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Paul Konerko, White Sox Let One Roll Away

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It was the type of thing that only seems to happen in Minnesota. In an inning that only seemed to last about 5 minutes, the White Sox had 3 errors, a passed ball and allowed one bizarre (though not dome-influenced) hit. One hard-hit ball and something like 6 outs was all the Twins needed to turn a 0-1 deficit into a 2-1 lead. 

Sure, the Sox retook the lead a half-inning later on a Paul Konerko homerun -- He owed us those runs -- and, sure, John Danks gave up the lead again with a 6th inning bomb to Michael Cuddyer. But the Sox inept defense in the second inning tells the story for this game.

The madness started when AJ Pierzynski seemed to take the I'll wait until it hits the backstop approach to catching by allowing a runner to advance on a passed ball. The next batter, Carlos Gomez, who the Sox can't get out, continued to use his voodoo magic, this time breaking his bat in such a way so as to distract the charging Gordon Beckham. It would have been a routine play if not for the proximity of the bat and ball at the time Beckham tried to field the ball, whiffing on both. Then the real fun started. 

Konerko, who earns heaps of praise for his ability to scoop balls in the dirt, developed a (hopefully) momentary case of the yips and let two separate plays that would have ended the inning scoot away from first. The first was ruled an error on Jayson Nix, who got taken out at second base by Gomez. Konerko then appeared to have trouble with a couple of pick-off throws from Danks immediately following the go-ahead run scoring. 

Just to top things off, AJ picked up the Sox third error of the inning by throwing a ball into CF on Alexi Casilla's steal of second, and then proceeded to get into a dugout spat with Alexei Ramirez, whom he thought should have kept the ball on the infield. I'm sure the spat which was captured by cameras and twittered by beat writers will get much of the coverage, but that's just the side effect of a half-inning of defense that wouldn't have been acceptable at the little league level.

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Not that AJ had anyone to blame except himself

But Alexei is a a fucking pussy when it comes to people coming at him at 2nd. Have never seen him deliver the throw and take a hit like Getz does every time. Getting pretty sick of his errant throws and his weak ass shit at 2nd on double plays. AJ was just calling him out for being a LB and justly so.

by Shakey on Jul 27, 2009 10:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I haven’t seen any replays, but I can only image. Alexei is a pussy, not only at 2nd base, but even when he is batting and the pitch in an inch inside. He is doing everything he can to get out of the way. On double plays, when Alexei takes a throw from the 2nd baseman, he is practically in the outfield grass when he catches the ball. I know I exaggerated on the last one, but he is no where in the vicinity of the 2nd base bag when he catches the ball.

"Stay thirsty my friends."

by bigz38fan on Jul 28, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

coming from the guy with a cubs garden gnome as his avatar

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Jul 28, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the guy who defected from Cuba is a pussy

I don’t want to know what you think about the rest of our team. Anyone who can thrive under his circumstances is probably a bit more of a man than the guy who is complaining about him without even seeing the replay.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 28, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Something also tells me that Big Z's fan here doesn't often position himself in such a way that he has 90-mph baseballs flying within a foot of his face either.

Buehrle Birthday Buehrle!
What more could a girl ask for? Besides a QS and a W….those would be nice too.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 7:45 AM PDT

by homesickalien on Jul 28, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the may take his land, but they'll never take his FREEDOM.

he needs to hit the curls a little more though…he has stringly larry (or so I hear) arms.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 28, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This isn't the guy who rowed a door from Cuba to Miami

this is a guy who walked out his hotel room. Defecting ain’t what it used to be. All I’m saying is that he needs to drop down and give people a reason to get the F outta the way when they are coming in for the takeout slide. Bean someone in the face, then you won’t to come flying across the bag.

by Shakey on Jul 28, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're actually advocating che jacks or throws a ball at someone's face?

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Jul 28, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is what you are taught as a kid when turning the DP.

Throw at their heads and make them duck. Little League (in MY day) stuff.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Little league the Billy Martin way

Afterwards the coaches gave the kids juice boxes and scotch.

by 67WMAQ on Jul 28, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i thought in your day it was still called "rounders"

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jul 28, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In my day

we played with mastadon testicles. And we used one as a ball, a tusk for a bat.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No cup, either.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Defecting ain't what it used to be"

Awesome

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 28, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he was sort of referencing Lebowski in a way there...or just stealing the Coens' writing...probably the latter, yeah.

Buehrle Birthday Buehrle!
What more could a girl ask for? Besides a QS and a W….those would be nice too.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 7:45 AM PDT

by homesickalien on Jul 28, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just thinking that....WTF!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 28, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Communism ain't what it used to be.

This isn’t some stray pilot in a MiG. This is billions of dollars in Soviet hardware. They’re gonna want it back.

by 67WMAQ on Jul 28, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This isn't a guy who built the fucking railroads here....

Buehrle Birthday Buehrle!
What more could a girl ask for? Besides a QS and a W….those would be nice too.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 7:45 AM PDT

by homesickalien on Jul 28, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two quotable movies

Big Lebowski and The Hunt for Red October.

by 67WMAQ on Jul 28, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Other quotable movies include Animal House and Anchorman.

Also – money can be exchanged for goods and services.

by 67WMAQ on Jul 28, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

money, which is just as good as cash

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 28, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

correction

defecating ain’t what it used to be

/WU’d
/I tease cuz I love’d

by jeeves on Jul 28, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whoa shit, everybody is coming out of the woodwork

you in westwood? or no since it’s summer?

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jul 28, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not yet

I was in Japan for an engineering program for 6ish weeks and am in Chicago until Friday. Then it’s back to LA and hopefully back to SSS for the a bit over the remainder of the summer.

by jeeves on Jul 28, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He still lived in Cuba for 25 years.

Not an easy life, even for a pro baseball player.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 28, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but

People I know that have lived a “hard life”, aren’t people you really want to mess with. They don’t back down from a challenge/fight.

