10, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Only reason? How many losses attributable to starting pitching?

The City of Chicago, led by Mayor Daley and a vast and tumorous army of aldermen and bagmen and yesmen and opportunists and spineless, parasitic political-machine halfwits of forms never seen outside the roiling cesspool of governmental slop-trough greed, has proven itself unworthy of something as potentially delicious and fulfilling as the 2016 Olympic Games.
- Rick Telander

by Chiburb on Jun 10, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs