White Sox Look To Add Significant Upgrade By Trade Deadline

by The Cheat on Jul 3, 2009 2:34 PM CDT Comment 124 comments

White Sox Record Since Carlos Quentin went on the DL: 21-14

White Sox Center Fielders

	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	K	AVG	OBP	SLG
Since 5/26	116	20	5	2	1	7	11	30	.172	.267	.276

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thats it? just a headline?

"It doesn't take long for a Rolls Royce to warm up." - Hawk Harrelson

by e-gus on Jul 3, 2009 2:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Do I got to spell it out for you?

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by The Cheat on Jul 3, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Clearly.

Flowers – who is apparently the motherfucking boogeyman of the southern league

by omnipotent grab on Jul 3, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like a little meat with my potatoes

thats all.

"It doesn't take long for a Rolls Royce to warm up." - Hawk Harrelson

by e-gus on Jul 3, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

awesome photo caption

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by boyonthedock on Jul 3, 2009 2:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Is it absolutely impossible to have Quentin, Pods, and JD in the outfield? I’d be fine with BA as a 4th option, with less at-bats. Who of the three (or two, rather, as JD doesn’t have the speed to play CF) would make the best shift over to center?

by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 3, 2009 2:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

you're asking whether the guy who will have been out for a couple months with a serious foot injury can play CF.

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by larry on Jul 3, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or Scott Podsednik. Yes, that would appear to be the question.

Hey larry, don’t bother answering or anything. If Quentin plays, he’s not playing because his injury isn’t healed.

by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 3, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

but do you really think he could play center?

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Jul 3, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not Quentin, no. But Pods has done fairly well in LF, save for one recent blunder.

If Pods and Quentin can only play the corners, then isn’t it likely that Pods goes in a trade with someone else to acquire a better CF? I’m just trying to figure out if we can simply move Pods to CF and avoid losing an improved, and still fast player.

by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 3, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

as the white sox and quentin themselves have said,

quentin isn’t going to be 100% when he returns. one usually isn’t with a chronic injury.

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by larry on Jul 3, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fine, then the answer the question "Who of the three (or two, rather, as JD doesn’t have the speed to play CF) would make the best shift over to center?" would apparently be Pods.

Now, larry, do you think that Pods being the best option necessarily makes Pods a good option?

by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 3, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you sure like asking questions with obvious answers.

now, black sox baseball, will the sun come up tomorrow or won’t it?

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by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Obvious answers?

My original question asked which player, out of Pods, JD, or Quentin, would make t he best CF. I wasn’t aware of the fact that the Sox were willing to play Quentin still hurt, considering a remark on SSS saying he might be shut down for the year. Apparently what is an obvious Sox question to you, an editor on a White Sox website, might not be obvious to others and may even lead to those others finding a thing or two out.

Now, with Pods being the best option of the three, as you so painstakingly revealed, all I know is that JD is slow, Quentin doesn’t want to get hurt, and Ozzie said Pods would never play CF. Considering these three things, I asked if moving Pods to CF would be a good option. Considering the very topic of this thread is the Sox making a big move before the trade deadline, perhaps it would be a BETTER move for the Sox to try and acquire someone else. Thus, moving Pods to CF might not be a good move when compared to picking someone else up. Now, while the answer to that may be obvious to you, others aren’t experts and would like to know.

And despite how likely it is that the sun will come up tomorrow, larry, I’d say it’s still more likely that you’ll be a pain to talk to or get any information from tomorrow.

by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 3, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Since when did Oz say Pods wouldn't play CF

Cause he said he would this morning, so wtf are you reading?

by Shakey on Jul 3, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why don't we just throw Thome out and Center Field?

Have Quentin DH.

by No Pressure on Jul 3, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

at*

by No Pressure on Jul 3, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

GOLD GLOVE

No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded. - Yogi Berra

by trademan56 on Jul 5, 2009 7:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

your original question was awful

it was like asking who out of the long relief man, the loogy, or the closer is most likely to get a spot start

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Jul 3, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That was my original question that larry chose to respond to.

If you go back to my post, the first question is “Is it absolutely impossible to have Quentin, Pods, and JD in the outfield?”