"Stay thirsty my friends."

by bigz38fan on Jul 28, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When has Alexei backed down from a fight?

Not to mention, being a bigger man and not getting in a fight doesn’t mean you’re a pussy.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 28, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since he isn't allowed to carry his switchblade onto the field.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Jul 28, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When you're a Jet you're a Jet all the way...

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Be backs down everytime someone slides into 2nd base or when a pitcher throws a ball on the inside corner of the plate

When has he stood in there like a man? I’m really surprised he hasn’t gone up to the plate or taken the field wearing armor. Are his bones more fragile than anybody else’s bones?

"Stay thirsty my friends."

by bigz38fan on Jul 28, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you join this site just so you could inform the community of what a big pussy we've got at SS?

We could probably spend a nice amount of time talking about Zambrano’s emotional shortcomings as well…

Buehrle Birthday Buehrle!
What more could a girl ask for? Besides a QS and a W….those would be nice too.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 7:45 AM PDT

by homesickalien on Jul 28, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quoting yourself in your sig. Nice.

So PR and HSA find no one else’s wit elevated above their own. At least H2 has a dead guy’s quote in her sig.

Women (or at least 2/3 of them): Dig. ME.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yawn.

Buehrle Birthday Buehrle!
What more could a girl ask for? Besides a QS and a W….those would be nice too.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 7:45 AM PDT

by homesickalien on Jul 28, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not surprised, having erred quite frequently in the past

in my assessment of the feminine type. Just trying to keep the other 98% of the site abreast of what awaits them.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't get too attached to her signature

She’ll just go and change it on you as soon as you do

¡signature!

by billyok on Jul 28, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am attached to nothing.

Pure entropy.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go piss on someone else's parade.

Buehrle Birthday Buehrle!
What more could a girl ask for? Besides a QS and a W….those would be nice too.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 7:45 AM PDT

by homesickalien on Jul 28, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aw, don't get mad.

I quoted myself in my sig once and was ragged for it. You’re no different.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

less penis.

or more, if its a work night.

by Trooper on Jul 28, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The draw of the US isn't what it used to be

I will ignore you wanting Alexi to throw a hard ball directly into the face of another player

by 815Sox on Jul 28, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you played SS or 2B?

Don’t take this personally. It’s what they are taught to do. Fer Chrissakes, have I gotten on the PETA site by mistake?

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if they're taught to do it, why is no one actually able to bean someone in the face?

White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry

by larry on Jul 28, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the same coaches teach the base runner to duck!

whoooooosh

Sox win, cubs lose.....what a wonderful world!

by picktoclick on Jul 28, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Surprisingly when you see someone

winding up to throw the ball at you . . . you duck out of the way.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 28, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can we split your hairs?

You as a former 2B know you’re not taught to lead them into the ground but to throw at the first baseman. If the player gets in the way, the player gets in the way.

Fer Chrissakes, the goal is to get the guy out of the way. If he is not ducking out of the way you’re doing it wrong.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you guys are the ones splitting hairs.

i think it’s pretty obvious that 815’s point was responding to shakey saying that, literally, alexei should bean a player in the face.

White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry

by larry on Jul 28, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you are asserting you know what 815 "meant",

I will assert that Shakey “meant” to throw one at someone’s forehead in the context of completing the turn. And if 815 took it literally, the explanation hopefully clarified the misconception.

Fer Chrissakes.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, taught from a young age

to throw through the runner.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 28, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You weren't?

I was. And on occasion someone gets beaned. No one gets beaned if they duck. Do some pitchers throw inside to establish that part of the plate? Not enough, perhaps. The baseline is mine when I am throwing. Especially if that guy coming down the line sees me as “lunch” if I don’t get out of the way.

What’s up with you guys?

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I was

agreeing with you . . . I think I was taught that when I was 7 or 8.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 28, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah he's no Ryan Theriot

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 28, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, poor defensive positioning = pussy in my book too.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 28, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good to know you are the

resident expert on player psyche . . . I will make sure I get back with you on some other pressing player issues I was wondering about.

Oh, and I am sure it has nothing to do with this being his first MLB season as a SS and probably not grasping the speed of the game at times, therefore, not positioning himself at the proper double play depth (playing too deep and too far towards the hole . . . or where he would normally be positioned) that allows him to get to 2nd at the right time.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 28, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You'd think 3/4 of a season would be enough time to make proper adjustments

pretty sure they run just as fast in cuba. from the games i’ve watched, he’s afraid of contact.

by Shakey on Jul 28, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And if you have watched games, then you would

know that he has improved on it. It was happening consistently . . . less so now. Old habits are hard to break . . . and yes, Cuba baseball = MLB. They probably hit the ball just as hard too, huh? Must be surprising to you the lack of Cuban stars. And you know what happens when you are running full speed across the bag, get hit and throw the ball at the same time . . . well, obviously not or we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 28, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

never said cuba baseball = mlb

said they run just as fast. making dp’s pretty damn similar in speed. and if they hit the ball not as hard as you claim, then dp’s would be more difficult, thus making alexei more adept at making them.

by Shakey on Jul 28, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLB players

 in general, are bigger, faster, stronger . . . does that really need to be said? The MLB game is faster, period.

And if a ball is hit more slowly, you have more time get to the bag . . . therefore, could play farther from 2B . . . as you move up levels, you need to start ‘cheating’ more and more.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 28, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLB is all about the cheating.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, for those that go to a game

and have not noticed . . . watch where a 2B and SS position themselves in non-DP situations and then look where they are in DP situations. Contrast that to where Alexei is (or at least was) and you will notice why he has to come flying full speed through the 2B bag and make a crappy/lazy throw to first.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 28, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

amazing how the cuban national team

can compete w/our allstars when this mlb game is so much faster. they must win with secret commie powers.

by Shakey on Jul 28, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

all-star

White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry

by larry on Jul 28, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You probably were on the Viciedo

starting at 3B to start the season, huh?

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 28, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope, you see the speed of the game is so much faster over here

that it would have been like when Spaceball One went to plaid. It’s ludicrous speed over here.

by Shakey on Jul 28, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good to see you understand Dr. Freud

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 28, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

in the case of punto

maybe literally. other than that, just to cause them to get the f out the way.

by Shakey on Jul 28, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're an idiot, it has nothing to do with fear

He’s more comfortable moving to the left so he positions himself closer to third. It’s hurt him some times in double play situations but overall probably the best way for him to play the position. The coaches would tell him to move if they felt he needed to be closer to the bag.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 28, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just saying there have been times when he could have got to the bag

stopped, fired a strike and maybe taken some contact, but instead he runs through the bag and lolligags it to first. idiot.

by Shakey on Jul 28, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or maybe he's coming from deep in the hole

and momentum is taking him across the bag. Why would he stop? How does it benefit him to slow down and get hit? What about that would lead to a better throw at first?
The throw being lazy doesn’t have anything to do with him going through the bag instead of standing there like an idiot and being run over. If you want to say he is lolligagging his throws, that’s fine, but it has nothing to do with him being afraid of contact.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 28, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thank you

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 28, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's just like your opinion man.

just saying that if he slowed down to get a better throw off and then take a hit, i’d rather him be doing that. other SS’s do it, i’m sure he can to, its my opinion that he chooses to avoid the hit and doesn’t get enough mustard on the throws because of it. – But then again, opinions are like assholes, everyones got one and they all stink.

by Shakey on Jul 28, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No.. you're just wrong

It’s not an opinion. He plays deep towards third, he has a lot of momentum coming toward the bag because of that. It’s a fact, not my opinion. Go to a game, watch where he sets up, and then think about how fast the game moves. If he stops he’d lose any momentum he has and the throw would be worse, not better, because he’d be changing directions to satisfy your need to see him get ran over to prove his manhood.

Him slowing down and taking a hit might make him more manly, but it sure as hell isn’t going to help him get the ball to first base.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 28, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma

by furby2056 on Jul 28, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh well.

at least we get to see josh testify on letterman in a few minutes.

by Trooper on Jul 27, 2009 10:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Letterman reads SSS

4th inning joke

¡signature!

by billyok on Jul 27, 2009 10:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

shoulda had wise come in on that last one about giving up 1 hit

with some kind of ‘but I really wanted to meet dave’

by Trooper on Jul 27, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

aj should look in the mirror

that’s two games in a row he’s been lazy and not slid over and blocked a ball in the dirt, allowing a runner to advance. Don’t get me wrong, AJ is a good player and an asset to the team, but his passed ball didn’t exactly start thing off on the right foot that inning.

Gordon I thought should have made the play, but whatever. I also thought Kong should caught at least one of Nix/Danks’ throws, but whatever.

Just an ugly inning, thank god this is this last year we have to see this shit happen at the Garbage Bag.

by madvillian on Jul 27, 2009 11:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree about AJ.

Are his knees bothering him? He also seemed to half-ass it to first base on that booted fly to left.

by expatnyc on Jul 28, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the terrordome is to the sox

as a meat grinder is to a penis.

knocked his fucking dick in the dirt! - BuehrleMan

by BoeJouma on Jul 28, 2009 12:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

so tonight whilst golfing

a buddy of mine killed a ball, just demolished it. it prompted an immediate response from me of “THE DAMAGE IS QUITE SEVERE.” then i got a little upset, because of how little its been said around here this year.

moral of the story?

knocked his fucking dick in the dirt! - BuehrleMan

by BoeJouma on Jul 28, 2009 12:58 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

so i just saw the "bad throw from aj"

che is a bitch. that was a damn near perfect throw.

knocked his fucking dick in the dirt! - BuehrleMan

by BoeJouma on Jul 28, 2009 3:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

"Party Like it's 1983" update.

Game 100: July 30, 1983. Sox beat Yankees 5-1 at Comiskey. 53-47. Up 3.5.

Four game winning streak would be snapped the next day – but it was the beginning of the unbeatable August/Sept. run that would propel the team into the playoffs.

F the Metrodome, let’s light this candle.

by 67WMAQ on Jul 28, 2009 6:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

One more week

Keep playing at least .500 through next Wed when we’re done with the Angels, then fatten up on 3 weeks of creampuffs in August.

This past week has been frustrating as hell, they could’ve easily won 8 of 9 against some of the better teams in the league.

"It was like everything was slow motion," Wise said. "I stuck my hand out so slowly and was able to make the catch."

by ChicagoPete on Jul 28, 2009 6:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Waiting for the "roll", Pete.

Pitching is too good to not win 6 – 8 in a row.

Thanks, Mark.

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by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 6:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

patience Grasshopper!

Lord Beckham will carry them to the finish line

"It was like everything was slow motion," Wise said. "I stuck my hand out so slowly and was able to make the catch."

by ChicagoPete on Jul 28, 2009 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he

i'll delete your SSS existence in a second. there is nothing that allows SSS posters, at any one moment, to keep posting, but the mere pleasure of larry.
-larry

by blackoutsox on Jul 28, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

type fail

i'll delete your SSS existence in a second. there is nothing that allows SSS posters, at any one moment, to keep posting, but the mere pleasure of larry.
-larry

by blackoutsox on Jul 28, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Three things to consider

Hitting has cooled off – Big guys in the lineup have been slumping a tad.

I think TCQ will figure it out. If all 9 guys are clicking, this is a pretty good lineup.

The last two months have been a nice “roll.” They played themselves back into contention.

This is the Sox’ first rough patch since early June.

by 67WMAQ on Jul 28, 2009 7:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Hitting has cooled off "

David Price
Jeff Niemann
James Shields
Scott Kazmir
Justin Verlander
Edwin Jackson

Thanks, Mark.

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by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They have run into some really good pitching as of late

But they should have hit Glen Perkins. The offense should be able to get Scott Baker or Liriano.

Saturday’s matchup against the Yankees looks pretty good. Burnett v. Danks

by 67WMAQ on Jul 28, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome (Rollerdome)

stress syndrome.

Thanks, Mark.

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by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sox offense the last 2 year in the Rollerdome.

2008 .248 / .301 / .390 / .692
2007 .252 / .296 / .390 / .686

Not good.

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by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not horrid. Consistent.

How’s the pitching in the H3 Dome? We’ve been lit up like Christmas IIRC.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What YOU"D expect.

I expect better.

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by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes. i've noticed your obsession.

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by larry on Jul 28, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would you "expect" better than the norm?

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and why do we obsess over performance in nine games per season.

fine. they have an advantage. fucking duh, it’s their home park.

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by larry on Jul 28, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obsess is a strong word, Larry.

We’ve won 6 games up there in the last 2 1/2 years. That’s a .273 winning %. That , I would presume, is a statistically significant variance from the Sox / Twins records sans each other.
That’s the reason people are interested in the matchup.

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by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'd presume that it wouldn't be statistically significant.

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by larry on Jul 28, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To each his own.

Thanks, Mark.

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by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that isnt really an opinion though, but ok

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 28, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Figure it out then, Mr. jc2313.

Thanks, Mark.

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by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think we'd just be surprised for that to be a large enough sample size for that variance to be statistically signficant.

could be that there is something to it but you’re not going to get stats to back that up.

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by larry on Jul 28, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would think we generally perform

better than .273 on the road, but I hear you – need a bigger sample to make the stats work with any reliability.

(Boy, and people call ME crotchety. bally is second to no one. bally, I kid.)

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't really take stats to prove the obvious.

The fact is, KW built a team to play to his home park, the Twins park is about as different a park as we can go to.
I’d rather lose 6 out of 9 games there, and have a team built for the 80 games at the Cell, then try to put together a team to play well on the turf.
A slow, power hitting team, that can’t play defense is probably going to have a tough time of it there.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 28, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are the making the assertion

you do the work . . . I can tell you that you will be VERY hard pressed to find data that supports statistical significance with normal confidence levels, i.e. 95%, over 20+ games.

So, essentially, what larry states above . . . I am not saying there isnt something there, just not something stastically significant.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 28, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like I said,

to each his own.

Thanks, Mark.

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by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol.

yup. not like there isn’t an accepted level for statistical significance.

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by larry on Jul 28, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

for me it's p<0.2

clearly

Always bet on black!

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 28, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

statistical significance is whater i say it is to make my argument.

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by larry on Jul 28, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you don't have the physical equipment

dazzle ’em with figures.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

penalized splines my friend...

penalized splines

Always bet on black!

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 28, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

gotta have charts.

ask u-god. without those, he’d still be fucking cattle.

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by larry on Jul 28, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Charts got him to pigs.

Still need to have more than flip charts to score in the majors.

PS Good to see you participating in the banter. Must be a slow day at the office.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i read tufte

like it’s the kama sutra

Always bet on black!

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 28, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he needs charts to tell a cow from a pig he'll NEVER make a good vet.

Why are we always humoring him?

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Jul 28, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He hasn't gotten in to Vet school yet...

so this is theoretical for now. Just because you like poon doesn’t mean you’ll be a gynecologist.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he likes pig and cows in the way I like poon...

He should just become a farmer with no neighbors. Why even go to school?

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Jul 28, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Corn is expensive.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Converting it to centimeters and mumbling centimeters

Gets you in the door, even if it merely delays the crushing disappointment

¡signature!

by billyok on Jul 28, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Popped out of the womb that way.

Thanks, Mark.

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by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh.

Well, you got me there. Nature is a beeyatch. Nice.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kazmir is not good but otherwise good point

i'll delete your SSS existence in a second. there is nothing that allows SSS posters, at any one moment, to keep posting, but the mere pleasure of larry.
-larry

by blackoutsox on Jul 28, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Could easily have won",

yet didn’t. Difference between good teams is small. Have to execute. They have not.

And why would we NOT keep playing .500 this week? We have been all year. Thank Christ we are now not tempted to trade for Doc Halladay.

This year is different than last in that we are not beating the Central to death. We have owned our division most years. 23-23 this year. How perfect is that?

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get off the ledge WU.

Stop being such a pessimist. Get on the train to the playoffs…you’re starting to sound like Jimmy Piersal.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 28, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grumpy old man. It is what it is.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Jul 28, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, we can't have rational differings of opinion.

It IS China! And you are all Chinese! Well, I am Yang Zili:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/14/world/asia/14beijing.html

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Being rational and a downer is so so 2008

Obama has been elected and he is going to make everything okay, including the Sox. We got a shot at this thing….seriously. Our starting pitching is strong, we have the hitting that can get hot and become very dangerous and the pen is still solid – just hit a hurdle the last two weeks.

Are we a well oiled machine like the Dodgers? No….but we just have to plug away at the division and hope the bats get hot at the right time.

So who the hell are we going to sell? There isn’t much of value on this club in terms of contract/age/talent….ride it out and stay positive.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 28, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was a "sell" guy a month ago and haven't changed as of late.

Where I changed was from pre-season thinking that we’d have 89 wins and win the division. We don’t have the hitting or defense, and we are having some difficulty with the pen. We’ve got a shot at the division (the “top” 3 teams are 4-6 over the last 10 games – scintillating stuff) but it’s hard to get enthused about .500 ball.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

do you remember '07?

hell, you probably remember the alamo, you OPOS.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 28, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is not. We're competing. And it's still baseball. It's on for a portion of the year and when it's not, all we do is sit around and wait for it to come back.

Get enthused because you can.

Buehrle Birthday Buehrle!
What more could a girl ask for? Besides a QS and a W….those would be nice too.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 7:45 AM PDT

by homesickalien on Jul 28, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WU didn't take his meds this morning.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 28, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a buy guy now.

Lemons and Lemonade.

Thanks, Mark.

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by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel where you are coming from

Sure it would be nice to win the division, but they are not going far in the playoffs. I know, I know… everyone has a shot when they make it.. look at the Cards blah blah blah

by 815Sox on Jul 28, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BUT, again...why sell?

What the hell are we getting in return for anyone that we would look at possibly trading in this market?

Not much….

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 28, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Life is short

As long as we have a chance to compete, I’m fine with going for it. With the potential of our pitching, and are now not awful line up I don’t know why you wouldn’t think they have a chance if they got there. Big Game Clayton alone should win us at least two games in any playoff series.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 28, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just happy that we have a team that I enjoy watching again

2007, ’nuff said.

But I did NOT like last year’s team, and I didn’t like watching them or even discussing them. I couldn’t stand Cabrera from the get go, and then all that BS with Swisher and Javy. Even though the won the division, that team didn’t do much for me.

I’m excited that we’ve got a good young core of Beckham, Quentin, Ramirez, Danks and Floyd and some decent prospects in the minors like Flowers. I mean, Lord Beckham, c’mon! The fact that they have a good shot at the division this year is gravy.

"It was like everything was slow motion," Wise said. "I stuck my hand out so slowly and was able to make the catch."

by ChicagoPete on Jul 28, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would agree with being excited about the kids

from last year and this year – and NEXT year, too. KW has done a good job of stringing together another competitive season to get us to a better year in 2010. And we’re lucky everyone sucks in our division. And I’ve said that I’d sell if we could get a good return. If not, no reason to sell. With no CF’s or RP’s to be had, I’ll wait for Danks/Mitchell in 2011 or 2011 and see what we can shake out of Poreda, i.e. and our high priced pen.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There isn't much to be had, hasn't Dye been a goner since 07?

I’m content with them battling it out in a weak division until Kenny is in a position to make some wholesale changes (ie a lineup without Paulie, Thome, maybe AJ).

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 28, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you're gonna make a deal - don't rent. Get a guy who can contribute to a winning team for a couple of years.

You’ve got a solid core that just happens to be working out their growing pains in a pennant race.

Beckham is a rookie who never played 3B. Getz is a rookie. Alexei, lest we forget, is in his second year of playing big league ball.

Don’t sell, because KW isn’t going to get a whole lot back for old guys nearing the end of expensive contracts.

Plus – if they sell – the media is going to rip the team apart – and attendance is going to fall right through the floor.

It’s all about the asses in the seats. No bucks, no Buck Rogers.

by 67WMAQ on Jul 28, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

has kenny ever made a mid season sell deal that amounted to anything?

I can’t recall any, just small deals. The biggest one would be Freddy, but that was pretty early on and a buy deal.

if he’s no good at it, don’t need him wasting the small chance at something. (like how the bears giving up the first round picks for cutler is fine, because angelo makes shitty first round picks anyways).

by Trooper on Jul 28, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We don't win 163 without GS.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was a buy move too (I hope).

The only sell moves I can think of are iguchi and mack, but those were just salary dumps.

by Trooper on Jul 28, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"half-inning of defense that wouldn't have been acceptable at the little league level."

Bravo, Cheat.

Thanks, Mark.

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by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 6:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Take that Punto!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 28, 2009 7:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The dome is bad enough.

“Upgrading” to playing outdoors in Minnesota in March / April / early May / maybe October.

Thanks, Mark.

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by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah

That’s the best treatment for someone whose parents were eaten by a bear. Kick him outside. Where the bears are!

"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka

by EricEmpire on Jul 28, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am glad I went to that game for the experience, but would not like to repeat it again. Fans were OK, kind of friendly, at least where I was sitting. When PK homered that was awesome, me and my friend went kind of crazy, and it was nice seeing JD and Paulie round the bases right in front of us (we were right behind the Twins dugout). Some people got pissed with our noise making, but whatever, after that homer the place got really quiet.

AJ was talking a lot in the dugout, I mean a lot. Every time I would look over he is venting.

And then when Cuddyer stepped up in the 6th, you could kind of feel it that it will be gone. And gone it was…

Lupe, release the balloons!

by LT_sox_fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You should have kamikazed Gomez..

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 28, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i can't select for rookies in fangraphs to rank WAR

but lord beckham is #2 in AL VORP rankings…

Always bet on black!

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 28, 2009 10:06 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't it AJ who said

That they go into the metrodome thinking they are going to lose and they need to break that habit?

That could be why he was going nuts, or the fact that he thinks he is a professional wrestler. Actually its pretty much a combo of the two

by 815Sox on Jul 28, 2009 10:13 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

It's sensation overload for him

The fans still boo him like he’s Clubber Lang, big series, the littlest miscue just set him off. Frustration happens, only thing they can do is just come out tonight and not make the same mistakes.

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by Ozzie Montana on Jul 28, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love AJ, and our team is way too nice.

Last year Tampa beat up the Yankees in ST (a hard slide was the catalyst) and it seemed to set the tone for the year. Maybe we need to get mad, or at least get out of the Eeyore-type mentality when things go wrong. Which is why I love AJ.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't get me wrong

I think AJ is awesome and I like his attitude. Totally agree.

by 815Sox on Jul 28, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's all well and good when you're a young and talented team on the rise that no one takes seriously

“Us against the world” doesn’t make much sense for this team. I like the balance this team has between the older vets, AJ, Ozzie, and the younger guys.

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by Ozzie Montana on Jul 28, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Balanced" = .500.

We don’t need “balance”. We need someone “unbalanced”.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nick Swisher was unbalanced

The rah-rah, light a fire under their asses stuff is overrated IMO. Teams that police themselves and know when to air grievances perform better than a team that’s constantly on edge.

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by Ozzie Montana on Jul 28, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

AND THEY WON!

Seriously, we’ve talked about chemistry ad nauseum. Warring teams win just as “We are Family” teams do. If, however, the team is not playing tough then someone needs to call it. Leading by example is one way, verbal chastising is another.

