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cool.

hope hes not too gimpy.

I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT

by e-gus on Jul 20, 2009 2:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Put a poll.

Bet it comes close to 50/50.

by Ahillock on Jul 20, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

You think half of all SSSers are retarded?

Ed Farmer: "Is it raining in here?"
Steve Stone: "I've made an egregious mistake."

by RWShow on Jul 20, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

kenwo is blind.

and stoned out of his mind

I just accidentally the Fleshlight.
Accidentally what?
THE WHOLE THING!!

by BoeJouma on Jul 20, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

But 100% would agree

They both hella suck!

"Lemonade was a popular drink back in the day and it still is.."

Gangstarr

by Big Daddy Kool on Jul 20, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

How big of a standing O is he gonna get tonight?

1- Loud

2- Boisterous

3- Crazy

4- Unprecedented. As if Luke Appling, Joe Jackson, five of the greatest rock guitarists of all time, and a 25 year old Frank Thomas walked out of the left field wall and said “Fuck this bullshit…we want to play ball!”

by 67WMAQ on Jul 20, 2009 2:25 PM CDT reply actions  

member of a "solid community of fans" and "a meathead."

by thecip on Jul 20, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

cip, you going tonight?

I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT

by e-gus on Jul 20, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep.

destiny.

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by thecip on Jul 20, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought Wise would be the guy to go

simply because they keep saying Q! will be pulled for defense late in games and keeping BA made more sense because he’s better defensively and Pods could move to left.

But now that we know Wise has Joe Borchard power he has to be kept.

by Hawk is God on Jul 20, 2009 2:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't forget his stellar .243 OBP.

Ed Farmer: "Is it raining in here?"
Steve Stone: "I've made an egregious mistake."

by RWShow on Jul 20, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, if BA isn't in the bigs

then he isn’t in my sig.

it is what it is......

by BuehrleMan on Jul 20, 2009 2:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Neither can hit worth a shit

The question is defense. I used to think BA was a lot better. I’d also like to think the Sox could pick the better player between the two better than me.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Jul 20, 2009 2:42 PM CDT reply actions  

i know i don't think his defense is anything to write home about.

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by larry on Jul 20, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

sss warning with trying to use uzr for less than a half season's worth of defense

I was under the impression that you needed 3 years worth of data to make a solid conclusion, so it may help to look at the UZR #‘s for the last 3-5 years and see who comes out ahead. I haven’t taken the time to do so.

I understand that there is little difference between the two, so choosing between Wise and BA really isn’t that big of a deal, but this rubs me the wrong way given BA’s flashes of hitting the ball to RF and CF as well as my impression that Ozzie’s long-sustained displeasure with BA had too much to do with the decision.

I’d love it if KW acquired a 1.5-2.5 year solution to the CF problem so that we wouldn’t have this “conversation” any longer. I really hope Danks becomes a solid CF (at least until Mitchell pushes him to RF).

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jul 20, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, 1/2 season is not supposed to be reliable

but, from what i read in tht, this is probably more so for outfield rather than infield positions

Always bet on black!

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 20, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah more relevant for projecting out.

We are just talking about the facts up to this point. BA’s fantastic D is more of a myth at this point. If we look at him next to Dye yeah he’s fantastic, but in a race with my 6 year old, I’m Carl Lewis.

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 20, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

well past your prime?

and when did it become a requirement to have a 6 year old to comment at sss?

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Jul 20, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I voted for that earlier this year.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 20, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, I just tallied the product of the # innings in CF and UZR in CF for BA and D Wizzie for the past 5 years of data and then divided by 150

because I wanted to weigh the UZR numbers with respect to the innings played, and BA wins the UZR defensive battle 32.6 to 1.43. BA has also played more innings in CF, 1911 to 408.

I’m not exactly sure what this means, as this exercise has increased my # of questions as opposed to make a definitive statement, but I get the sense that BA is better in CF than D Wizzie.

Also, the WAR / innings at this point: BA 0.1 / 466 and D Wizzie 0.0 / 260.33

So, like, yeah, they don’t look very different, but I would still go with BA because I think the Sox need all the help they can get in order to win the division.

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jul 20, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

As UZR and WAR are cumulative I think number of innings is important no?

Just curious in general for the future. Not for this nonsense.

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 20, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I was trying to do, but somehow fucked it up

As and example, it didn’t seem right to be adding an UZR/150 of 86 in 13.3 innings to a UZR/150 of -13.8 in 144 innings for D Wizzie.

So for each playa, I took the raw CF UZR numbers for the last 5 years, multiplied by the # of innings in CF for the last 5 years, added up the data and divided by 150. 32.6 and 1.43 don’t look right to me, but that’s what I ended up with.

Bhoov seems to have been on the same wavelength and picked up the slack below.

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jul 20, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not that Q staying healthy the rest of the way is all on Ozzie, but this will be a bit of a challenge

at least for 2009, some Q > no Q, so what’s his best use? I’m thinking — aim for three PAs per game, pulling him after the third (or fourth, depending on the context of the game) PA. He’s also gotta sit or DH every third game. Even this might be too much playing time for his foot/ankle to handle…

by CWSKeith on Jul 20, 2009 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

50% playing time = victory.

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by larry on Jul 20, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

surgery doesn't usually help (if ever).

1.5 months of relative inactivity didn’t seem to help much. will four? this is one of those lingering injuries that just sticks around for a long time and, often, magically disappears one day. hard to say what will help him. other than stretching, of course.

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by larry on Jul 20, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lots and fucking lots of stretching.

Someone should tell Q that.

Just [expletive] Fuck It.

by homesickalien on Jul 20, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

needs to rub some dirt on it too.

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by thecip on Jul 20, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which is why he could have been back sooner than this.

But, that’s enough of that. Just start hitting, baby.

by dantesox on Jul 20, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are a funny, stubborn, misinformed guy, dante.

Amusing. Like a clown. ;)

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 20, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

somedays are worse than others with it

i know mine hurt like hell after soccer games and that was only once a week.

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by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Jul 20, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll never understand this move

So they kept the guy who can’t hit OR defend over the guy who can’t hit but CAN defend.

How does this make any sense?

by Steven Andrew Miller on Jul 20, 2009 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

ask KenWo

he’s had some good reasoning.

I just accidentally the Fleshlight.
Accidentally what?
THE WHOLE THING!!

by BoeJouma on Jul 20, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Opposite day today?

BA>>>>Wise.

Unless of course the roster has already reached Ozzie’s limit for the number of white guys on the team.

by Ahillock on Jul 20, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

makes very little sense

I figured Q would DH against
Lefties and BA would play CF with Pods in LF. Pods in Cf against righties with Q playing LF. Was this Ozzie’s call?

by Duck99 on Jul 20, 2009 2:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

who gives a fuck

seriously? do we care? why?

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 20, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm guessing some care

because the move seems to be egregiously wrong. despite the fact that they are both shit ballplayers, it seems rather apparent that one of them is actually shittier.

but hey, resume your bitching about bitching.

by Craig Grebeck on Jul 20, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Egregiously wrong? Seriously?

Holy hyperbole… we’re likely talking less than half-a-win difference between the two. Would you liked to be stabbed in the left or right eye?

by CWSKeith on Jul 20, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

he meant "ridiculously" wrong.

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by larry on Jul 20, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh for fuck's sake...

yes, it’s apparent they both suck, and the difference isn’t huge, but keeping wise instead of anderson leaves the team with zero adequate defensive outfielders.

keeping wise on the 25 man roster is perplexing. it’s as simple as that.

by Craig Grebeck on Jul 20, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

see tdogg's post about uzr (tdogg, you gotta link on that?)

at least this year, anderson might not be significantly better at D than the dwise…

Always bet on black!

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 20, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

it aint just this year.

and fangraphs would have that.

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by larry on Jul 20, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

FWIW, I actually agree with you -- I'd probably rather keep Anderson

it’s just — as you yourself mentioned — the difference between the two is so insignificant that it ain’t worth getting wound up over.

by CWSKeith on Jul 20, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

would you like to be stabbed harder in the right eye or softer in the left eye?

50 cents is more than 49 cents. saying 49 cents is more is egregiously wrong.

by Trooper on Jul 20, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

its obvious that they don't think quentin will last

and would rather not lose wise than keep anderson….

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 20, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

D-wise is

out of options BA had one left. This move has nothing to do with who plays better defense or hits. It is just so they can hang on to d-wise long enough to trade him for some more junk

by Samuroth on Jul 20, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

WISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

PUNTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Flowers – who is apparently the motherfucking boogeyman of the southern league

by omnipotent grab on Jul 20, 2009 3:00 PM CDT reply actions  

It's about freaking time (Q!)

Look I have always been a BA fan. But Im sorry his defense has not been that much better than Wise’s lately (I know Wise had a really bad game). Uzr backs that up. In the battle of the midgets, I suspect Wise will hit better than BA.

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 20, 2009 3:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Are you guys just eyeballing for D with BA?

Or is it his golden locks that bounce when he runs and winks at the honies?

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 20, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

nothing to back it up

just a hunch.

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 20, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

i agree with you

id rather have wise up than anderson in basically any situation that doesn’t involve the mariners.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 20, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anderson had options left, that was probably the basis for the decision.

so everyone can STFU about it now, Q! is back.
thats the important part of this equation.

I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT

by e-gus on Jul 20, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why would options matter in this case?

Who in the world is going to pick up Wise? And if they do, he is as replaceable as there is a guy in baseball.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 20, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep, his 0.0 WAR this year is literally the definition of a replacement level player

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jul 20, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe but whatever

I won’t lose sleep over it. Wise managed a .742 ops last year. BA hasn’t sniffed that.

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 20, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that was luck.

Any reason he hasn’t repeated that this year with just 30 less AB’s?

by Ahillock on Jul 20, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

shouldn't you weigh that for the # PAs?

since neither of them get all that much playing time, I think it would be wiser to use more than one season and weight the numbers by PA or innings played.

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jul 20, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why?

I don’t care what Wise did 4 years ago for this moment. I’m more interested in their recent history, which is why I said hunch. Wise has super sucked with the bat this year but between AAA and the majors last year put up a decent line. If he continues to blow, he’s an idea. Release him and bring up BA.

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 20, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

past results are indicative of future return?

but yeah, if he continues to suck, BA’s just a flight away.

I think the “who give a fuck because they’re about the same” camp is right, the difference between the two is so slight it won’t matter.

I’d be all for trading for Ross, Spilboroughs (sp?), or Marlon Byrd, but I have no idea what it would take for any of those options and I don’t like the idea of dismantling the minors just when they’ve started to build them back up. This is why I’m not a GM, I suppose.

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jul 20, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Sox don't owe any favors to Wise

last year they called him up, he helped out the best he could, they both benefitted about as much as possible given his ability. If he doesn’t get it rolling, I don’t see why purchase the contract of Restovich, Cook or Kroeger.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 20, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

anybody else

scared about Scotty Pods playing CF? Have we blocked out how bad he was at it in 2006?

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by Bama Hawkeye on Jul 20, 2009 3:09 PM CDT reply actions  

its his offense we are keeping

and Q and JD would play a much worse center field.

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THE WHOLE THING!!

by BoeJouma on Jul 20, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I meant

’07. He was absolutely horrible in the ten games or so they played him there.

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by Bama Hawkeye on Jul 20, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

he is no worse than

swisher, griffey or especially mackowiak…. and that didn’t stop them from playing those guys

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 20, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why are people acting like the sky is falling?

Didn’t we know this was going to happen ?

Is it really such a shock that they’d keep Dwizzle over a guy who they’ve refused to play even when he was the lead choice for the position?

Fuck this noise.
Take me home, Q!!!!

Just [expletive] Fuck It.

by homesickalien on Jul 20, 2009 3:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Exactly. Keep your eyes on the prize.

BA = Six in one
D-Weezy = half a dozen in the other

Q! is back. Tonight. At long last.

by 67WMAQ on Jul 20, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Q! is back v. 40 years ago humans walked on the moon

more significant event or THE SAME EVENT???

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by thecip on Jul 20, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

only one foot? i find your lack of faith disturbing

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jul 20, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

the other has been replaced by machine

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by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Jul 20, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I figured they were letting Wise earn the spot by playing him all weekend...

… but did I miss something? Besides the meaningless bomb he hit yesterday, Wise continued to look like a Single A baseball player. I guess they are both bad so they sent BA down because he had the option and Wise didn’t.

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by Adam Hoge on Jul 20, 2009 3:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Agree with TDogg. Anderson's defense

is overrated. His UZR in almost 2000 innings is 1.1/150 games. Almost exactly league average. Less data on Wise, but he’s probably about league average. Neither of them can hit. I’d take wise too. Either way considering playing time the difference won’t be more than what 1-3 runs (.1-.2 wins) the rest of the year.

That said, man our outfield defense is gonna be ugly. The offensive upgrade from BA to Q is massive enough to make this the only real option, but man it could be ugly.

larrys fortune cookie: you will learn much and have the advantage of not reading my pompous responses.

by bhoov on Jul 20, 2009 3:19 PM CDT reply actions  

nothing like a brian anderson debate to bring bhoov back.

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by larry on Jul 20, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

welcome back

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by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Jul 20, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

It'll be hilariously bad.

But it is what it is.

How long before Quentin goes back on the DL? I’ll take Aug. 8 in the pool.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jul 20, 2009 3:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

July 21st

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 20, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

sour puss

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by Tdogg on Jul 20, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

wet blanket.

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by thecip on Jul 20, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who the hell is this?

Are you finished with your research already?

Welcome back, Doc. ;)

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 20, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks

just got back from the game. Yeah, crazy work the last few months. Things have kinda returned to normal now. Back just in time for Q’s return!

larrys fortune cookie: you will learn much and have the advantage of not reading my pompous responses.

by bhoov on Jul 20, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm, Q was in NC for rehab,

bhoov is a Doc, bhoov is in NC, bhoov arrives in time for Q’s return…

I’m just sayin’.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 21, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Where did you

get bhoov is in NC? I’m right here in the chi. But wish I could take credit for Q’s return.

larrys fortune cookie: you will learn much and have the advantage of not reading my pompous responses.

by bhoov on Jul 21, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought you were in NC earlier this year. Really earlier.

If not, my bad.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 21, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whats the purpose of having 2 lefty CF's?

Why not keep BA so you have at least 1 righty for bad matchups?

by Ahillock on Jul 20, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

because now it become the issue of having Wise and Quentin supplementing each other

Pods is the everyday LF/CFer. Yup, that’s where we are right now. It ain’t pretty, but they’ve done better with worse.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 20, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

any pitcher that either of them would be facing

is a bad matchup for the white sox.

it is what it is......

by BuehrleMan on Jul 20, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

All I know is

that after this season I don’t ever want to hear the names Wise or Anderson again in relation to the Sox.

by Steven Andrew Miller on Jul 20, 2009 3:26 PM CDT reply actions  

The prodigal son has returned...

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 20, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Carlos always finishes his dinner...

always.

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 20, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Carlos doesn't want to be fed, he wants to hunt."

They clearly left Wise on the roster as a sacrifice to Q! BA will be back up to the bigs in a matter of hours.

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 20, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I assume that

a certain numbers of hitters must always bat between Q and Beck so their combined awesomeness does not somehow create a nuclear reaction, but does anyone know just how many hitters that is?

by palehose67 on Jul 20, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

For tonight at least, they're back to back.

I assume the danger is that anyone between them would be crushed by the awesome.

by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 20, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'll have my assistant Beaker get to work on that problem right away..

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 20, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

the cell = Chernobyl

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by thecip on Jul 20, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Big Sexy going to Carolina

Watch out ladies!

Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.

by ChicagoPete on Jul 20, 2009 3:42 PM CDT reply actions  

All night.

Or at least once.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 20, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can set down your cocktail on that shelf

while you’re resting

Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.

by ChicagoPete on Jul 20, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

gahdaumm

Wave that flag.... Wave it wide and high.. Summertime... Done come and gone, My oh my

by 815Sox on Jul 20, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quentin's on his way, Quentin's on his way, Quentin's on his way...

with another J and everything’s okay, yeah everything’s okay…(except not for BA)

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Jul 20, 2009 4:06 PM CDT reply actions  

i'd like to think that Kenny knows what he is doing....

but wise is absolutely TERRIBLE. I’m going to boycott games where his name appears in any lineup outside of the 16 inch softball league where he belongs. Wise is not better than Anderson at anything. They should have DFA’d Wise if he is out of options. There is not one team in the Major Leagues that would put a claim on a 31 year old career minor leaguer with .211 career average and a .252 career OBP. Speed does not matter if you are not on base!!! Either guy, regardless, was going to be a defensive replacement for Quentin or Pods, so why not pick the better arm/defense?

Confucious say "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by fiskfan on Jul 20, 2009 4:16 PM CDT reply actions  

taken from my brothers facebook....

doesn’t understand why all these people are upset that the sox sent brian anderson down and kept wise. quite frankly i think that they both suck, and i wish they brought timo perez back! My God!!!!!

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 20, 2009 4:17 PM CDT reply actions  

after a deep breath and reading your post….i demand Geoff Blum!

Confucious say "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by fiskfan on Jul 20, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

A dead Ivan Calderon is better actually

Confucious say "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by fiskfan on Jul 20, 2009 4:21 PM CDT reply actions  

don't get me excited.

i loved calderon!

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 20, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

i’ll even take reid nichols at this point!

Confucious say "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by fiskfan on Jul 20, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder if i can get the DRay site to bad mouth the Sox O again.

that was fun earlier this season.

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 20, 2009 4:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Too busy complaining how the umps rigged the World Series

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 20, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did anyone read

this.

Is the Royal’s site sole purpose to bad mouth KW? Does that make him feel better? lol.

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 20, 2009 4:31 PM CDT reply actions  

i particularly love how we are the only team not represented in the division lol

Confucious say "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by fiskfan on Jul 20, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

this kind of pisses me off

i know we don’t have the best relationship with sky, but shit, an invite would have been nice.

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Jul 20, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe Cheat was invited and he ran away in pure terror?

Never wanna get on the bad side of a Kansas City Royals blog.

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 20, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

i lost a lot of respect for the royals review writer

he’s had some really good shit in the past. to come up with some hackneyed shit like he did in that “round table” should have been beneath him. is it a mystery why our team is still in the race? no. we have a competent front office and manager who don’t continually shoot themselves in the foot and stick to an organizational plan.

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Jul 20, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought the same thing

I generally like round table discussions. I didn’t know if you guys were invited and chose not to participate. Either way Will’s responses are just ridiculous. I’ll have fun next year when he returns to inform us the Royals will finish ahead of the White Sox. And no, Dayton is not as good as KW.

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 20, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

i went ahead and posted a comment to the board….oh well

Confucious say "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by fiskfan on Jul 20, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

wtf.

it’s not like we’re lacking for potential representatives. at least ask Jim ffs.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Jul 20, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's hilarious.

i’m sure there’s a statistical reason why it’s a good idea to have an al central roundtable without one of the teams.

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by larry on Jul 21, 2009 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

good to know we all got slighted

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Jul 21, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Have the Sox considered...

a four man outfield w/ a three man infield?

Your offense is only as good as your bullpen.

by defensive indifference on Jul 20, 2009 4:33 PM CDT reply actions  

i personally think they should just let konerko, AJ, Buerhle, Beckham, and Dye play every position

Confucious say "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by fiskfan on Jul 20, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

they should play a 1-1-3-1-3.

diamond formation with a sweeper.

it is what it is......

by BuehrleMan on Jul 20, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

love it!

Confucious say "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by fiskfan on Jul 20, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I say we compromise.

BA is 27, has a career OBP of .288, SLG of .364. Hits righty.
Wise is 31, has a career OBP of .252, SLG of .373. Hits lefty.
There is a third option … he’s 28, has a career OBP of .319, SLG of .305. Hits lefty. He is, I believe, available.

Can anyone name this mystery ballplayer?

by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 20, 2009 4:33 PM CDT reply actions  

One Pablo Ozuna.

Your offense is only as good as your bullpen.

by defensive indifference on Jul 20, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

pablo (and timo) are both in their 30s, too

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jul 20, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

while looking up numbers for your question, i ran into this. guess who’s career line this is:

.205 avg/ .284 obp/ .352 slg/ .636 ops

better than wise…….and a switch hitter

Confucious say "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by fiskfan on Jul 20, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

none other than the GREAT Joe Borchard

Confucious say "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by fiskfan on Jul 20, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

True, speed cannot slump

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 20, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

we get q! back and i have to skim through a thread full of ba/wise talk?

fuck you guys! we’ve got last year’s mvp of the first 5 months back and the discussion is about the douchebags who were trying to stay on the team?

how about some projections for q! for the rest of the year?

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Jul 20, 2009 4:46 PM CDT reply actions  

ok i’ll agree….just because i’m sick of talking about two guys who should be cleaning up dog shit in my back yard. i’ll go .284 19hr 61rbs……and 67 hbps

Confucious say "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by fiskfan on Jul 20, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

i expect not much production

and not too many games played.

it is what it is......

by BuehrleMan on Jul 20, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

From your mouth to God's ears.

If he puts up that line from here on out – we’re all gonna be well.

I assume the 50 games are because of scheduled days off, and not because he hurts himself again.

by 67WMAQ on Jul 20, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ozzie on BA

Oz on Anderson: “if I didn’t like Brian he would have been out of here a long time ago because I got a lot of power.”

by Option27 on Jul 20, 2009 4:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Kenny on BA

Dewayne just gave me one helluva reach around

Confucious say "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by fiskfan on Jul 20, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

BTW, I can guarantee a loss tonight.

I’ve gone into a rut where every time I am free to sit down and watch a full Sox game, they get blown out. See: the last two Sundays.

And I have nothing to do tonight…

Your offense is only as good as your bullpen.

by defensive indifference on Jul 20, 2009 4:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Nah.

Your offense is only as good as your bullpen.

by defensive indifference on Jul 20, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Take a nap

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 20, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

and go get the papers

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jul 20, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Papers?

What is this, 1987?

Your offense is only as good as your bullpen.

by defensive indifference on Jul 20, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Take a nap

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 20, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I tried that yesterday...

but since I was sleeping in front of the tv Jose decided that was reason enough to start sucking.

Your offense is only as good as your bullpen.

by defensive indifference on Jul 20, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

get the papers

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jul 20, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

watch the erin andrews peep hole video instead

Confucious say "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by fiskfan on Jul 20, 2009 4:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Did you hear the speech by the guy that won the Jimmy V award at the ESPYs?

“I’d also like to thank whoever had me coming in on the red carpet so close after Erin Andrews.”

Classic.

"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT

by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 20, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

ya that was great!

Confucious say "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by fiskfan on Jul 20, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds fine to me.

BA’s has chance after chance for years to no avail while D-Wise was a pleasant surprise for us. Plus D-Wise looked good for two games before he got hurt which is…three more games than BA has all season.

"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT

by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 20, 2009 4:55 PM CDT reply actions  

ya he looked great with that 0-4 with 4k’s to start the season as our leadoff man

Confucious say "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by fiskfan on Jul 20, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right. I guess I'd look silly if I'd mentioned that game.

Phew…

"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT

by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 20, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

i’m just glad Q’s back so i don’t have to watch Wise swing like Griffey…..only to feel the breeze in Northwest Indiana

Confucious say "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by fiskfan on Jul 20, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

i’ll agree with you there….IF he makes contact….it usually is pretty.

Confucious say "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by fiskfan on Jul 20, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did Q finish .300+ in the minors?

Any long balls?

"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT

by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 20, 2009 5:26 PM CDT reply actions  

.375/.480/.550

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 20, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Graci to you and Fisk.

"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT

by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 20, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

i know he finished over .300…..i think close to .350 actually. with 1 tater from what i can remember….

Confucious say "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by fiskfan on Jul 20, 2009 5:28 PM CDT reply actions  

wish i could watch Q's triumphant return tonight.

all i know is that we gotta avenge steve erwin tonight and the next 3 games

I just accidentally the Fleshlight.
Accidentally what?
THE WHOLE THING!!

by BoeJouma on Jul 20, 2009 5:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Interesting tidbit on Value of Halladay with respect to

team……link

The teams that have been mentioned the most often in the Halladay hunt (and their respective PECOTA-based playoff odds through Saturday) are the Red Sox (91%), Yankees (78%), Phillies (72%), Angels (67%), Cardinals (56%), Tigers (39%), White Sox (31%), Giants (30%), Brewers (27%), and Rangers (21%). Using ballpark estimates which should be pretty close to the true value, adding Halladay would respectively increase their playoff odds by varying amounts: Red Sox (98%), Yankees (92%), Phillies (89%), Angels (86%), Cardinals (78%), Tigers (63%), White Sox (55%), Giants (54%), Brewers (50%), and Rangers (42%).

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 20, 2009 5:49 PM CDT reply actions  

that's a pretty nice bump

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Jul 20, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that's why I kind of came around on dealing for him

even before I saw it spelled out like this. Not for Beckham, but I’d listen if I was KW or be creative if I was KW.

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 20, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think Beckham CAN be included in the trade...

since it’s been less than a year since he was signed.

Your offense is only as good as your bullpen.

by defensive indifference on Jul 20, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

August 12, or thereabouts

was when he signed, and he indeed cannot be traded before then

¡signature!

by billyok on Jul 20, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Screw stats, average, or the rest of the bs...

for whatever reason I just don’t like Wise as a player – seems as though he’s Ozzie’s new Pablo though

Remember when "Cuban Pride" meant something...

by Brush Back on Jul 20, 2009 8:06 PM CDT reply actions  

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