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Buehrle's Record Run Can't Stop Sox Dome Woes

Scott Podsednik can't catch

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Scott Podsednik can't catch

Not even another 5.2 innings of perfect baseball from Mark Buehrle and a Major League record 45 consecutive batters retired can put an end to the White Sox bad mojo in the Metrodome.

Buehrle was brilliant yet again, with only one of the first 17 batters he faced putting the ball into the outfield. But things quickly unraveled, as they tend to do in the horrordome, when Buehrle lost his return bid at perfection with a walk to Alexi Casilla. In a classy move, the Minnesota fans gave Buehrle a standing ovation, though I couldn't help but feel like it was a We Finally Got A Baserunner, We're Only Down 1, Here We Come type cheer. Maybe that's just my jaded hatred for all things Twins. And comeback they did, in typical Twins fashion with a little help from some poor White Sox defense.

Denard Span quickly made sure Buehrle lost not just his run at perfection but his no-no as well, with a single to CF to set up the game's defining play. Joe Mauer hit a deep but easily playable flyball to left field, where Scott Podsednik got a bead on it, measured it, then flat out missed his sorry attempt at a catch.

The Twins didn't stop there, and neither did the Sox defensive miscues. In the 7th, Chris Getz turned what should have been a double play ball into a 1st-and-3rd, nobody out situation by inexplicably breaking toward second as if he was covering in a hit-and-run situation (it wasn't) on a ball hit in the 3.5 hole. Getz looked like one of those little leaguers you tell to go play second base and he runs to second and stands on the bag, leaving the whole right side of the infield open. Lil' Nicky Punto would put the Twins ahead for good with an opposite field blooper over 1st base, and the White Sox bullpen took care of the rest putting the game out of reach.

The Sox defense, which laughably played error-less ball, was not solely to blame for the loss. While Buehrle was cruising through the first 5 innings retiring all 15 batters he faced, the Sox offense only managed two hits and, of course, zero runs. I couldn't help but think of Freddy Garcia's 1-hit loss in the dome a few years back, and couldn't help but wonder if Buehrle would suffer a similar fate. Comically, he ended up allowing 5 runs, none of which would have scored with some reliable major league defense. 

Rosterbation

White Sox send Brian Anderson to Red Sox for Mark Kotsay

I can't take credit for "Rosterbation." I happened to see the word earlier today on USSM and decided it perfectly described this trade. The Red Sox had already effectively washed their hands of Kotsay when they acquired Adam Laroche from the Pirates, while the White Sox essentially ended the Brian Anderson era when they chose to send him down instead of DFA'ing Dewayne Wise when Carlos Quentin came off the DL. Anderson soon requested a trade, and even though they could find no team willing to send anything of value in return, the White Sox obliged in the quickest way possible, which just happened to be the soon-to-be-free-agent with negative trade value, Mark Kotsay.

Kotsay isn't any good, can't really play the outfield anymore, and will primarily be the backup 1B in place of Josh Fields, who will be optioned to AAA Charlotte to make room on the roster and will probably demand a trade of his own so we can do this all over again. 

[Update by The Cheat, 07/29/09 12:22 AM CDT]: Yep, Fields has asked for a trade.

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I guess Pod's soul isn't enough

Now Mr. Scratch wants his first born child too – do it Pods, do it!

"It was like everything was slow motion," Wise said. "I stuck my hand out so slowly and was able to make the catch."

by ChicagoPete on Jul 29, 2009 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don't get the Lovitz part.

But it obviously is a stitch for most.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, if the Sox don't trade Vazquez and Swisher would they be leading the Central now?

Of course, maybe neither guy performs they way they have elsewhere given that they’d be in a much tenser situation (what with the under bus-throwing last season and all). And it’s quite possibly the case that the Sox could not afford those 2 plus the existing roster.

Still, I can’t help but feel that if the Sox had done nothing in the offseason….oh well.

by hitlesswonder on Jul 28, 2009 11:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

DONT THINK OF THE DOME THINK OF AT HOME

We have to really prove ourselves at home against the Yankees. We all know the Sox are cursed in the dome, expectations to win there were not in sight. Its at home where we have to get way better we are only 4 above .500. The Sox should be ten or more above at home and hitting home runs. On the road they have to be the grinder ball team which we are starting to see more now especially from our future prospects, Beckham, Getz, Alexei, Nyx. Its on defense where we really are hurting more than anything. So bad that Alexei and AJ had a chew out. But we are only 2 games out of first and this division is a vomiting sea saw so every game is another life.

The Ghost of Ron Rivera haunts the Windy City...

by Oso Monstar of Midway on Jul 28, 2009 11:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

did I say ten or more above .500 at home??

I think 15 or more above .500 is a more sure bet to clinch the pennant, only if we keep up the .500 or so grinder ball on the road, especially the way the Sox did on the road against the NL teams.

The Ghost of Ron Rivera haunts the Windy City...

by Oso Monstar of Midway on Jul 28, 2009 11:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

motherfuckingsuckmonkey

ususally i read previous posts and whatnot, serioiosuly drink. don’t know what anyone else saw. did pods embarrass me or was it my imagintation? so fucking angry . Dfa ppods noew please. fucking fucker.

it is what it is......

by BuehrleMan on Jul 28, 2009 11:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i blame podsednikjdn.

fuck.

it is what it is......

by BuehrleMan on Jul 28, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fuckiityfuckfukc

it is what it is......

by BuehrleMan on Jul 28, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are drink! Hide the children

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 28, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pods in the lineup is one of the best things going for the Sox but yes.....

his defense is stinky. Our outfield is a big question mark. the only future we have playing is Carlos Quentin and Dye is on way to DH with the poor range he covers in right, and Pods is not getting younger.

The Ghost of Ron Rivera haunts the Windy City...

by Oso Monstar of Midway on Jul 28, 2009 11:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

pods is defense is stinky

which is why we clearly need to have hime start DHing

by soxshenanigans on Jul 29, 2009 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How soon can we rid of Thome!!?! Let's do it!

(clearly)

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Jul 29, 2009 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so angry.

it is what it is......

by BuehrleMan on Jul 28, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

accidentally!

that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma

by furby2056 on Jul 28, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

is this bad?

I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT

by e-gus on Jul 29, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thre's nothing like hearing ciub fans chering

whne buehrle lost his no hitteer.(they don;t know anytheing about a perefet game)
fuck. fucking fuckeras.

it is what it is......

by BuehrleMan on Jul 28, 2009 11:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wow picktoclick really was rught

pods should DHb

it is what it is......

by BuehrleMan on Jul 28, 2009 11:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i'll take yit.

at least BA would have caught the motherfucking abll so embarrasing.

it is what it is......

by BuehrleMan on Jul 28, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soon to be gone too

One catch does not make you a major league player... or does it?

by Brush Back on Jul 29, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you fer us or agin' us?

Speak now. Your plane ticket awaits.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well at least we know the story on the 2009 Sox

Starting pitching – very good to excellent
Bullpen – can be/should be very good; but too many off nights
Hitting – hit or miss – making too many meh pitchers look very very good.
Defense – brutal

Not a good combination for grinding out/pressuring out road wins.

Fortunately in the mediocre Central it isn’t too late to improve (more consistent hitting and bullpen is possible given our personnel) although with the current position players I don’t know how much defensive improvement we can expect (players don’t suddenly become better fielders).

by Dick Allen's batting helmet on Jul 28, 2009 11:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you knmow who's terrible?

scott podsednik/.

it is what it is......

by BuehrleMan on Jul 28, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he didn't get a hit today either!!!!

that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma

by furby2056 on Jul 28, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah he did

but do you remember when he missed that fly ball?

that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma

by furby2056 on Jul 28, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

vaguely.

it is what it is......

by BuehrleMan on Jul 28, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

another drink my friend!

that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma

by furby2056 on Jul 29, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

solid infield, terrible outfield

defensively speaking.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Jul 29, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah basically

haven’t had bad SS defense since pre-Valentin, iirc.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Jul 29, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stats would say

solid infield is a stretch I would guess.

by ballyb on Jul 29, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm not too sure how useful UZR is

but Beckham can probably be -5 UZR150 the rest of the way, Alexei +5, w/ Getz/Nix/Konerko about avg. that’s my defn. of solid, apparently.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Jul 29, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He would be +7 without the "P" factor.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

trade him to Colorado

He’ll fit right in with all the other hand wavers out there.

I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT

by e-gus on Jul 29, 2009 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

only if we get cy de la rosa back in exchange

that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma

by furby2056 on Jul 29, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking more along the lines of domeone who really sucks

like a Matt Murton or something

I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT

by e-gus on Jul 29, 2009 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

someone

cant get that damn dome out of my head

I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT

by e-gus on Jul 29, 2009 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he would be a good fit in charlotte

that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma

by furby2056 on Jul 29, 2009 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

KW should entertain trade offers...

The best fit for Fields would appear to be 16 inch slowpitch. Perhaps one of Chicago’s best lakefront slowpitch teams should offer a bag of practice balls and a Sunday kegger at whatever bar sponsors them.

by Dick Allen's batting helmet on Jul 29, 2009 12:10 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cuba Si Yankee No

If there is a time for the Cuban missile Alexei and the resurgent Jose Contreras to strike it is at the empire, the Yankees. Like Che and Fidel said, Cuba Si! Yankee No!

Alexei in the two hole really needs to be a more explosive hitter, much like he was in the 6th and 7th hole last season. I hope he clicks soon with his quantum grand slam self against the big money Yankees.

what do you all think about moving Beckham to the two hole and moving Alexei back down to where he was more successful? Flash Gordon is more explosive at this point and a hard base runner.