And have we not made fun of the “tip your cap in the Dome” stuff for a reason? Perhaps there is a feeling of defeat in the air at the Dome for our guys. And maybe AJ does have the most to gain/lose by the Sox performance, since he is a hated man there.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am actually really excited for Target Field

Will be making a trip up there for sure.. I really like Minnesota, especially the Twin Cities

by 815Sox on Jul 28, 2009 10:37 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

INFIDEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BURN HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chill out I will only go when they play the sox

Last time I was up in Minnesota my mom and I gave the bird to the terrordome

by 815Sox on Jul 28, 2009 10:48 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

was it this "big bird" that was referenced earlier?

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
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by U-God on Jul 28, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

However,

I want better defense.

These losses with 2 / 3 errors are psychologically very, very difficult on old fucks.

Thanks, Mark.

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by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 10:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep...can't do that...even in the AL Central...and expect to win.

On another note, I love watching Beckham hit as much as Hawk loves the Aflac duck, but man, did Nathan school him on his last at bat or what?

"I do think that there's a different quality to what used to be Cominskey Field vs. Wrigley," President Obama told Bob Costas during an interview that aired during Tuesday night's MLB All-Star Game.

by tailgater on Jul 28, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When he came up to bat, I said, "And now Beckham gets to face a real major league closer...."

Yeah, he was owned. Fucking backwards K to end the game….ouch.

Buehrle Birthday Buehrle!
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Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 7:45 AM PDT

by homesickalien on Jul 28, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fwiw, fangraphs has beckham +4 with the bat but -4.6 with the glove

pretty much confirms his defense hasn’t really been passable, more like bad. .6WAR

For comparison crede is at 2.2, in many more games though.

by madvillian on Jul 28, 2009 11:01 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Eff those numbers (I got eyez! :P)!! For a guy adjusting to not only the majors, but also a new position (SS to 3B is not an easy transition), he's doing pretty damn good, imo.

Buehrle Birthday Buehrle!
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Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 7:45 AM PDT

by homesickalien on Jul 28, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The -4.6 doesn't mean much

in 50 games. And I agree with your sentiments.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 28, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope, not much at all.... I almost wrote "sss," but thought it was implied.

Buehrle Birthday Buehrle!
What more could a girl ask for? Besides a QS and a W….those would be nice too.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 7:45 AM PDT

by homesickalien on Jul 28, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you guys confuse facts with value judgements too often

I think Beckham is fucking awesome, probably one of the top 50 players in total value in all of baseball.

But the facts are his hitting has been great and his defense not so great.

by madvillian on Jul 28, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who's confused? I'm just saying that statistics are pretty lost on his defense at this point because 1. he's played in less than 50 games, and 2. given the circumstances (which stats do not cover), he's not doing all that badly for a kid who was a

college SS last year.

Had nothing to do with your opinion of his defense (although you did use the word “bad”), but rather you presenting his numbers as though that actually “confirmed” something about his performance….

So “fwiw” = just about nothing.

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Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 7:45 AM PDT

by homesickalien on Jul 28, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Edgar Martinez was an All-Star.

I’m just sayin’…

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seattle.

I’m just sayin’….

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Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 7:45 AM PDT

by homesickalien on Jul 28, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DH.

Pick Frank if you want. I picked a pure DH.

You don’t like the fresh legs…?

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't Edgar win the DH of the last 20 years

or whatever the random voting crap ESPN has going on these days. Thought I saw that Sunday night.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 28, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Viva le ROI!!

:)

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Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 7:45 AM PDT

by homesickalien on Jul 28, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Defense

The defense is really troubling. The first time I sensed the 2005 team was special was in June of that year, watching them grind out the one run games – sometimes as simple as always challenging the other team to make the good throw by going from 1st to 3rd on a single.

They got used to winning games with consistent pressure type play – which served them well in October.

 It just seemed that in games like last night’s they were able to keep the pressure on the other team waiting for them to blink or bobble – which is something that you can’t do if you are the one making the errors.

Does this team have as much talent as 2005? Yes, but does it have that “you’ll blink before we will quality?”. No or at least not yet.

by Dick Allen's batting helmet on Jul 28, 2009 11:01 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Thank you.

One of the best posts ever.

Thanks, Mark.

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by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As much talent as 05?

I don’t think so, however the bigger problem is the AL East is stronger then it was in 05. I really don’t know how anyone from outside that division will win the AL Pennant.

by 815Sox on Jul 28, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

7 good starts.

Pitching, pitching, pitching.

Thanks, Mark.

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by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

right

that was the major part of 05..

The starting pitching is looking damn good right now, the bullpen not so much. If they don’t recover then I do not like our chances.

We knew this team was going to be streaky coming into the season though. As long as we are in contention then I will be happy. I wasn’t expecting much from us this year.

by 815Sox on Jul 28, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bullpen will be AOK, IMO.

Better defense (just eliminate most of the mental errors) and a Tigeresque (Woods) mindset (a 6 – 8 game win streak will get it done) and they are a very good team.

Thanks, Mark.

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by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should have mentioned

I do think the pen will recover.

The one thing that worries me is the Chicago tradition of our sports teams to hide or underreport injuries. The Bears were always the worst, but both baseball teams and the Hawks are giving them a run for the money this year. (Hossa anyone?)

by 815Sox on Jul 28, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This team isn't nearly as lucky as 05

that much is for certain . . . where is Cliff Politte when you need him? Especially him . . . but both he and Cotts certainly enjoyed there fair share that year.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 28, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We were the luckiest team I've ever seen.

We got every break imaginable and had almost every “high leverage” situation turn out in our best interest. I think that was why KW went and broke it up in ’06 – no way were we repeating that dance.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

eh, DER is 18th

It’s the hitting I’m worried about. Pitching is good, defense is average, but the hitting is either of those.

by madvillian on Jul 28, 2009 11:07 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's the AL Central...no worries.

