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Gordon Beckham Will Be Fine, Thank You

I've been meaning to write about our boy, the White Sox savior, Gordon Beckham for some time now but have been waiting to see more at-bats to log my opinion. More than anything I wanted to address the anonymous reports given by a couple of scouts back when he was 0-13.

"He looks like a pretty good athlete," one scout said. "But he’s got to change his swing or (pitchers) are going to keep pounding him inside."

"The way his swing is, he’s got no chance right now," another scout said. "They’re going to keep working him in until he makes an adjustment."

I'm not going to disagree with them entirely. Beckham clearly has an inside-out, opposite field swing, the type you might expect to struggle with an inside fastball. But for me, that's the draw. When was the last time the White Sox had a right-handed batter who tried to use the whole field, who so obviously looked to go the other way? Magglio Ordonez is the last regular I can think of.

Beckham figures to be a complimentary piece to the current lineup of pull-happy sluggers (and Pods/Getz). He makes consistent, solid contact and hasn't appeared to be over-matched by any of the stuff he's seen thus far. He agrees.

"Look, no disrespect to the pitchers, they're getting me out and I'm not looking great up there," Beckham said. "But the stuff does not overmatch me. A lot of it is me getting myself out, and that's not good. I have to have good at-bats, get a pitch I can hit and square it up. After that I can't do much besides hit it, and where it goes, I don't know.

"I'm still over-energized, honestly. I get to the plate and in the back of my head I'm thinking, 'I haven't gotten many hits, get a hit.' Then the first pitch I see I'm going after it. I need to go up there and relax."

Yes, Beckham is going to have to prove that he can hit an inside fastball... with authority before he becomes a truly dangerous hitter. Once he shows he can step in the bucket, clear his hips and rope one into the White Sox bullpen... lookout. 

Until then, I can live with the opposite field doubles hitter, who figures to hit for a high average once he finally gets settled and sees his BABIP luck even out.

Defensively, Beckham has been, um, fine. That he's not a natural third baseman is quite obvious. He had a couple rookie mistakes at 3B on Wednesday,  doesn't really have the Joe Crede flop down, and even looks a bit awkward on most dives. But as the unnamed scout said, he's a good athlete and definitely has some good defensive fundamentals. To put it another way, he's just a baseball player (I had to.) Because of that, I believe he'll eventually turn himself into a plus-defensive 3B (if that does end up being his position) but he would seem to be a more natural fit at 2B right now.

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yay! it's here!!!!!

now i’ll read it

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Jun 18, 2009 12:03 AM CDT reply actions  

sleeps overrated

clap clap clappity clap..

good stuff though cheat…

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Jun 18, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

12:02AM

is not “tonight”!

(Otherwise great post)

by Steven Andrew Miller on Jun 18, 2009 12:24 AM CDT reply actions  

I agree that he is alright at the plate

and I think he will also eventually be good at third…. not right now though. He is a step late every time a ball is hit to him. those instincts will come with time…. i just hope it doesn’t cost us too many games before he figures it out

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jun 18, 2009 12:48 AM CDT reply actions  

in before national publication

Where time is meaningless, and outside of diamonds there are no dimensions.

by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on Jun 18, 2009 1:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Not looking promising right now....

Supposed to rain all day, with thunderstorms. There might be the so called “window” to get the game in, but I am not sure.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jun 18, 2009 7:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Effing global warming.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 18, 2009 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure if anyone else feels refreshed today?

I slept pretty good last night.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jun 18, 2009 7:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Self-gratification works every time, Bob.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 18, 2009 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

You would know, WU

From the discussions of your birthday “present” and congratulatory DMV anniversary, it sounds like your wife is quite the stingemeister in the sack.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jun 18, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

alright

if we’re not going to blow this thing up, dontcha think we should add a bat?

by Hatchetm on Jun 18, 2009 8:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Q.

BWAHAHAHA!

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 18, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Podsednik lf

Ramirez ss

Dye rf

Konerko 1b

Pierzynski c

Anderson cf

Getz 2b

Beckham 3b

Floyd p

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by larry on Jun 18, 2009 9:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Christ, no one protects Becks.

Who will pitch to him? Floyd better man up.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 18, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

did jesus require "protection"?

is this a fucking miller lite commercial or major league baseball?

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by larry on Jun 18, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

prolly could've used a little bit

with that whole cross thing

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Jun 18, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

he had simon.

at any rate, he took crucifixion like a man. i don’t know what’s happened but the expectations for saviors has really declined since back in the day.

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by larry on Jun 18, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

And using Phil Rogers' system,

Simon did not cancel out Judas and Peter. -1.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 18, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

11 AM EST,

and He is risen.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 18, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

BBBBBBWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAHHHHHAAAAAAAA

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jun 18, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

well jesus was really the peak seasons of saviors

first we had moses. he may have got the jews out of slavery, but followed that up by wondering around lost in a desert for 40 years. 1 moment of brilliance didn’t make up for the 40 years of suck.

now, were stuck with a savior who can only have a .132 batting average. compared to these chumps jesus was an easy first ballot HOF

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Jun 18, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

what the fuck?

moses was a savior? what sort of revisionist history is this?

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by larry on Jun 18, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

according to my jew friends

can we get an expert in here? TAEG? WU’s wife?

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Jun 18, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

your jew friends have no idea what they're talking about.

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by larry on Jun 18, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

For some reason, this is really funny.

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jun 18, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

larry mocking my friends is almost as good as him mocking me

as i don’t think i’ve ever had a very good larry beat down

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Jun 18, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

You haven't taken any risks, matt,

or challenged him, or promised anything that you haven’t delivered (Getz interview, e.g.).

Take a risk and prepare for the possibility of getting whacked. You’ll live.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 18, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

i've made my share of dumb comments

i’m not intelligent enough in baseball to make sound arguments. i like knowing what is going on before i take a stand, and i dont consider myself to be knowledgeable enough to do that

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Jun 18, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

i disagree

taking multiple wives, having sex with ten year old girls, and stockpiling weaponry still gets you martyred by the government – see david koresh. maybe he wasn’t recognized in his time as a great; however, neither was jesus.

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by larry on Jun 18, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

What about the comments after Jesus died on the cross

“Truly this man was the son of God.” And a great storm happened right afterwards. Isn’t that enough to say that Jesus was recognized in his time as a great. Yeah, maybe he had just died at that moment, but he came back a few days later.

I look at guys like John the Baptist and say, this guy definitely was a new crop of player of his time. To me, Moses is a little too old to be considered the great of his time. Moses is in the same group as Noah, Abraham, and Elijah.

by airnjp on Jun 18, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

accounts differ as to what actually occurred immediately after his death.

and those accounts were also written long after his death. i believe history will treat david koresh kindly.

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by larry on Jun 18, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree with TAEG, and the plagues were essentially Savior Enhancing Drugs.

It was just a different era. Without a really good plague, Beckham is never going to hit over .250…

"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote

by SkanchoDanza on Jun 18, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

what more evidence of plague do you need

swine flu, bird flu, the emerald ash borer, cicatas. i think we have plenty of instances of plagues still happening today.

by airnjp on Jun 18, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Plague has been experienced at 3B and CF

by the Sox the last year or so. What else has to happen? Another ’07?

’07. NEVER FORGET!

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 18, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Meh, '07 was frogs or boils at worst.

Now 1986 … there was a darkness/slaying-of-the-first-born plague.

by The Actual El Guapo on Jun 18, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bunch of racists

Not one mention of Ras Tafari? I don’t care if he did play in the Negro Leagues, he was a total beast

Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.

by ChicagoPete on Jun 18, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

You think that's bad

Try lugging all 12 manifestations of Vishnu while while explaining the role of individuals in society during an epic war.

That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on Jun 18, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Look at this - zero rec's

for the non-Christian references.

Myopic are we.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 18, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's probably because the final 2 incarnations are missing

The site readers are very detail-oriented.

That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on Jun 18, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

thats not why

The damn Christians destroyed the original Hall of Fame and stole the players stats for their own shrine.
Thats why guys like Odin(best power hitter of all time hands down) and Quetzalcoatl dont get no respect.

South Side (Cant) Hit (For Shit) Men

by e-gus on Jun 18, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Please do not offer

my god a peanut."

"I put up some beautiful number." – Sammy Sosa
"I wouldn't know a steroid from a reefer." - Lou Piniella

by tailgater on Jun 18, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

without

john the baptist, jesus is still walking on water in anonymity.

by Hatchetm on Jun 18, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Technially

All of these guys were voted in to the Hall based on the Bible writers. I think we should give them all some credit.

by airnjp on Jun 18, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Veterans Commitee is the real problem

Jesus has gone all Joe Morgan on David Koresh.

"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote

by SkanchoDanza on Jun 18, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Poor Mother Theresa.

She’s effed for the HOF, I bet.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 18, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

she'll be in the 'roid wing

she had massive muscular thighs – and it wasn’t from all that walking in sandels. She was most definetly on PED’s.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jun 18, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

OK, that is fantastic.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 18, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Miracle" = "the cream and the clear".

Joins St. Christopher in the Purgatory Hall of Fame.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 18, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

wow

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jun 18, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tough to look away, isn't it.

That explains the “miracles” and also the post-use depression (“I have not felt the presence of Jesus in many years” crap).

Wonder what Heaven’s rehab facility looks like? Who is on staff? And is Q eligible for diagnosis/treatment, or does one need to be dead first?

