Clayton Richard Is An Enigma, Forces Sox to Rethink Bullpen Move
by The Cheat on Jul 26, 2009 11:37 PM CDT
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Most of the time when I write a recap, I don't simply rehash the game's run-scoring plays or run the standard post-game player/manager quotes. I write from the point of view of an everyday fan. This can occasionally lead to some embarrassing posts in hindsight, but I suspect is the main draw of the site for most.
I bring this up for two reasons:
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I don't have a good feel for this team right now. I'm lacking the proper perspective. It's been a solid two weeks since I even got to so much as listen to a White Sox game. My only real in-game interaction with the Sox came when I checked the score of the game (and my email) from a backwoods library in the middle of Iowa during the 4th inning of Buehrle's perfect game. (Sadly, I didn't notice he had something working at the time.)
I honestly don't have any read on Ozzie or Kenny's thinking right now, and I'm not even going to try and fake it.
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The last time I wrote about Clayton Richard in this space I was begging for him to be pulled from the rotation.
For me, no baseball axiom has been reinforced more this season than Hawk's You're never as bad as you look when you're losing, and you're never as good as you look as when you're winning, which can be carried over to individual players as well.
Clayton Richard was on life support as a starter, a placeholder until the Sox found a better option. Now he's tossed two consecutive 1-run, 8 inning outings. Richard's true talent lies somewhere in between the me calling for his head a few weeks ago and the unlikely ace who's forcing me to fight the urge to ask why he's about to be removed from the rotation.
The company line is that Bartolo Colon is headed back for the rotation. Yet somehow I think his return could be a short one. Colon has shown zero interest in pitching from the bullpen, is one cheeseburger from the DL, and has hardly earned his way back into the rotation. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to see him get lit up and Richard to be slotted right back into the rotation with Colon pulling another disappearing act, or to have KW package Richard and/or Poreda in exchange for a pitcher too talented to be saddled with the 5th Starter tag.
But what do I know? I'm just a guy who watches the Sox play once every two weeks and hasn't read all the postgame quotes.
Richard may get another start.
"Last two outings this kid has been great," Guillen said after Sunday's win over Detroit. "I've got to sit down with Kenny on the plane ride to Minnesota] and talk about it. See if we have better ideas. What we have to do to keep him in the role, give him another shot. The way he pitched the last couple games he's been great."
Guillen was then asked if Richard had changed his mind about putting him back in the bullpen.
"To me, yeah. To me," he replied. "I'm the boss of the team, the manager, but this team runs by coaches, manager and general manager. We do all things together. [Today] we should have a better idea.
"Right now it seems like we have a six-man rotation, but I don't want to do that. In the meanwhile, this kid is pitching so great, we have to sit down and talk. See what the matchups are going to be and what we need."
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Richard may get another start, per Ozzie (via Cowley)
“Last two outings this kid has been great,‘’ Guillen said after Sunday’s win over Detroit. "I’ve got to sit down with Kenny on the plane ride to Minnesota] and talk about it. See if we have better ideas. What we have to do to keep him in the role, give him another shot. The way he pitched the last couple games he’s been great.’’
p.s. I see the Evony ad virus has spread to SB nation. These ads crack me up. “Look, boobies! Click here!”
Is it still the fourth inning?
by vince_ on Jul 26, 2009 11:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Start your journey now, my lord.
The cleavage is beckoning.
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by oahu420 on Jul 27, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good problem to have, I guess.
But Richard has to stay in the rotation while he is pitching like this. It’s now Kenny’s problem, not Ozzie’s. Bartolo might have to have another phantom injury if that’s what it takes.
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by picktoclick on Jul 26, 2009 11:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The decision between Richard and 'tolo is so hard it's easy.
We can all agree that neither are going to win us the season, but if they’re such a flip of the coin then we really should go with the one that isn’t due for a stroke in a couple weeks anyways. Really, Richard is a good-looking future 4th starter behind Buehrls, Danks, and Floyd – if he can pitch more innings more consistently. The best we can say about ‘tolo is that he’s a hungry-looking 5th starter that…will be out of breath in late innings.
I’m less concerned with getting Doc than I am with making sure we don’t mess up this nice looking opportunity with Richard and Torres (as well as Poreda). Heck, Getz wasn’t looking too hot at first, but he’s now a darn good ROY candidate should he continue playing as he has been lately.
The thought of Ramirez, Quentin, Danks, and Floyd getting their strings in order last year along with Getz, Beckham, Richard, and even Torres / Poreda / Nix coming along this year sure should make a fan’s mouth water for the present as well as the future.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 26, 2009 11:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Getz ROY? Did you mean Beckham?
Beckham isn’t the best ROY candidate in the AL either, but Getz is still below a .700 OPS. Beckham is at least on the honorable mention, Getz not so much.
by hitlesswonder on Jul 27, 2009 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Getz
he has been one of the better rookies this year offensively look at his AL rankings, i wouldnt say its completely out of the question for him to win it, but it just goes to show how shitty of a rookie class there is in the american league
by 23chisox14 on Jul 27, 2009 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think getz is up there for ROY
beckham has a much, much better shot to win it, but getz has been pretty fuckin good for a rookie
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by BoeJouma on Jul 27, 2009 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right on
Getz had a few really rough stretches but what I liked is that he didn’t fold, like Fields did for instance.
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by LT_sox_fan on Jul 27, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I meant Getz.
I said he’s a good candidate if he continues playing like he has: Getz batted .346 in July, and is either first or tied for first in three rookie statistics right now (via ESPN). I don’t remember what the stats were but I’ll pull them up tomorrow from the ESPN recording.
I used Getz as an example above because we didn’t know how he would work out while everyone here knew Becks was going to be big (making him not a good fit for the comparison). I wasn’t implying Beckham isn’t a ROY candidate or that he’s even less of one than Getz.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 27, 2009 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hits, doubles, and runs
not the most impressive categories to lead.
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by boyonthedock on Jul 27, 2009 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scoring runs is the point of the game, it’s not a bad stat to be the leader in.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 27, 2009 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he leads those categories because he's got the most playing time.
as the guys who got a bit later of a start to the mlb season and have higher rates of those counting stats play more, getz is going to drop. if he were leading in some rate stat categories, he’d be in much better shape. no knock on getz – he’s doing about what we could have hoped for – but he’s not a particularly good player.
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by larry on Jul 27, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This
“he’s doing about what we could have hoped for – but he’s not a particularly good player.”
The focus is always on CF, but 2b is a possibility for an upgrade in the offseason. Nothing against Getz and if he’s back, that’s fine with me, assuming some other upgrade is made, but I don’t think we should be married to him going fwd.
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by Q!'s Qrew on Jul 27, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously.
Doesn’t mean it’s not a bad stat to be the leader in.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 27, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, ESPN skipped that part in the replay.