"I do think that there's a different quality to what used to be Cominskey Field vs. Wrigley," President Obama told Bob Costas during an interview that aired during Tuesday night's MLB All-Star Game.

by tailgater on Jul 28, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you kidding?

this team is fucked. one loss in the metrodome? it’s fucking ova.

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by larry on Jul 28, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

52 unearned runs, 3rd worst in baseball.

Seems like a pretty good indicator of the impact of misplays

Thanks, Mark.

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by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That doesn't even count the runs that scored after routine DPs weren't turned! Remember the beginning of the year when we were missing A LOT of those inning-ending DPs? Those runs weren't technically "unearned" in the books,

but they kept innings going and plated runs that really should not have scored.

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by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 7:45 AM PDT

by homesickalien on Jul 28, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kind of like the Tigers on Sunday?

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Jul 28, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bah. Missed the game, surfing... got home and watched the Perfect Game again instead. :)

Buehrle Birthday Buehrle!
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Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 7:45 AM PDT

by homesickalien on Jul 28, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Compare 2005 to 2009

Crede – Becks
uribe – Alexei
Iguchi – Nix/Getz
Pods – Q!
The Legend – Pods
JD – JD 4 years older
Paulie – Paulie 4 years older
AJ – AJ 4 years older

Defensively, I’m thinking the difference is the difference this year between winning 91 games and winning 85.

And don’t forget “when Uribe got hot he could carry the team”

by Dick Allen's batting helmet on Jul 28, 2009 11:45 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nobody really wanted Uribe to get hot

Because he would take his shirt off.

Moobs.

by 67WMAQ on Jul 28, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, there are such creatures as "chubby-chasers".

I think you know what I’m saying.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of defense, man! JD's missed catch last night was brutal to watch. At the speed with which he hit that wall, I'm surprised he got up as quickly as he did.

I am all for him DHing next year. Not quite ready to see his bat go….but would not mind some fresh legs in the outfield.

Buehrle Birthday Buehrle!
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Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 7:45 AM PDT

by homesickalien on Jul 28, 2009 11:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You are all about the fresh legs.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haven't you heard that pods is the dh next year?

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Jul 28, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, I'm tired of the talk

It’s noon, let’s begin the next game

¡signature!

by billyok on Jul 28, 2009 11:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Thorndog's baby safe from you?

You baby-eater, you.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As long as he pitches well

I couldn’t possibly

¡signature!

by billyok on Jul 28, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even though he let us down yesterday,

I still have a bonerko for konerko.

by MrBungle on Jul 28, 2009 12:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Clayton Richard still qualified as a rookie with the White Sox this year based on innings pitched, and he’s a good player to look at in this article due to the ups and downs he has suffered through this year. He has not been as good at home (5.60 ERA, 1.5 HR/9) but on the road has had more success (4.50 ERA, 0.8 HR/9). He’s had stretches, including one he is in right now, where he has been dominating (16 innings, two runs allowed, 10 Ks, and four walks in his last two starts) and others where things do not go so well like the two starts prior to that (4 2/3 innings, 10 runs, four Ks, and three walks). It’s frustrating as a fantasy owner to have someone pitch poorly enough that you consider dropping them, only to have them bust out with two great performances that put you in some kind of pleased-but-paranoid frame of mind. Chances are good he can’t keep up the same kind of performance he gave during the last two starts, given his struggles against right-handers (.299/.372/.442 in 251 at-bats) so if you have the roster space to keep or pick up Richard—assuming you are that desperate for starting pitching—then using him in road starts might be your best shot so you can try to avoid the homer problems that the Cell presents.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=9301

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by larry on Jul 28, 2009 12:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, pissing off the fantasy owners must be weighing on him a lot.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and someone was saying it was?

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by larry on Jul 28, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was making a joke, Mr. Sensitive.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's the spirit!!!!

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Jul 28, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those asshole Olsens have it coming

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 28, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like you wouldn't marry that lottery, OM.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck Punto and Gomez! To hell with the twinks!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 28, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

seriously

let’s do this

Lupe, release the balloons!

by LT_sox_fan on Jul 28, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mariners selling

lets get felix hernandez and brandon morrow for fields, clayton, and our entire triple a roster

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart

by Jbasic89 on Jul 28, 2009 12:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just Felix, plz. I want my pitchers to have big hirsute balls.

Buehrle Birthday Buehrle!
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by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 7:45 AM PDT

by homesickalien on Jul 28, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

....photo op.....(waiting).....

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 28, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

joke doesn't make quite the same sense now that flowers and poreda are there.

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by larry on Jul 28, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beckham for Ichiro thank you very much

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 28, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clearly a great idea.

Buehrle Birthday Buehrle!
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Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 7:45 AM PDT

by homesickalien on Jul 28, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like a FanPost re: a certain Viking...?

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aardsma.

For the whole Sox bullpen. He has that stare that is chilling.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

watch out.

his numbers are depressed by the park and the outfield defense behind him. i wouldn’t include carrasco in the deal.

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by larry on Jul 28, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

¡signature!

by billyok on Jul 28, 2009 12:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

Thanks, Mark.

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by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks to the intro paragraph, I know exactly where to stalk Mark Buehrle

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by Ozzie Montana on Jul 28, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is a beautiful article.

Absolutely beautiful. So many vignettes, so many reasons I love the White Sox. From Count to AJ to idiot Fields (“there are times I’ve missed pitches”) to crying Coop.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

when the hell did this happen?!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 28, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me guess: Regional Edition?

It wouldn’t surprise me.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Jul 28, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

rolling....

Buehrle Birthday Buehrle!
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by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2009 7:45 AM PDT

by homesickalien on Jul 28, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

VG.

Thanks, Mark.

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by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

at least it's real. I thought maybe Cip sent it to you.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Jul 28, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Favre went to the grocery store?!? Damn, how did I miss that?

I read he wasn’t going to the store anymore, and then that he might go to the store, and then that he was living in a trailer in the parking lot of the store and possibly talking to the store manager but I completely missed that he actually shopped at the store.

by hitlesswonder on Jul 28, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. Thank you.