The Ghost of Ron Rivera haunts the Windy City...

by Oso Monstar of Midway on Jul 29, 2009 12:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed Boe

that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma

by furby2056 on Jul 29, 2009 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They looked pretty terrible

Especially when Getz totally misread that way the ball was going to break

by 815Sox on Jul 29, 2009 7:40 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Colon scratched - Contreras tonight....elbow issues.

Per Comcast. I’m thinking the Colon exp. is ova.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 29, 2009 7:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

http://myespn.go.com/s/conversations/show/story/4362805

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 29, 2009 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

PPB Deathmatch!

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey he can't put up bad numbers if he aint pitching...

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 29, 2009 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can't win if you can't play.

Do NOT start moving the bar, TD. I will reach through these tubes…

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im not moving the bar old man

I just said he cant do damage if he’s not pitching. I let you include Colon in the first place so pipe down…..

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 29, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Colon Scratched with Elbow"

Those yoga classes must be working.

"It was like everything was slow motion," Wise said. "I stuck my hand out so slowly and was able to make the catch."

by ChicagoPete on Jul 29, 2009 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

right now the sox website has colon pitching tomorrow

can’t help but notice that would be richard’s spot in the rotation if he were to start tho…

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Jul 29, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually, i'm a moron

i cant do that whole count to 5 thing

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Jul 29, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wouldn't that be gavin?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 29, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea

i looked at that after the 2nd post but didn’t want to respond to myself twice. so gavin thursday and richard friday

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Jul 29, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which makes sense

That way he can’t pitch until the deadline so if we want to move him we can do it before he comes back to earth.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 29, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

now that i have had a bit of time

to reflect upon the events of last evening, i would like to say that i’d be perfectly happy to designate scott podsednik for assignment.

it is what it is......

by BuehrleMan on Jul 29, 2009 8:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How's your liver?

Gave billyok a run for his drinky $ last night.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he can start running from the dugout

to the batter’s box during the wind-up. Just effing freak out the pitchers.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes.

it’s brutal that there are no better options than him.

it is what it is......

by BuehrleMan on Jul 29, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know about all that.

He’s had two bad games at the dome, just like everyone else on the team, but before that against the Tigers and Rays, two teams with good pitching he went 11 for 28. I wouldn’t say that’s a slow down nor would I consider two games without a hit a trend of any kind.

His OPS was nearly as high as it’s been all season just 3 days ago.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 29, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm, i was thinking the suck was back too.

but you talked me out of it. thank you for reason.

by Trooper on Jul 29, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DFA them all!!!

Remember when "Cuban Pride" meant something...

by Brush Back on Jul 29, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt it

I’m pretty sure if you’re watching a Nationals game, its because your a fan of the other team.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 29, 2009 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no

they hit two grandslams in a game

I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT

by e-gus on Jul 29, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Major Leaguers with the Least Trade Value

No ChiSox on the list. (Not too surprising.) Would be hard to be a Mariners fan!
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=schoenfield/090727&sportCat=mlb

by Soderholm-er on Jul 29, 2009 8:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WSJ says Che hits dinky dingers. Pedroia the stubbiest:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203609204574316580384896254.html#mod=todays_us_personal_journal

Che 5th shortest. So all of you who’d like to see 25-30 dongs from him, keep dreaming. he’s lucky to be at 11.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 8:52 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BuehrleMan,

When you get ready to go to an AA meeting, I can help you.

by ballyb on Jul 29, 2009 9:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I was young once and got into a little issue with the bottle and the law.

As punishment they made me attend about a dozen of these meetings….this was in Kentucky, where I went to school none the less. Classes were across the street from the police station and I had to attend for four hours every sunday. First class I walk in and sit next to this guy with his mechanic’s uniform on and his name was Jim. I’ll never forget it….he looked like a bottle of whiskey. He looks at me and says “First meetin’?” I said yeah, and he goes…“well here’s a little tip. You can’t come sober to this things – gotta have a few drinks before hand.” This AA class seems to be helping Jim.

lastly I had to scrounge around to get a ride to this class because your license is suspended for 90-days and until you complete the class. I remember I couldn’t get a ride so walked about 4 miles to get there. Then after the class all of the degenerates walk downstairs and get in their cars and drive home. Remember, this class is across the street from the police station.

Needless to say…rehabilitation in any form is a joke.

“They want to send you to rehab, BM…just say no, no, no.”

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 29, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rehabilitation isn't a joke

People’s ability to rehabilitate is a joke… may seem like the same thing, but it’s really a world of difference

by CatBrains on Jul 29, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should have been more clear...most rehabilitation is a joke - not all. I digress...