As long as it’s not punch-outs and errors, I’m happy.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 27, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ROY? No but he's solid and will improve going forward
Getz isn’t star quality at this point in his development but that doesn’t mean he won’t be a good ballplayer for years to come. He has a good contact rate, great speed, sure hands and great instincts for a rookie. Brian Roberts didn’t turn a lot of heads his first couple of years in the big leagues either and most rookies struggle in their first year. I don’t think a .300 avg, .360 obp and .800 ops are beneath his ceiling in the future. With his speed and base running talent he could be a top of the order guy as soon as next year.
His range should get better at 2b with more experience there too. He was moved around a bit last year in Charlotte and didn’t play a full year there at the position. All in all, I like Getz and would rather spend $$ and or talent to upgrade cf next year.
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by picktoclick on Jul 27, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll never be close to Brian Roberts
He could be plenty serviceable in this league though, but Brian Roberts, come on.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 27, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who said he would? I said Brian Robert's struggled early in his career
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by picktoclick on Jul 27, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's the point in comparing him to a player he will be nothing like?
When you mention Brian Roberts, one would assume you did it for a reason. Most players improve from their rookie year, that’s a given.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 27, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll try to be more careful about that
don’t want anyone to assume
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by picktoclick on Jul 27, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, on second thought I may have underestimated him.
Check out the numbers for Pete Rose rookie year:
623 ab .273/.334/.371 with .705 ops
Getz this year
277 ab .263/.322/.367 with .689 ops
In Pete’s 2nd year his numbers came down accross the board compared to Getz. It’s only logical to project Getz career numbers to those career numbers of Pete Rose, IMO.
Coments? Discuss…………
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by picktoclick on Jul 27, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
an honest question (or three)
why do you post here? what exactly is it you seek to gain from this site? what is it that’s keeping you around here?
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Jul 27, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the camaraderie
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by picktoclick on Jul 27, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
psst
(Here’s more ammunition for you – that POS Ty Cobb only hit 240/288/300 as a rookie)
"It was like everything was slow motion," Wise said. "I stuck my hand out so slowly and was able to make the catch."
by ChicagoPete on Jul 27, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Pete!
although, one could argue he played in the dead ball era, it certainly helps my debate.
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by picktoclick on Jul 27, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No problem
That gritty intensity that Getz brings to the table every totally reminds me of Cobb. Let me know if you need other similar players to bolster your argument.
"It was like everything was slow motion," Wise said. "I stuck my hand out so slowly and was able to make the catch."
by ChicagoPete on Jul 27, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why I thought of Rose too, the grit!
How about Billy Martin?
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by picktoclick on Jul 27, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
4 syllable words like
camaraderie are frowned upon around here.
Consider yourself forewarned.
Thanks, Mark.
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by ballyb on Jul 27, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
better answer would've been
“mai frenz r heer”
or
“fur da lulz”
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by Q!'s Qrew on Jul 27, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
outstanding post....
would read again…maybe
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by furby2056 on Jul 27, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure he is going to be a top
of the order kind of guy, especially next year . . . but, surprisingly agree with most of the rest of that. The Sox will have bigger areas of concern to address next year.
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by jc2313 on Jul 27, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that 2B isn't a priority for 2010
They’ll have 2 OF slots to fill along with DH. Dye, Thome, and Pods (!?) have been really productive and there are no minor league replacements (unless they DH Flowers). That’s a lot of offense to try to replace.
The rotation will also be a pressing concern. The Sox will have 2 open slots and one of those needs to be filled by a more than average pitcher.
Getz or Nix at 2B in 2010 is pretty reasonable given the other holes to fill.
by hitlesswonder on Jul 27, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd be happy filling one of the OF slots next year
with a defensive stud, like the nationals did with nyjer morgan or seattle with franklin gutierrez. not sure who that might be, though. and it might be too late to get players like that cheaply anymore. still cheaper than going after any of the big name OFs.
i assume jd and pods will be back, with jd spending most of his time at DH with thome gone. i could also see quentin hitting there occasionally just to limit wear and tear on him. and i have no expectation that pods will be able to replicate what he’s done this year, i just think he’ll be back because he’ll be cheap and familiar and the organization seems to like him. so i expect the team might go into next offseason only looking for one starting OF instead of the 2 we’ll undoubtedly need after pods’s pixie dust wears off.
and i obviously don’t expect the sox to get involved in the bidding for bay or holliday (if either even makes it to FA) or any other big names, so they’ll probably be looking for a second tier guy for short years and not much money. candidates?
- rick ankiel has been a solid defensive outfielder this year and was pretty good offensively the past two seasons. he’d probably be cheap after a down year at the plate, but then again the PEDs may have worn off and he could be worthless from now on.
- austin kearns is apparently an excellent defensive right fielder, and will still only be 30 next season, but he’s never hit like he was projected to, and walker is no cooper.
- xavier nady isn’t much of a defender, but he’s been a pretty good hitter when he’s been healthy.
also thinking about defense, signing adrian beltre and shifting beckham to 2B could be a nice upgrade. i’d guess gordo would be a significant upgrade over getz in the field, and beltre’s bat would probably play better at the cell than safeco. he might also be a little cheaper after a down year and injury.
oh, wait, i just noticed that chone figgins will be a free agent this offseason. that’s obviously where all our money will go.
by Ryno on Jul 27, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did the Brewers resign Cameron?
Can he still play defense? If so, I’d be fine with him as a one year rental stop-gap type, if that’s what you are looking for.
Otherwise, check teams with financial issues, there are a lot of them out there. A minor trade may be the way to go.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 27, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cameron's a decent option, despite his advanced age
other guys i didn’t mention that might fit the bill include marlon byrd, coco crisp (assuming KC doesn’t want to pay him $8 million next year), and endy chavez.
with the guys i listed previously, i was trying to find the “next jermaine dye,” or more likely a poor man’s version. but a guy around 30 or 31 who’s shown potential but for whatever reason hasn’t put it all together yet. not saying any of those guys are likely to come close to JD’s incredible production for the sox, but they’re sort of similar to what JD was when we got him, though none have shown quite as much ability as he had.
by Ryno on Jul 27, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chone & Lackey!!!
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by Q!'s Qrew on Jul 27, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and kotchman
fixed
that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma
by furby2056 on Jul 27, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
remember all the hub bub and arguments surrounding Kotchman on here
a couple years ago? I do. He ain’t much.
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by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How. Dare. You.
by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 27, 2009 5:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
do you read anything anyone else links to or writes here?
THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY
by colintj on Jul 27, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, you tell me!
do you read anything anyone writes here? do you even watch baseball? are you just here because you got kicked off the world of warcraft forums?
by Trooper on Jul 27, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The editors like to butt in every once in a while to make sure none of the newcomers feel to good about themselves.
