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Contreras & Castro Combine To Topple Tribe

White Sox roll to season-high 5-game win streak, 2 games over .500

Hey, guys! Come look! Quick! I can see first place from up here!

Jose Contreras continued his surprising return with another strong 8-inning performance Wednesday night. He's gone 8 innings in all of his victories this season, all 3 of them. I kid.

The Sox are 3-2 in Contreras starts since his return from self-imposed AAA exile, with 4 quality starts and both losses coming by just one run. Contreras, like Floyd (and, to a lesser extent, Danks) has turned his season around. Suddenly the Sox look like serious contenders in the underwhelming AL Central. (We're all Tdogg, now)

A certain amount of credit has to go to Ramon Castro, who delivered the big blow at the plate tonight with a game-breaking 3-run HR. Contreras has thrived with him behind the plate, mostly because he has improved command of all his pitches. But there's still some credit that needs to be given to Castro, who boosted Jose's confidence with some encouraging words from Livan Hernandez, and maybe, just maybe, makes him beam with Cuban Pride simply by being named 'Castro.'

Jose Contreras' turnaround

W-L G IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
Before Demotion 0-5 6 29.2 40 30 27 4 16 17 8.19 1.89
After Return 3-2 5 37.1 24 10 9 3 5 29 2.17 0.78
Total 3-7 11 67.0 64 40 36 7 21 46 4.84 1.27

Star-divide

If you were to graph the Sox season this year, the two previous high points would have fallen on May 1st and June 1st. They sat at 2-games over .500 and a half-game up on the division in the former, and had just completed their first sweep of the season en route to a then-season-high 4-game winning streak in the latter. So now that's it's July 1st and they've climbed back to within 3 games of the Tigers and have a now-season-high 5-game streak, I'm a bit wary of getting too excited.

Ozzie feels the same way.

"When Kenny asked me about it, I was honest about it," Guillen said. "I said, 'Well Kenny, you got to give me another week to be honest with you because right now I'm confused.' And I told you guys in the media, I'm confused. I don't hide anything, that's my problem. I'm confused. One day we play good, three days we play bad. Of course I have to be confused, we were like 10 games under .500, that's not a good team. Or we a good team playing real bad.

"Little by little, we've started to hit better, the kids start contributing a little bit more, and they take the heat away from the big boys when they start doing more. Then [John] Danks and Gavin [Floyd] and [Clayton] Richard are starting to contribute by pitching well. To have Jose [Contreras] come back and pitch the way he has, it's like we traded for somebody. The ballclub right now is great. How long are we going to be great? Hopefully from now until November. That's my goal.

It was a great series, and maybe the launching pad to a second-half run. But I'm still feeling a lot like I did following Jose's first start since coming back from AAA. Prove it.

You beat up on a down and out Indians team. Great. Go do it again against the Royals.

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Ali Bumaye!!

Flowers – who is apparently the motherfucking boogeyman of the southern league

by omnipotent grab on Jul 1, 2009 10:20 PM CDT reply actions  

caption for photo:

JI approves of thee, Castro

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Jul 1, 2009 10:30 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah, I've got bloggers block

but I ate some Activia so I should be good by the ASG

by The Cheat on Jul 1, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

there ya go lol

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Jul 1, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm calling it now

Sox will win dozens more games

¡signature!

by billyok on Jul 1, 2009 10:46 PM CDT reply actions  

4 dozen + 11

If ya know what I mean

¡signature!

by billyok on Jul 1, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Excellent.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2009 6:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its like Where's Waldo (Carl)

I say just keep throwing him in random paintings/photos.

Gold Jerry, Gold!

THANK YOU NATE SILVER, TECHNOLOGY IS THE TOPS

by Hazymania on Jul 2, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Zelig.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like the Tribe are the new Royals...

Danks -Greinke on 7/3 —intriguing match up

by RoyEgan on Jul 1, 2009 11:07 PM CDT reply actions  

So slightly off topic but not completely so bear with me here

For you game players, my review copy of The Bigs 2 arrived today. It’s fun, but I must warn you that in my early testing, Gordon Beckham does not exist, DeWayne Wise’s smoov mustache is missing, and BHB has been inexplicably granted “generic character” status. No Pods, either. Wilson Betemit is in there though, but sans goggles, and Little bridge is here as well. So you can reminisce about godawful times gone by

¡signature!

by billyok on Jul 1, 2009 11:26 PM CDT reply actions  

i'm playing mlb 2k8 as of right now...reliving days with swish, orca, and crede...

thinking about creating the savior though

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Jul 1, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

A write up without a mention of Beckham?

I think the thing that impresses me the most is that he doesn’t get cheap hits. Almost every hit he’s gotten have been on the screws and seems like he expects to hit now instead of hoping.

by Shakey on Jul 1, 2009 11:54 PM CDT reply actions  

its pretty awesome.

also, whats with the tag of Blackjack? i must’ve missed it while i was in chicago..

I just accidentally the Fleshlight.
Accidentally what?
THE WHOLE THING!!

by BoeJouma on Jul 1, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

it should be recognized be everyone that all of this good happenings

are due to my desktop background, not being of anything sox oriented.

I just accidentally the Fleshlight.
Accidentally what?
THE WHOLE THING!!

by BoeJouma on Jul 2, 2009 2:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Lets just hope the Sox don't break Ozzie's heart in Kansas CIty.

"No, because they’ve got to show me better," Guillen said. "Every time I feel that way, my heart’s been broken, big-time. … I think we’re [close] to getting there, but I don’t want to think about that yet, because I don’t want to have a broken heart."

by Ahillock on Jul 2, 2009 7:34 AM CDT reply actions  

i'm excited...

Bruce Chen is washed up…time to torch the Royals and keep rolling…

1st place by all star break.

by el paulito on Jul 2, 2009 7:55 AM CDT reply actions  

taking 2/3 from the cubs, dodgers and brewers

isn’t proving it enough?

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH

by Illini0509 on Jul 2, 2009 8:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Small sample size, and all NL midgets.

Though I keep reading that LAD is the best team in baseball!!!

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"

by Chiburb on Jul 2, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

so continue proving it against the royals

a non-midget team, got it :)

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH

by Illini0509 on Jul 2, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cubs, Dodgers, Brewers, Indians, Royals....

Yes, all midgets. But I don’t care, there are more midgets than teams with winning records, right? Beat up on them and the Sox make the playoffs despite what happens against the ALEast.

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"

by Chiburb on Jul 2, 2009 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Deja Vu all over again...

1983, through July 1: 38-36, 3.5 games back, 3rd place.
2009, through July1: 40-38, 3 games back, tied for 2nd place.

1983, Final: 99-63, 20 games up, 1st place.

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"

by Chiburb on Jul 2, 2009 8:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Did not know this:

Times Shutout by Opponent: 8

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"

by Chiburb on Jul 2, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

First 2 games Beckham played in

(6/4 vs Oak, 6/5 vs Clev) we were shut out (7-0, 6-0).

ZERO shutouts since.

Coincidence.

Time to show Walker and Dotel the door.

by ballyb on Jul 2, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

BP 3rd win order

Don’t look now sports fans.

Minn 42.7-37.3
WSox 39.7-38.3
Det 38.4-39.6

ELO playoff odds have the Sox at 83 wins and a 24% chance of making the playoffs 2 games off.

What would adding a Q to that pot do?
    
Def Eff is up to season high .693

Even the hardcore saber fans will have to acknowledge soon what the few enlightened already have!

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 2, 2009 9:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Am I reading that right? That the Sox are #1 in the ALC?

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"

by Chiburb on Jul 2, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

yep

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 2, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm feelin it

Expected win % for the Sox is now 55% – that means they’re expecting to win 46 of the final 84 games. For all you English majors sitting at home, that is 40 current wins to 46 expected wins = 86 final wins.

That sounds just about right to me

Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.

by ChicagoPete on Jul 2, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

When Q! Returns

Where should Ozzie put him at in the lineup? Do you automatically put him back at the three spot, or bump him down lower in the order to keep the pressure off of him? Personally, I’d start him off lower in the order.

(By the way, this is my first post. I’ve been reading the boards here for over a year and finally decided to create an account. Now you guys have to deal with this guy.)

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 2, 2009 9:35 AM CDT reply actions  

I am unworthy to be on this site, but I wouldn't mind seeing something like

Pods
Ramirez
Dye
Thome
Konerko
Beckham
Q!
AJ
Nix/Getz

But what do I know?

by Ahillock on Jul 2, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't lie...

As much as the combo of Pods and Alexei at the top of the order has worked, I miss seeing AJ hitting second from time to time. Especially when I look at his average.

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 2, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd go

Pods-8
Ramirez-6
Dye-9
Thome-DH
Konerko-3
Q!-7
AJ-2
Beckham-5
Nix/Getz-4

Formerly Crede's Crew

by Q!'s Qrew on Jul 2, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree.

This would seem to be the right order when Q returns. You can’t bat him below 6th. That’s in the Bible somewhere.

by palehose67 on Jul 2, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

If. If Q returns.

Until he’s healthy, why speculate as to batting orders?
Though I do give you credit for not crating a FanPost for your first offering.
Welcome.

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"

by Chiburb on Jul 2, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

It isn't so much speculation...

…it’s nostalgia more than anything. Oh how I miss him.

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 2, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

You might be new...

to posting here, S2LB, but that’s one impressive slideshow. Welcome.

by palehose67 on Jul 2, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why..

thank you sir.

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 2, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is more like Q represents

A blockbuster trade in this situation.

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 2, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

That would be the 2008 Q,

not the April/May Q, correct?

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

What about the Q that was beasting the Rays earlier this season?

I’d take that.

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 2, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Small sample size, S2LB, SSS.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

The April 2009 Q is fine.

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 2, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

This whole scenario reminds me of Martin Landau in "Entourage"

“If I told you Carlos Quentin and Gordon Beckham could be in the same lineup…is that something that would interest you?”

by 67WMAQ on Jul 2, 2009 10:06 AM CDT reply actions  

I miss Barbara Bain.

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"

by Chiburb on Jul 2, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I miss McBain.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

"MENDOZAAAA!!!!!"

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jul 2, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 2, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

jill?

one of the best…

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
White Sox news, Minor Leagues updates and more

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wiz, you impress me.

Obscure 1968 Claudia Cardinale. Are you sure you’re straight? ;)

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I cannot forget it WU

she was so damn sexy, maybe the most, in that role

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
White Sox news, Minor Leagues updates and more

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

According to MLBTradeRumors.com...

The Mets have signed Venezuelan lefty Juan Urbina. I don’t know about you guys, but I’m picturing a female version of Uribe. Maybe like…a Mrs. Pacman version of Uribe with a pink bow.

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 2, 2009 10:14 AM CDT reply actions  

haha.

member of a "solid community of fans" and "a meathead."

by thecip on Jul 2, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I caught a glimpse of Uribe last night on ESPN

He’s looking quite svelte, I had to do a double-take.

Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.

by ChicagoPete on Jul 2, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

same

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Jul 2, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

People who live on vegetarian diets have slightly weaker bones than their meat-eating counterparts, Australian researchers said Thursday.

A joint Australian-Vietnamese study of links between the bones and diet of more than 2,700 people found that vegetarians had bones five percent less dense than meat-eaters, said lead researcher Tuan Nguyen.

The issue was most pronounced in vegans, who excluded all animal products from their diet and whose bones were six percent weaker, Nguyen said.

There was “practically no difference” between the bones of meat-eaters and ovolactovegetarians, who excluded meat and seafood but ate eggs and dairy products, he said.

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"

by Chiburb on Jul 2, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wither Fielder... literally.

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"

by Chiburb on Jul 2, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

you are doomed

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Jul 2, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nah. I do dairy. Hey! Kind of like you!

;-)

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"

by Chiburb on Jul 2, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

in RF when quentin goes down for the season.

White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry

by larry on Jul 2, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Q's health for the remainder of the season...

Is still in question to some degree or another. Trading Dye would concede the division. I see Jenks as the most likely to be traded. We could get something for Jenks that would help us NOW.

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 2, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Couple of things...

1. What does “some degree or other” mean? He’s not healthy until or if he is.
2. Why trade Jenks NOW for “something”? What’s the “something” that could help us now?

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"

by Chiburb on Jul 2, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well...
  1. I remember reading that Q is considering getting the tendon cut in the offseason so that he wouldn’t have to deal with it again. He’s going to be in some degree of pain when and if he returns. He won’t be 100% if he comes back.
  1. I don’t WANT to trade Jenks. But if the Giants are the team willing to trade for Dye, they’ll be giving us lower level prospects if they take on his salary. So Dye helps the future, but not now. Bobby is likely going to demand a huge contract, and I get the feeling that KW doesn’t wanna pay him. Especially if you look at the deal K-Rod got. But a team in need of a closer now might be more willing to give us something to help us now. What that would be, I’m not exactly sure. Maybe a starter or maybe a center fielder. I hear the Rays need a closer.

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 2, 2009 10:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Scuse me..

I meant to put 2.

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 2, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Rays would be able to give some nice prospects.

However, they’d not likely want to pay his price (no pun intended) to keep him long-term, so I can’t see us getting enough for him as a potential rental.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

ah, yes.

the cash rich rays will be trading a CF or starter for a closer (certainly fits with their organizational philosophy) who will be paid a ridiculous amount in arbitration the next couple years. makes perfect sense.

White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry

by larry on Jul 2, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

I don’t know what Kenny is going to do. I just see Jenks as more likely to be traded while we are winning than Dye. And a starter or center fielder seems to be our needs. Do you disagree that trading Dye is conceding the division?

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 2, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

If the Sox are winning, why do you see Kenny trading Jenks?

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"

by Chiburb on Jul 2, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Q returning doesn't mean we are trading Dye.

That’s the point I was making. All I was saying is that I think Jenks is higher on the trade block than Dye. Because #1 he’s going to cost a lot to keep and #2 we could probably survive with Thornton as closer.

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 2, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

When is Q returning?

Why are you trading anyone until you know that? And if the team continues to win, just how big an upgrade are you looking for in CF or SP? 1-3 wins? It’ll take more than Jenks or Dye to get you that.
This whole speculation is stupid.

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"

by Chiburb on Jul 2, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did you miss this quote?

the return of Q will give KW an excuse to trade Dye "where would he play?"

by Hatchetm on Jul 2, 2009 10:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 2, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

That isn't a question though.

Pods plays CF, and Anderson and Wise sit. It’s not very difficult. This is a team that put KG jr out there last year in CF, they can live with Pods if he is hitting .300.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 2, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

as should be fairly obvious

the issue is not simply who would be the closer in that type of situation, since everyone in the bullpen would be moved up, as well. do we like jimmy gobble in higher leverage situations? what about linebrink playing an ever more prominent role?

White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry

by larry on Jul 2, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

he's just saying your trade doesn't make sense

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Jul 2, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

And a starter is needed? To replace Richard at #5?

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"

by Chiburb on Jul 2, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

always need pitching.

that’s why you trade pitching for pitching. so you get pitching. your lack of faith is disturbing.

White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry

by larry on Jul 2, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well shoot no. If we have a crystal ball and know that Contreras will continue to stay healthy...

…and perform the way he has been the rest of the season, then no we don’t need starting pitching. And if Aaron Poreda is ready to join the rotation, good deal. All I’m saying is that I’m really looking forward to the day when Jeff Marquez is the backup plan.

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 2, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

i'm kind of confused about what teams will be trading a ready now starting pitcher to get a closer.

or would be trading a ready now CF for a closer. seems like such moves would not result in a net gain for that team.

White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry

by larry on Jul 2, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

No confusion -

zero that I can think of.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I feel like this subject has been misinterpreted from the start...

My bad. All I was doing was responding to the statement made by Hatchetm that the return of Q would give us the excuse to trade Dye. I disagreed because we are still in a position where we can win. I see Jenks going before Dye. That’s all I was saying.

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 2, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

hee

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"

by Chiburb on Jul 2, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

For a moment...

I thought that was Mike MacDougal’s autobiography.

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 2, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

For a moment..

I thought that was Mike MacDougal’s autobiography.

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 2, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is clever.

And diverse.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well there you go. Didn't see any of us respond to a guy who

can’t even spell his own user name, did you?

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"

by Chiburb on Jul 2, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well...

I apologize. I’m a newby. STOP PICKING ON ME! :( weeps

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 2, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.

by ChicagoPete on Jul 2, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL. Rec'd.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jeff Marquez is never the back up plan.

Would take at least 4 injuries, maybe more. You would see Carassco, Poreda, Colon, Egbert, then a 4 man rotation, then some guys in AA, before you see Marquez. If we’re winning why would we trade Dye or Jenks? We can always trade Jenks next year if he’s as valuable as you think.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 2, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll keep that in mind

My only job is to provide nice gifs……. jerk ;)

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 2, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

not true

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Jul 2, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

A Chicago legend

I take that as a complement.

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 2, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

You funny.

Search. This. Site.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

how could we. it's not like anyone has ever seen him play or anything.

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by larry on Jul 2, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

but has he retained the services of jaime torres yet?

after that it’s just a matter of time until he joins viciedo in birmingham, right?

by Ryno on Jul 2, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

he won't be able to sign with anyone until the offseason anyway.

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by larry on Jul 2, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow.

Sox and Royals top two AL pitching clubs(tRA).

What the what?
I think Id take the over tonight regardless.

"It doesn't take long for a Rolls Royce to warm up." - Hawk Harrelson

by e-gus on Jul 2, 2009 12:25 PM CDT reply actions  

LArry:new meat(s2lb)

e-gus:Bruce Chen

"It doesn't take long for a Rolls Royce to warm up." - Hawk Harrelson

by e-gus on Jul 2, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

The other night...

I was watching the Sox game with my wife (Richard was pitching), and I turned to her and said, “Doesn’t Richard just look like a baseball player?” She appropriately replied, “What does that mean?” I’m concerned that I’m slowly turning into Hawk. Yet I think he really does look like a baseball player. And I don’t know what that means. I feel better now that I’ve shared.

by palehose67 on Jul 2, 2009 12:34 PM CDT reply actions  

he doesn't look tough enough to me

he looks like somebody just stole his lunch and he’s standing around saying “wha’ happend?”

he needs a little more steve sax redass in him.

or not.

by Hatchetm on Jul 2, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

if we're china, the royals are north korea.

royals ban rany jazayerli from the stadium for critical comments about the royals medical/training staff.

http://www.ranyontheroyals.com/2009/07/banned.html

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by larry on Jul 2, 2009 12:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice traditions.

David Glass = Kim Il Jong.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha!

Ill take your blog night ticket since you cant go now.

"It doesn't take long for a Rolls Royce to warm up." - Hawk Harrelson

by e-gus on Jul 2, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

id say 50% less real

"It doesn't take long for a Rolls Royce to warm up." - Hawk Harrelson

by e-gus on Jul 2, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

remark in reference tothe email exchange

he and scott superpoke each other all the time on facebook

Always bet on black!

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 2, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's hope the ONLY place

"To play for me you have to have some balls." - Ozzie Guillen (6/30/09)

by tailgater on Jul 2, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm curious

do you think it was wrong of me to think that, when the author began that with “The daily exploits of the White Sox occupy the most powerful mind on the planet,” he was referring to me?

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by larry on Jul 2, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cranium continuing to expand into danger zone...

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

you or Stephen Hawking

who else would it be?

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Jul 2, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe this has been covered.

“The daily exploits of the White Sox occupy the most powerful mind on the planet, which is why we think the South Side deserves a bump to first-class status.”
I don’t understand … larry has followed the Sox for years — what’s changed?

by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 1, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 2, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

no shit

i heard reifert was thinking of leaving his wife for larry.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Jul 2, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Soon your own sig will be quoting you.

Cranium expanding…

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

No No No

The Royals are great and on the verge of passing the White Sox every year. KW and Ozzie suck and are stupid. Didn’t you get this memo they put out every year?

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 2, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

This made me think of that fanshot about herm a while ago

And indeed, while KC isn’t the worst on these “days lost to DL” graphs, they are on the wrong side of average:

linky link

Is it still the fourth inning?

by vince_ on Jul 2, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of HSA, did I ever mention what a caring, thoughtful,

Loving child she is?
Yes, the postal carrier came today! Worth the wait indeed.

I never equated Father’s Day with a menstrual cycle until now, but as they say of both, “better late than never”.

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"

by Chiburb on Jul 2, 2009 1:59 PM CDT reply actions  

oy. :)

Just [expletive] Fuck It.

by homesickalien on Jul 2, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are we finally done now, Mr. Front-Runner?

You are teaching me what not to do with mine own kid. And I prefer not to hear about your menstrual cycle any more, Chi. ;)

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bloody, sandy, whatever.

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"

by Chiburb on Jul 2, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

No matter what you try, WU, I'm fairly certain that pretty lil girl is going to cause you a great deal of heartache and heart attacks, for that matter.

If you’re lucky, you’ll get some prideful moments scattered in there and somehow it will all seem worth it….or something….

Or you’ll just spend your life wishing you had a son.

:)

Just [expletive] Fuck It.

by homesickalien on Jul 2, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Very good. Excellent close.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

WU is the uncle you never had.

Yours were normal, not the kind locked up in the attic.

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"

by Chiburb on Jul 2, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I swear, we will pull our options business from you so fast, Chi...

;)

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have a nice long weekend OPOS!

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"

by Chiburb on Jul 2, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cubs just traded a minor leaguer named Al Alburquerque

That shits hilarious. He’d fit right in if the Isotopes ever move.

by Shakey on Jul 2, 2009 2:21 PM CDT reply actions  

farney's already gone on the dole

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jul 2, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

whoopsie

daniel cortes got arrested.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Jul 2, 2009 4:26 PM CDT reply actions  

If fences aren't for urinating on

then what are they for?

same for walls, bushes, cats and R. Kelly’s girlfriends

¡signature!

by billyok on Jul 2, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

we could have used him

to pee on the arsonist.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Jul 2, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

boy howdy, the royals fans are fuming.

i really recommend checking out royals review and this from posnanski.
they’re not like LL mad, but still, they’ve got plenty to be mad about.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Jul 2, 2009 6:01 PM CDT reply actions  

We are now makin a playoff push

I think this means Konerko isnt getting dealt to the Giants

No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded. - Yogi Berra

by trademan56 on Jul 3, 2009 8:40 AM CDT reply actions  

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