This Week in White Sox Minor League Baseball
This week, I'm truncating the news and publishing larry's Official SSS Top Ten White Sox Prospects List after the jump:
- The Dominican Summer League opened play and the White Sox have the aptly named DSL White Sox participating. While it is inherently difficult to get solid information regarding the players in this league, the famous/infamous 18/35 year old Juan Silverio is playing and off to a hot start. I'll let others wax on about the rumors surrounding his $600,000 signing. I will, however, be watching him and a few other players, such as 2B Daurys Mercedes and C Jamie Del Valle. All of the players in the league are years away from ever even sniffing the majors but are worth some attention.
- Jose Contreras made one final start at Charlotte before his call-up for Monday's game: 6.2 IP, 3 hits, 4 BB, 3 K.
- Sox Machine recapped the month of May for Charlotte and Birmingham and Winston-Salem and Kannapolis.
- Finally, there were a couple odd stories this week from the low minors. First, Sergio Santos, who some may rememeber was a non-roster invitee this spring training and played third base, has re-surfaced in Kannapolis as a pitcher. Next, after an injury to one of the two umpires, Winston-Salem's Christian Marrero had his offday cut short when he was pressed into service as a replacement umpire.
First, a brief discussion of methodology. It's an alchemy. I think about tools, current skills, makeup, ceiling and likelihood of reaching that ceiling. And then I mash it together. One could probably say that pitchers are at a disadvantage in this because of their increased likelihood of injury. I also am not a fan of numerical listings. What does it mean to be #2 if the gaps to #1 and #3, respectively, are of markedly different sizes? That's why I prefer groupings. Here, I would probably put Beckham by himself, #2-3 together, #4-5 together, #6 all alone, and then #7-10 together (and, no, there was no one left off who would make the last group).
1. Gordon Beckham, 3B: The organization’s clear top prospect received the call-up he deserved this week so he won’t be eligible for this list much longer. At every level – Class A, Arizona Fall League, AA, AAA – Beckham was superlative. While the shift to third base will raise additional and different questions about his glove than there were about it at shortstop, the bat will make up for it. His line drive swing should result in lots of doubles and the Cell will carry a lot of his hits out, as well. Path to the majors: Arrived.
2. Tyler Flowers, C: The heir apparent to the top spot has improved his standing this season with some superb hitting for the Barons. Many observers – including this one – would be able to make a pretty good argument that his bat is ready for the majors right now. Behind the plate, however, he requires a good deal more seasoning but the White Sox are adamant that he will be a major league catcher. Path to the majors: Flowers has a clear, though measured, path – he is the organization’s only prospect of any note at the position and A.J.Pierzynski, whose contract is up after next season, should play well enough to squelch any calls to prematurely promote him. Expect a call-up to Charlotte sometime in the second half with a late 2010 arrival.
3. Aaron Poreda, SP: The organization’s top pitching prospect returned to AA this season to continue working with J.R. Perdew. While his fastball has never been questioned, his secondary offerings always have. In the past, scouts have overwhelmingly predicted a future in the bullpen; recently, however, his slider and changeup have become more consistent – though still need work – and opinion has shifted to a more even divide between rotation and relief. The White Sox have been patient with Poreda, consistently resisting calls to bring him up, and their patience may be rewarded. Path to the majors: He’s ready now for the bullpen (and has been for awhile) but needs the rest of the year in the minors to develop as a starter. Expect a September call-up and a spot in next season’s Opening Day rotation.
4. Brandon Allen, 1B: Once described by a member of the front office as the organization’s "sleeping giant," Allen awoke in a big way last season and has continued to produce this season. While he’s a big man at 6'2'' and 230+, he’s very athletic with surprising speed on the basepaths and plays solid defense at first. Path to the majors: With Thome’s contract up and Konerko getting to the age where he’d benefit from more days off from the field, the left-handed hitting Allen should slot right in. Expect a June promotion to Charlotte and a mid 2010 arrival.
5. Jordan Danks, CF: You can bet that, once Beckhamania dies down, the next savior for whom fans will be clamoring is Danks. Always a toolsy player, at Texas Danks never fulfilled the promise with production. Because of this and a perception that he would finish his college eligibility, he dropped to the White Sox in the seventh round where they scooped him up for a well over-slot bonus. Such "scouting," as Hawk and Stone describe it, has paid handsome dividends so far: his numbers after promotion to Birmingham (.348/.419/.489) have been nearly idential to those at Winston-Salem. The K rate remains worrisome but his production – not to mention his above-average defense – is hard to ignore. Another positive is that, consistent with his collegiate history, the left-handed hitting Danks has an acceptable platoon split. Path to the majors: Another guy with a clear path, expect a second-half promotion to Charlotte and a mid-2010 arrival.
6. Dayan Viciedo, 3B: The hype machine has moved on from Viciedo after a piss-poor start to his minor league career. At the time, I cautioned patience because of his extreme youth compared to most of his peers. Soon after, he began to hit for a higher average – he’s now up to .286. The next step will be to add the power expected from a man with his attributes. After that, it would be hoped that some measure of plate discipline could be attained. His defense at third is butcherific so a position change is likely in order. Path to the majors: Slow and steady. He’s going to need a full year at Birmingham. Assuming he adds the power in the second half, he may start 2010 in AAA. But, at 20 and without a clear defensive position, the White Sox can afford to be restrained with their pricey investment. Mid-2011 arrival.
7. Dexter Carter, SP: His classic fastball-curve combo has befuddled Class A hitters so far this season. His K/9 is 11.88, though his dominance shouldn’t be surprising considering his advanced collegiate background. One issue for Carter is the necessity to develop his changeup into a legitimate pitch; otherwise, his future is in relief. Another concern, especially in this organization, is his fly-ball tendencies. Nevertheless, his raw ability is tantalizing. Path to the majors: A promotion to Winston-Salem is in the cards for June. After that, hope for a steady climb up the ladder. 2012 arrival.
8. Jon Link, RP: With a fastball and slider that can be vicious to opposing hitters, Link has the makeup of an aggressive closer. While his walk rate still is a concern of mine, his strikeout rate has remained high. Consistent with organizational philosophy, Link, though a closer, has experience pitching more than an inning in relief. Path to the majors: In other years, we probably would have already seen Link. Thus far, the bullpen has been strong; however, with each of Dotel, Jenks, and Linebrink showing some fragility in the recent past, a hard-throwing righty may be needed later on in the year and that’s when Link will arrive.
9. John Shelby, UTIL: Often lost in the background of the top prospects, Shelby quietly continues to improve. While his numbers this season are a bit non-descript, some of that can be attributed to a low BABIP. He also has cut his strikeout rate while increasing his walk rate. The arrival of Danks has short-circuited the CF experiment but Shelby continues to project as a solid utility player, with a Willie Harris-esque ability to play all outfield positions and second base. Path to the majors: Since he does nothing spectacular and no longer has the CF track to himself, his path is less clear. Likely will spend the rest of the season in AA and start the next in AAA. Mid-2011 arrival.
10. Daniel Hudson, SP: This righty tore through the SAL but has found Advanced A ball a bit more challenging. He’s kept the K rate high but more polished hitters are walking more against him. He has a 91-93 MPH fastball with good movement but often relies on a slider to get strikeouts and hitters are beginning to lay off. Hudson will need to adjust and how he adjusts will dictate his future - tonight's outing was a nice start. Path to the majors: Like Carter, hope for a slow and steady climb up the ladder. 2012 arrival.
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minor moves.
kelvin jimenez was outrighted off the 40 man roster. corky miller, while apparently accepting assignment to charlotte, isn’t actually there.
http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/team/transactions.jsp?c_id=cws#month=6&year=2009&team_id=145
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by larry on Jun 6, 2009 12:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
looking at poreda's splits, it looks like he's having plenty of success against righties
but has struggled with walks to lefties. from that i infer that he’s struggled more with his slider than his change. true/false?
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by colintj on Jun 6, 2009 12:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i wouldn't say that's necessarily true
but i’ve only followed closely about half his appearances. again, there is a lot of odd sequencing of pitches going on so i’m not sure how accurate one can really be with poreda without watching (like, literally seeing) each appearance. bloom isn’t necessarily the most descriptive with what’s happening, especially when miss alabama is in the booth.
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by larry on Jun 6, 2009 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it'd be nice if milb.tv went to birmingham
anyway, here are the crunched numbers:
’08
LHB: K 31% of batters faced, BB 8.3% of batters faced
RHB: 17.3%, 5.6%
’09
LHB: 32%, 21%
RHB: 23.3%, 9.4%
in any case, i’m pretty sure he isn’t throwing change ups to lefties. i don’t know what Perdew’s philosophy on the slider is, but i’d hope they’re keeping it relatively simple for him. you’re right though, it’s conjecture without visual evidence.
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by colintj on Jun 6, 2009 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
has to be on tv first.
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by larry on Jun 6, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This makes me feel better.
The present is horrid, but the future could rock.
Ed Farmer: "Is it raining in here?"
Steve Stone: "I've made an egregious mistake."
by RWShow on Jun 6, 2009 12:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that's why it was posted tonight instead of the morning.
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by larry on Jun 6, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the update!
As always, a good read and very informative.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jun 6, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's some heads up moderating right there
Shutouts have been done to death.
Always good to see talent in the pipeline.
Almost enough to take a road trip to Birmingham….almost.
Anyone been to B-town? Is there enough non-baseball stuff to do?
by 67WMAQ on Jun 6, 2009 1:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you can certainly make an afternoon out of the world’s largest cast iron statue.
there’s stuff to do but, coming from a place like chicago, none of it is really that great. if you’ve been to lincoln park zoo, their zoo isn’t that good. if you’ve been to the art institute, their art museum isn’t that good. there’s some stuff unique to them but it isn’t all that exciting.
