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Ozzie Guillen on moving Scott Linebrink out of the far too rigidly-defined set-up role: "I don’t know," Guillen said. "That’s like a slap in the face. That’s his role, he’s been pitching in that role since we got him. Last week, he just didn’t get it done. We have to continue to see how he throws. We have a few other guys there, I’m going to stick with him as long as I can.’’

"I talked to him in Milwaukee (last weekend), and he said he was fine," Guillen said. "He just needs to throw more strikes. Every time you come out of the bullpen, you have to throw strikes. You have to. If not, you’re going to get hit and everyone knows that.’’

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correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that if you throw more pitches in the strike zone, hitters would try to hit those pitches more often

Thus, I have concluded that the statement “He just needs to throw more strikes. Every time you come out of the bullpen, you have to throw strikes. You have to. If not, you’re going to get hit and everyone knows that” has a logical flaw to it.

Oh Ozzie, you really know how to get me, don’t you? Come here youuuuu and give me a hug.

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jun 18, 2009 6:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i think it's usually understood that when players and coaches talk about throwing strikes

they don’t mean grooving a 85 MPH fastball. they mean good strikes. you know, command.

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by larry on Jun 18, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are the voice of reason amid our chorus of marble mouths

I figured I must have been reading something incorrectly, so thanks for the more rational assessment.

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jun 18, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or at least spoke to him about how he was doing.

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by larry on Jun 18, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ozzie knows he is a bitch,

he’s got eyes too you know!

i don't really consider a raspberry from sliding into home an injury
by U-God on May 31, 2009 4:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 18, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well i'm not especially happy to hear this.

and i’d wager that there are others that feel similarly.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Jun 18, 2009 6:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I feel similarly, colintj.

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jun 18, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as would i colin

I just accidentally the Fleshlight.
Accidentally what?
THE WHOLE THING!!

by BoeJouma on Jun 18, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

investigating further:

looking through Linebrink’s 2008 pitch f/x, i don’t see any reason why he can’t be a decent reliever. and his velocity looks okay so far this year.

…but then there’s the little matter of his 2009 contact rate, which is not good and way off from his career rate. his K rate looks good, but if it’s inflated by K’s looking that’s probably unsustainable. obviously, he’s got command issues. so right now he’s a flyball pitcher nearing 4 BB/9 who can’t get a whiff when he needs it. that’s a pretty obvious recipe for disaster. Ozzie can’t treat him like a vet with a long leash if he wants this team to win games. the offense isn’t good enough. any time the Sox have a lead, he should probably treat it as a high leverage situation.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Jun 18, 2009 6:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he did throw strikes

they just got hit out of the park

by hoodlight on Jun 18, 2009 6:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's exactly what I was thinking when I read the quote

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jun 18, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too

fuck the bullshit

South Side (Cant) Hit (For Shit) Men

by e-gus on Jun 18, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was a good night for me anyway

Dutch girl called Rachel saw how unhappy I looked when I hit a bar in Arnhem after the game. I don’t look gift horses in the mouth these days, especially ones wearing black leather knee high lace up boots and short skirts.

she’s gone now, but I’m seeing her again, ’ you crazy english man’

Linebrink was a runt dog but as soon as Lee hit that homer he should have been pulled, so I think the managers should take some blame.

 I hate Holland, I’m missing my mates.

by hoodlight on Jun 18, 2009 7:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

for the record, she was hot.

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jun 19, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

at least you're worthless.

meaning she didn’t take you for half your shit.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Jun 19, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You'd make a great therapist

once you lose all your money.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 19, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

quad witching today, oldie.

might just be the all-too-rare up day for MM.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Jun 19, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You just have to have one big hit

to erase all the small ones.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 19, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hoping the russell reconstitution offers that opportunity,

but i’m really just trying to get in a positive way. this market is not a trader’s market anymore. it’s tough as hell. the toughest it’s been in my career.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Jun 19, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Join. The. Crowd.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 19, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

she is one sweet looking lady

still, seeing that box score up in front of SSS sickens me. I gonna go read Beck’s piece that Cheat penned one more time.

Lupe, release the balloons!

by LT_sox_fan on Jun 18, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice! one more pic of her

http://images.google.com/images?q=sammy+braddy

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 18, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

right

here you go:

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 18, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh, why in the world would any woman WANT gigantic breasts like that?

She looks bigger than me and I hate mine. No skinny woman should have friggin triple-D or whatever boobs. It’s wrong. She’s built like a Barbie doll and looks just as fake.

That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!

Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09

by HappyHuman on Jun 18, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

boo!

boo. just boo.

take that Virginia McCaskey rhetoric and cram it, missy! Oh the Bears shouldnt have cheer leaders, girls shouldnt look hot.

Boo.

Id wager those puppies are real, as she is hardly a skinny chick, shes of the thick cut variety. id need to see some topless shots to be sure, but I bet thats all real and quite lovely.

South Side (Cant) Hit (For Shit) Men

by e-gus on Jun 19, 2009 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok I found some topless ones. lol

the only shot of her on her back is inconclusive, as she has a tank top pulled up and it may be holding them up a bit, but they might be augmented some since they seem to be standing up and not falling down to the sides like a real set would, but this girl was definitely not an a-cup beforehand. the NSFW shots are here if anyone else wants to guess real or fake. What a good looking woman though. Lovely.

South Side (Cant) Hit (For Shit) Men

by e-gus on Jun 19, 2009 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i knew you were a lesbian!

"Yes, the pitch in between the 2 home runs was HOF material.
Linebrink needs to be impaled by a trident." - Ozzie Montana 6-18-09

by e-gus on Jun 19, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well,

I knew hoped you were a lesbian.

Fixed.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 19, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 19, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jun 19, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, they look a bit big for her body, no venus de milo there!

whatever the size it’s all good though

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 19, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A bit of a mesomorph, yes.

I like ’em more athletic looking. Toned. That belly is not quite flat enough. Mrs. Ugly has a great washboard tummy.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 19, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, then post some pics.

but the chick in the pictures isn’t far off, she just needs to put in some gym time. i told my gf that drinking and eating with me means more gym time for her. she’s not gonna lose her figure on my watch.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Jun 19, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please.

#1. Mrs. Ugly is 45.
#2. You have got to be kidding. Do I look like Hefner?
#3. Mrs. Ugly is 45!

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 19, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry, wu, but i don't believe that women can't look good at 45. i also believe they can stay photogenic and sexy.

i’m sorry that you don’t feel your wife is any of those things. she deserves better than that. if you really found her attractive you’d post pics of her.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Jun 19, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

chubby?

she’s an english bird, we like em like that. I wouldn’t call her chubby, she’s voluptuous. You can keep your stick thin boob jobbed cheerleaders, we don’t want em

by hoodlight on Jun 19, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with ya, hoodie.

She’s solid, but not the type I would post pictures of.

I do appreciate your postings of her, however. ;)

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jun 19, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

one post

seems she’s got a few new fans anyway now

by hoodlight on Jun 19, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops, thought it was the lady you were posting a few months back.

They all start looking the same after a while ;)

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jun 19, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

She'd be even hotter if she would let her hair grow.

Currrvaceous!

And you don't need a weatherman
To know which way the wind blows.

by oahu420 on Jun 19, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which hair?

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 19, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, get off your soapbox. we can all agree that waif thin chicks are not as hot as curvy chicks.

that doesn’t mean you can’t go to the gym and work off the belly. that’s all i’m saying. it doesn’t mean you can’t eat, or you have to have an eating disorder, or a coke problem. it means you have to EXERCISE!

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Jun 19, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Linebrink on 0 days rest this season

5 games

4.2 IP, 7 H, 6 R, 2 ER, 4BB, 5K, 3 HR — 2 L (in the two tie games he entered) 2 successful outings in 3+ run games and the blown 4-run lead today, which is too large to be classified as a blown save)

Pitches required in those 5 outings: 20, 23, 18, 26, 30

by The Cheat on Jun 18, 2009 8:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking (and someone else posted) that he shouldn't be used back-to-back anymore

He’s old and coming off an injury. Honestly, the Sox got a half-season of very good pitching from him which is more than I thought they would.

I wasn’t that upset that KW gave a middle reliever that contract — I was more upset that KW gave that contract to reliever who profiled to suck. But, his stuff looks better than I thought it would. I think could actually still be effective, but Ozzie needs to use him differently.

by hitlesswonder on Jun 18, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you wanna extend it to the last 365

it’s 9 games

7.2 IP, 12H, 9 R, 5 ER, 5BB, 8 K, 5 HR — 3 L, one blown save, one catastrophe too large to be classified as a blown save — he had 4 “successful” outings, but only one in a tie or 1-run game

by The Cheat on Jun 18, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

needs to stretch out that shoulder a little better. get that deep knot worked out some.

White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry

by larry on Jun 18, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEBBBBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNKKKKKKKKKKKKKK YYYYYYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK PPPPPPPPPPPPUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNTTTTTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After 5 minutes of trying to help this kid, the hurt would end up using him as a bat.
-rangerjae

by blackoutsox on Jun 18, 2009 9:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

so let me get this straight.

he pitches well the first half of last year.
gets injured.
does nothing down the stretch 08’.
pitches every other week 09.
talks Peavy out of coming here (thank Q!)
shits his pants every outing.
collects paycheck.

