Know Your North Side Pitchers - Randy Wells
Harry Pavlidis agreed against his better judgment to provide SSSers with a breakdown of Cub starters for the series at the Cell. He's among the very few writers around doing his own pitch classification. A number of the guys who had been got hired by major league clubs, so read his stuff before you lose the chance.
-colin
Go Cubs.
Just had to get that out of the way, sorry. The crazy people that run this joint asked me to stop on by and share some info on the Cubs starters for this weekend's series. First up is Randy Wells, a rookie who has been one of the more reliable (and unlikely) members of the Cubs' staff. I'll be using PITCHf/x quite a bit, but, first, a little background on Mr. Wells.
Reaching the Major Leagues
Wells is a local, sort of. He's from Belleville, which probably makes him a Cardinals fan. First drafted in 2001, Wells turned down the Mets offer and waited a year for the Cubs to take him. He moved up six rounds, all the way to the 38th.
Fast foward to December 2007. Wells was five years into his minor league career, mostly in relief, and had just spent all of 2007 in the Pacific Coast League. Left unprotected, Wells was selected by the Toronto Blue Jays in the Rule 5 Draft. And he made their team out of camp.
Wells pitched a single inning for the Blue Jays before he was returned to Chicago. As a Rule 5 pick, the Jays had to waive him, and, if he cleared, offer him back to the Cubs for half the draft fee (it cost $50,000, IIRC, to acquire Wells).
The Cubs reacquired Wells and reassigned him to Iowa. He'd make a few relief appearances after the rosters expanded in September, but found himself back in Iowa to start 2009. This time, Wells was in the rotation, not the bullpen. After five succesful starts with the I-Cubs, his services were required in the big leagues.
Back Luck Randy
Making his first start on May 8, no one knew that Wells was about to embark on a nearly unprecedented run of good starts without a win. It's hard to find many pitchers who had such bad run and bullpen support to start their career.
Not being blamed for his luck, Wells forced Sean Marshall to the bullpen when various other guys got un-hurt or un-suspended. Although a lack of lefty options has something to do with Marshall's role, but you all know Neal Cotts already.
What He Throws
You'll hear a lot about Wells' sinker. It's supposedly his bread-and-butter, and it may very well be. It's just a two-seam fastball, and it's more of a tailer than a sinker - he's no Derek Lowe. Wells throws plenty of four-seam fastballs, too. As a matter of fact, he throws more four-seam fastballs than two-seam sinkers. Not by a lot (244-208).
Both of his fastballs are used against both lefties and righties, although he'll use more four-seamers against right-handed hitters. It won't work it's way inside as much as the sinker. Wells' sinker actually just drops about 2 inches more than the four-seam fastball, but tails (away from lefties) and extra 3 or 4 inches. At 90 mph, that's pretty good action.
One of the things I like about Wells is how balanced he is with his pitch mix. I already pointed that out about his fastball/sinker. But here are the totals, also split by batter hand, for each of his pitches. These pitch classifications are my own, using the same data as Gameday but not the same methodology.
| pitch | # | vs LHH | vs RHH |
| Two-seam Fastball/Sinker | 208 | 94 | 114 |
| Four-seam Fastball | 244 | 95 | 149 |
| Slider | 203 | 57 | 146 |
| Change-up | 125 | 75 | 50 |
| Cutter | 7 | 6 | 1 |
Wells' slider is usually around 84/85 and comes with more sweep than sink. So, it's a little on the sluttery side. The change is too close to 84mph for my taste, given the just-touching-90 fastballs. That's barely enough separation.
The few cutters I think I've found come in a couple mph slower than the fastballs, with about two inches of cut off the four-seamer. That's a very tentative assessment, based on the limited data. Heck, it could just be noise.
Anyway, the point was the pitch mix. 454 fastballs, 333 off-speed. The slider is thrown nearly as much as the sinker, so maybe we should call him a slutter-baller. Or not.
Quick, you're Jim Thome. It's an 0-0 count, what will Wells throw you?
On 0-0 counts against lefties, Wells throws sinkers (35%), fastballs (32%), sliders (20%) and change-ups (13%).
What if you're right-handed? Turns out the guessing is easier, but the stuff may be nastier. Sliders are the favorite (38%) followed by the four-seam fastballs (34%), two-seam sinkers (18%) and the change (10%).
Run Values
Wells has most of his success with his off-speed pitches. All of his pitches are actually above average (not including the cutter), yielding fewer runs per 100 pitches than an average pitch. "rv100" measures the impact of each pitch thrown, based on the count and the outcome, compared to the average pitch and outcome in that count. Put it all together, and you have run value above average (rvaa), a counting stat, which is easily converted to rv100, run value per 100 pitches. Negative numbers are good for pitchers, you want them to give up less runs, not more.
Well's slider posts an rv100 of -2.6, his change beats it at -2.9. Fastballs, sinkers and four-seamers alike, usually post higher run values, but Wells keeps both of his in good shape. -1.7 for the sinker, and -0.3 for the fastball.
Balls in Play
Wells has ground ball rates above 48% for each pitch except the fastball, which still checks in at a very reasonable 40%. When you consider the four-seamer tends to "rise" (not literally) and Wells likes to locate it up in the zone, relative to his other pitches, 40% sounds pretty good.
Problem: Randy Wells' HR per Flyball is very low. I separate line drives and pop-ups from flies (using Gameday's stringer entered classifications), so I get an overall HR/FB of ~11% (HR/LD ~ 2.5%). Wells has had just 3.4% of his outfield flies leave the yard. He's due for some regression to the mean.
Last Thing(s) on Wells
Wells is a good pitcher, maybe not as good as we've seen to to date. He pitches to contact, yielding sub-par whiff rates on all of his pitches (relative to pitches of the same type), and gets a good amount of ground balls. Yet, he gives up plenty of fly balls and seems very lucky with the home runs. He can throw three pitches for strikes (the change is the exception, and is probably not meant to find the zone) and will use just about any pitch in any count against any hitter.
Bottom line, he'll keep hitters off balance, attack the zone, and let his defense do the work. He'll get knocked around from time-to-time as a result, and he's probably due for a few beat-downs. Hopefully just not this time around.
You can read more about Wells and the Cubs at Cubs f/x. I also write at Beyond the Boxscore, The Hardball Times and Out of the Ivy. And just about any place desperate enough for content to invite me over.
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good stuff, thanks.
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by larry on Jun 25, 2009 11:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks man
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Jun 26, 2009 12:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it's a pity we only can really have you guest write for two series
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Jun 26, 2009 8:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
we should have him assess some of the sox pitchers
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by larry on Jun 26, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing
Would he? Or is that writing the bible for the devil?
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
by Tdogg on Jun 26, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
been there, done that
http://www.cubsfx.com/2008/10/one-for-south-side-gavin-floyd-fx.html
http://www.cubsfx.com/2008/06/jose-contreras-vs-ryan-dempster.html
http://www.cubsfx.com/2008/06/contreras-revisited-pitch-id-updates.html
http://www.cubsfx.com/2008/06/know-your-south-side-pitchers.html
by Harry Pavlidis on Jun 26, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we do have some new pitchers, though.
and some that appear to have changed approach.
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by larry on Jun 26, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is true
I will do a series wrap-up which will get into Sox pitchers in some detail. I’m anxious to look at Contreras and his forkball again. That’s a sick pitch.
by Harry Pavlidis on Jun 26, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds good, thanks.
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by larry on Jun 26, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
very nice
didn’t we used to have a guy who would do write-ups on opposing pitchers? what happened to him? did he get a job?
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on Jun 26, 2009 8:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good stuff,
but flagged because of your first 2 words. You can’t come in here and urinate on our living room floor.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jun 26, 2009 9:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That rug really tied the room together. Did.it.not.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 26, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"ver is ze money, vinningügly?"
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Jun 26, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It kills me that he set that one up and had no idea what he was doing...
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 26, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was that a Lebowski ref?
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jun 26, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm talking about unchecked aggression here, WU. About drawing a line in the sand. Across this line, you do not.....
oh, and also WU, Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian American, please.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 26, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this isn't a man
that built the god-damned railroads walter, he pissed on my fuckin rug
by soxshenanigans on Jun 26, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You butchered it a bit, but I'll allow it. :)
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 26, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just gonna go find a cash machine
"What do you mean?" he answered. "I love the Outfield!"
by madopal on Jun 26, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Own pitch classification"
How do other guys classify pitches differently than you? Do people for the most part just go of Pitch f/x, or are there other databases available? I’m not really familiar with this area of the analysis, so any answer is appreciated.
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2009 11:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Most people just use Gameday's
But, those aren’t as reliable as some of the post hoc classifications.
by Harry Pavlidis on Jun 26, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I was wondering, Gameday can be really hit or miss sometimes
Especially with a guy like Contreras.
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very nice work! And if I read it correctly, the Sox
are either going down easily, or going to hit 5 HRs for the win.
The City of Chicago, led by Mayor Daley and a vast and tumorous army of aldermen and bagmen and yesmen and opportunists and spineless, parasitic political-machine halfwits of forms never seen outside the roiling cesspool of governmental slop-trough greed, has proven itself unworthy of something as potentially delicious and fulfilling as the 2016 Olympic Games.
- Rick Telander
by Chiburb on Jun 26, 2009 11:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
In other words, a typical Sox game.
The City of Chicago, led by Mayor Daley and a vast and tumorous army of aldermen and bagmen and yesmen and opportunists and spineless, parasitic political-machine halfwits of forms never seen outside the roiling cesspool of governmental slop-trough greed, has proven itself unworthy of something as potentially delicious and fulfilling as the 2016 Olympic Games.
- Rick Telander
by Chiburb on Jun 26, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a Michael Jackson joke in there somewhere...
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jun 26, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was going to say
Nancy Faust.
THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY
by colintj on Jun 26, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is worse than blaspheming Q.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jun 26, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you bite your tongue!
Formerly Crede's Crew
by Q!'s Qrew on Jun 26, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really hope she plays 'sweetleaf' for Soto tomorrow.
"Yes, the pitch in between the 2 home runs was HOF material.
Linebrink needs to be impaled by a trident." - Ozzie Montana 6-18-09
by e-gus on Jun 26, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what is it about alexei and late may?
Josh Fields’ two home runs, including the go-ahead blast, are part of a six-homer onslaught that helps the White Sox beat the Dodgers for the first time since Bob Shaw bested Sandy Koufax in Game Five of the 1959 World Series. It’s a rare burst of offense for the Sox, who are 12th in the league in EqA and averaging just 4.2 runs per game in June. One player who’s not struggling is Alexei Ramirez; he’s hitting .304/.360/.486 with seven home runs since May 17, compared to .214/.254/.265 with two homers before.
sox #20 on hit list
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=9129
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by larry on Jun 26, 2009 11:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He gets relaxed. Too relaxed sometimes.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jun 26, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hes a YPOS
"Yes, the pitch in between the 2 home runs was HOF material.
Linebrink needs to be impaled by a trident." - Ozzie Montana 6-18-09
by e-gus on Jun 26, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was looking at the K/BB ratios from Carrasco the last two years with the sox
Versus his time before that. Quite the remarkable turnaround. Credit goes to Cooper and Ozzie of and KW. He’s (gulp) been one of the Sox’ best relievers.
by madvillian on Jun 26, 2009 11:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm starting to feel a little more optimstic about this team's chances
Offense is picking up and the pitching has been really solid. I’m still doubtful that everyone can get healthy and stay healthy for the amount of time necessary to sustain a .600 pace or better for a long stretch, but perhaps it can be done.
by madvillian on Jun 26, 2009 11:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
look at the record
"Yes, the pitch in between the 2 home runs was HOF material.
Linebrink needs to be impaled by a trident." - Ozzie Montana 6-18-09
by e-gus on Jun 26, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
im reccing that because of your signature
After 5 minutes of trying to help this kid, the hurt would end up using him as a bat.
-rangerjae
by blackoutsox on Jun 28, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a wedding to attend tonight that was thrown together quickly and sort of intimate - the invitation is through evite, if that gives you any idea....
So on the evite, there is a link to ‘build the playlist’ (never seen that before).
You can search the music database (which seems quite large) and pick songs for the reception.
I just added Thunderstruck to the mix. Nothing sings of happiness quite like Thunderstruck….
;)
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 26, 2009 12:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
evite wedding....interesting
Probably some of the Hippie chicks I saw at the Phish show last weekend will be there.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jun 26, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt. If you'll recall my tales of my band friends, this is the bassist's wedding....
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 26, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone just discovered she was knocked up. That's my prediction.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jun 26, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha! same page wu.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Jun 26, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get her a stud finder from Home Depot in case the marriage doesn't work out.
Pronunciation: ho'kiz'um
Function: noun
1. A catch phrase commonly used by White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson.
2. Standard parlance of an incompetent hillbilly; staple of stylized speech patterns associated with South Carolinian trailer communities; used to "describe" an event (or even a sequence of events) without uttering more than 8 or 9 syllables; in essence, a substitute for original thought.
by Chiburb on Jun 26, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ChickenDance.
Pronunciation: ho'kiz'um
Function: noun
1. A catch phrase commonly used by White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson.
2. Standard parlance of an incompetent hillbilly; staple of stylized speech patterns associated with South Carolinian trailer communities; used to "describe" an event (or even a sequence of events) without uttering more than 8 or 9 syllables; in essence, a substitute for original thought.
by Chiburb on Jun 26, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When is the bride due? Will they moving into a double wide?
"I put up some beautiful number." – Sammy Sosa
"I wouldn't know a steroid from a reefer." - Lou Piniella
by tailgater on Jun 26, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very nice...actually, they've been together for 7 years and both are 30+. He lives in Seattle, she's from Vancouver. She just moved here last weekend (finally) and they have 30 days or something crazy like that, to get married.
They couldn’t plan a real date until she got her visa, which as you probably know, is no small chore.
So it makes sense. Limited time to plan it, limited funds…. In all honesty, I’ve never in my life met a couple who loved each other so much. Good people. :)
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 26, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
She's Vancouver, he's Seattle. Perfect song: Rainy Days and Mondays
Pronunciation: ho'kiz'um
Function: noun
1. A catch phrase commonly used by White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson.
2. Standard parlance of an incompetent hillbilly; staple of stylized speech patterns associated with South Carolinian trailer communities; used to "describe" an event (or even a sequence of events) without uttering more than 8 or 9 syllables; in essence, a substitute for original thought.
by Chiburb on Jun 26, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forget the red tape of getting a visa
She should become an “undocumented alien.”
Then she’ll get full, free health care benefits sometime in the next couple of years.
"I put up some beautiful number." – Sammy Sosa
"I wouldn't know a steroid from a reefer." - Lou Piniella
by tailgater on Jun 26, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow. that sounds ridiculous. is she knocked up?
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Jun 26, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a quick blasphemous comment
before the series…
but this guy is ok in my book despite his team
Hawk; "what would you do in that situation"
"id hit him" ;Stone
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jun 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he's a pussy:
Soto said the incident “embarrassed” him and added it has played on his mind since he first learned of the test results in late April.
“I just want to apologize to the Cubs organization, my family and the fans most of all.
“I just want to put this behind me. I don’t want this to be a distraction for me or my teammates. I’d appreciate if this is the last time we talk about it. It’s embarrassing.”
Soto said it was a “one-time thing,” and added he has passed a couple of random MLB drug tests since the start of the season.
Pronunciation: ho'kiz'um
Function: noun
1. A catch phrase commonly used by White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson.
2. Standard parlance of an incompetent hillbilly; staple of stylized speech patterns associated with South Carolinian trailer communities; used to "describe" an event (or even a sequence of events) without uttering more than 8 or 9 syllables; in essence, a substitute for original thought.
by Chiburb on Jun 26, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Insincere apologies are the best
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha, no shit...
he shoulda just said “so what??? i like to get wet…BFD, i didnt kill no one, i didnt rape no one”
nothin wrong with gettin blasted, save for that time i was playing 3rd in high school and took one to the dome literally as that hard chopper appeared to be bouncin in a little slower then it actually was
Hawk; "what would you do in that situation"
"id hit him" ;Stone
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jun 26, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Sox should play Jimi Hendrix music for his plate appearances
"I put up some beautiful number." – Sammy Sosa
"I wouldn't know a steroid from a reefer." - Lou Piniella
by tailgater on Jun 26, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love hendrix
but his music is stoner light, they should play some captain beefheart
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jun 26, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
her eyes are a blue million miles....
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 26, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you should listen to trout mask replica
and watch the segments of the captain beefheart documentary on youtube
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jun 26, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Quicksilver Messenger Service? Awsome stuff.
"I put up some beautiful number." – Sammy Sosa
"I wouldn't know a steroid from a reefer." - Lou Piniella
by tailgater on Jun 26, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know i hate those goddamn hippie/jam bands
like the dead, but a couple folks mentioned i would like quicksilver messenger service, i’ll check them out.
and i was being a smart ass with the comment above…jimmy is appropriate,
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jun 26, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
huh
guess i jumped the gun since you guys had a similar train of though.
But Nancy needs to play ‘sweetleaf’ from Sabbath or anything from Cypress Hill
"Yes, the pitch in between the 2 home runs was HOF material.
Linebrink needs to be impaled by a trident." - Ozzie Montana 6-18-09
by e-gus on Jun 26, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grazin' In The Grass
Hugh Masekela
Pronunciation: ho'kiz'um
Function: noun
1. A catch phrase commonly used by White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson.
2. Standard parlance of an incompetent hillbilly; staple of stylized speech patterns associated with South Carolinian trailer communities; used to "describe" an event (or even a sequence of events) without uttering more than 8 or 9 syllables; in essence, a substitute for original thought.
by Chiburb on Jun 26, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet Leaf
Black Sabbath
And you don't need a weatherman
To know which way the wind blows.
by oahu420 on Jun 26, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Green Green Grass Of Home"
Pronunciation: ho'kiz'um
Function: noun
1. A catch phrase commonly used by White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson.
2. Standard parlance of an incompetent hillbilly; staple of stylized speech patterns associated with South Carolinian trailer communities; used to "describe" an event (or even a sequence of events) without uttering more than 8 or 9 syllables; in essence, a substitute for original thought.
by Chiburb on Jun 26, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From "Hempliation Vol. 1" as found on Amazon.com
1. Rainy Day Women #12 & 35 – The Black Crowes
2. I Want to Take You Higher – Blues Traveler
3. I Wanna Get High – Cypress Hill
4. I Like Marijuana – David Peel, The 360’s
5. Don’t Step on the Grass, Sam – Gov’t Mule
6. Who’s Got the Herb? – 311
7. Convicted – Hater
8. Sweet Leaf – Sacred Reich
9. Smokin’ Cheeba Cheeba – The High Fidelity
10. Champagne & Reefer – Ian Band Moore
11. Legalize It – Sublime
12. In the Flow – Ziggy Marley
13. And It Stoned Me – Widespread Panic
14. Homegrown – Gus
15. High Time We Went – The Screamin’ Cheetah Wheelies
16. Pot Head Pixies – Raging Slab
17. Too Rolling Stoned – Drivin’ N’ Cryin’, Warren Haynes
"I put up some beautiful number." – Sammy Sosa
"I wouldn't know a steroid from a reefer." - Lou Piniella
by tailgater on Jun 26, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robin Trower's original version of #17 is the shizzle.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jun 26, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who's got the herb
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Jun 26, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont even remember recording #14
I used to smoke a LOT of pot though.
"Yes, the pitch in between the 2 home runs was HOF material.
Linebrink needs to be impaled by a trident." - Ozzie Montana 6-18-09
by e-gus on Jun 26, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greasy Grass River - Black Crowes
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 26, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OPOS Dude.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jun 26, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
baseball + drugs = chopping photoz

by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on Jun 26, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Nice use of the Gatorade cup.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 26, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade!!!!!!!!
Sox sent Corky Miller to the Reds for Norris Hopper
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by The Cheat on Jun 26, 2009 12:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The fire sale has begun. Wave the white flags boys.
Pronunciation: ho'kiz'um
Function: noun
1. A catch phrase commonly used by White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson.
2. Standard parlance of an incompetent hillbilly; staple of stylized speech patterns associated with South Carolinian trailer communities; used to "describe" an event (or even a sequence of events) without uttering more than 8 or 9 syllables; in essence, a substitute for original thought.
by Chiburb on Jun 26, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopper is the coolest.

"I put up some beautiful number." – Sammy Sosa
"I wouldn't know a steroid from a reefer." - Lou Piniella
by tailgater on Jun 26, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hawk; "what would you do in that situation"
"id hit him" ;Stone
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jun 26, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
from bsnyc
Hawk; "what would you do in that situation"
"id hit him" ;Stone
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jun 26, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Dennis. He's "old school crazy."
"I put up some beautiful number." – Sammy Sosa
"I wouldn't know a steroid from a reefer." - Lou Piniella
by tailgater on Jun 26, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sellout.
Effing Ameriprise “financial plan” horse$hIt commercials. I am serious.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jun 26, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's miserable. what happened to the junkie in apocalypse now? he
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Jun 26, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
's the voice of reason now?
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Jun 26, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is the worst sellout imaginable.
Easy Rider meets Easy Money. Horseshit.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jun 26, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he's healthy, maybe this isn't so bad. Light a fire under BA?
His ‘07 (injured ’08) in CIN looked better than we’re seeing now.
Pronunciation: ho'kiz'um
Function: noun
1. A catch phrase commonly used by White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson.
2. Standard parlance of an incompetent hillbilly; staple of stylized speech patterns associated with South Carolinian trailer communities; used to "describe" an event (or even a sequence of events) without uttering more than 8 or 9 syllables; in essence, a substitute for original thought.
by Chiburb on Jun 26, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was outstanding in 2007
What are his health issues?
"I put up some beautiful number." – Sammy Sosa
"I wouldn't know a steroid from a reefer." - Lou Piniella
by tailgater on Jun 26, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tommy John surgery in '08
per this article
by writchrd on Jun 26, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it means we have 3 crappy
catchers in AAA and our prized prospect in AA needs a place on the AAA roster. So, lets see if any of the crap we have in AAA has any value. The fact that it did is the amazing part. Adding any sort of OF depth is just a bonus. So, the answer to your question, is likely . . . no, this trade was not done for those reasons . . . which is not to say your scenario could not happen later on.
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
by jc2313 on Jun 26, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
surely you jest!
Formerly Crede's Crew
by Q!'s Qrew on Jun 26, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or corky wants to play in the majors and has a better chance of that in cincy and hopper wants to be closer to his offseason home outside of charlotte.
voila.
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
by larry on Jun 26, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, he isnt going to the majors
for Cincy either . . . and is really in the same spot as he was here. Would need an injury to open up a spot because neither Hernandez or Hanigan are going anywhere anytime soon. And I am sure he wants to play in the majors . . . but so does every other AAA’er. If Flowers was not in the org. or was not progressing this well, Miller would still be in Charlotte.
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
by jc2313 on Jun 26, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cincy was considering carrying three catchers as votto was out and hernandez was playing first.
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
by larry on Jun 26, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speed aboard! This just may put us over the top. .367 career MLB OBP
Formerly Crede's Crew
by Q!'s Qrew on Jun 26, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clearing space for T-Flow.
Who mentioned Corkscrew earlier this week when I postulated a promotion for T-Flow to AAA?
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jun 26, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for this H
just a thought mind, why have your expert services not been required on Bleed Cubbie Blue?
by hoodlight on Jun 26, 2009 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
do you mean a "mind thought"? that's where I keep mine.
Pronunciation: ho'kiz'um
Function: noun
1. A catch phrase commonly used by White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson.
2. Standard parlance of an incompetent hillbilly; staple of stylized speech patterns associated with South Carolinian trailer communities; used to "describe" an event (or even a sequence of events) without uttering more than 8 or 9 syllables; in essence, a substitute for original thought.
by Chiburb on Jun 26, 2009 1:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
to the hoodmeister
Pronunciation: ho'kiz'um
Function: noun
1. A catch phrase commonly used by White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson.
2. Standard parlance of an incompetent hillbilly; staple of stylized speech patterns associated with South Carolinian trailer communities; used to "describe" an event (or even a sequence of events) without uttering more than 8 or 9 syllables; in essence, a substitute for original thought.
by Chiburb on Jun 26, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fu
Pronunciation: ho'kiz'um
Function: noun
1. A catch phrase commonly used by White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson.
2. Standard parlance of an incompetent hillbilly; staple of stylized speech patterns associated with South Carolinian trailer communities; used to "describe" an event (or even a sequence of events) without uttering more than 8 or 9 syllables; in essence, a substitute for original thought.
by Chiburb on Jun 26, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you have a question for Hoodie or WU, plz reply to this post.
Pronunciation: ho'kiz'um
Function: noun
1. A catch phrase commonly used by White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson.
2. Standard parlance of an incompetent hillbilly; staple of stylized speech patterns associated with South Carolinian trailer communities; used to "describe" an event (or even a sequence of events) without uttering more than 8 or 9 syllables; in essence, a substitute for original thought.
by Chiburb on Jun 26, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mind, it's something we say round here at the end of sentences
to illicit a response, as you can see, it works.
by hoodlight on Jun 26, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
magic 8 ball
says “fuck yah”
Hawk; "what would you do in that situation"
"id hit him" ;Stone
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jun 26, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hawk says, "Yeeeeees! Hell yes!"
"I put up some beautiful number." – Sammy Sosa
"I wouldn't know a steroid from a reefer." - Lou Piniella
by tailgater on Jun 26, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wells - he's a bit old for the job these days non?
didn’t he throw a perfect game for the Yankees some time ago?
by hoodlight on Jun 26, 2009 1:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I met him at one of my local watering holes a few years back when he was pitching for LAD
Formerly Crede's Crew
by Q!'s Qrew on Jun 26, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually mate, I was...but he was well on his way... not big on conversation
Formerly Crede's Crew
by Q!'s Qrew on Jun 26, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you've got the wrong wells
"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH
by Illini0509 on Jun 26, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
awesome blog post
based on the analysis i predict the sox will break the team’s single game hr and gidp numbers.
by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on Jun 26, 2009 1:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WHARE IZ THE LINESUP?
Pronunciation: ho'kiz'um
Function: noun
1. A catch phrase commonly used by White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson.
2. Standard parlance of an incompetent hillbilly; staple of stylized speech patterns associated with South Carolinian trailer communities; used to "describe" an event (or even a sequence of events) without uttering more than 8 or 9 syllables; in essence, a substitute for original thought.
by Chiburb on Jun 26, 2009 1:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WHITE SOX
Podsednik lf
Ramirez ss
Dye rf
Thome dh
Konerko 1b
Castro c
Getz 2b
Anderson cf
Beckham 3b
Contreras p
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2009 2:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
THXZ
Pronunciation: ho'kiz'um
Function: noun
1. A catch phrase commonly used by White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson.
2. Standard parlance of an incompetent hillbilly; staple of stylized speech patterns associated with South Carolinian trailer communities; used to "describe" an event (or even a sequence of events) without uttering more than 8 or 9 syllables; in essence, a substitute for original thought.
by Chiburb on Jun 26, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need to come up with a Pods nickname,
since he is the only guy to have any walk-offs this year.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jun 26, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the mayor
"Yes, the pitch in between the 2 home runs was HOF material.
Linebrink needs to be impaled by a trident." - Ozzie Montana 6-18-09
by e-gus on Jun 26, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes!
After 5 minutes of trying to help this kid, the hurt would end up using him as a bat.
-rangerjae
by blackoutsox on Jun 28, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wonder how creative the Sox fans will be with their signs about Geo?
They’d have to first
get out of their meth labs to make one.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2009 2:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gosh, they're good. So clever on that side of town.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 26, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is cork flying out of Sosa's mouth?
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jun 26, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who is he running into?
"I put up some beautiful number." – Sammy Sosa
"I wouldn't know a steroid from a reefer." - Lou Piniella
by tailgater on Jun 26, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Loretta, maybe?
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jun 26, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That'd be quite interesting, seeing that Loretta has never been a Cub
I think that’s Hollandsworth.
by CWSKeith on Jun 26, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a small OF glove.
I thought it was a 2B. And Hollandsworth throws lefty.
DB. ;)
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jun 26, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ironically, this will happen in the game
After 5 minutes of trying to help this kid, the hurt would end up using him as a bat.
-rangerjae
by blackoutsox on Jun 26, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But wait, it's getting better
Tommy Chong chimes in
Geovany Soto is fat and having a wretched season for the Cubs. Apparently that is okay with you in the spirit of your embrace of pot smoking.
$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.
by BLou on Jun 25, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG HE EMBRACES POT SMOKING!!! JUST LIKE THAT FUCKING SOCIALIST IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHERE ARE MY BIG BOPPER RECORDS AND WHY IS THERE A COLORED MAN ON MY WHEATIES BOX????
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2009 2:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds a Sanford email to Maria: "the spirit of your embrace".
Pronunciation: ho'kiz'um
Function: noun
1. A catch phrase commonly used by White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson.
2. Standard parlance of an incompetent hillbilly; staple of stylized speech patterns associated with South Carolinian trailer communities; used to "describe" an event (or even a sequence of events) without uttering more than 8 or 9 syllables; in essence, a substitute for original thought.
by Chiburb on Jun 26, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could've said sounds "like", but I've been reading Hoodie all day.
Pronunciation: ho'kiz'um
Function: noun
1. A catch phrase commonly used by White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson.
2. Standard parlance of an incompetent hillbilly; staple of stylized speech patterns associated with South Carolinian trailer communities; used to "describe" an event (or even a sequence of events) without uttering more than 8 or 9 syllables; in essence, a substitute for original thought.
by Chiburb on Jun 26, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has your package arrived, stoner?
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jun 26, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who do you think he is, Dan Pasqua?
"I put up some beautiful number." – Sammy Sosa
"I wouldn't know a steroid from a reefer." - Lou Piniella
by tailgater on Jun 26, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dye's Homer
Nice call by Harry on the Change up. Not enough speed differential, and Dye was just able to sit on it.
by Broadcastaway on Jun 26, 2009 3:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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