The question you’re referring to was a set-up question.

by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 3, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think your best coarse of action is to start drinking heavily

and forgot you ever posted that question

by Shakey on Jul 3, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

F, course.

by Shakey on Jul 3, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

even that question is pretty bad

you shouldn’t use phrases like “absolutely impossible” when referring to baseball players playing anywhere on the field. is it absolutely impossible that scott podsednik will turn into a bag of delicious carrots? no. we don’t dwell on absolutes. is it possible that he could play center while JD and Q! flank him? considering he has the best bat out of any of the other OF options and the fact that we were willing to trot griffey out in center with regularity last season even though he wasn’t really hitting i would say yes, and that it is a question that is fairly dumb.

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Jul 3, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

There we go.

Now that you answering my “dumb” question clearly displays that you think Pods could play CF with Quentin in LF and JD in RF, which was the purpose of the question (asking who would play where), I now ask my follow-up to you:

With Pods being the best option of the three, is it the best option for the club to keep Pods and let him play in CF rather than using him and perhaps some other player to instead try and pick up a better CF? I ask because OF is the topic of this thread and because upgrading in OF wasn’t an option before we had two good LF who would questionably convert into CF while already on a poor defensive team. I don’t remember what our record was with errors in games, but it surely wasn’t good.

by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 3, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it all depends on what is available and at what cost

i don’t see too many teams being thrilled enough with scott podsednik to give us anything that much better without kicking in one of our top 10 prospects as well.

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So the Sox are set, then.

Fair enough.

by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 3, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

wordy and overly verbose.

if the question you want answered is whether the sox should trade for a CF, why don’t you just start with asking that question instead of “set-up questions” that have obvious answers.

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by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Redundant and repetitive

I’ve gone over the whole “obvious” thing, but it’s irrelevant now because I’ve gotten all that I wanted.

by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 3, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Which was what?

A larry slap to the melon?

by Shakey on Jul 3, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think you should have just asked or stated

whether you thought Podsednik would move to CF. Maybe someone would have called you da man, but that’s about the worst of it. Concise is-a nice.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 3, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the obvious answer is ken griffey jr.

member of a "solid community of fans" and "a meathead."

by thecip on Jul 3, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Flowers – who is apparently the motherfucking boogeyman of the southern league

by omnipotent grab on Jul 3, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Quinten - CF?

he can’t even get out of bed without injuring something

by hoodlight on Jul 3, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

haha

or in some kind of anger hitting the ground with his bat and breaking his wrist

No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded. - Yogi Berra

by trademan56 on Jul 5, 2009 7:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

YES PODS IS THE BEST OPTION AT CF WHEN Q! COMES BACK

Jeez. Some people.

Is it still the fourth inning?

by vince_ on Jul 3, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dont ruin it.

I wanted BSB to keep going really irritate larry.

Flowers – who is apparently the motherfucking boogeyman of the southern league

by omnipotent grab on Jul 3, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

I didn’t get what the prob was

by Option27 on Jul 3, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

There are no stupid questions

Just stupid people.

by Shakey on Jul 3, 2009 3:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yes.

Flowers – who is apparently the motherfucking boogeyman of the southern league

by omnipotent grab on Jul 3, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

twins-tiggers tonight, who ya got?

I think I am gonna have to go with slowey over french tonight, and i’d see the twins take these games as well.

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by boyonthedock on Jul 3, 2009 3:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Lets say Q! comes back in tip top shape before the deadline.

Who would be a better 3rd baseman, Paul Konerko or Jermaine Dye?

I say we sign the LSU wideout and put him on the Ryan Zimmerman career path right into the bigs, get him 58 ABs(same as Zimmerman in ’05, exactly 1/2 the CF line) and see if his #s are better than that line up top there by our CFs.

Pods moving to center wouldn’t be the end of the world(well maybe it would be, that may be one of the parameters of his deal with Satan) because he takes bad routes and has a girlish arm, but his speed does cover a lot of ground.

"It doesn't take long for a Rolls Royce to warm up." - Hawk Harrelson

by e-gus on Jul 3, 2009 3:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'd say Jeff Cox at 3rd. He'd have the shortest number of steps to his new position.