So if my bar napkin math is right… he has collected somewhere around 5-6 million dollars over the last season and 1/3 to have absolutely NO IMPACT.

i don't really consider a raspberry from sliding into home an injury
by U-God on May 31, 2009 4:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 18, 2009 9:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

close

no good impact.

fixed

I just accidentally the Fleshlight.
Accidentally what?
THE WHOLE THING!!

by BoeJouma on Jun 18, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he fucking sucks and is a thief.

no matter how you word it.

i don't really consider a raspberry from sliding into home an injury
by U-God on May 31, 2009 4:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 18, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jermaine Dye could sit Friday night
Right-fielder Jermaine Dye hasn’t finished each of his last three games to protect a sore left calf and manager Ozzie Guillen is considering giving Dye a rest Friday night when the White Sox play at Cincinnati.

“Hopefully, with a day off, he’ll feel better, but we’re going by ear,” Guillen said. “We gave him back-to-back days off [Sunday and Monday], and that didn’t help him. I have to be careful with him. If Dye goes down, [ Carlos] Quentin is already down, and it will be tough on us.”

Guillen still plans to start backup Ramon Castro to catch Jose Contreras.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-19-white-sox-bits-chicago-jun19,0,84157.story

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 18, 2009 9:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

sss' newest venture

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/sports/baseball/2009/06/19/212834/White-Sox.htm

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 18, 2009 9:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

taiwan is a renegade province that is an integral part of china.

we do not approve of this venture.

White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry

by larry on Jun 18, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

right

I did not notice the .tw dammit…

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 18, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

0617_U-GOD_-_DOPIUM-(EXPLICIT_RETAIL)-[GROUPRIP]-(New______2009)

u buyin this u-god?

i don't really consider a raspberry from sliding into home an injury
by U-God on May 31, 2009 4:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 18, 2009 9:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that is a link to nothing

but i’ve had the mixtape for dopium since december

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Jun 19, 2009 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wasnt going to post an illegal download link on this site lol

Link

-Gotta sign up but well worth it. Just downloaded all the Justice league mixtapes.

i don't really consider a raspberry from sliding into home an injury
by U-God on May 31, 2009 4:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 20, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The game thread was hilarious.

As pist off as I was after the game,it made me laugh.
Mahalo

And you don't need a weatherman
To know which way the wind blows.

by oahu420 on Jun 18, 2009 10:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is it me

or does Linebrink’s fast ball have absolutely no movement what so ever? Looks like straight gopher balls to me.

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain

by phastphil on Jun 18, 2009 10:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nice

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jun 19, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

its 12:49 and scott linebrink still sucks

I just accidentally the Fleshlight.
Accidentally what?
THE WHOLE THING!!

by BoeJouma on Jun 19, 2009 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

its the next day and he is still a wanker.

South Side (Cant) Hit (For Shit) Men

by e-gus on Jun 19, 2009 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

also, this might be my fault:

5-22 someone said I look like Linebrink at the SSS meet up.
5-24 I shaved off the chin whiskers.

since then Linebrink’s line looks like this:
8 IP, 11 hits surrendered, 8 runs scored, 5 BB, 7 Ks, 1-2 with a save, a WHIP of 2.0!

my bad?
no of course not.
HE JUST SUCKS MORE DICK THAN TSK!

South Side (Cant) Hit (For Shit) Men

by e-gus on Jun 19, 2009 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

good use of wanker

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Jun 19, 2009 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Monday's blank and

Tuesday too
Wednesday and I want my Q
Thursday the game Linebrink blew
It’s Friday I’m intoxicated

by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 19, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not bad.

Keep drinking.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 19, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like it.

Keep drinking.

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jun 19, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"It's Friday I'm intoxicated".

Are you not living your art?

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 19, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bastard! You beat me to it!

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jun 19, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I may as well be

I haven’t had alcohol in years, though.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 19, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This reply, for one, but "It's Friday, I'm intoxicated" is a good hint.

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jun 19, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't sleep to well last night.

Had nightmares of Linebrink grooving fastballs over the heart of the plate for the next two and half years. Still scared.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jun 19, 2009 7:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ramon Castro
When Cubs fans lose, they get mad, people drink and fight," Castro said. “It’s part of the game. That’s why baseball is beautiful.”

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jun 19, 2009 7:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BSS finishing his quote:

“then the male fans do massive amounts of cosmo shots, hug, pair up, go home and have crazy goat sex and cuddle.”

