This Week In White Sox Minor League Baseball
by larry on Jul 18, 2009 5:00 AM CDT
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This week:
- The White Sox finally answered my question regarding how long they can keep a player with a line of .302/.445/.548 in AA when they promoted Tyler Flowers to Charlotte. From watching him in the Futures Game, I was satisfied with his abilities behind the plate. He appears to have shown some improvement and I can see why the club thinks he can play the position at the major league level, at least initially.
- However, that still leaves unanswered my question of how long you can keep in A ball the guy leading all of the minor leagues in strikeouts. Dexter Carter had another impressive outing - 8 IP, 3 hits, 2 BB, 9 K, HBP. While he still needs to work on repeating his mechanics, particularly with his curve, it's blatantly obvious that A ball hitters are not - and have not - provided him a sufficient challenge.
- Jared Mitchell made his professional debut Friday for the Intimidators and promptly lashed the first pitch he saw for a single. He finished the night 2-4 with a double.
- Tyler Kuhn: .413/.429/.513 in 22 games for the Dash.
- Carlos Quentin and Bartolo Colon continued their minor league rehab assignments. Quentin has gone .353/.463/.441 between Charlotte and Kannapolis. Colon also visited the low minors on Tuesday, due to the higher level affiliates being on their respective All-Star breaks, and toyed with A ball hitters: 7 IP, 7 hits, 1 BB, 8 K. His velocity has been good and he has supposedly been mixing in with more frequency pitches other than his fastballs.
- Interview with Dan Hudson.
- Carlos Torres pitched an inning in the AAA "All-Star" Game. His stuff was solid - nice movement on his cutter and also had good bite to his curve - and he struck out two. The major league ability is there but probably out of the bullpen.
- Cole Armstrong celebrated his defeat of Donny Lucy for the position of guy who plays catcher when Flowers doesn't by being the other "All-Star" from the Knights. Lucy celebrated his demotion to the Barons by boiling our remaining inventory of Fusilli Donnys.
- C.J. Retherford was named Southern League Hitter of the Week for the second time this year. On the season: .290/.332/.471.
- Brent Morel is profiled.
- The "struggling" Jordan Danks: .281/.373/.431.
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Great stuff as always larry - thanks.
Question to you about our young ML pitching. If you could rank a top 5 SP in our farm system for potential rotation guys for the big club in the next 2-5 years or so, who would you include?
I see a lot of position players and possible bullpen help but not a lot of starting pitching.
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by BobbySouthSide on Jul 18, 2009 5:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hudson and carter would be legit inclusions. after that it gets dicey, either due to lack of ability or lack of experience. i’d probably include torres, steven upchurch and john ely. maybe charlie shirek or gregory infante.
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by larry on Jul 18, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about Jacob Rasner?
He’s putting up some nice numbers in AA as a starter
Sox win, cubs lose.....what a wonderful world!
by picktoclick on Jul 18, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Check that.....Rasner is in WS advanced A -- still good numbers though?
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by picktoclick on Jul 18, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's cut the BBs
but he is repeating the level. at least he’s showing improvement.
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by larry on Jul 18, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think he's a reliever
but, since five is tough to come up with, throw him in if you like.
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by larry on Jul 18, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re Carter: is 22 considered old for A ball?
Or doesn’t that apply to pitchers, or pitchers/players who’ve gone to college?
As always, thanks for the recap.
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— Leo Durocher
by Chiburb on Jul 18, 2009 6:11 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
yes. he's both too old by age and too advanced due to his college background.
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by larry on Jul 18, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought i read Shirek would end up being more of a pen guy
Do you know what kind of pitches he throws? Also if Brent morel and Tyler Kuhn had a baseball lovechild it would lead all of a ball in being awesome….by a lot
by The Anti-Larry on Jul 18, 2009 9:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
sinker, slider, change
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by larry on Jul 18, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering Flowers bat
Should the Sox give him some time at 1b also? Yes we want him to catch but I don’t think there is anyway he stays in AAA all next season and AJ will still be here.
Is that a reach?
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by Tdogg on Jul 18, 2009 9:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Toby. Hall.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jul 18, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's played first before for extended periods.
i’m not sure i think it’s worth much of his time to play there.
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by larry on Jul 18, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I played 90% of my baseball career as a right fielder.
And had to switch over to 1b when i had the exact same injury CQ is facing right now. First Base is an easy position to learn. It just takes time, like all positions, to master. I am sure that a spring training at 1b is more than enough to stick him over there everyday when he’s ready.
by No Pressure on Jul 18, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but will that mean that Konerko Won't start?
because Konerko is solid
I Have Spoken.
by The_Fan on Jul 18, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade Bait?
What are the chances that the reason we’re keeping these prospects, ie dexter carter, in order to increase their trade value, especially if they get off to a slow start after a promotion? How much is it going to hurt their careers if they stay down an extra month? Thats my only guess
by stanleygoober on Jul 18, 2009 11:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
“keeping these prospects down”
by stanleygoober on Jul 18, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think that idea holds much
water . . . it is not as though other teams don’t understand that Carter is old for low A ball and the high risk associated with pitching at those levels. If he was moved up to High A and continued to pitch well, his value would increase significantly.
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
by jc2313 on Jul 18, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a player's trade value does not discernibly change in such a short time frame
especially when it’s a player in A ball. you’re scouting tools, not performance.
and when you’re not being challenged, that’s when bad habits form.
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by larry on Jul 18, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lineup
http://twitter.com/InsideTheSox
Sox vs Bal: pods7, missile6, jd9, thome dh, pk3, aj2, getz4, beckham5, wise8. Buehrle pitching.
by PaulieK14 on Jul 18, 2009 11:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Apparently Wise proved his value last night - hence he's back in the lineup
His fielding was bad – was all over the place with bad angles to the ball – looked even worse at the dish.
Remember when "Cuban Pride" meant something...
by Brush Back on Jul 18, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
open auditons for
who do we dump when quentin returns?
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by larry on Jul 18, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anderson.
He has options….and when Quentin gets hurt again in a week because he is a sally, then we can just bring him back up. Personally I think wise has better ABs anyway
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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 18, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You really think it matters if Wise has options?
You think another team would pick him up?
by Grinder in Training on Jul 18, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if they do...
Should we care? Wise is horrible.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jul 18, 2009 11:58 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I am just sick of BA
his stupid tattoo, his meaningless at bats, his supposedly good outfield play (which i don’t think it is all that great), his aloof attitude…. I don’t like him and i am through with him.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 18, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus he doesn't walk to the plate the right way.
There’s nothing special about Wise. If the Sox really want an outfielder who can’t hit and is bad at defense, they can call up John Shelby.
Personally, I’m not holding my breath for a Quentin return any time soon, anyway.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jul 18, 2009 12:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
true.
by no means am i saying wise is any good. he is bad too… i just have more confidence in him than anderson. (which isn’t saying a lot)
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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 18, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Familiarity breeds contempt.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jul 18, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's no real point in arguing between these 2 jokers. they both suck. neither should be in mlb, let alone starting for winning team.
anderson will stay because he’s a righty bat and his defense is better than wise’s. whatever. let’s just pray that q! is healthy and we don’t have to see much of either of those guys moving forward.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Jul 18, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKG07305CBs
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jul 18, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny thing is the same thing can be said of D.Wise.
Meaningless at bats, crappy outfield play. Just face it, we have 2 sucky CF’s on the team. Might as well give Nix some time out there. I done with both BA and Wise. They both suck.
by Ahillock on Jul 18, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
This whole debate is sort of silly. There aren’t any good options for center, and there won’t be until Danks is ready. It doesn’t matter who’s out there in the meantime.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jul 18, 2009 12:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Might as well flip a coin
Or, just have a fan come down from the stands to play in CF every game.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 18, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or, just have a fan come down from the stands to play in CF every game.
that’s a brilliant plan!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
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by The Wizard on Jul 18, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait.....so why is Wise a better option than Anderson?
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 18, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's lefty and can be used to pinch run
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 18, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
being lefty has really been an asset for him:
vs. rhp .169/.216/.253/.469
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Jul 18, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He still sucks, and the debate is pretty meaningless
It’s like arguing which is a more painful way to die, blunt force trauma or strangulation. I’d rather see you in CF and batting 9th.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 18, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by larry on Jul 18, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh my\
i don't really consider a raspberry from sliding into home an injury
by U-God on May 31, 2009 4:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 18, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're ice cold, larry.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Jul 18, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
God I've missed that.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 18, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well that is obvious.
ive won numerous little league championships…
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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 18, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's lefty.
thus has a slightly greater chance of beating out infield singles. plus, he’s black. sox need some more street cred. with beckham and dotel, the sox already have plenty of cred with the ladies.
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by larry on Jul 18, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you gotta think beckham is taking some of andersons ladies.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 18, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Completely agreed.
He’s awful, him having options doesn’t matter.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 18, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wise has to go
They both suck with the bat but at least BA plays a solid cf. Wise would be a little better in cf if our damn coaches would tell him to move back about 5 steps……
Sox win, cubs lose.....what a wonderful world!
by picktoclick on Jul 18, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On 2nd thought send them both packing and bring up Hopper
Sox win, cubs lose.....what a wonderful world!
by picktoclick on Jul 18, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, why not?
There are a ton of bad center fielders out there. The Sox could spent the next year throwing guys against the wall if they want to.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jul 18, 2009 12:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I'm beating a dead horse, but I'd still like to see Alexi out there.....
Sox win, cubs lose.....what a wonderful world!
by picktoclick on Jul 18, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or they could let wise continue to throw himself against the wall.
problem solved
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Jul 18, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lawrence you are a jagbag....but you do provide good insight to the minor leagues.
heres hoping we trade all these guys for some good old guys :)
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 18, 2009 11:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
speaking of which
I think we should pick up JDs option and sign Thome again. The Old Guys Can Play.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 18, 2009 11:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The foregone conclusion that Dye's option would not
be picked up is coming more into question as every day passes.
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
by jc2313 on Jul 19, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s still too much money.
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by larry on Jul 19, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it is too much
money as well, but not as grossly as I would have thought 4 months ago. If you consider him replacing Thome as the DH, his value actually goes up . . . he might well be worth $11-12$M if he isn’t in RF on a daily basis.
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
by jc2313 on Jul 19, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is a mutual option
So we need Dye to say yes to the option along with the white sox.
by airnjp on Jul 19, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great Stuff
How much longer is Quentin going to be in rehab?
I Have Spoken.
by The_Fan on Jul 18, 2009 11:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard another week
because he is still sore… boo hooo… get him a kleenax.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 18, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that guy sucks why would we ever mourn his lost?
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
by Tdogg on Jul 18, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's injury prone. you should expect his loss
id deal him in the offseason if he produces anything in the 2nd half.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 18, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You serious? Or just in a bad mood?
by Ahillock on Jul 18, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm serious.
tommy john surgery, torn labrum, planter facisissitists or whatever it is now, broken wrist, its an ongoing thing….
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 18, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB wasn't happy with Obama wearing the Sox jacket
Screw ’em
Axelrod said he had a long talk with Obama before the game because some Major League Baseball executives weren’t happy about the decision.
“There was a big controversy,” he said. "I think Major League Baseball wanted him to wear the All-Star jacket, and he was intent on wearing his White Sox jacket. He prevailed in that.
Is it still the fourth inning?
by vince_ on Jul 18, 2009 1:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
sox pride at its finest
i don’t agree with much he does…but he will always have a vote from me!
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 18, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck MLB. He's the goddamn president, not a marketing tool.
Ed Farmer: "Is it raining in here?"
Steve Stone: "I've made an egregious mistake."
by RWShow on Jul 18, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
nailed it
i don't really consider a raspberry from sliding into home an injury
by U-God on May 31, 2009 4:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 18, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
larry, these updates...
are always appreciated. Thanks for doing them.
by palehose67 on Jul 18, 2009 1:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks to all who have made similar comments.
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by larry on Jul 18, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, who hacked larry's account?
Is it still the fourth inning?
by vince_ on Jul 18, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good cop/bad cop routine
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 18, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's playing both?
Ed Farmer: "Is it raining in here?"
Steve Stone: "I've made an egregious mistake."
by RWShow on Jul 18, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty solid night to watch AA baseball in the state of ALABAMA.
Diamondbacks first rounder Jarrod Parker against Daniel Hudson…..it’s early….but Birmingham up 3-0.
by stanchar on Jul 18, 2009 7:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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