Rehabilitation in many forms is a joke. This class was a joke…nobody, and I mean nobody gave two sh*ts about it.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 29, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well also... I think more specifically your point is

forced rehabilitation is a joke… which I agree with 100%

by CatBrains on Jul 29, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not always.

For some folks it is the “raising of the bottom”. You guys sound like “old school” AA guys who say “you have to hit bottom on your own – no one can help you”. In my 10 years of previous work in addictions I saw many people have their personal “bottom” raised by employers/spouses/teachers/parents who set appropriate limits with them – “tough love”, as they say.

Some need to crash and burn through all support systems before trying something different (recovery). Many don’t. “Tough love” works, too.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right... guess I was thinking of a more narrowed version of "forced"

as in the people involved are hostile to the idea of rehabilitation. Your example is definitely relevant, though I don’t have any personal experience with that happening.

by CatBrains on Jul 29, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

tough love was my old man and the back of his large ring laced fingers...

that usually worked.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 29, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not your fault, son.

It’s not your fault. It’s not your fault.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my daughter is getting to the age where she knows right and wrong

this is the point in every parents life when you need to lay out how you are going to raise your child and teach your child to behave. The fact that she is a daughter and not a son makes this much more difficult.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 29, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good.Luck.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Jul 29, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, I'm f*cked

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 29, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how old is your daughter?

My son isn’t quite 2 yet…. my wife is due again in jan… heres hoping that it is another boy. having a daughter would freak me out.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 29, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

11 Mos

I hear girls mature faster which is good and bad…but you gotta change your whole idea of discipline. My wife is terrible at it by the way….

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 29, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If your idea of discipline is Dad's idea,

I think you might want to amend itt, anyway, no matter if a girl or boy. Break. The. Cycle.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks for the tip

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 29, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good luck

I have 2 boys almost 2 years apart . . . havoc and chaos is what I call them now. The 3 year old was a great baby and is now a terror and the 1 year old has been crazy since day 1 . . . hoping he has a mild toddler stage. The jump from 1 to 2 is huge since now there is one for both you and your wife . . . no breaks now!

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 29, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

gee thanks. sounds promising :) where were you the night i thought it might be a good idea?

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 29, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, a few months late!

Figured I give you the heads up no one gave us. Seriously, as you know, kids are great . . . but going from 1 to 2 was a lot more work than we could have imagined. Obviously, would not change it for the world and once they are a bit older, it will be great since they will be able to play together . . . just a little rough in the early years!

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 29, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait until you've not slept for a month, Troop.

Not so much fun. Once you are past that, it’s a blast, every day. And you will be joining true “adulthood”. Otherwise, as Louis CK says, marriage without kids is dating.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what about dating with kids?

also, the … at the end are the overwhelmed mans version of clearly.

by Trooper on Jul 29, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saw Louis CK live a couple years back in Chicago.

Laughed, in tears, for the entire show.
Especially his bit about parenthood.
Oh man…oh man…oh man…funniest live comedy I’ve ever seen.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Jul 29, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saw that special on HBO last night.

Have seen it at least 20×. At least. If you’ve ever had a 2 year old daughter , and been a married man in search of a safe place to fwap, fwap, fwap in your own home, it is one of the funniest 1/2 hours in history.

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

louis ck is fucking awesome

I liked his TV show on hbo too….. i was pissed when it was canceled.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 29, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"If you have a problem...........and

They want to send you to rehab, BM…just say no, no, no OK, I’ll go."

by ballyb on Jul 29, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

D'Wise - now batting a brisk .185 with an OBP of .228

AND STILL THIS JOKE IS IN BASEBALL!

One catch does not make you a major league player... or does it?

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and facing joe nathan with two outs in the ninth.

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by larry on Jul 29, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have to put folks in the "highest and best use" position.

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup.

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by larry on Jul 29, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no worries

whats his face arrives today

I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT

by e-gus on Jul 29, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was our leadoff hitter and starting daily centerfielder for us at the beginning of the season

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by blackoutsox on Jul 29, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe we can trade for general soreness again

better than the shit we have now.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 29, 2009 9:29 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You are kidding, correct?

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes and no.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 29, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Question...

When Pods or Carlos have to go on the DL – who do the Sox call up! Danks?

One catch does not make you a major league player... or does it?

by Brush Back on Jul 29, 2009 9:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

betemit.

he plays better defense than either one of them.

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lillibridge.

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by larry on Jul 29, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Knocking the cover off the ball.

Maybe, just maybe he………….

by ballyb on Jul 29, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kotsay.

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BA

Oh wait….I thought that was just a bad dream….NOOOOOOOOO!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 29, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm more concerned about next year...I hope the Sox don't re-sign Pods

I fear they likely will, as they’ll have 2 outfield slots to fill, he’ll be cheap (although $3M or whatever they end up paying will be way too much), and of course he can leadoff.

Williams won’t do that though, right? He’ll want a real OF next season…I think.

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Pods can DH.

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— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Jul 29, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It depend on if Pods gives him an out or not

but if he continues to hit like he has for the rest of this season, it will be hard to sell the idea of not resigning him to the (very large) portion of the fan base that doesn’t understand Podsednik doesn’t have a lot of value (you know… unless he is DHing)

by CatBrains on Jul 29, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Better then what we had this year.

I’d be surprised though, there are a lot of teams looking to dump veterans, there are options for KW, we have financial flexibility due to some good long term planning. I wouldn’t be worried yet.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 29, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'll be cheap.

We’ll be needing one more cheap year from a vet before the kids are ready. He fits.

DAMMIT TO HELL!

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I was thinking, too

In 2010 the Sox will need to:

1) Keep 1 of Thome or Dye
2) Buy 1 good starting pitcher
3) Buy 2 outfielders

That’s an expensive list and there’s nothing in the minors ready at any of those positions. Pods will probably be cheapish and allow them to fill at least one of those slots without breaking the budget.
 

by hitlesswonder on Jul 29, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why 1?

I like the idea of Konerko as DH.

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by BobbySouthSide on Jul 29, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why?

He’s plenty serviceable at first and he lowers his value by going to DH? Have Dye DH before Konerko.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 29, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I could sign dye to a 1-year deal, yeah.

Otherwise I just want Konerko and I want to get younger.

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by BobbySouthSide on Jul 29, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

$12M for Dye in 2010 when Abreu signed for $5M

Not sure that is a good idea….he’ll be 36 as well.

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by BobbySouthSide on Jul 29, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Family.

Be nice to keep Jermaine in the organization.

Pitching (check), Hitting (check), Defense (uh, no).

by ballyb on Jul 29, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

abreu isn't going to hit 35 homers.

dye has taken less money a couple of times to stay on the sox. time for the organization to throw him that 12 million dollar bone.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 29, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's a lot of money

this is a gametime decision….depends on what moves are out there. Who you can acquire or sign as a FA. depends on what you do in CF.

If he was 30 or 32, yeah…but 36….I hesitate.

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by BobbySouthSide on Jul 29, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

CF is set.

Pitching (check), Hitting (check), Defense (uh, no).

by ballyb on Jul 29, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

12 million for Dye's bat is crazy

But, we do have Linebrink, so who cares.

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 29, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's had arguably the best bat for a corner outfielder in the a.l.

over the last 5 years. 12 million isn’t that much…plus it is only for 1 year. unless he gets hurt over the last 2 months of the season, i pick it up without hesitation.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 29, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

make dye a sox for-rest-of-his-lifer
he’s earned it and will keep fans coming(like me) in case they are worried about money

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by blackoutsox on Jul 29, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It isnt that crazy

a little expensive? Yes, but not crazy. Someone can correct me if I am wrong . . . but as a DH, he would have been +2.4 WAR last year as in on pace to exceed that this year . . . the only issue is the supply of DH types tends to exceed the demand, so you normally shouldn’t overpay for just a DH . . . but at least he could still play a corner if needed, unlike Thome.

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by jc2313 on Jul 29, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For the record I'm on board with keeping Dye at DH

At 12 million you’re overpaying for him, but I guess it’s a bonus for the past 5 years. Just wondering who they would then put in RF, Q* should probably be in LF…..then I dunno.

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 29, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Q right, pods left, wise center

or…
thome right, paulie left, jd center

which is worse???

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by blackoutsox on Jul 29, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Abreu signed for $5M last year

not sure the market will be the same as I think the economic picture will be more clear. Not that it is good picture, but more clear. Plus, a lot of these ‘bargains’ from last offseason have played pretty well . . . Abreu, Hudson, etc. Regarding Dye, the Sox have to pay a $1M buyout regardless, so it is an $11M decision. And to bally’s point, Reinsdorf does have a thing for loyalty. Jermaine kept his word back in ’04, was a major contributor in bringining him a ring and has been very productive this year. His performance in the field screams DH. I just would not be surprised either way at this point. Before the season, I would have said no, but Dye has outperformed my expectations (offensively) by quite a bit.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 29, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have been on record.

Looked OK last night, eh?

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't blame him

all people with dark skin must look the same to him. It’s either the cataracts or the upbringing

by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 29, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry - was thinking of his one inning,

3 up, 3 down this week. My secretary’s been out all week, and my mind’s a scrambled mess.

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't wait for your child to arrive.

I will be there for you, Trooper.

BWAHAHAHA!

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone seems to be giving up on Thome... why?

The Sox certainly won’t offer him arbitration, but it seems to me like the market will be limited for Thome and the Sox should/will be able to get him back on a one year, ~$5 million deal. He seems genuinely happy and comfortable here and I certainly don’t think he’s done…

by CWSKeith on Jul 29, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think everyone is conceding

either one of Thome or Dye will be gone . . . and most are siding with Thome, that is all. You could be right though.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 29, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be perfectly reasonable

A cheap one year deal for a guy who will have been one of the best DHs in the league is defensible.

The only downside is that if the Sox keep both, it keeps Dye in the field.

by hitlesswonder on Jul 29, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be fine with it if he plays LF.

He’s cheap, no clubhouse issues, not the worst LF in the world for the money (see Juan Pierre). All things considered if he’s in LF, Q is in RF, Dye DHing, and we get a CF, it’s better than what we had most of this year. Buys you another year until Danks or someone else is ready.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 29, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pierre is actually earning his money

this year . . . or at least a lot of it.

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=443&position=OF

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by jc2313 on Jul 29, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kind of an outlier year, though, no?

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sort of like Podsednik, no?

just saying Pierre isnt the worst LF for the money . . . at least this year.

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by jc2313 on Jul 29, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Either is pods.

For a 10th of the price. Both suck at defense, Pierre can’t throw. Why pay 10 million for Pierre who has had a hot streak, just like Pods.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 29, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who said anything about paying Pierre

$10M? You said he is the worst LF in the world for the money . . . the fact is that is not true this year. Also, he does not suck defensively in LF . . . Bad arm, yes.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 29, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because that's what he gets paid.

Unless you can convince the Dodgers to pick up his contract, that’s what you’re paying him.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 29, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The key is the cheap part there

as long as that holds true.

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by jc2313 on Jul 29, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It will hold true.

No one is paying Scott Podsednik a ton of money.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 29, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dont be so sure

speed doesn’t slump!

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by jc2313 on Jul 29, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And a ton of money to me

is like anything over $1M

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by jc2313 on Jul 29, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

White Sox CF is ML baseball?

Fial.

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, let me clarify

You said a ‘ton of money’ and a ‘ton of money’ for Podsednik would be more than a $1m in my opinion . . . and I am probably being generous.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 29, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I think he'll be more expensive than I'd like

If he hits .300, I could see the Sox overpaying him with something like a 2 year deal at $3M per or something silly like that.

by hitlesswonder on Jul 29, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

NFW.

Who else would come close to that? Who is going to bid for his services? WSH? COL? AZ? Nope, I wouldn’t worry about him becoming too expensive. Revenues still suck and will next year, too.

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a slight fear like hitless

maybe not $3mil per, but I could see the Sox outbidding themselves like they did with Pablo

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who was bidding for pablo ozuna's services.

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by larry on Jul 29, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So's your Mom.

Really, though, Pablo was a talisman.

Wait, so’s Pods!! AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's just entering his prime

remember it took him forever to make it through the minors. Now look at his hr. WAYYY higher than his first stint here. Plus he’s clutch and grindy.

by Hawk is God on Jul 29, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not on the Pods bandwagon

mad respect for what he did in the past and he is playing well, but that missed catch was brutal. I thought we should have gotten Juan Pierre instead of Pods earlier this season. Is Pods assumed to be a long term fixture?

by No It All on Jul 29, 2009 10:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good point

Juan Pierre is a stud defensively, and would have been a great value at 10 million a year. KW fails again.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 29, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SB'S, baby.

All about the SB’s. And he tore the cover off the ball when Manny went estrogen. Helluvan arm, too.

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sometimes

nice things cost money. the only manner in which pods is better is his cheap price tag, which makes anything positive he does spectacular in the minds of many… but getting high value out of Pods < a legit everyday CF for $10 million.

by No It All on Jul 29, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Juan Pierre isn't a legit CF.

And he surely isn’t a legit one at 10 million dollars.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 29, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no

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by blackoutsox on Jul 29, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apropo of nothing (although statistically significant).

Record in games

w/ 0 errors — 32 – 20
w/ 1 or more errors — 19 – 30

Pitching (check), Hitting (check), Defense (uh, no).

by ballyb on Jul 29, 2009 11:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yikes. Nice stat, bally, thx.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Jul 29, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

(As the UZR folks go ape$h!t.)

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck UZR.

Pitching (check), Hitting (check), Defense (uh, no).

by ballyb on Jul 29, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fuck errors.

let me know when the scorer gives pods an error for his non-catch last night.

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by larry on Jul 29, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saw the replay - prettty brutal.

And bally, your “zero” error night did not add up to a “W”. Because it really was not a zero error night.

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK we'll count that as an error and restate.

w/ 0 errors — 32 – 19
w/ 1 or more errors — 19 – 31

Pitching (check), Hitting (check), Defense (uh, no).

by ballyb on Jul 29, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many other "non-errors" are errors,

or a lack of range leading to runs?

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point. Restated.

w/ 0 errors — 32 – 0
w/ 1 or more errors — 19 – 50

Pitching (check), Hitting (check), Defense (uh, no).

by ballyb on Jul 29, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Predictions

1- The Sox will remain a mystery at the end of this tough stretch.