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jun 19, 2009 7:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

winningugly loves when people quote themselves.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 19, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe it isn't just us....
It is uncanny how the Yankees, more than almost any other team, seem to struggle so mightily against unfamiliar pitchers. It has not, however, gone unnoticed. Joked one veteran scout Thursday night: "I don’t know, if I were a team playing the Yankees in the postseason, I’d call up three pitchers from the minor leagues – any three pitchers – and take my chances."

by VictorB on Jun 19, 2009 10:12 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

SNAP OUT OF IT, ALL OF YOU!!!!

I CAN’T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!

Look at yourselves. What a bunch of whining little pansies. So what if Linbrink craps his pants because Ozzie can’t figure out how to change the ordering of his bullpen (perhaps he used a sharpie on the dry erase board and doesn’t want to admit his fuck up?). We can’t sit here and dwell upon the past! We’ve got plenty of half-assed trade speculation to engage in, plenty of crappy photoshops to post, plenty of redundant minor league questions to pose, and plenty of blasphemous religious jokes to exploit!

Now quit crying in your fucking beers, sack up and get out there and be the pack of a-holes I know you can be! LET’S GO TEAM!!!

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jun 19, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

good post

What I dont get is that ’05 Ozzie didnt have this hard line approach to who pitches where out of the pen. We had half a season from Hermanson nailing it down(no ERA into July if I remember correctly) then Marte, Shingo, and finally Bobby nailing down the 9th to go wire to wire with Politte vulturing a save in there too for good measure. There was more flexibility it seemed. Now sure, it helps to get career years from just about all those guys I mentioned as well as Cotts, but still, it didnt seem like Ozzie said its the 8th inning therefore so and so pitches, it was more on his gut then, and now its like the guy is phoning it in.
I understand the reasoning that people want to know their role and what is expected of them and all that, but if you are a pitcher and you really want to know whats expected of you, then be good enough to be a starter. Or even a closer. Otherwise, be ready to go at a moments notice no matter what. Thats your role, thats the bullpen.

"Yes, the pitch in between the 2 home runs was HOF material.
Linebrink needs to be impaled by a trident." - Ozzie Montana 6-18-09

by e-gus on Jun 19, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

perhaps Ozzie is getting stale

but he is still one of the best pitching managers in the game.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 19, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Keep drinking.

The box score. Yesterday. Read it.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 19, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lately?

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 19, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, Liney's been shit.

I’d like to see Jenks in their more often. However, the starting pitching has turned around. I’m not worried. Mild slump.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 19, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yesterday was hubris on Ozzie's part.

Everyone blew him the day before for all his wondrous managerial moves – bunting, player selection, strategy – and the next it went straight ot his head. He’d never make it as a trader – too macho, tough for him to act on the realization he’s made a mistake (and correct it) without looking “less than a man”.

Yeah, I said it. Too macho. Limit losses to small ones, not ones that lose games that were in the bag.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 19, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was my thought upon reading his commentary here about Linebrink and continuing to use him...

He’s obviously wrong and made a giant managing mistake yesterday…and he can’t fucking admit to it. Instead, feeds some bs about ‘talking to him last week’ and ‘you gotta throw strikes’….come on, Ozzie, you’re wrong, admit it. How many high-leverage situations does Linebrink need to blow before you stop giving him chances?

He’ll throw Che in the doghouse for his rough offensive start, but he won’t make Liney sit in the corner of the bullpen with his dunce hat, where he belongs….because that would somehow be admitting that he’s been misusing him.

Buncha crap. Especially when you consider what else we have sitting in the bullpen, idle.
I didn’t want to see Liney yesterday, but admit that I thought a 4-run cushion might be enough for him.
When he blew that to a 1-run cushion (and created his own high-leverage situation), no question, the fucker should have been pulled.

Just [expletive] Fuck It.

by homesickalien on Jun 19, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like this perspective as well.

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jun 19, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's bad form to bash a guy

your boss thought, just two years ago, was worth five million a year.

Where time is meaningless, and outside of diamonds there are no dimensions.

by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on Jun 19, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on.

2 years is a long time.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 19, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spot. Fucking. On. OPOS.

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jun 19, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who said anything about putting him in?

I stated that he needed to cut his losses and keep them minimal rather than compounding it by leaving him in. Don’t read things into comments that are not there. He was full of himself and refused to back down and admit Liney was a bad move. He personalized it – not his fault Liney didn’t have it, but it was his fault he didn’t cut and run sooner.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jun 19, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he made a right balls up in my view

Lee hits that homer, that’s it sunshine, goodnight Vienna, let’s get someone else in.

by hoodlight on Jun 19, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rah.

Just [expletive] Fuck It.

by homesickalien on Jun 19, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

like a slap in the face, huh?

you know what else is like a slap in the face? watching the manager of the team you root for put in a crap pitcher and cost the team a game against your crosstown rivals.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Jun 19, 2009 12:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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