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by Jackkoho on Jul 27, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whooooosh
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by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Jul 27, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
see above for typical editor contribution
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by picktoclick on Jul 27, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
about as bright as a 20 watt light bulb
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by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Jul 27, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still a step above from JoeCoolRacist666
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by Ozzie Montana on Jul 27, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
small step
still the same technique of argument-by-repetition with zero indication that the other side is being considered, but at least the topics are sox related.
by Trooper on Jul 27, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that as long as we position snipers in left field and reinforce to Clayton that any bad inning as a starter will be his last
He will pitch nothing but perfect games the rest of the way
¡signature!
by billyok on Jul 27, 2009 12:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if this wouldn't be a great time to trade Richard
He’s definitely intriguing, and it’s great that the Sox system produced someone like him. But he’s still has only 1.5 pitches I think. It’s possible he’s the next Washburn (I mean that in a good way), but the odds are still against it.
If there’s another club that would be trading a solid starter and really wants a cheap LHP that can hit 96mph, I think the Sox should explore packaging Richard with something else really good (Ramirez? Flowers?) and see what they could get.
That being said, I wouldn’t be upset if the Sox kept Richard to fill out one of the two open spots in the 2010 rotation.
by hitlesswonder on Jul 27, 2009 12:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
unrelated: sup brah?
knocked his fucking dick in the dirt! - BuehrleMan
by BoeJouma on Jul 27, 2009 1:24 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
humorous
appears to be a cubs game as well
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by boyonthedock on Jul 27, 2009 1:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like the guy next to him is touching his leg.
Homos.
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by oahu420 on Jul 27, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
(not that there’s anything wrong with that,)
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by oahu420 on Jul 27, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clayton Richard
Honestly after my rant which was mainly fueled by the white sox not being in first place i thought i would have been banned. this must be heaven after all.
after seeing clayton richard doing good in back to back games i now know that anything is possible.
im surrounded by cubs fans here in iowa and it makes me sick.
Could Clayton Richard turn around and be a gavin floyd or a john danks? even if he was half that good i would settle for it. i dont think we need to trade this guy theres not much out there we can get that would really help the team in the future.
im sure he will go back to form and pitch 4 great innings and then have a big meltdown in the 5th
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by Czheck on Jul 27, 2009 2:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
just got back from detroit...
saw jon miller and steve phillips going back to their hotel which we stayed at…
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart
by Jbasic89 on Jul 27, 2009 3:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did Miller have cheeseburgers in his pockets?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 27, 2009 6:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont know i was really high
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by Jbasic89 on Jul 27, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You stole U-God's ecstacy and glow sticks?
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by BobbySouthSide on Jul 27, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think he did drop a bottle of water three times before he got to the lobby
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by Jbasic89 on Jul 27, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tough call on the pitching situation
Hard to tell with Richard…obv Colon is worthless in the pen. Do we still need to trade for a SP? I’m not sure. This is why I’m glad I don’t have to make the decisions that Kenny does.
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by Q!'s Qrew on Jul 27, 2009 5:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Colon sucks and ain't getting any better.
I am in favor still of waiving him. He had his chance. He’ll do nothing but make us regret the fact we allowed him back. He got lucky on Friday. I’m not completely sold on Richard RIGHT NOW, but he can be a part of the future, and that could start now.
by dantesox on Jul 27, 2009 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, huge win last night
Tough to say in July, but really may have saved our chances last night…huge difference b/w a sweep/4 back and getting the win and just 2 back. Have to play well for a change in the Twinkeedome though
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by Q!'s Qrew on Jul 27, 2009 5:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am quite concerned with Q!
He is hitting like shit, using his arms for everything on the swing – not using his legs much and I am wondering if that has to do with the foot, he is beating himself up mentally. All of this adds up to another Q! accurance in the near future.
Not sure how to fix any of that….but it isn’t looking like just a slump or trying to just get back on track. He looks totally off and Walker is not the guy to help him fix it.
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by BobbySouthSide on Jul 27, 2009 7:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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by larry on Jul 27, 2009 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait till the rug at the twinkie dome gets him....not good.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 27, 2009 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He does look like shit.
But they need to leave him alone and keep playing him. He’s moving well and has looked good in the outfield.
by dantesox on Jul 27, 2009 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the classic pressing too much after injury
He’s not going to hit like last season, but I think with more playing time he’s proven to be too good of a hitter to continue popping out to shallow left every other at bat.
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by Ozzie Montana on Jul 27, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But how long can they sit Wise if Q continues to struggle?
by hitlesswonder on Jul 27, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not long. Clearly
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by Q!'s Qrew on Jul 27, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the 1-3 weekend, Cheat?
2-2 was all I wanted. DB. Get a shave. At least look like you know something.
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by winningugly on Jul 27, 2009 7:40 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
"Toonder"? What's that?
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by Chiburb on Jul 27, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seeing as how I've heard from Toonder today and I noticed a rhythm comment in the Right Rail, I am happy to know the two of them did not get WU'ed after all.
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by homesickalien on Jul 27, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he needs mouth hardware to get him going these days.
by Trooper on Jul 27, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn't know love until he met tsk.
So, Buehrle pitches a perfect game. And Josh Fields hits a grand slam. And Dewayne Wise makes an unreal play to save said perfect game. And the Sox climb into first for the first time since May 1. And this all supposedly happens on on hsa's birthday.
There is no freakin’ way this actually happened right? hsa, prepare to wake up in 3 … 2 … 1 …
by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 23, 2009 2:22 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
by homesickalien on Jul 27, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More thoughts later but yea, Q looks pretty bad at the plate
His timing is off and he’s getting beat badly on the inside corner.
Richard doesn’t go 8 innings his first dozen or so MLB starts, then goes 8 innings twice. Strange game.
by madvillian on Jul 27, 2009 8:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
At this point I'd like KW to look seriously at George Sherrill
or a left like him and what it’s take to acquire him (not Richard.) The Sox fifth starter situation is desirable. We can argue over who does what but I feel confident about at least avg production from the spot.
Im not trading Alexei (covered earlier on his value) and there are no obvious holes in the lineup.
Q’s first week he didn’t look bad but he certainly regressed. I think he’s pressing.
Oh and WU LOVE Smoltz.
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by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2009 8:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good post.
Only I would not allow Colon any more chances. He’s gonna get lit up.
by dantesox on Jul 27, 2009 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Richard seems to have suddenly figured it out
I’m kind of bummed they’re moving him to the bullpen to make room for Colon, I’d like to see a few more starts out of him to see if he can stay on a roll. But, Ozzie’s gotta have that 2nd lefty in the pen God forbid.
Colon better have a good start on Wed, I suspect he’s on a very short leash from here on out.
"It was like everything was slow motion," Wise said. "I stuck my hand out so slowly and was able to make the catch."
by ChicagoPete on Jul 27, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sherrill would be a great addition. Lot's of teams are after him though...