Plus, have you seen him snag those liners at his belly? He’s like a skinny Butterbean.

by Shakey on Jul 3, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

There are two things Jeff Cox is good at

eating, and eating

by 3E8 on Jul 3, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

dye for rowand and ooribe

problem solved.

GET ON THE PHONE, KENNY

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by thecip on Jul 3, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thatsn the new breed of cneter fielders

fast but don’t have the lazer arm they used too

No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded. - Yogi Berra

by trademan56 on Jul 5, 2009 7:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Peavy!

Nah I’m kidding

¡signature!

by billyok on Jul 3, 2009 3:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

electric boogaloo

member of a "solid community of fans" and "a meathead."

by thecip on Jul 3, 2009 3:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Palin resigning

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090703/ap_on_re_us/us_palin_resigning

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by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Jul 3, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i love quitters.

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by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

in shame?

what am i saying. the woman lacks the sense.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Jul 3, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was going to say

I think we’re a long way past the shame exit

by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 3, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thats awesome haha.

Flowers – who is apparently the motherfucking boogeyman of the southern league

by omnipotent grab on Jul 3, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What a go-getter

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 3, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We'll always have "You Betcha"

¡signature!

by billyok on Jul 3, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"I can see Russia from my back yard!"

No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded. - Yogi Berra

by trademan56 on Jul 5, 2009 7:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think she's just destroyed any chances she had at getting the GOP nomination in '12

Her primary opponents will be able to trot out the “quitter” line (“When America is facing tough times, the last thing it needs is a quitter”) and she just purposefully thinned her already-thin resume.

Whatever your politics, can we all agree that Obama continues to be really lucky when it comes to political opponents? Ensign, Sanford, now Palin – all potential ’12 opponents and all shooting themselves in the foot.

Is it still the fourth inning?

by vince_ on Jul 3, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and i apologize if this crosses the line of "no political talk" on SSS

but I don’t think I’m really saying anything particularly partisan here.

Is it still the fourth inning?

by vince_ on Jul 3, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not if she is planning a Senate run in 2010.

by joewho112 on Jul 3, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and lose her outsider status? doubtful.

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by larry on Jul 3, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But it is very mavericky

by joewho112 on Jul 3, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Quentin Begins Rehab Assignment

White Sox slugger Carlos Quentin left his teammates Friday to start a minor league rehabilitation assignment.

Quentin’s destination wasn’t revealed yet, but his locker stall at Kauffman Stadium was empty.

Link

by DirtySox on Jul 3, 2009 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

nobody knows (for sure) the location of Superman's fortress of solitude

coincidence, I think not.

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by The Cheat on Jul 3, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Mr. Superman no home

No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded. - Yogi Berra

by trademan56 on Jul 5, 2009 7:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the barons have been scuffling.

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by larry on Jul 3, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tends to happen when you lose 3 of your 4 best players

Sorry, CJ

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by The Cheat on Jul 3, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Christmas in July?

Is it still the fourth inning?

by vince_ on Jul 3, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry, make that Q-mas in July

Is it still the fourth inning?

by vince_ on Jul 3, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh BA I used have such a soft spot in my heart for you

but alas, its gone.

"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach

by Tdogg on Jul 3, 2009 4:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, my feelings as well

I don’t however think the Sox should trade him as per Cowley because he’s still the best backup OF they have…and also, it’s not like he would net anything in a trade.

by hitlesswonder on Jul 3, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm against a trade

He doesn’t have much value and we’ve got two injury-prone outfielders (Q and Pods) who could go down at any time.

Is it still the fourth inning?

by vince_ on Jul 3, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh Tdogg.... you make some fantastic Kool-aid.

Mind if I have some of it….. Nothing like a 7 game win streak to turn thoughts around… I remember being at the group outing and talking with u-god about how pods being back wasn’t a good thing… now we can’t take his bat out of the lineup.

pods played cf with the brewers…. dye and quentin…. in center… wow… i can’t believe some of the shit i read on here these days… The old larry would have made black sox baseball into his bitch… damn company man now… doesn’t dish it like he used to….