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 18, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

a woman savior?

what the fuck is wrong with this country?

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by larry on Jun 18, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is this MM?

Carry on.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 18, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not anymore.

Hillary is on the DL with a broken arm.

by jimmyjr on Jun 18, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

You have no Jew friends.

Only money-changers.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 18, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would like to both flag and rec this.

member of a "solid community of fans" and "a meathead."

by thecip on Jun 18, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

189 K's, 6 BB's

zambrano’s career batting.

by Hatchetm on Jun 18, 2009 9:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Walks don't get you off...

Continent, island, whatever.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 18, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of "needs"

I believe Becks’ helmet needs a little pine tar, ala Vlad – too shiny and new looking.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 18, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

i want it as dirty as ozzie's

that way skin color + pine tar = really f’n grindy

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Jun 18, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would do that trade all over again if we could..

He only netted us Matt Thorton

It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.

They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.

by ElDiablo on Jun 18, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

they never learn, do they (or hang out around SSS)

not meaning to interrupt this prophet projection and placement discussion, but…

last night I go out, this chick in sox shirt comes over all excited, high fives and everything. 5 mins into conversation, she says “guess who I met earlier tonight… Brian Anderson, at Mo’s”. I gather all the strength and try not to laugh out loud, she proceeds with “and he took my number” (or i got his number, I don’t remember now).

My thoughts immediately:

- good to see BA still got it
- girly, don’t you know anything about BA
- when are we gonna make out? and how much damage did BA do already?

she was a fun girl though

Lupe, release the balloons!

by LT_sox_fan on Jun 18, 2009 11:14 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

What happened to the chick you were dogging last month?

The one who called you?

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 18, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

dude, did I screw that one up

so everything was going great, started hanging out with her more often, meeting after work, staying over after late night bar outings, the whole deal. Until… Last week, she says hey come over to this place, bunch of my friends will be there (before that I had met only two of her girl friends) you get to meet everyone, etc…. I am like yea sure, no problem, I am there.

All is going good, I am having fun, until these two guys show up. They were not too happy that I was there. I will skip all the glory details, but it ends with me telling one of them some not very nice words and understandably the girl gets not too happy with moi, and of course by then being really drunk, I say something retarded like “don’t feel like dealing with this, fuck it, i am out, c u later”, and just take off… and it went downhill from there. Whatever, I saw her yesterday as well, just a bullshit chit chat about nothing.

Lupe, release the balloons!

by LT_sox_fan on Jun 18, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

You should have called BA

He would have smoothed everything over for ya.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jun 18, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

jesus

is this what single guys have to go through to get laid? all of a sudden, putting up with my wife’s BS doesn’t seem so bad.

by Hatchetm on Jun 18, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

dude, not to worry...this is why you keep a rotation of prospects

I’ve got one that I’m about ready to call up to the bigs, but no, not just yet…we’re going to give her some more seasoning at AAA…and you’d better believe I’m not cutting loose my AA and A arms just yet.

Formerly Crede's Crew

by Q!'s Qrew on Jun 18, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

you seem like you have a good attitude about it all

i recall a few discussions w/ you on the topic.
You should go out and have some beers and do some Thurs night scouting after another white sox winner.

Formerly Crede's Crew

by Q!'s Qrew on Jun 18, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least she doesn't bring home two guys.

One guy and a donkey, maybe, but never two guys.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 18, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

i thought i mentioned staying over at her place after some bar outings

and that “STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY” (btw, colin, i love that expression, use it all the time now after I saw it here)

Lupe, release the balloons!

by LT_sox_fan on Jun 18, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

just say something like

’ come round for a cuddle and we’ll watch It’s a wonderful life, I’m not sure if I want to take things further at the moment ’

then get her drunk and shag her

by hoodlight on Jun 18, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'ing that comment will give your computer a digital STD.

Also, I may pass on your next high five offering.

"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote

by SkanchoDanza on Jun 18, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

good question.

LT, which hand is your southpaw?

"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote

by SkanchoDanza on Jun 18, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I bet you don't loathe Skan.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 18, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

So how much damage did BA do?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jun 18, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

never found out

tried not to think about him. but how can you not? HE IS SO CUTE!!!!!!!

Lupe, release the balloons!

by LT_sox_fan on Jun 18, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

was she already wore when you met her?

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Jun 18, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Alternative shirt for Cubs fans wearing the "Ozzie Mowing" shirts

"I put up some beautiful number." – Sammy Sosa
"I wouldn't know a steroid from a reefer." - Lou Piniella

by tailgater on Jun 18, 2009 11:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Todays topics on a Beckham post:

1. the better God/Saint/Zealot in regards to baseball
2. chasing tail

this is why I keep coming back.

well this and all the great Sox talk.

South Side (Cant) Hit (For Shit) Men

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