Sox win, cubs lose.....what a wonderful world!
by picktoclick on Jul 27, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've been wondering
if the sox would have any interest in ian snell. seems he could be a cheap addition.
by soxshenanigans on Jul 27, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they feel like they have enough 5th starter candidates
Unless they want Snell in the pen….
by hitlesswonder on Jul 27, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was just thinking
that since snell is fairly young and cheap and wants out of the pittsburgh organization. He can sit in our aaa instead of theirs for the rest of season, be some insurance and be able to try to make the team next season
by soxshenanigans on Jul 27, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sherrill is going to take a fair haul to acquire
and I don’t think he is worth it. I have had him on my fantasy team all year, so I have kept a close watch…
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 27, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank God for Bart.
I mean the Bay Area Rapid Transit, PPB. This is where the K/BB ratio wins! 6 K/1BB rocks. F ERA and W/L.
I think Obama needs to have a beer with us and broker a racial truce.
We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
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by winningugly on Jul 27, 2009 12:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Is this our last series at the chamber of horrors?
Is it still the fourth inning?
by vince_ on Jul 27, 2009 8:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Very, very exciting....
If Cowley tweets a fucking word, I am on the next flight to rip his balls off with my bare hands.
Regards!
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 12:20 PM PDT
by homesickalien on Jul 27, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No.
One more after this- August 31, September 1 & 2.
Yes. Hell yes. Mercy. Grab bench. - O.M.
by oahu420 on Jul 27, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit.
If Cowley tweets a fucking word, I am on the next flight to rip his balls off with my bare hands.
Regards!
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 12:20 PM PDT
by homesickalien on Jul 27, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit is right
It’s after:
4 in Boston
4 in New York
Then followed by the make up in Wrigley and:
4 at home against Boston
2 at home against Oakland (cake compared to the rest of this)
3 in LA
If we are still within striking distance after that stretch, then we may just pull this thing out
by CatBrains on Jul 27, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somehow I am a lot more relieved to be finished with
8 games vs Tampa.
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The biggest issue with the NYY/BOS series
is that they are all 4 games, so the likelihood of lucking out on pitching match-ups and missing really good front-end guys goes down significantly.
by CatBrains on Jul 27, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear you
but its not like the White Sox are trotting out chopped liver.
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No but it's not like the NYY/BOS pitchers have to face the NYY/BOS line-ups
I agree the White Sox offense is getting better but they still aren’t exactly scoring in droves.
Also I misread something, that series in NY is only 3 games… so here’s to hoping we can miss 2 of CC, AJ, and Joba
by CatBrains on Jul 27, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want Joba in both of those series
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
by e-gus on Jul 27, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
totally...good last two starts, but it's been an ugly year for him
lots of ppl out here pissed and want him in the 8th inning role…can’t say I disagree…he was dominant last year.
Formerly Crede's Crew
by Q!'s Qrew on Jul 27, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That Boston lineup scare you more then ours does?
It’s not like their line up is perfect, they’re looking into Adrian Gonzalez for a reason.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 27, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about droves
but the White Sox offense right now is pretty good. One of the best OPS in baseball over last 30 days and certainly better than the Red Sox overall.
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bay has been ice cold
I dont expect that to last, do you?
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
by e-gus on Jul 27, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no it wont last but the White Sox offense is still better
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One guy heating up doesn't make their offense much better than ours.
Boston pitching will have to deal with a potent offense, just like the White Sox will. I don’t see any reason to think offensively we aren’t comparable.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 27, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you just want him to heat up to propel your fantasy team there buddy
haha
that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma
by furby2056 on Jul 27, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure
but not in early September!
Nice surge recently by the way. I didnt think youd catch the leaders and here youve already passed me.
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
by e-gus on Jul 27, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks
the pitching is keeping up for me finally, and my infield has been pretty solid as of late
that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma
by furby2056 on Jul 27, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm surpised i'm in 7th
i haven’t looked at that team in weeks
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Jul 27, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
odds are you're not alone
I had a buddy text me earlier about his team asking how he’s doing b/c he hasn’t checked in weeks…won 10-0 this past week.
Formerly Crede's Crew
by Q!'s Qrew on Jul 27, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i do love that wu is sitting in 17th in our SSS league though
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Jul 27, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow...I enjoy that as well
Formerly Crede's Crew
by Q!'s Qrew on Jul 27, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha yeah he's doing a solid job
that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma
by furby2056 on Jul 27, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and he thought he was gonna do so good
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Jul 27, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his thought process for everything lol
that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma
by furby2056 on Jul 27, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, you can tell I have put the time in this year.
We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
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by winningugly on Jul 27, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how am i doing?
I’ve forgot my password
by hoodlight on Jul 27, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
9th place you POS
that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma
by furby2056 on Jul 27, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know we usually have no troubles with the Mariners, but don't forget the two series in Seattle in that time too...Seattle's not so incredibly shitty this year.
If Cowley tweets a fucking word, I am on the next flight to rip his balls off with my bare hands.
Regards!
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 12:20 PM PDT
by homesickalien on Jul 27, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they may have sold off beltre by then
washburn too
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Jul 27, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't expect Beltre to go anywhere...but we'll see!
If Cowley tweets a fucking word, I am on the next flight to rip his balls off with my bare hands.
Regards!
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 12:20 PM PDT
by homesickalien on Jul 27, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well if they start falling off they should look to trade him
see what they can get for him as a rental
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Jul 27, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carlos Gomez.
Major league career - .249 / .296 / .352 / .647.
vs Sox - 354 / .373 / .576 / .948.
Thanks, Mark.
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by ballyb on Jul 27, 2009 9:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
KW should sign him and stick him in the minors to rot
Is it still the fourth inning?
by vince_ on Jul 27, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
along with cy mays, nick punto
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mays...good god, I had erased that guy from memory. Thanks for that...
Formerly Crede's Crew
by Q!'s Qrew on Jul 27, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, i hated that douche
that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma
by furby2056 on Jul 27, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hawk would have him live in the basement
like Super Mario and Sid the Kid
by Hawk is God on Jul 27, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need to go 4 - 3 in the next 7 games.
Would be huge.
Thanks, Mark.
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by ballyb on Jul 27, 2009 9:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
we can, and we will
either 2-1 and 2-2 or 1-2 and 3-1 (I think the latter may be more likely)
Formerly Crede's Crew
by Q!'s Qrew on Jul 27, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a tough spot with Colon and Richard right now
If Colon doesn’t get the starting nod he’ll probably just quit on the team. Now, this wouldn’t be much of a loss but Colon does provide insurance. An injury happens or Richard loses his new found command and things could get ugly quick at the back end.
That said, I’d go with Richard and take my chances with Colon. If he has any sense of team and duty he’ll go to the pen and make a spot spart when they need him. I doubt that though, but it’s a risk worth taking IMO.
I’m still having a hard time seeing this as anything but a 82-85 win team. A trade for a starter seems the only thing that could add another couple of wins. I think Q’s addition will help, but not enough.
by madvillian on Jul 27, 2009 9:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's a nice problem to haveq
There’s some competition for the 5th spot now, whereas before it was a black hole. I’ve got no problem with Richard in the pen breathing down Bartolo’s neck. Colon probably realizes that a couple bad starts and he’s gone, they’re not going to have any patience for the BS he pulled in the first half.
"It was like everything was slow motion," Wise said. "I stuck my hand out so slowly and was able to make the catch."
by ChicagoPete on Jul 27, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, and this Getz for ROY talk is ludicrous
Sure he’s been good lately, but his OPS is still pretty bad, especially his OBP.
by madvillian on Jul 27, 2009 9:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
And it will stay that way until he consistently lays off that high fastball he can’t catch up to. His swing has some holes in it, but still have to be pretty happy with what he’s done. It’s not like anyone had extremely high expectations for the guy, I’ve been pleasanty surprised by his production.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 27, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a rookie 2B putting up a .700 OPS
Jeez, give the kid a break. He’s been steadily improving all year, he’ll probably have league average production by the time it’s over. For a 26yr old rookie, that’s about all you can expect from him and we’re getting it.
"It was like everything was slow motion," Wise said. "I stuck my hand out so slowly and was able to make the catch."
by ChicagoPete on Jul 27, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last 28 days.
.333 / .388 / .467 / .855.
Thanks, Mark.
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by ballyb on Jul 27, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah he's been improving
seems way early to make judgements. He OBP was decent in minors.
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think anyone is saying Getz is worthless, dfa him, trade him, or whatever
I think what people are saying is that he’s a light hitting good to average defensive 2B that given some more at bats could be a 290/350/400 guy as soon as next year.
For the league min, that’s good production. But a .324 OBP with no pop this year is not exactly part of the solution as far as the offense is concerned.
That said, the Sox have nobody else, so he should be trotted out there everyday until the season ends.
The real problem IMO though is Ramirez’ power outage. He is just not hitting for power like the lineup needs.
by madvillian on Jul 27, 2009 10:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Alexei's production is down a little bit but that's down the list on things I'd point to
if you really want to name one problem it’s that we’ve had two black holes of suck in the outfield. As such, it’s on Q — the Sox don’t need Q!-like .900 OPS, but is .250/.350/.450 too much to ask? At the very least that would keep the offense right around average — from there you gotta hope the pitching remains the balls down the stretch.
by CWSKeith on Jul 27, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you don't factor in his first month
Alexei has done pretty well. There is plenty of power throughout the rest of this lineup, he doesn’t need to hit 30 homeruns for this team to be successful.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 27, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My major fear in re: to Q
Is if this continues that he dig himself deeper mentally in a hole. His intensity has positives and negatives. I can just see his underperforming driving him nuts right now.
by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2009 10:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but this is how he hurts himself.
He was just swatting at the ball yesterday…looked terrible.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 27, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
isn't it amazing how players who are hitting look good and players who aren't don't?
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by larry on Jul 27, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is swinging like I swing a golf club...all arms and shoulders.
no legs. pop ups and grounders to second. I just don’t want to see him get hurt.
He is one of those players that needs one or two games to get his mind into it and then he should rebound. Buy my concern is he is still favoring that foot too much.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 27, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hogwash.
It has nothing to do with his foot. Never did.
by dantesox on Jul 27, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's always swung like that.
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by colintj on Jul 27, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beckham always looks good
he’s got that GOOD FACE
by Hawk is God on Jul 27, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Say, did you ever see his hair?
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."
— Leo Durocher
by Chiburb on Jul 27, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll come around.
Soon.
Thanks, Mark.
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by ballyb on Jul 27, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know mad said 82-85, I say 87-88 wins
The Detroit series was tough and the bullpen is in a collective slump costing a few games, but the team has continued slow steady improvement.
In the last 30 days every regular except Q has OPSd over .800.
The starting pitching over the same time remained very good.
Things will get dicey, but they will continue to inch along slowly.
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2009 10:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
87 means taking 36 of the last 63
or winning at .571 clip… that is a tall order.
Though that number is somewhat arbitrary… 87 would almost certainly win this division… but may be out of reach… all I want is to be within 2 or 3 heading into those final 9 games (6 against DET). That way they at least control their destiny. Also even with the weaker schedule, I am assuming here Minn is going to be falling off the pace. Their starting pitching has completely crapped out.
by CatBrains on Jul 27, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bottom line, we can't scuff against
NYY & Boston
15 games against those 2. They’ve beaten the hell out of us the last several years. 8-7, 7-8 or better would go a long way to success.
I’ll take my chances with the other games.
Thanks, Mark.
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by ballyb on Jul 27, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not that worried.
I think this team has the talent to pull it off. They played the Rays tough – and were one Bobby brain fart away from a sweep.
They could have easily taken three of four from DET.
Also – no matter what happens – I’m pretty sure the division will still be there for the taking heading into the final nine.
I’m not even worried about the dome.
Why the hell am I so relaxed?
by 67WMAQ on Jul 27, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
SELL!!!
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."
— Leo Durocher
by Chiburb on Jul 27, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So are you in the lockup period?
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."
— Leo Durocher
by Chiburb on Jul 27, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because as I said the team is slowly but surely improving.
Its kind of subtle but very real. Since the team’s low point on June 12th they are 9 games over with a +37 run differential.
Over that same period Detroit is even with +5 run diff.
Minnesota is also even with +2 run diff.
The White Sox and Detroit could really bury the Twins over the next 2 weeks and take away that schedule advantage.
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Twinkies are soon to get OCab and Cowley is pissed.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 27, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cowley is pissed
but his wife can continue the affair with the colombian over a shorter distance
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There were 3 big voids in the lineup
before Beckham got called up. 3B, 2B and CF were producing sub-replacement level, and now they’re getting league average to plus production from all 3 positions.
This is an entirely different offense than what they were running out there in April and May.
"It was like everything was slow motion," Wise said. "I stuck my hand out so slowly and was able to make the catch."
by ChicagoPete on Jul 27, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
league average to plus?
whoa whoa whoa. Getz is not league average. neither is Pods.
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by colintj on Jul 27, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How close is Pods?
Or Getz since he got healthy? They aren’t blackholes in any case. Definitely better than seeing Jerry Owens and Brent Lillibridge out there or Brian Anderson.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 27, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
then Im a little confused
what’s league avg at their positions?
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
more so for Pods.
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pods was tied for first at LF in AVG, but floated around the middle in all the other stats (batting, AL)
Dunno why his fielding stats aren’t there.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 27, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That link doesn't open in a new window, btw. My bad.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 27, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No problem I saw.
I guess it depends on a person’s avg. His VORP is positive and he’s put up a 1.2 WAR to this point. Way the hell better than I ever thought possible.
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Getz has also clawed to a .2 WAR
but most of it is positional. The greater point avg or not is the Sox rid themselves of the great suck fest prior to the lineup changes.
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
.339 wOBA plus average corner OF D
is not league average. over 600 PA/150 IP: 0 BRAA + 0 FRAA + 20 REPLEV – 7.5 POS ADJ = 1.25 WAR. average is ~ 2.