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by larry on Jun 6, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Malls. Not much else. It's pretty outside the downtown area -
stfuu we don’t see in the flatlands, like rolling hills! I’d take a drive south toward Montgomery and just relax.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jun 6, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1/3rd of the way to 27
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by The Cheat on Jun 6, 2009 1:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is there any hope for Drew O'Neill?
I was really excited having read his scouting reports, thinking that he could be a valuable ground-ball machine in the pen by 2010, but his numbers have been lackluster at best.
by Craig Grebeck on Jun 6, 2009 1:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i have been similarly unimpressed.
to where did the Ks disappear?
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by larry on Jun 6, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet recap and projections.
Thank you.
The City of Chicago, led by Mayor Daley and a vast and tumorous army of aldermen and bagmen and yesmen and opportunists and spineless, parasitic political-machine halfwits of forms never seen outside the roiling cesspool of governmental slop-trough greed, has proven itself unworthy of something as potentially delicious and fulfilling as the 2016 Olympic Games.
- Rick Telander
by Chiburb on Jun 6, 2009 6:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
does anyone know
of particular players of note in the prospect league at the moment. i plan on going to some danville dans or springfield sliders games.
brian anderson would've caught that...
by BuehrleMan on Jun 6, 2009 8:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
fyi: '05 ALCS game 5 on MLBN
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Jun 6, 2009 12:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Juan Silverio.....
Is it Hoytsstash, or does that sound like a porn-name to you?
Your first pet’s name + the street you grew-up on ?
" i'm sure you've been right on something at some point."
-by Larry on May 28, 2009 4:55 PM PST
by Hoytsstash on Jun 6, 2009 12:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
by the way, Larry
I don’t mean to minimize your writing, I have always enjoyed it, but I laughed out loud when I read that name
" i'm sure you've been right on something at some point."
-by Larry on May 28, 2009 4:55 PM PST
by Hoytsstash on Jun 6, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't create the names, i just write them.
just think if bastardo was a sox prospect.
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by larry on Jun 6, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My personal favorite is Twins pitching prospect
Jeff Manship
by 3E8 on Jun 6, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hes more ship than man.
It's like he's a cyborg sent from the future to draw 22 walks a season or something.
by omnipotent grab on Jun 6, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, Larry.
Time to show Greg Walker the door.
by ballyb on Jun 6, 2009 12:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No Beckham Today
Podsednik lf
Ramirez ss
Thome dh
Konerko 1b
Pierzynski c
Fields 3b
Nix rf
Getz 2b
Anderson cf
by DirtySox on Jun 6, 2009 12:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
another lineup for the ages
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart
by Jbasic89 on Jun 6, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
over or under .5 runs?
ill take the under
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart
by Jbasic89 on Jun 6, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like WOW. 5/9.
Podsednik lf
Fields 3b
Nix rf
Getz 2b
Anderson cf
Time to show Greg Walker the door.
by ballyb on Jun 6, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot how mlb suspensions work
Did JD have to serve it right away once his appeal was denied?
Is it still the fourth inning?
by vince_ on Jun 6, 2009 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yep
You’re allowed to play as long as you have an open appeal, but if it’s denied you serve it immediately. Most guys just keep their appeal going until the schedule is favorable and serve their suspension
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by The Cheat on Jun 6, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there hope for Dayan to be anything more than a DH?
Not in and of itself, but in the context of this team. It seems a safe assumption that he won’t displace Allen at 1B.
If Larry’s call-up times are right, I’m ready to call off the next season and a half to get to 2011—our roster at year’s end looks something like:
Starters -
1. Buehrle
2. Danks 1
3. BHB
4. Aaron Poreda
5. Clayton Richard / Dexter Carter?? (fingers crossed for an early arrival, if merited)
Position Players -
1. Danks 2 (CF)
2. Savior (3B)
3. Q! (LF)
4. T-Flow ©
5. BA part deux (1B)
6. DV (DH)
7. TBD on Tuesday (RF)
8. Getz / Shelby (2B)
9. Alexei (SS)
That’s a squad that can flat-out rake. I count 6 capable of 25-30+ HR, 2-3 with 25-30+ SB potential. Obviously a lot needs to pan out, but to me that seems like a team that’s a trade or two away from being a serious championship contender.
by onthemark12 on Jun 6, 2009 2:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If Larry’s call-up times are right, I’m ready to call off the next season
let’s go for bryce harper!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jun 6, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
harper is going to make himself eligible for next year.
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by larry on Jun 6, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
then we have to for it this season!
just DFA pods
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by The Wizard on Jun 6, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Answer to our problems became clear
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/06/royals-dfa-horacio-ramirez.html
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jun 6, 2009 2:18 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
once Beckhamania dies down
what you talking about larry?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jun 6, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Where would Jhonny Nnunnez fit?
Comments on hhim?
Time to show Greg Walker the door.
by ballyb on Jun 7, 2009 7:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if i were doing a top 25 list, he'd make that.
i’m not a huge fan of relief prospects with spotty control who don’t get many groundballs. there’s the potential to be an effective major league reliever but i like to see a demonstration of those skills before i rank players like him higher.
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by larry on Jun 7, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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