2- Gordon Beckham’s bat will enthrall, his glove will enrage.

3- The White Sox will remain a couple of games over and a couple of games out until the final two weeks of the season. That’s when the real fun begins.

4- Josh Fields will be traded for another failed Royals reliever.

5- Q! will perpetually “need more time.” Even thecip will lose faith, and express his bitterness in a country-western song that will be played in honky tonks for decades to come.

6- Dewayne Wise and Scott Podsednik will miss catches in the outfield, giving birth to the legend of Brian Anderson.

7- The President will sign a watered down health care reform bill.

8- You will find true love on Flag Day.

Print it out. Stick it to your fridge.

by 67WMAQ on Jul 29, 2009 11:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

#5

Q! will perpetually "need more time." Even thecip will lose faith, and express his bitterness in a country-western song that will be played in honky tonks for decades to come with accompanying gif which may or may not loop.

by jeeves on Jul 29, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd

This needs some Cipface superimposed onto a Vader.

THANK YOU NATE SILVER, TECHNOLOGY IS THE TOPS

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Re #6:

“It’s funny, because I got off the phone with [assistant general manager] Rick [Hahn], and you would think the conversation would be all serious,” Anderson said. "But we were kidding around. He wished me the best of luck, and I did the same.

“I truly mean it. I care about a lot of people over there and hope they do well. Everything happens for a reason. Sometimes, you hit certain bumps. Everything didn’t work out how I had all planned it out in my head in Chicago, but it could have been worse. I had great experiences, great memories.”

He leaves with no hard feelings, including toward his manager.

“That was all played out moreso by the media and by the fans,” said Anderson of his relationship with Guillen. “We weren’t the closest on the team, but his job is to manage and not to be my friend. He was doing his job.”

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090728&content_id=6112902&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

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— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Jul 29, 2009 12:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what a classy way to go out

for our little farm bred honey handler

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart

by Jbasic89 on Jul 29, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed

He’s not a complete idiot. Wouldn’t do him any good to go about it any other way.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 29, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

always liked the kid he was always good to have on the team even when he couldnt hit a lick

when he did hit i couldnt have been happier for him

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart

by Jbasic89 on Jul 29, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He generally has been a complete idiot.

He already is emulating his new ML manager.

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's been around long enough to see several people who have been made examples.

Besides, he probably knows he’s out of baseball at 30. Might has well keep the door open for a scouting/front office job.

Who knows – in 2025 we might be saying “If anyone can wheel and deal, it’s BA!”

And a new crop of punk kids will be calling us OPOS’s and asking us for stories about the perfect game.

larry will be Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

by 67WMAQ on Jul 29, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ok fine, how's this sound

You get our AA shortstop and I’ll even throw in a ptbnl…porking to be ’ncluded later

by jeeves on Jul 29, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

he added, "smell my finger! That smell is what you think it is."

member of a "solid community of fans" and "a meathead."

by thecip on Jul 29, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone think we'll make any real trades that don't involve trading off our crap that keeps requesting trades.

Like seriously, who is going to request a trade next, Wise or Nix?

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart

by Jbasic89 on Jul 29, 2009 1:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i am thinking more like who is on the block?

Fields, Pods, Richard, Floyd, Nix, Getz + prospects = we can get a player if we want one me thinx

by No It All on Jul 29, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Floyd isn't being traded

Pods, Fields and Nix are worthless. We got Pods as a free agent during the season, Nix as a free agent before the seasn, no one is going to pay for them. Fields is a terrible baseball player.

So really, you have Richard and Getz (who I don’t know how many teams would want either) + prospects. Some of our prospects are solid, but those other guys names are meaningless to any deal unless you’re looking to pick up another Mark Kotsay.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 29, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe
Cleveland will receive four coveted prospects: right-handed pitchers Carlos Carrasco and Jason Knapp, as well as shortstop Jason Donald and catcher Lou Marson.

from here

by jeeves on Jul 29, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not impressed

Riccardi is probably feeling more and more like a douche everyday that non Halladay pitchers are being acquired for some of the pieces he wanted.

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart

by Jbasic89 on Jul 29, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i am

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/rankings/organization-top-10-prospects/2009/267393.html

those guys were philly’s 2,3,4, and 10 prospects before the season

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by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Jul 29, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most Phillies fans...