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by colintj on Jul 27, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but now he's in CF, baby!
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by larry on Jul 27, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to mention
the production we’ve had over the last month/whatever ≠ production going forward.
and i watched Getz’s ABs last night. he doesn’t look any different to me. .270/.320/.370 is about what he’s got.
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by colintj on Jul 27, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe. Still plenty of time to sort out.
I can’t speak for a game. Overall Getz seems to be getting better.
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm still unsure on his defense
we can probably all agree that his true talent is -5<x<5 over 150 games, though that doesn’t clarify all that much. what i see when i watch his PAs is still the same: problems dealing with the inside corner, not taking enough walks, not hitting the ball hard. that last 28 days line is almost all BABIP and a tick more power.
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by colintj on Jul 27, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if Pods and Getz are 1 WAR players over the course of the season, that's a victory
and it’s all I’m asking for.
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by colintj on Jul 27, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought losing that Saturday’s game meant we will be swept for all four. Nice to see us bring the O right away on Sunday and get a win.
I am pumped about tonight’s game. The first sox away game that I am attending, and I couldn’t have picked the better place to do this. I want to see how shitty this place is before they tear it down. Actually saw that dome this morning — not gonna lie, got a bit of adrenaline rush.
I get really annoyed when I see opposing fans in our stadiums, being on the receiving end will be interesting. Go SOX!
Lupe, release the balloons!
by LT_sox_fan on Jul 27, 2009 11:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"being on the receiving end will be interesting"
just what are you planning up there?
Sorry, I had to
Formerly Crede's Crew
by Q!'s Qrew on Jul 27, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bring home a winner, LT!
And don’t make direct eye contact with Punto!
If Cowley tweets a fucking word, I am on the next flight to rip his balls off with my bare hands.
Regards!
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 12:20 PM PDT
by homesickalien on Jul 27, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went to the Metrodome when I was young, like 12 or 13
Don’t remember much except how shitty it was to attend a game played inside.
by madvillian on Jul 27, 2009 11:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i go to school up there
so me and my buddies would get the cheapseats way the fuck up in left field. It is impossible from up their to judge where any ball is going. That place is a dump and the only thing I’ll miss is the six dollar seats on wednesday nights.
by soxshenanigans on Jul 27, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
really cool city in the Summer though
great underground hip hop scene
by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
couldn't agree more
with you more on the hip hop scene. it’s great. i’ve gone to soundset the past two years, and I’ve seen brother ali, doomtree and atmosphere on separate occasions. Very nice city, still hate the team and the millions of texts i get every time they beat us.
by soxshenanigans on Jul 27, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
our friend RJ has managed to anger another SBN site
http://www.crawfishboxes.com/2009/7/27/964291/an-open-letter-to-rj-anderson
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Jul 27, 2009 11:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you should check out the BTF thread on true talent
tango, as is his style, injects some much needed perspective about 3/4 the way through
If the Astros “bad” players makes plays to win games the thing to say isn’t “OMG small sample size”, but say “I don’t believe what just happened”, and move on.
Games aren’t played on “true talent” along, that’s what makes it fun.
by madvillian on Jul 27, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder why they dislike that article
must be they’re just too dense to see his real point: scott podsednik is bad at baseball.
by Trooper on Jul 27, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem here
is that RJ is a douche. I like Kalkman a lot better than him because Kalkman at least admits that his way of seeing the game isn’t the only way, there are a lot of things stats haven’t quantified yet, but mostly he isn’t a douche anymore. Anderson is going to have to learn to write and not rely on a couple of shoddy stats or he’ll get called out by people who know anything about their own team, like has happened.
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 27, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just got off the phone with my mom, big sox fan, except she told me that clayton richards had a good outing last night
I didn’t have the will to correct her.
Took 3 years to find out about disco demolition night.
by Jackkoho on Jul 27, 2009 11:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Enabler.
;)
If Cowley tweets a fucking word, I am on the next flight to rip his balls off with my bare hands.
Regards!
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 12:20 PM PDT
by homesickalien on Jul 27, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
let the chicagoan who has never said "jewels" or "soldiers field" cast the first stone....
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Jul 27, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we should keep him on a short leash
2 bad outings, put him in the bullpen
Carlos Guillen, the Latino Punto
by The_Fan on Jul 27, 2009 11:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just read in Baseball Prospectus that Arizona is so
impressed with Brandon Allen they already have him penciled in their 2010 starting lineup. Hmm.
by dantesox on Jul 27, 2009 11:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's OPSing 1.249 in 54 at-bats, including 7 homers.
I’m guessing pretty hitter-friendly environments, nevertheless….impressiive run.
by dantesox on Jul 27, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BuehrleMan
I may need a favor from you.
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Jul 27, 2009 12:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
weed again?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 27, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BSS please
ecstasy or bust
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Jul 27, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What, they don't have any quality meth labs in Champaign?
Better transfer to Eastern.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 27, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
So you can hang out at the underage tweener club in Naperville and wave glow sticks in front of your face in between making out with your arm?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 27, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
of course
zero gravity is the shit
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Jul 27, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They tried to open a Zero Gravity in Rockford
Didn’t last that long. Then they changed it to an adult club, which was quickly closed after a fight that started in the club spread out into the parking lot and people started shooting at each other. The big problem was that the place was connected to a major street (East State Street).. ooppsss
by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zip up your dress?
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."
— Leo Durocher
by Chiburb on Jul 27, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
You're not going to ask him to deliver a calf, are you?
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."
— Leo Durocher
by Chiburb on Jul 27, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
like i would pass that fun off to anyone
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Jul 27, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, I rec'd you twice in a row before I realized they were both yours.
by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 27, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's ok. 1 rec each won't turn 'em green anyway.
It’s the thought that counts.
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."
— Leo Durocher
by Chiburb on Jul 27, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
awesome
can you shoot me an e-mail?
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Jul 27, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He needs a case of glow sticks too.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 27, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and some pacifiers
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Jul 27, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
new arm of the week: carlos torres
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/7/27/964324/new-arms-of-the-week-five-righties
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
by larry on Jul 27, 2009 12:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
In case you didn't notice
the CWS have completely rejiggered this offense on the fly this season. On April 16th, this was the starting lineup that Ozzie threw up against the wall:
- Lillibridge 2B
- Fields 3B
- Q LF
- Thome DH
- JD RF
- PK 1B
- AJ C
- Ramirez SS
- Anderson CF
As PR might say, “Ugh”
======
Here’s the OPS for last night’s starting lineup:
- .769
- .734
- .901
- .891
- .845
- .794
- .741
- .689
- .815 (and rising fast)
It’s hard to wash the taste of that putrid mess of the first few months out of your month, but this is a completely different offense they’re running out there now. If this bullpen gets squared away we can go on a serious roll here folks. This team is easily capable of playing at a .600 clip the rest of the way if they stay healthy.
"It was like everything was slow motion," Wise said. "I stuck my hand out so slowly and was able to make the catch."
by ChicagoPete on Jul 27, 2009 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's the spirit !!!
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."
— Leo Durocher
by Chiburb on Jul 27, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm psyched!
This magically turned into a good team that might be dangerous in the postseason. Nobody will want to face that starting staff in a playoff series.
"It was like everything was slow motion," Wise said. "I stuck my hand out so slowly and was able to make the catch."
by ChicagoPete on Jul 27, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if our bullpen is healthy they will come around
I’m beginning to wonder about Dotel and Jenks though. Dotel not getting his innings and Bobby struggling makes me wonder.
Sox win, cubs lose.....what a wonderful world!
by picktoclick on Jul 27, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not worried about Jenks
Dotel and Linebrink are problems. But the SP has been so good we can probably hide some weakness in the BP. Ozzie is pretty good about juggling the pieces, as long as we’ve got something useful out there they should be ok. Probably not a bad idea having a confident Richard in the bullpen, they could use a shutdown late inning reliever right now. He’s had no trouble with RHBs lately, I don’t think Ozzie will hesitate to use him in high leverage situations regardless of handedness.
"It was like everything was slow motion," Wise said. "I stuck my hand out so slowly and was able to make the catch."
by ChicagoPete on Jul 27, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Monday and Tuesday were shit-tastic, no doubt.
But Bobby was legitimately burned on Saturday. Even if he retired the Rays up and out in order both nights – he probably would have blown the Tigers game anyway.
by 67WMAQ on Jul 27, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know you're good when Yankee fans give you credit
Even after the shitty weekend, I had a couple yankee ppl say to me today…looks like a Yankees-White Sox collision course for the playoffs.
Formerly Crede's Crew
by Q!'s Qrew on Jul 27, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
young jedi
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
.600 = 89 wins
That should get them the division.
BP PECOTA has them winning the division with 85, while BP ELO has the Tigers doing the same, again with 85, BP unadjusted says Detroit with 84. coolstandings, meanwhile, says Detroit, with 86.
So 89 it is (starting in the bandbox tonight)!
by EddyStanky'sGhost on Jul 27, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm buying 89...after all, it was the one realistic # in the Taco Bell All-Star game comercial...
It’s all about the Roosevelt’s baby… 79-89-99!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXngi6tUma0
Formerly Crede's Crew
by Q!'s Qrew on Jul 27, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't say 89. I predicted 89 at the start of the season
and China haircutted it by 3 games because of “homerism”.
We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 27, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"serious roll"
Haven’t had one of those in a long, long, long time.
Hope you are right.
Thanks, Mark.
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by ballyb on Jul 27, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
let's start the game
i’m too productive today
¡signature!
by billyok on Jul 27, 2009 2:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Clayton Richard/Bartolo Colon
Richard isn’t pitching like he wants out of the rotation and Colon isn’t pitching like he should be. I say give Poreda a start and see how he does.
Phil Burns
by The Mighty Philster on Jul 27, 2009 3:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Should we get Torres back in on this while we're at it?
Formerly Crede's Crew
by Q!'s Qrew on Jul 27, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
7 man rotation!
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 27, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you believe this is another WCIU game tonight
Thats 3 in the last 6 games, two of those were nationally televised. UGH!! I need me some Comcast!
Oz+Coop+Hawk= baseball trinity
by OznCoop on Jul 27, 2009 3:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And here I was looking forward to a game that wasn't broadcasted from a cell phone.
ESPN to WCIU? Rough.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 27, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, another radio night for me
Oz+Coop+Hawk= baseball trinity
by OznCoop on Jul 27, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is WCIU really that bad for you guys?
I’ve rarely had a problem with the HD feed, CSN has just as many problems.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 27, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we don't get it
so quality isn’t important when you can’t see it
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Jul 27, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get the station here in Rockford
SuCkS!
Oz+Coop+Hawk= baseball trinity
by OznCoop on Jul 27, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude it sucks
Like I said, there was a repeater in Rockford that covered the West Side. Now with digital cable we don’t get it at all.
by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coverage Map
Oz+Coop+Hawk= baseball trinity
by OznCoop on Jul 27, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He complains about it nearly every game, so something must be wrong.
So, Buehrle pitches a perfect game. And Josh Fields hits a grand slam. And Dewayne Wise makes an unreal play to save said perfect game. And the Sox climb into first for the first time since May 1. And this all supposedly happens on on hsa's birthday.
There is no freakin’ way this actually happened right? hsa, prepare to wake up in 3 … 2 … 1 …
by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 23, 2009 2:22 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
by homesickalien on Jul 27, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As he should
Cannot tell you how disappointing it is, to be sitting at your desk like I am, thinking about how awesome it is going to be when you get home and are able to sit down at the TV. Pop open a hop heavy IPA and watch the Sox.
Then you realize that you can’t, and to top it off you have to deal with Farmer and DJ
by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it shown anywhere around you? Sports bar or whatever?
by Grinder in Training on Jul 27, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know for a fact that we get wciu games nowhere in champaign
i spent the last one in a bar watching it on a buddy’s iphone
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Jul 27, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thinking about rolling out to a bar
I usually don’t on weeknights, but I may make an exeception.
I’ve been working since 7:30 today, had a 8:45 appt
by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet Buffalo Wild Wings will be showing it
by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never mind
WCIU is blacked out, even with the packaged you can’t get the game
by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that really does suck
I’m sure if you look hard enough there is a stream somewhere, just need TVants or a similar program.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 27, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well....I do have a vague sense of what it's like to not have games broadcast. Ever. Nor radio.
So, Buehrle pitches a perfect game. And Josh Fields hits a grand slam. And Dewayne Wise makes an unreal play to save said perfect game. And the Sox climb into first for the first time since May 1. And this all supposedly happens on on hsa's birthday.
There is no freakin’ way this actually happened right? hsa, prepare to wake up in 3 … 2 … 1 …
by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 23, 2009 2:22 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
by homesickalien on Jul 27, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boers and Bernstein say
“We be streaming at 670 the Score”
by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I missing something?
What exactly do the Jays gain by not lowering demands and trading Roy before the All Star break? This has Santana situation written all over it, except the Jays will not compete next year. His value decreases as more time passes, not the other way around.
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2009 3:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard this morning on the score
that Clayton Richard is now believed to be the CENTERPIECE in any deal for Halladay! With Poreda penciled in as well.
Oz+Coop+Hawk= baseball trinity
by OznCoop on Jul 27, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's Big Game Clayton for you.
That’d be the equivilant of Kyle Orton playing like an average quarterback getting us Jay Cutler.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 27, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Jays think they're trading Jesus and want the Holy Trinity in return.
But since the Phillies aren’t going to go all out for him, we should be able to get the Doc after this season for a much cheaper price – should we want him.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 27, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want him NOW not then
Oz+Coop+Hawk= baseball trinity
by OznCoop on Jul 27, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poreda and Richard is a good starting point as an offer
Richard’s floor looks like a 5th starter and his celing is probably an average 3rd starter. Same with Poreda, although maybe with a better ceiling and worse floor. Both lefties, both guys under arb control for awhile.
