Lisa Stone Loves White Sox Minor League Update
by larry on Jul 11, 2009 11:29 AM CDT
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PrintThe White Sox have not had a great deal of success recently with their top draft picks. Josh Fields was drafted with the 18th pick in 2004. Lance Broadway was drafted with the 15th pick in 2005. Neither have had much success in the big leagues, with Fields now relegated to a bench role as Paul Konerko's fill-in and Broadway shipped out and not yet maintaining a major league roster spot for any sustained period. So which was a worse pick?
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great, now i have to log off to vote for the other guy
i'll delete your SSS existence in a second. there is nothing that allows SSS posters, at any one moment, to keep posting, but the mere pleasure of larry.
-larry
Assessment:
short. in english. uses a poll. winner.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
mollenhauer 1-4, BB
morel 1-4, 2B, BB
kuhn 1-5
infante 5 IP, 2 hits, 7 BB, 2 K, 2 WP, HBP
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dash manager uses the word 'grinded', or a variant, four times to describe this game
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hudson 7 IP, 7 hits, 0 BB, 5 K, HBP
danks 1-3, BB
cj 3-4, 2 HR
marrero 2-4
shelby 0-3
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let's go, kid!
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Jul 12, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
armstrong 2-3, HR, BB
link back on track: perfect 1 IP, 2 K
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=456899
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Whatever Cole Armstrong has been feeding on recently...
I want some. Guy’s on FIRE.
by The Big Hurt on Jul 11, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Flowers – who is apparently the motherfucking boogeyman of the southern league
by omnipotent grab on Jul 12, 2009 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions
flowers starting and batting seventh tomorrow for the U.S. team.
full starting lineups here:
http://minors.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/07/first_look_at_futures_game_sta.html
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Still aint no top 50.
Flowers – who is apparently the motherfucking boogeyman of the southern league
by omnipotent grab on Jul 12, 2009 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Josh Fields is worse because at least we got Ramon Castro for Lance.
Flowers – who is apparently the motherfucking boogeyman of the southern league
by omnipotent grab on Jul 12, 2009 1:03 AM CDT reply actions
Futures Game Preview from MLB.com
Dayan and Flowers today….
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090711&content_id=5827588&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
At least Fields looked like a major league player for 100 games in 2007
I can’t say the same for Broadway
by Scotty Ballgame on Jul 12, 2009 11:02 AM CDT reply actions
quentin 1-4, 2B. complete game in left.
egbert 2 IP, 0 hits, 1 BB, 1 K.
charlotte on break until thursday.
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At least we know now that his injury wasn't life threatening.
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."
— Leo Durocher
article about viciedo in spanish.
mentions he’s now down to 235 lbs.
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kuhn 3-5, 2B
morel 2-3, 2B, HR, SF
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mcewing only uses 'grind' twice this time
http://www2.journalnow.com/content/2009/jul/13/parade-of-hits/sports-professional-baseball-the-dash/
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Flowers to AAA?
From the interview: http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=5565195
futures game
flowers 1-2
viciedo 1-2, 2B
both had throwing errors.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=g_box&gid=2009_07_12_wftmin_uftmin_1
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i realize it was just a few innings,
but, for those of you who watched, what were your thoughts on flowers behind the plate?
obviously the throwing error was not good but i’m not sure how much i can chalk that up to a guy who is bad on defense versus a young guy who was trying to do too much (saw a few instance of that in the game). i was impressed, or at least satisfied, with his ability to move behind the plate. i can see why the organization at least thinks he could be a catcher.
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I think that the performance of pitching in Birmingham
Speaks well for his ability as a signal caller. Usually, the best pitching talent sticks in AA for a while and flowers has shown that he can handle talent. I watched the game as well and I felt like he called a pretty good game to start off. The reason they went down 2 runs so quickly was because of the throwing error. With a bat in his hand, he looks like a major leaguer.
Castro came in after flowers and gunning down a player at 3rd (who was actually safe), he showed who was the better defensive catcher.
Listening to an interview it sounds as if he is a guy that gets along with everybody, especially his pitchers. He also sounds very humbled (sorta like this other guy I know we call the savior). He should adjust to major league pitching pretty quickly.
My prediction: We will see him sometime in september next season. I dont want him splitting time with AJ because I would rather have him catch a full season in the minors and come up in the late months.
seems to me castro's silly passed ball cast doubt on who was the better defensive catcher
if you were using this game as your only measuring stick. castro didn’t impress me defensively yesterday, though i know better.
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I missed Castro's PB as I was sidetract for the latter part of the game
I guess we cant really assess a catcher’s ability to throw out runners in yesterday’s game considering the amount of pitchers that lacked a slide step or any ability to hold runners on.
My concern at the catching position is a catcher’s ability to call a game. AJ does a great job with our pitching staff in the majors and if he can pass some of that wisdom on to Flowers, I think we will be ok with him behind the plate.
my concern is that he catch the ball.
someone else can always call the game. someone else cannot defend for him.
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I didn't watch the game, I did see the error
which, if we’re looking for positives, made his arm look like somewhere in between average and plus for a normal catcher. That’s one thing where sample size isn’t necessary.
That said, my take on the whole situation is that they’re going to give Flowers every opportunity to stay a C until they feel they don’t have to. I feel like Phegley is a solid insurance plan, the problem being that they are both offensive catchers up to this point.
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 13, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I came away much more impressed
than I was in the few instances I saw him in spring training. The throw, while not good, also probably would have been caught and no error charged by a decent 1B. Carter is pretty much a butcher out there . . .
Anyway, I saw the soft hands that the Sox had talked about, improved skills at blocking . . . and generally, it seems very feasible that he can stay there. Especially considering the lack of defensive ability that we have seen behind the plate in recent years. Encouraging few innings.
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
they're just piling on now.
Dan (Chicago): So many of my fellow white sox fans are so high on Dayan Viciedo (I assume because of the success of Alexei Ramirez) but I can’t help but think that this guy is a borderline non-prospect. .302 obp and .357 slugging is miserable
Ben Badler: I think I said it before, but Double-A was an aggressive assignment for the guy. Let him play in the Carolina League, and if it ends up looking like too conservative of an assignment after a month or so, bring him up to Double-A. But right now I’m not sure he could even hit Carolina League pitching based on his Double-A performance.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/chat/?1247498308
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I can't help but think
this is very short sighted and continues to be biased by the ridiculous talk of him breaking camp with the Sox in spring training. Progress has been made this year and he would still be very young for AA next year. He had an abysmal start which I guess I am willing to discount somewhat for numerous reasons . . . followed by 200+ much improved ABs over June and July.
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
i have zero concerns with his progress.
look up any number of prospects and mlb players and look at what they were doing at age 20, overwhelmingly at lower levels. he still has the same tools and potential as he did six months ago. that’s what you look at for just about any player his age.
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and piling on this bandwago, too.
Dan (Chicago): Tyler Flowers, future all star? .305/.449/.556 in that big park in Hoover is awfully good.
Ben Badler: I say yes, he has that potential.
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larry (chicago): Will Tyler Flowers stick at catcher?
Ben Badler: I think the odds of him sticking at catcher are better than they were coming into the season. He won’t be an above-average defensive catcher, but I think he’s good enough to play back there at least early in his career. Then again, my threshold for catcher defense is probably a little lower than most people’s.
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I still await the sabermetricy articles extolling the Sox realization that defense is overrated at C
If only Billy had done it instead…
by hitlesswonder on Jul 13, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Who the fuck thinks he can speak for our larry?
Goddamn it, I am going to get to the bottom of this Bed Badler bullshit interview shit. Soon he will be claiming Cheat as a questioner.
I’m sorry, larry, but you’ve been TOO nice for TOO long. This DB who is attributed to your line of questioning is just too OVER-THE-TOP with the idiotic, sophomoric questions. May as well ask, “So, what do you think of the Sox’ farms system? Pretty good, huh?”
Fer Chrissakes. Someone has to stand up for you. And that DB is me.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
nice fucking pole larry
u sure du have a cents of hummer
i don't really consider a raspberry from sliding into home an injury
by U-God on May 31, 2009 4:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 13, 2009 7:39 PM CDT reply actions
i didn't think this one would be such a blow-out
after all, fields has been a below replacement level player for his career and isn’t looking like he’s planning to turn that around. broadway at least is a replacement level pitcher. interesting to see the aggregate analysis of the picks.
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you can pick up a replacement pitcher off the damn sidewalk
Fields at least hits dingers sometimes, and has a chance of becoming a starter on a bad team. Or a platoon player on a decent one. 40 HR power doesn’t grow on trees, and someone will give him a chance to find it. It isn’t like he can’t hit a 94 MPH heater, he just needs to find the best timing. Ozzie and KW just can’t afford to let young players work it out. He doesn’t seem to react to pressure well anyway. Fields vs. Anderson would have been a better one.
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 14, 2009 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions
and you can also pick up a guy who can hit homers sometimes and can't play defense off the damn sidewalk, too.
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Fields had a good half of a season.
While that doesn’t justify the poll here, I think most people just remember that Josh Field at one time played like a solid major leaguer for a few months when he originally came up. Broadway while he’s been successful in his few spot starts, has never had as much success as Fields over that long a time period. Niether one has been good so I don’t know if it really matters, but Fields did look promising at one time.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 14, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know if Broadway will ever do anything in the majors
I think Fields can be more than he is now, anyway. I can’t say that for Broadway. Whatever, there’s not much in arguing over who’s worse.
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 14, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
i simply find the result interesting.
from the comments i read on this site and others, many do not distinguish between what was a ‘bad’ pick at the time of the draft and the eventual career, or lack thereof, of that player. fields was a better pick. higher upside. potential for a good player but also potential for a bust. broadway had little upside. like any pitcher, he could have blown out his arm but he’s pretty much turned out as one would expect – backend pitcher. fields has been a negative value player and, frankly, whether he “can be more than he is now”, it’s unlikey he’ll ever be much more than replacement level since he can’t play defense and his bat, even optimistically, isn’t going to carry him. so the two players have essentially ended up at the same point. i should apparently give some credit to the community for realizing that the result isn’t everything.
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"I should apparently give credit to the community."
(larry falls off chair, clutching balls, as if kicked in them by 200 posters.)
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
Sure, Fields was a better pick
I though Broadway was pretty decent at the time, though. It’s like his stuff went down the toilet.
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 14, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Fields was an 'athlete' at least.
Broadway was a mediocre pitcher who had a good tournament.
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
broadway is replacement level?
i bet he’s not, even if his mle’s say otherwise. and he has no upside whatsoever.
THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY
he has performed exactly like a replacement level pitcher.
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barons suck at all-star game
cj 0-4
danks 0-1
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=g_box&gid=2009_07_13_sonaax_sosaax_1
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quentin 1-2, 2B
greene 1-3, 2B, SB
gilmore 0-3, HBP
phegley 1-4
remenowsky perfect IP, 2 K
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How's his mobility?
And are the 2B’s “leg” doubles or the gapper/down-the-line type? That is what I believe most would be interested in.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
jason grey on t-flow
from espn insider:
Arguably the most impressive hitter at last year’s Arizona Fall League in a league with quite a few of them, White Sox catcher Tyler Flowers was another player at the Futures Game with big-time power potential. He continues to swing a hot bat at Double-A after the South Siders acquired him in the offseason trade that sent Javier Vazquez to Atlanta.
Flowers is hitting .302 with a .445 on-base percentage and 13 homers this season as his OPS flirts with the 1.000 mark. A big 6-foot-4, 245-pound specimen, Flowers is not a free swinger, and he shows good patience in waiting for pitches he can drive thanks to a good pitch recognition. He still occasionally struggles with off-speed stuff away, as his front hip has a tendency to leak out in his swing.
“It’s a timing issue,” Flowers said. “I do need to make sure I always see the ball before I got and commit to a swing, because I do get in the habit of cheating a bit, especially against pitchers that throw harder.”
When I first started watching him, I thought he was a bit stiff and his swing was a bit too long, but then he really started putting good, consistent swings on the ball. He can put up a good batting average to go with his pop.
Always known as an offense-first catcher who has seen time at first base, Flowers continues to make small strides in improving his defense behind the dish, but he still has work to do. He has soft hands and has earned praise from pitchers for his game-calling abilities, but he struggles with his footwork and his throwing needs to be more consistent. It’s possible he could stay there over the long haul, and the White Sox think he can. That obviously would be the more desired outcome for his fantasy owners, who always are looking for power-hitting catchers. Regardless, his bat will play if he has to move to first.
When they say struggles with his footwork
Are they talking more about getting out of the crouch to make a throw to get a guy out stealing, or being able to move his feet left and right to get in front of wild pitches, or just all around?
by Grinder in Training on Jul 14, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd worry about a leaky hip.
Chiburb knows what it’s like to be “leaky” down there.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
good joke
whats 70 year old pussy taste like?
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
depends
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
what does it depend on?
BBBBWWWWWAAAAAAAHHHHHHAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT
Jared Mitchell
Sources tell NewOrleans.Com/Sports that Mitchell is not injured, that the White Sox simply gave him the time to re-charge his batteries, rest a bit from the non-stop grind of LSU football and baseball, and to get his feet on the ground before debuting. He has been taking batting practice with the team. He is eligible to come off of the disabled list Thursday and should debut for the Intimidators then.
Quentin last night in SAL league for Intimidators vs Sand Gnats
Rehabbing Chicago White Sox outfielder Carlos Quentin put Kannapolis on the board first in the opening inning with an RBI-double down the third base line. Quentin ended the day with a fly-ball out to left making just two at-bats on the evening before exiting for a pinch-hitter in the sixth.
The Sand Gnats (9-9, 44-44) will face 2005 Cy Young Award winner Bartolo Colon who will join Quentin tomorrow for a rehab start with Kannapolis. Savannah counters with Kyle Allen (5-5, 4.54 ERA) toeing the slab for the 7 p.m. start.
I’ll probably listen to the game tonight and have some friends going to give me a first hand account of Q! tonight.
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
flowers officially to AAA
donny lucy demoted to birmingham.
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info
White Sox prospect Tyler Flowers was promoted to Triple-A Charlotte.
Acquired from the Braves in the Javier Vazquez trade last December, Flowers batted .302/.445/.548 with 13 homers and 43 RBI in 248 at-bats with Double-A Charlotte. The 23-year-old Flowers is quickly gaining steam as one of the top prospects in the White Sox organization. Questions about his defense remain, but he was one of two catchers chosen to represent the U.S. Team in Sunday’s Futures Game. He went 1-for-2 with a strikeout in the game.
Source: Chicago Tribune
Formerly Crede's Crew
As Castro's only signed through 09
what are the chances Flowers is on the opening day roster next year?
Intimidators @ Sand Gnats
talk about bush league.
as the radio guy was doing his promo stuff the PA announcer starts doing the starting line ups right next to him. lol. they’re still talking over each other.
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
new picnic area at Grayson stadium
that sounds nice.
Q! coming up.
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
smattering of applause
foul ball strike
ball
ball two
2 outs
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
3-1 fastball inside
called strike, Q! dropped bat on way to 1st
oops
crack of the bat
foul
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
ball four
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
leadoff walk for Colon
now facing a kid half his age
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
couple pick off attempts
double down the line but lead runner pegged by relay at home
(controversial call- foul ball)
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
hit hard to right
F9 runner advances
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
Hmm, why doesn't larry do this thread like this?
by ThisIsJustBanter on Jul 14, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
because he looks at recaps im guessing
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
because i imagine the few people who regularly care about minor league games listen to the games themselves.
i’ve tried minor league gamethreads a couple times. hasn’t seemed to take.
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backwards K
inside fastball
outside fastball
inside fastball
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
1,2,3 for Kyle Allen
Colon back to the bump
Q! was stranded in first at second BTW.
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
0-0 going to the top of 3rd
backwards K
followed by a pop out
2 outs
line drive basehit to left
third strikeout for Bartolo- all looking
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
Q! 4th up in third
switched to Kannapolis broadcast- 100x better than Savannah’s.
6-3, 1 out
2nd guy got out somehow
HBP, man on first for Q!
grounds into inning ending FC.
Quentin 0-1 with a BB.
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
31 pitches though 2 for Bartolo
87 mph heat from Bartolo.
another called third strike. 1 dead.
5 strikeouts, all looking. 2 out.
Im starting to get suspicious of this strikezone.
although it is low-A.
groundout. hes through 3 IP.
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
4th inning
back to back base hits drop in front of Q!
1-5 fc. 1 out, men on first and second.
didnt try for dp.
line drive, double the runner off second.
4 ip 5 Ks, 3 hits, 0 walks so far for Colon
Quentin 0-1 with a BB.
dinner/all-star time.
youve been a lovely audience.
thank you!
good night!
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
he really is.
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
Yes Omogrosso belongs in the top 10 for sure
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
Torres #14
How can you put Torres behind 6 pitchers in the Sox System? The guy just continues to dominate everyone he faces this year…..
Does anybody have any video of Torres' All-Star Game appearance?
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
colon 7 IP, 7 hits, 1 BB, 8 K
quentin 0-1, 2 BB
greene 0-4
gilmore 1-4
phegley 1-3, 2B, HBP, PO
bellamy’s kanny debut: 1 IP, 0 hits, 0 BB, 1 K
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Bartolo Colon tonight - 88-92 FB, 85-87 Cut FB, 80 CH, 84 SL?
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do you think the sox will give him another shot in the rotation if we dont trade for a legit SP?
i don't really consider a raspberry from sliding into home an injury
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by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 16, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
A White Sox infield in two years of 1B Konerko, 2B Savior, SS Missile, 3B Morel?
Sounds like Morel is a polished defender and he hits for power. I know its only at the high A level, but might he be able to produce for the Sox in the future? He is a 3rd rounder so its not like he came out of nowhere. At the beginning of this season, I thought Josh Fields could at least hold his own at 3B for at least a few more seasons, boy was I wrong.
Some thoughts on Morel
I like the kid alot, I think his glove is going to continue to be a huge asset and I hope while he climbs through the system he doesn’t loose his ability to steal that would be a great asset for him and make him a very dynamic player at 3B.
I realize John Sickels wrote previously about Morel possibly being a Joe Randa type; and I think that comp holds a lot of water I also think this is good jumping off point in terms of comps: a meh, good, better and best situation for Morel is something like this in my eyes: Joe Crede , Joe Randa, Edgardo Alfonozo and Jeff Cirillo.
Yeah, I remember that Sickels comparison to Randa
Nix has started 3 games at 3B this season. Maybe Getz could be shopped and we could move Beckham over to 2B. Let’s get him some experience there at the major league level. I really like Getz, but he is preventing Beckham from playing a position he might be better at.
Getz isn't preventing anyone from anything
there’s no reason to shop him even if he can’t start. Players with his profile should be able to make good utility men. That may be his upside.
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 15, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Getz is going to be a solid 2nd baseman for a long time
The kid has really given us all that can be expected for his first major league experience. He’s a solid glove, great at turning the double play and our best base stealer/base runner. Give him his 700 at bats and I believe he will hit .300 and be moved to the 2 hole where he belongs.
Nix is the perfect utility man since he can play just about anywhere and gives us some pop as a late inning pinch hitter or a late inning pinch runner is we need some speed.
I would much rather see Beckham at ss and move Ramirez to CF or 3rd base.
Sox win, cubs lose.....what a wonderful world!
Yeah, but he's not produced like a MLer so far.
It isn’t like he’s going to ever be a superstar, so there isn’t much lost by using him in a utility role. If Getz can step it up, good for him. But you shouldn’t expect the Sox to balk in getting or calling up someone they think is better.
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 17, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
he's back up to replacement level.
so there’s that.
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getz isn't even the sox best 2nd baseman. prolly not 2nd or 3rd, either.
Cashing checks and having sex.
Given this discussion
is future based, I would say that he is in that discussion without question. You can make that argument today, but since this started around when Morel will potentially be ready, we are talking a couple years down the road here.
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
AAA all-star game is tomorrow night, 9pm on ESPN2
carlos torres will be there. and, somehow, cole armstrong. i’m assuming a bunch of catchers died.
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ridiculous
scott (chicago): Can we consider Jordan Danks’ showing at AA as a “struggle?” Do you think he can stick in center long-term for the White Sox? His overall improvements from draft to now have to be a good thing…
Kevin Goldstein: How is .293/.374/.433 at Double-A in your first full season IN in pitcher’s park a struggle? Is somebody saying that? The expectations for these guys has totally gotten out of control. That’s a friggin’ great line, and he’s fine in center.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/chat/chat.php?chatId=629
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goes right along with Viciedo being a bust already
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
is that reifert fishing for compliments?
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
Were you long or short today?
Fucking markets. Make no sense. (Yeah, I was mostly not long.)
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
got long late. wasn't great. if we could have finished on highs i would've done well, but of course that didn't happen.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Jul 16, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know how you make a living at it.
I’d be broke in a week.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 16, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
there are good days and there are bad. gotta do something, right? nice outlet for my competitive instincts.
Cashing checks and having sex.
griffith 6 IP, 3 hits, 1 BB, 4 K, HBP.
ballinger finally decides to not suck: perfect IP, 1 K.
greene 0-3, HBP
gilmore 1-4
black 1-4
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any news on whether Griffin's stuff is sharp?
I want to salvage my 2008 White Sox Top Prospects list sans Poreda…
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 15, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
i expect a report on griffith from
http://www.scoutingthesally.com/
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You'd be right to expect
He told me there’s one coming along with Gilmore and Phegley.
by The Big Hurt on Jul 15, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
so you're the pooch he screwed?
http://twitter.com/ScoutingtheSAL/statuses/2657897940
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the fucker
i bet he didn’t even screw any pooch, either.
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 15, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
About Time?
FS is hearing that Dex Carter has been promoted to Winston Salem. We are working on confirming. Very well deserved promotion if true!
Perhaps Not
Still unable to confirm Dex promotion. The promotion is inconsistent with what I had been hearing.
danks 1-3, HR, BB
viciedo 0-3, HBP
cj 2-4
marrero 0-3
shelby 0-3
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upchurch 7 IP, 5 hits, 0 BB, 8 K
shoemaker 2-4, 2B
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Thats what Ive been expecting from him
Glad he had a good game.
Flowers – who is apparently the motherfucking boogeyman of the southern league
by omnipotent grab on Jul 16, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions
AAA all-star game
carlos torres 1 IP, 1 hit, 0 BB, 2 K. the cutter looked good and the hitters didn’t seem prepared for the curve. nice velocity difference between the two pitches.
i’m sure armstrong will play.
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His curve definitely looked sharper than when I saw him
Probably because he didn’t have a 35 m.p.h. wind with rain in his face.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jul 16, 2009 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions
he played four years at A&M and is now at Great Falls?
Thats pretty old for the league.
Id temper the enthusiasm.
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
that's not enthusiasm
that’s where you put four year college seniors who handle rookie ball like a four year college senior.
THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY
interview with hudson
http://futuresox.com/frontpage/?p=876
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I hope this kid makes it.
I never really started following the Sox until I got drafted by them but I can tell you I already love watching the Cubs lose.
Love that.
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
It's funny...
but kid should probably watch it… the Sox and Cubs have made a few swaps in the past if memory serves correctly.
Yeah not the wisest thing to say.
Flowers – who is apparently the motherfucking boogeyman of the southern league
by omnipotent grab on Jul 16, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Sammy Sosa wasn't a big deal
but Cotts for Aardsma + can’t remember was a winner for the Sox
by Hawk is God on Jul 16, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
so was karchner for garland
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
So was Lee Elia being purchased from the Sox in '67.
Just think if he melted down on the South Side? Kilt.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
i see now. flowers isn't a top 50 prospect.
he’s a top 51 prospect.
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Becks 9 (heh).
Danks 88. Dayan MIA.
Nice to see our C&C trades appearing, too (Carter/Cunningham).
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
Don't forget Poreda @ 36
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
carter 8 IP, 3 hits, 2 BB, 9 K, HBP.
greene 3-4, 2B
gilmore 2-4, but picked off both times
black 1-4
phegley 0-4
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and nary a change
i think some rookie ball should get him to work on it
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 16, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
greene picked off twice
once at second, once at third by the catcher.
by dr. lingerie on Jul 17, 2009 7:01 AM CDT up reply actions
This has to be Carter's
last Kanny start . . . right?
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
jared mitchell activated
http://kannapolis.intimidators.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&cid=487&stn=true&sid=t487
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game 2
quentin 1-3
flowers 0-3
egbert lit up: 1.2 IP, 8 hits, 1 BB, 1 K, HBP.
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That lillibridge guy is on fire
is he any good??? Maybe we should bring him up to play CF!
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
mitchell 2-4, 2B
greene 0-2, BB, 2 HBP, 2 SB
gilmore 2-4, SF
phegley 1-4, HR
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Mitchell in CF.
Nice.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 17, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
An impressive debut
He worked some full counts, showed some great range in CF and hit a couple of line drives.
by The Big Hurt on Jul 17, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Have I mention this guy's potential excites the bejesus out of me?
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 18, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Dayan Viciedo first half review.
http://futuresox.com/frontpage/?p=886
Flowers – who is apparently the motherfucking boogeyman of the southern league
by omnipotent grab on Jul 18, 2009 12:30 AM CDT reply actions
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