…and I am one of them (need to have an AL and NL team!) were losing faith with Carrasco. Knapp could become a fire-breathing beast of a strikeout pitcher but he’s very young and lacks control (so who knows). Donald is most likely to be a .280 Jack Wilson, and Marson hasn’t played as well as the Phils expected in the last year. Long story short: Phils did well and didn’t have to give up Drabek or Happ. Playoff rotation: Hamels, Lee, Blanton and Happ. Not bad.

by Soderholm-er on Jul 29, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Donald would be hard-pressed to be Wilson

considering his stellar defense. I get what you’re saying, though. I think the Phils did well here, too.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 29, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The key there

is before the season . . . almost an entire season has gone by. They did not have to give up any of their top 3 prospects per BA’s midseason rankings . . . Knapp was in the top 50, but #4 for Philly.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 29, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not if the Red Sox over pay and it sounds like they might.

But yeah, he’s losing some leverage as teams fall out of it (Brewers somewhat), or make a trade for someone else like this.

If your the Dodgers though, and you see this, you might think you could really use Halladay now if you want to beat the Phillies in the playoffs.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 29, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dodgers don't really have the pieces

to trade for Halladay unless they move guys off their MLB roster.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 29, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TRADE MANNY!

Or Pierre. They cannot co-exist. The clubhouse is not big enough.

Heh.

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wanted to insure it was not taken as a serious comment.

Lots of youngsters on this site now.

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carrasco has lost some of his shine

but is still a VERY good pitching spec, I’ve always liked Marson,

I’m less familiar with Donald and Knapp, but as U-God points out, they’re both highly thought of as well.

by The Cheat on Jul 29, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

rosenthal calls it a coup for both sides

which doesn’t quite sound like it should be a usable phrase

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Jul 29, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

but after some thought, logically the phrase makes sense. U are ignoring the possibility of several parties (dictator1 and revolutionary1 + dictator2 and revolutionary2)

by No It All on Jul 29, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Phillies didn't give up one piece the Jays wanted

they could feasibly go after Halladay right now, but that would probably be somewhat counterproductive long-term.

What’s more, I think the Tribe could have gotten more for Lee in terms of value. Whatever, they’re in full sell mode.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 29, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Victor Martinez

Does this trade make it more or less likely they move Martinez? I assume they have some money left over now to keep him around, but if they are going young, I’d think they’d want to move him too.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 29, 2009 1:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the only way it matters to us is if Boston swoops in on VMart

which might leave the Riccardis without a match for Halladay, and maybe, just maybe, willing to part with him for a Beckham-less package.

Not bloody likely though

by The Cheat on Jul 29, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not as concerned where he goes if he gets moved, but for what.

Unless as you say, it’s a team like the Red Sox that leads to a move for the Sox.

I’m more concerned what they get for him, and if they would move him in general. We and our rivals that actually win games, do play the Indians a lot, so I just like to know what their roster will look like.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 29, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like Peavy.

He could’ve been the One to have pitched the rednecked Perfect Game, had he chosen to come over.

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i was actually thinking

i wonder whats going through jake peavy’s head right now after the perfect game

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart

by Jbasic89 on Jul 29, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

V-Mart's offense has been in free fall

I don’t know if I’d even want him right now.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 29, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hitting .180 since May

My fantasy team weeps.

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 29, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Felix Pie?

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Jul 29, 2009 1:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm in.

Pitching (check), Hitting (check), Defense (uh, no).

by ballyb on Jul 29, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, am in my own China here, so no ESPN/Fox.

Saw on SI that Wilson and Snell have been traded to the Mariners. I would have liked Snell. Did SEA give up a lot?

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 1:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Clement a lot?

can’t really play C or hit non-mistake pitches. Plus they threw in Cendeno and the entire Clinton pitching staff

by The Cheat on Jul 29, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was referring to the Clinton staff.

If they gave up bupkis, could we not have gotten Snell for one of our A catchers plus some other prospects? Looks like we didn’t want Snell.

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't recognize any of the names

Mayo and Goldstein both love the deal for the Pirates though, and if there are any two big-name prospect evaluators I trust it’s them.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 29, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just signed on to link to this article

here

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Jul 29, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TY.

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dave Cameron didn't like it

but I see no one of note given up.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Jul 29, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

which speaks to the value of Ian Snell . . . meh.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 29, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I woulda taken a shot.

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Following the getting-the-band-back-together theme....

the D-Backs are shopping Garland.

When the going gets weird the weird turn pro
- Hunter S. Thompson

by FearandLoathing on Jul 29, 2009 1:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No thanks.

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by winningugly on Jul 29, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't go that far

Garland’s got a 102 ERA+

I’d say he belongs on a major league roster…maybe not the Sox, but he belongs somewhere

by jeeves on Jul 29, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you're looking for starting pitching help

there are certainly way, way worse places to be finding it. he’s a legit backend starter. looking at what some teams are sending out there everyy fifth day, he can help quite a few teams.

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by larry on Jul 29, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stupid podsednik

at least he threw it in with his pff “lazer arm” WHy did we need Kotsay also, I don’t understand this trade at all, we have enough outfielders and we don’t needa 1st base backup

Carlos Guillen, the Latino Punto

by The_Fan on Jul 29, 2009 3:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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