I’ll have to go out and buy that sucker now.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hell yeah

that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma

by furby2056 on Jul 28, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cool. Jason Bartlett's mom has a SI cover for her scrapbook.

"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote

by SkanchoDanza on Jul 28, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Contador's mom too.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Jul 28, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh no! the worst thing has just happened

my kettle has broken – no tea till I buy another tomorrow, that’s so shitty, no tea, I’m like a refugee. I’m off to the pub to get blind drunk instead.

by hoodlight on Jul 28, 2009 1:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

1745284599674 46745672892992

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Jul 28, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's between "$h!t" and "Syphillis" in the dictionary, hoodie.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ma Kettle certainly is working out back,

plowing the fields and plantin’.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Without the tea, sympathy is useless.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Jul 28, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

very good

but I’m gagging for a cuppa after my tea, broken kettle, that’s a major disaster

by hoodlight on Jul 28, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's too hot here to drink tea

pretty much from june through august.

it is what it is......

by BuehrleMan on Jul 28, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but tea is refreshing no matter how hot it is

When I was working in New delhi, which was like the hottest city on earth or seemed like it at the time ( plus the raw sewage flows through the street, place stinks to high heaven) tea was what everyone drank. After all you can’t trust the water, you end up shitting through the eye of a needle

by hoodlight on Jul 28, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just can't do it.

when it’s 80 degrees and extremely humid at 7 in the morning, a cuppa will start me sweating profusely and it’s impossible to dry out for the rest of the day.

it is what it is......

by BuehrleMan on Jul 28, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No. Finding Stan in the bottom of a boiling kettle would be a major disaster.

This is an inconvenience.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Jul 28, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You must be quite sore.

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey did we lose yesterday or something?

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 28, 2009 1:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 28, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Defense.

Thanks, Mark.

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by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mark Kotsay

Welcome to the White Sox. BA traded to the Red Sox.

by Off the bus running on Jul 28, 2009 2:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

just announced on the score.

mercy. what is going on?

it is what it is......

by BuehrleMan on Jul 28, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

must mean that Ellesbury is being lined up in a trade for Halliday

or at least that’s the rumour that I’m pretending I’ve come up with but in reality I’ve just copied it from somewhere else

by hoodlight on Jul 28, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nooooooooo

that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma

by furby2056 on Jul 28, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That means Vernon Wells is coming here!

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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not for at least 3 more years - still too young

Remember when "Cuban Pride" meant something...

by Brush Back on Jul 28, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

tbh who fucking cares

bloke was an arsehole who couldn’t swing a bat to save his life

by hoodlight on Jul 28, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and dreamy

that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma

by furby2056 on Jul 28, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's going the Aardsma route

be an all star for Seattle in 2011

by hoodlight on Jul 28, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BA is gone

LINK

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by Brush Back on Jul 28, 2009 2:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Boston babes beware.

Thanks, Mark.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0 4 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 5 6 0

by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 2:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the honeys in boston are excited

that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma

by furby2056 on Jul 28, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But what about our

defense?

Thanks, Mark.

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by ballyb on Jul 28, 2009 2:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh no....GD*mn DEEEEEEWAAAAAYNNNNNNEEEE WISE!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 28, 2009 2:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

White Flag 09

is in effect

¡signature!

by billyok on Jul 28, 2009 2:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow - looking at Kotsay's stats

This must have been done to make BA happy… and resolve the CF decision. Is JR available - we need more age out there

STATS

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by Brush Back on Jul 28, 2009 2:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

JR - General Soreness?

He certainly is NOT available – larry already said Carrasco would need to be in the mix to get all of Seattle, and we’re not budging.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn!

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by Brush Back on Jul 28, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WSCR reported it - Kotsay and cash for BA

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by Brush Back on Jul 28, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cash. Mmmmmmmmmmmmm.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Might have 50 cents again!!!!

Remember when "Cuban Pride" meant something...

by Brush Back on Jul 28, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shot 9 times!

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

i was hoping for at least clay bucholz and josh beckett

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart

by Jbasic89 on Jul 28, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

kotsay sounds like a 'we always get our man' kind of guy

too bad it isn’t a few years ago. then again, it beats the hell out of the bag of balls that we figured BA would be worth.

by Trooper on Jul 28, 2009 2:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep. Those 74 ABs with a .615 OPS sure look good in comparison to BA!

Nothing for nothing leaves nothing….

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Jul 28, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That makes the deal even sweeter!!!

Remember when "Cuban Pride" meant something...

by Brush Back on Jul 28, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BA had a broken heart. Isn't that hurt?

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Jul 28, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't a DFA'd player the equivalent of a bag of balls?

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Jul 28, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Less

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by Brush Back on Jul 28, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like KW making a deal to make a deal - Its GS all over again

Where and when is this guy going to play? 1st base backup?

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by Brush Back on Jul 28, 2009 2:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Value -57 runs since '06 in CF... ouch

Remember when "Cuban Pride" meant something...

by Brush Back on Jul 28, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My deal to make a deal is white.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You fools!

This is just the first part of a 3-way deal to get Halladay.

"I do think that there's a different quality to what used to be Cominskey Field vs. Wrigley," President Obama told Bob Costas during an interview that aired during Tuesday night's MLB All-Star Game.

by tailgater on Jul 28, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I promised myself I wouldn't watch the Sox game

the day before the bar, after taking some tylenol pm around 8ish, i decided i could listen to the game while falling asleep… big mistake… as of now, i’m not even sure i slept at all – what a brutal game

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH

by Illini0509 on Jul 28, 2009 3:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

More importantly, how was the test?

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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by winningugly on Jul 28, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think it went pretty well

there were a few minor portions i wasn’t sure on, but you’re not competing for an A, just a passing grade… overall, i’m pretty confident – part two tomorrow

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH

by Illini0509 on Jul 28, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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