In my first real night off in 8 weeks, i expected more of Tdogg’s Kool-Aid…. Happy thoughts on our team… the pitching staff cutting down on walks, runs, hits, um well everything… the savior raising his batting average all the way up to .264

I am going to enjoy some freedom beers before america’s birthday and be happy that we are on a 7 game win streak.

It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.

They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.

by ElDiablo on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sox at KC: pods7, nix6, jd9, thome dh, pk3, aj2, getz4, beckham5, wise8. Danks pitching.

lineup in

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 3, 2009 4:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

more interesting Tweet from Will Carroll

Giants and White Sox want to make deal quick. Williams always bold, but Sabean?

I don’t see a fit. But I’ve been known to miss some things

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by The Cheat on Jul 3, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Uribe returning?!?

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 3, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

why? can he play CF?

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by The Cheat on Jul 3, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he can do it all

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 3, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

With the right equipment he can.

Flowers – who is apparently the motherfucking boogeyman of the southern league

by omnipotent grab on Jul 3, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs

Kenny better not destroy the 2005 Bay Area reunion tour

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 3, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fields and Richard

for Lincecum

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 3, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

id would actually blow my load

if such a thing were to EVER happen. never will it ever.

I just accidentally the Fleshlight.
Accidentally what?
THE WHOLE THING!!

by BoeJouma on Jul 3, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

throw in getz - they might even think about it

by hoodlight on Jul 3, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

seriously though

they actually might do it considering they dealt Liriano, Nathan, and Bonser for Pierzynski

No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded. - Yogi Berra

by trademan56 on Jul 5, 2009 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

trade poreda and hudson for pablo sandoval. sandoval plays third. beckham plays second.

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by larry on Jul 3, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Updating

Not saying Giants and ChiSox will deal with each other. Just that both are out looking to make a good deal.

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by The Cheat on Jul 3, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No, that's totally irrelevant, we don't need that clarification at all

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 3, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

140 characters is a bitch

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by larry on Jul 3, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

gosh, what an asshole.

Just [expletive] Fuck It.

by homesickalien on Jul 3, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anderson for Rowand

lets take a mulligan

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 3, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

why bump bacon down?

I just accidentally the Fleshlight.
Accidentally what?
THE WHOLE THING!!

by BoeJouma on Jul 3, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sitting Ramirez two days in a row

Is Alexei hurt or is Ozzie punishing him?

by joewho112 on Jul 3, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

sore finger

been trying too hard with his mrs

by hoodlight on Jul 3, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Maybe a trade for Johnathan Sanchez.

He has been pretty sucktacular this year.

by No Pressure on Jul 3, 2009 4:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

cowley

Quentin is off to Charlotte. Will play 3 innings tomorrow, 5 the next day, DH and then day off.

I just accidentally the Fleshlight.
Accidentally what?
THE WHOLE THING!!

by BoeJouma on Jul 3, 2009 5:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Rest is supposed to be on the seventh day.

Go Sox!

by luzinski on Jul 3, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

nothing like a transfer rumour

to get everyone excited, bit like getting a new bird. But the grass is always greener on the other side

by hoodlight on Jul 3, 2009 5:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

what is the line up tonight my old pals?

by hoodlight on Jul 3, 2009 5:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

one could scroll up for that sort of thing i think!

:-)

I just accidentally the Fleshlight.
Accidentally what?
THE WHOLE THING!!

by BoeJouma on Jul 3, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I go to the end of the postings

I can’t be arsed reading everything that’s posted on here

by hoodlight on Jul 3, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I scrolled up and can't find it

can you post it again for me

regards

by hoodlight on Jul 3, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gary McKinnon

no you lot can’t fucking have him, it’s not fair, just because your computers are rubbish and a mentally ill english man can hack into them, if he’s done wrong he should be tried here, in our green and pleasant land

by hoodlight on Jul 3, 2009 6:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Who is Gary McKinnon?

