Neyer: White Sox not in AL Central conversation
The Tigers might be fine if they don't do a thing. If the Twins don't catch them, who will?
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i guess we can officially make our plans for october now.
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jackson, porcello, and verlander
larry,
how do you think floyd, buerhle, and danks stand collectively against those three?
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jun 30, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Sell Kenny - what do you think we can get for him?
Remember when "Cuban Pride" meant something...
by Brush Back on Jun 30, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't subscribe to Neyer's newsletter
But, I don’t think that saying the Twins are the biggest threat to the Tigers is controversial. The Sox are -11 run differential to the Twins +25. The Twins didn’t have Mauer for a bunch of games. The Twins have excellent starting pitching depth and Liriano looked great in his start. The Sox have a pretty wretched offense which is currently reliant on Pods pixiedust holding out and they also have question marks at 2 rotation spots.
So, I don’t think that this was a big slap in the face to the Sox.
by hitlesswonder on Jun 30, 2009 12:44 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree with this for the most part
But I feel like our offense will turn around and that we weren’t playing the way we can for the rest of the season. If Quentin can return and play like he did last season our offense will get a major boost.
Let’s ride this stretch of games into the All-Star break and see where we’re at
I was just stirrin' shit
Cowley style ;)
I know the name Neyer moves the dials, so clipping an apparent slight (real or not) from an entry about the Tigers rotation is just me trolling for invective commentary
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by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jun 30, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
why couldnt you get that link from fark today?
member of a "solid community of fans" and "a meathead."
Oh no, they're moving the goalposts now
Now I gotta have 5000 visits and 25 new registered users…. Get crackin’ guys
:p
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You really want to see Jersey Boys?
Im canceling my account!
"It doesn't take long for a Rolls Royce to warm up." - Hawk Harrelson
Mandatory play-by-play each game going forward
You have any idea what Jersey Boy tickets are worth on the open market?
Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.
You'd get more visits if you broke the game threads in parts...
Nobody wants to wade through 700+ posts.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
Dye swings.
Strike one.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 30, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
No, two threads at 350/piece is much more inviting.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 30, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't that what I said?
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
I was agreeing since nobody takes a crazy OPOS like you seriously.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 30, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Really. I meant it. This ain't LL... I want at least 2 gamethreads per game (depending on activity of course).
Of course if this were LL, we’d be the 7th best baseball blog, not the shitty 8th place blog.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 30, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
My hatred of Neyer is on record.
But that being said, is it really too difficult to at least mention the possibility of someone TIED with the Twins currently, seeing their top 4 SP’s all rounding into shape, perhaps being able to COMPETE? I mean, fer Chrissakes, a mere MENTION of the Sox being TIED with the Twins and having at least a SNOWBALL’S chance (if Q returns healthy, if Becks/Getzy continue to improve, if Che continues his seasonal improvement, if the pen holds together, etc) might’ve been a bit more complete. DB has a blind spot when it comes to the Sox.
Effing Neyer. Now I am on the Tdogg bandwagon. ARE YOU READY FOR A WAR? YYYYYYYYYYEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jun 30, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
neyer is a backer of pecota, no?
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jun 30, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes but lately he's been really lazy for some reason.
His columns have been filled with, what did fangraphs write?
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
okay, because i would think it's predictable that he's down on the sox...
and everybody is getting lazy these days including the editors from this site ;)
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jun 30, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
By the way
BP latest 3rd win records are
Twins 41.8- 36.3
Detroit 37.5-38.5
Sox 37.4-38.6
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
"The Twins have excellent starting pitching depth and Liriano looked great in his start."
And yet the White Sox grades better.
Truth be told the Sox had a wretched May offensively. That is the real difference (April and June the team OPS’d higher than the Twins). Even with all that guess who is tied with Minnesota record wise?
The team is showing signs of life offensively.
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
i'll take small sample results like that all the time
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jun 30, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't disagree with what he wrote about the Tiger's needs (4/5 starters)
Which is another reason I’m optimistic about the Sox.
Btw, : Figaro is in Toledo. Lucas French is #5.
Pronunciation: ho'kiz'um
Function: noun
1. A catch phrase commonly used by White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson.
2. Standard parlance of an incompetent hillbilly; staple of stylized speech patterns associated with South Carolinian trailer communities; used to "describe" an event (or even a sequence of events) without uttering more than 8 or 9 syllables; in essence, a substitute for original thought.
4th and 5th. But you knew that.
Pronunciation: ho'kiz'um
Function: noun
1. A catch phrase commonly used by White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson.
2. Standard parlance of an incompetent hillbilly; staple of stylized speech patterns associated with South Carolinian trailer communities; used to "describe" an event (or even a sequence of events) without uttering more than 8 or 9 syllables; in essence, a substitute for original thought.
I read it as "four-fifths starters".
Like Colon or Broadway (RIP).
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
He's ballooned since going off the 'roids.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
In a nutshell,
being .500 at this point without having the services for much of the season of the Sox’ best slugger from last year makes me completely happy. I’m not so sure that many here at SSS would have predicted .500 right now WITH Q all season. It sure keeps it interesting and keeps me coming back to read all this nonsense every day. After all, Cheat obviously is going to bring one of us (fingers crossed!) to Jersey Boys….
We're not speaking right now
I’m still hurt by the fact that she didn’t invite me to the wedding this weekend
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She'd like to go in a motorized vehicle,
not on the back of your bike. A girl’s gotta have standards.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
I don't know... it's a pretty great view back there
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What's the prize for driving people away from SSS, 4 tickets to Jersey Boys?
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
by Chiburb on Jun 30, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Editor.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jun 30, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
beat me to the punch
That’s what Larry’s for
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by The Cheat on Jun 30, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's not doing a good job lately. Maybe you should lighten up on the shock collar so he can be more effective.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 30, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
i'll delete your SSS existence in a second.
there is nothing that allows SSS posters, at any one moment, to keep posting, but the mere pleasure of larry.
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Ah, the obligatory 3rd person reference.
All is right with SSS. larry must be back from picking over some poor wretched company’s bankrupt bones.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by "the mere pleasure of larry," i mean my sovereign pleasure, my arbitrary will, restrained by no obligation, hindered by no manner of difficulty.
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angry god, you are!
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 30, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Cheat - terminate him, with extreme prejudice
He’s out there operating without any decent restraint, totally beyond the pale of any acceptable human conduct. And he is still in the field commanding troops.
Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.
by ChicagoPete on Jun 30, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's f-ed up.
"I put up some beautiful number." – Sammy Sosa
"I wouldn't know a steroid from a reefer." - Lou Piniella
That's one way of describing Pol Pot's doings, yes.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 30, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Cheat, I think it is fortuitous you are missing the wedding.
The bridal bouquet is a mother to catch.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
I'm dying here. Recs for all the OPsOS!
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 30, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
rob neyer...
proof that no matter how dumb you are you can get the job you want.
Rob was good before the Internet basically produced a million Rod Neyers willing to learn new tricks
On some level I feel bad for the guy, he really was innovative for a major newspaper guy, but he’s just been completely eclipsed by the level of analysis no freely available online.
I wouldn’t feel that bad, he’s still got a solid job. It’s not like he’s hurting to eke out a living right now.
by Grinder in Training on Jun 30, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
my previous statement is actually false...
he was just lucky he happened to be bill james’ errand boy on a bunch of books, thus leading to his ESPN gig.
"Bill James' errand boy" = "Girl Friday".
I seeth when I read most of his stuff.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
i haven't read a thing of his in probably 5-7 years
i’m a quick learner.
Familiar prediction....
Didn’t those doooooossshhheees say the same thing last year?
" i'm sure you've been right on something at some point."
-by Larry on May 28, 2009 4:55 PM PST
the BTF thread on under/overperforming PECOTA
From earlier this year is a must read. Only the Angels do a better job of outperforming the expectations year in and year out then the White Sox.
One of my favorite theories is that magic juju juice that Herm and Cooper and KW sprinkle on the starting pitchers, making the Sox assured of getting more quality innings from their starters than almost every other team on a year in year out basis.
yeah i remember this read too, and perhaps it ties into producing a comprehensive approach (statistical, scouting/fan base knowledge) in evaluating and projecting player and team performance
that cheat that is trying to encourage with the community projections
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jun 30, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
the "wisdom of the crowd" approach that Tango and the rest of the online Community
works on with the community projections, is surprisingly effective as prediction tool. I think it’s great that that is out there. It’s a great time to be a fan.
I don't know
Maybe there is something in the water regarding starting pitchers/innings for the White Sox. Some of it is a head scratcher.
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
It's Buehrle...he single-handedly screws up up the relation of stats to wins
He’s like the anti-Vazquez
by hitlesswonder on Jun 30, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Cubs-White Sox makeup game set for Sept. 3 at Wrigley Field, teams announce. Start is 1:20 p.m.
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wha?
i bet if the cubs was the supposed rubber match then there wouldn’t have been a make-up game (provided playoff pictures don’t factor for either).
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jun 30, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
using my hate to cloud the self serving interests of the man
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jun 30, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
kind of hard on Sept 3rd
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
gonna be tough for that to happen.
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Every.Game.Matters.
:)
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 30, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
that start time is lame. i was looking forward to seeing exactly how much of a clusterfuck a night cubs/sox game would be
in all of its “drunk and disorderly” glory
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Jun 30, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
That article is exactly like the Holocaust. Except a million times worse.
by The Actual El Guapo on Jun 30, 2009 1:48 PM CDT reply actions
Do you even KNOW how many Jews died in the writing of this article?
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 30, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
So have you dissed Cheat because he was going to show up for the wedding on his Huffy?
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
Congrats on the re-election! Wasn't even close.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
At least a million. Maybe 6 million times worse.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
apparently a poll of 350 players
Q: who would you least like to play for?
- lou pinella 26%
- ozzie 21%
Were there more results to that? Just curious who else got some percentages....
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 30, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
hachetm meant to link to the post.
but that, too, got cut off
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yeah there were..
boers and bernstein were talking about it. not sure what the reference is. i think torre was #3. seems like players don’t want to play for good managers.
Racist.
Latin blood – too macho, too tempermental. Well they can all kiss my Italian a$$!
(Oh.)
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
Woo hoo! ChiTown in the Top 2!
"I put up some beautiful number." – Sammy Sosa
"I wouldn't know a steroid from a reefer." - Lou Piniella
Gee, Sweet Lou had a run-in last week with a lunatic.
And Guillen “has publicly disparaged several former players”.
What a bunch of jerks.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
Ozzie "keeps it real," yo!
On the other hand, Lou is like a grouchy old uncle.
"I put up some beautiful number." – Sammy Sosa
"I wouldn't know a steroid from a reefer." - Lou Piniella
Well if you have to be disliked to be grouped with Joe Torre & La Russa I’d say that’s a compliment. But really it just looks like the 4 most famous managers out there got the most votes, is that a surprise?
Considering how many guys stay here for even money or less (MB, Konerko, Dye, etc..) obviously some people don’t dislike playing for the guy. Who is the last guy to ask for a trade from the White Sox?
by Grinder in Training on Jun 30, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
You mean Don Wakamatsu wasn't gonna lead the voting?
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2 words:
Jim. Riggleman. My wife thinks he’s cute.
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by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
this isn't the
which manager would you want to have sex with poll.
I smell a new WU fanpost coming....
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 30, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I am the oldest living 13 year-old, yes.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
It just might be for Che,
looking at that picture from last night.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
wusses
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
Dusty not #1?
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
I've started a diet today
I was going to ask for advice on here, but that’s like someone on here asking me for dental care tips. So I won’t bother.
sheep's intestines.
WU"s wife swears by it.
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Bangers and mash...whatever that is
"I put up some beautiful number." – Sammy Sosa
"I wouldn't know a steroid from a reefer." - Lou Piniella
still a few butchers sell that round here
it’s very popular in Southern Italy as well surprisingly enough
so, i gave up the booze like a week ago...
and i’ve never felt worse.
It's called withdrawal.
It explains a lot this week, hatch.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
Fried fish and potatoes
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 30, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
meat, fruit, veggies
shitty food only in small portions
"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH
The only one that works is...
Ingesting fewer calories than you expend. Unless this is a crash diet, just reduce daily consumption by 350 calories. That’s about 1 piece of cake, or a medium milk shake. Eliminating the 350 should reduce you by a pound in 10 days or so, or 3 pounds in a month. No exercise required.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
yep
portions are key
"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH
um, the CDC recommends a moderate regimen of exercise (e.g. 30 min/day for general public) along with changes in diet to maintain weight loss
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jun 30, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Central Division Champs?
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
Central Division Champs?
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
Please, you can't even respond to OSFIB without being infected!
RUN AWAY!
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
no where to hide on SSS old man
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jun 30, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
um, the CDC recommends a moderate regimen of exercise (e.g. 30 min/day for general public) along with changes in diet to maintain weight loss
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jun 30, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Central Divsion Champs 85?
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 30, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
WHITE SOX
Nix lf
Ramirez ss
Dye rf
Konerko dh
Pierzynski c
Anderson cf
Beckham 3b
Getz 2b
Fields 1b
Richard p
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You are looking at Getz
and passing over Fields? Go grab some whiskey. Your eyes are effed.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
All we are saaaaaaying
is give Nix a chance.
"I put up some beautiful number." – Sammy Sosa
"I wouldn't know a steroid from a reefer." - Lou Piniella
by tailgater on Jun 30, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
jesus told me
to follow fields to the promised land.
Can we win without Pods?
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jun 30, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Magic 8 Ball says...no.
Unless Chris Perez gets the call.
"I put up some beautiful number." – Sammy Sosa
"I wouldn't know a steroid from a reefer." - Lou Piniella
oh great, a sunday lineup
Formerly Crede's Crew
mumbles something about handedness.
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speaking on that
the Tribe seem to be custom made for lefties.
This will be a tough one for our Sox.
"It doesn't take long for a Rolls Royce to warm up." - Hawk Harrelson
wat? nix leadoff?
After 5 minutes of trying to help this kid, the hurt would end up using him as a bat.
-rangerjae
i hope they play like it's saturday
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jun 30, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
But why no Ramone?
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
ask yourself who is pitching tomorrow
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Smelz like cubanz
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
not to mention that the sox face lefties in the next three games.
AJ ain’t sitting for all of them.
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Pierzynski/Anderson behind Konerko leaves something to be desired
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Not as much as HSA behind Cheat on the bike.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
Regarding the managers poll
The top 4 have won a hell of a lot of championships and probably made a lof of enemies along the way. LaRussa has had a feud with about every team in the majors at some point in his career. The Torre vote is baffling and has more to do with Yankee hate than anything else. The dislike for Ozzie has more to do with perception through the media than reality. Redneck douches like Oswalt and Peavy want no part of Ozzie becuse they play in no pressure media markets and want to be idolized without being challenged.
I'll bet the Torre book won him no new player friends.
As big of an A-hole A-Roid is, no one likes to see a player called out in public, especially after leaving. And I’m even tired of the “St. Joe” stuff.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
hating on cancer survivors is like hating on jews my friend
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jun 30, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
i just learned that kyle farnsworth has 2 dogs, and their names are strike and rambo.
my life is now complete.
brian anderson would've caught that...
As is mine.
If he has a third, it’d have to be Judge Dredd.
Chicago White Sox Examiner — Your what hurts?
by UribeAuction on Jun 30, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
or Italian Stallion
"I put up some beautiful number." – Sammy Sosa
"I wouldn't know a steroid from a reefer." - Lou Piniella
John Spartan
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Jun 30, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
if he gets two new dogs: Kitty and Stud
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Jun 30, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
carl crawford
on pace to steal 80 bags for the first time since 1988 (coleman).
Rehab is a beeyatch, ain't it, hatch?
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
my mind is racing
i can’t concentrate on anything.
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