But I don’t think the Jays will accept that. They want more, way more.
by madvillian on Jul 27, 2009 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I would also think that they would wnat more.
But I’ve also heard that they believe Alxei Ramierez is the best player in the organization. So who knows!
Oz+Coop+Hawk= baseball trinity
by OznCoop on Jul 27, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe they wouldn't even pick up the phone unless Beckham was involved
and you would also be looking at sending Poreda, plus Richard and Flowers.
They want to fleece the Phils…no way they settle for anything else from us.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 27, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only KW was smart enough to put BA in the deal
Twitter: @SouthSideCheat
SouthSideSox on Facebook
by The Cheat on Jul 27, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BA wants some canadian honeys
that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma
by furby2056 on Jul 27, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be like pissing in some pink lemonade and giving it to Riccardi on a hot humid day.
BA could probably score quite well with some Canadian chicks.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 27, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beckham can't be traded.
Right?
Your offense is only as good as your bullpen.
by defensive indifference on Jul 27, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To the person who recommended Funcrusher Plus in the last music thread...
holy christ what an album. I had to drive to and from Milwaukee this morning and damn is that a l33t album. I didn’t think I’d find a rap album that could rival Enter the Wutang (personal choice) but I thinkI may have… Ditto Cuban Linx which I finally got my hands on.
//Hmm… think of something baseball related so you can fit this post in this thread.
Hey everyone, how about Bartolo Colon and his obesity! Hah! Fattie fat fat fat. Fat.
by CWSKeith on Jul 27, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Supreme clientele
is up there in the WUniverse
by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
pods8, alexei6, jd9, pk3, aj2, q7, beckham5, nix4, fields dh. Danks pitching.
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
by larry on Jul 27, 2009 4:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
See!? If Fields can DH, clearly Pods can DH!!!!!!!!
So, Buehrle pitches a perfect game. And Josh Fields hits a grand slam. And Dewayne Wise makes an unreal play to save said perfect game. And the Sox climb into first for the first time since May 1. And this all supposedly happens on on hsa's birthday.
There is no freakin’ way this actually happened right? hsa, prepare to wake up in 3 … 2 … 1 …
by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 23, 2009 2:22 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
by homesickalien on Jul 27, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's fine.
I’m liking the fact he’s not succombing to the Thome hall-of-fame, that means I should be in the lineup no-matter-what aura.
by dantesox on Jul 27, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A real show of confidence.
"I do think that there's a different quality to what used to be Cominskey Field vs. Wrigley," President Obama told Bob Costas during an interview that aired during Tuesday night's MLB All-Star Game.
by tailgater on Jul 27, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you think Fields is actually better against LHP than Thome at this point?
no chance, right?
THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY
by colintj on Jul 27, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would rather see Fields vs. Perkins than Thome vs. Perkins, yes.
by dantesox on Jul 27, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thome can still be extremely valuable to us at some point late in the game.
by dantesox on Jul 27, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
J.P. Ricciardi is an idiot
I understand that any team interested in Halladay receives a list of their best 3 or 4 prospects/young players and “that’s it”.
Toronto has all kinds of trading chips, particularly since they don’t have a chance in their division this year or next (at least).
Guys who won’t be contributing by 2011, Halladay, Scott Rolen, Marco Scutaro, and Vernon Wells (32 years old with 5 years and $98.5 mil left on his contract) should, if this guy had half a brain by Friday. To trade Wells would require Toronto picking up about $50 mil of his future salary (apparently some folks haven’t mastered the sunk cost concept). However, if Ricciardi realized that he needs what he can get back for these guys as much as contending teams need/want them he would be able to basically restock the ball club with 7 or 8 good young players/prospects for that group of four.
But he should have been fired long ago but apparently has that big nose of his so far up ownerships ass…
by Dick Allen's batting helmet on Jul 27, 2009 4:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You weren't riding RAGBRAI, were you?
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
by mjthor on Jul 27, 2009 5:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lol, at least we aren't the mets guys
what a circus.
by madvillian on Jul 27, 2009 5:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We are heatless this eve
37’s baby is about to pop out, according to Cowley, so we need an Unlinebrinkable lead
¡signature!
by billyok on Jul 27, 2009 5:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. Hopefully thorns baby will be a good addition to our pen.
Took 3 years to find out about disco demolition night.
by Jackkoho on Jul 27, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, way to use the player's number, NERD!
Your offense is only as good as your bullpen.
by defensive indifference on Jul 27, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer the term "insider"
¡signature!
by billyok on Jul 27, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More like Thornton picked a really bad time to be insider nine months ago
¡signature!
by billyok on Jul 27, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
the Easy Heat is a double-edged sword
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Jul 27, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wa-pow!
Buehrle Birthday Buehrle!
What more could a girl ask for? Besides a QS and a W….those would be nice too.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 7:45 AM PDT
by homesickalien on Jul 28, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cowley says Thornton won't be around tonight.
We have no lefty in the bullpen! D:
Your offense is only as good as your bullpen.
by defensive indifference on Jul 27, 2009 5:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Damnit. I'm hearing from cowley that thornton isn't available tonight.
by Trooper on Jul 27, 2009 5:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No wai!
Your offense is only as good as your bullpen.
by defensive indifference on Jul 27, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i heard thornton won't be available tonight - can anyone confirm?
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
by larry on Jul 27, 2009 5:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cowley's Twitter won't load!
Your offense is only as good as your bullpen.
by defensive indifference on Jul 27, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cant really confirm
but on the score they were saying thornton’s wife was having a baby, and he is not with the team. Neither is Don Cooper due to some family issue.
by lod773 on Jul 27, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
woosh
Your offense is only as good as your bullpen.
by defensive indifference on Jul 27, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i clearly think he has been suspended.
you know, for constantly complaining about the umps.
it is what it is......
by BuehrleMan on Jul 27, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish Linebrink would have more sex with his wife
¡signature!
by billyok on Jul 27, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hope our guys
are holed up watching tape / eating carrots. None of them are particularly good against Perkins
Thanks, Mark.
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by ballyb on Jul 27, 2009 6:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
whats this about tape and carrots and holes?
sounds like a job for HSA.
by Trooper on Jul 27, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a mind.
I didn’t mean that in a good way.
Thanks, Mark.
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by ballyb on Jul 27, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the score is giving away tickets to buehrle's perfecto
if they said it like that the first time they wouldn’t have leftovers.
by Trooper on Jul 27, 2009 6:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
looks like slowey
it is what it is......
by BuehrleMan on Jul 27, 2009 6:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Subtract 1 1/2"
from that midget.
Thanks, Mark.
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by ballyb on Jul 27, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but he had 10 wins!!!
it is what it is......
by BuehrleMan on Jul 27, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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