Is it still the fourth inning?

by vince_ on Jul 3, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you don't know!!

he is destroying uk us relations because of your heavy handed bully boy tactics

http://freegary.org.uk/

by hoodlight on Jul 3, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time

I haven’t seen any evidence anywhere that people with aspberger’s have difficulty understanding the law, and even if prosecutors may be overreacting, the military doesn’t look too kindly on people hacking into their computers.

Is it still the fourth inning?

by vince_ on Jul 3, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

bollocks

he should be tried here, why extradite him?

by hoodlight on Jul 3, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Aren't crimes usually tried where the victim was?

i.e. if you run an internet scam from Belarus against someone in the US, would the crime be in US jurisdiction?

by joewho112 on Jul 3, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Allen fucking Stanford

has ripped off thousands of people here, what do you think the chances are we will see him at the Old Bailey? I’ll tell you, it’s somewhere around the fuck all mark, which is around the same number of extraditions to other countries of US citizens suspected of carrying out crimes in the UK.

by hoodlight on Jul 3, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Apples and oranges

The US isn’t refusing to prosecute Allen Stanford and in fact has been charged on multiple counts of fraud, etc. But reading the wikipedia entry on McKinnon it sounds like the UK refused to charge him. So you had your chance.

Is it still the fourth inning?

by vince_ on Jul 3, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Has the UK charge Stanford with a crime?

by joewho112 on Jul 3, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes

by hoodlight on Jul 3, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do you have a source?

I just search UK charges allen stanford and got nothing

by joewho112 on Jul 3, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he's been charged with

‘heinous crimes against Cricket’ – much like Baseball cricket was a game that God invented on one of his better days

by hoodlight on Jul 3, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What's the difference?

We’re not talking about a capital case here. While I understand the concern that the previous administration might have done something silly like try to throw him in Guantanamo, the current administration is having enough trouble figuring out what to do with the people already there and sure as hell isn’t looking to add any more!

Heck he could probably just cop a plea and get a few years in a minimal security federal country club.

Basically this sounds like the UK is getting its panties in a bunch about what – some idiot who hacked into some computers he shouldn’t have? Is this guy getting extradited really going to threaten the foundation of the mighty British Empire?

Lemme put it this way – if the situation were reversed and some dude here hacked into British military websites and the UK wanted him extradited, I doubt most people would give a crap.

Is it still the fourth inning?

by vince_ on Jul 3, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

our military computer systems are encrypted with keys

the people who should be on trial are the knobheads who allowed such lax security in the first place

by hoodlight on Jul 3, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If I leave my door unlocked and you steal my laptop

It’s still theft.

Sure whoever secured those systems is an idiot, but that doesn’t excuse the behavior and I doubt would be a very effective defense in court.

Is it still the fourth inning?

by vince_ on Jul 3, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't want your laptop

i bet it’s full of scat anyway

by hoodlight on Jul 3, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

Is it still the fourth inning?

by vince_ on Jul 3, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

being serious

Human beings are not parcels to be bundled off around the world to jurisdictions where they have little support and no influence over the law or legal system

by hoodlight on Jul 3, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

then don't sign an extradition treaty

Sorry but somehow trying to pin the blame on the US for exercising their rights under an existing extradition treaty is just stupid.

Is it still the fourth inning?

by vince_ on Jul 3, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ok you beat me

he’s a wanker anyway – electric chair or lethal injection?

by hoodlight on Jul 3, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Public hanging

Old school

Is it still the fourth inning?

by vince_ on Jul 3, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

or watch that video from the ring

Mannequin

No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded. - Yogi Berra

by trademan56 on Jul 5, 2009 7:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gary McKinnon is a Scot, accused of the computer hacking of US military Web sites, and under threat of extradition to the US to stand trial. He has thus far been unsuccessful in fighting extradition, under the current extradition treaty between the UK and the US, seen by many as one-sided.

Gary’s mother Janis Sharp is organising a ‘sing-in’ protest on Thursday 2nd April, involving a multi-artist rendition of Graham Nash’s ‘Chicago’, which originally referenced the ‘Chicago 7’, arrested for protesting at the 1968 Democratic Convention. David has contributed a vocal part to the backing track, although plans are not yet finalised re: other artists’ involvement.

by hoodlight on Jul 3, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs