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Mark Buehrle is the lone representative of the White Sox.

Curiously, Curtis Granderson made it over Jermaine Dye - despite much better numbers for JD.

JD's average is .291 to CG's .255
JD's slugging % is .562 to CG's .468
JD's OPS is .925 to CG's .807
JD has one more homer and 13 doubles to Granderson's 9. Plus JD has 12 less strike outs.

I don't get it.

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Scottie Pods isn't on the Final Vote ballot, either.

I thought he deserved a shot in there.

"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT

by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 5, 2009 1:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This just shows why

All-Star voting doesn’t work. The popular players, not the deserving ones, are voted in.

"Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them."

by Cruiser on Jul 5, 2009 2:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

have you ever seen a vote taken where someone didn't complain that it didn't work?

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by larry on Jul 5, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they'd have a good case on this matter.

The numbers don’t lie.

"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT

by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 5, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Other than Hamilton,

the fans dida decent job.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 5, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT

by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 6, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There should be riots in the streets of Chicago for this travesty!

But seriously, what’s the deal? Joe Morgan was complaining about Dye not being an All Star on ESPN last night. I get the sinking feeling that the NL is finally going to win this year.

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 6, 2009 9:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Right

nice selection of stats . . . because # of doubles is so important. Maybe you should include position, defense, SB . . . you know the areas where Dye lacks significantly and where Granderson excels in comparison.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 6, 2009 10:48 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jermaine Dye is slow, how good of you to mention.

When he’s got Granderson’s average beat by 40 points, I’d rather see him in the box than a guy who might be able to steal against the NL’s best if he can get on base. It’s the All-Star game, pinch-running for JD after a base hit is far from a crime.

"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT

by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 6, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whether selected or not,

dye wouldn’t be playing.

and granderson has been approximately a full win more valuable than dye.

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by larry on Jul 6, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or maybe Dye should just pinch hit for Granderson after

he is done playing. That might make more sense.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Jul 6, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dye is not one of the top 3 RFs

Granderson is one of the top 3 CFs.

Comparing the two doesn’t make sense.

by joewho112 on Jul 6, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That makes no sense,either.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 6, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On an All-Star ballot, they'd both be listed only as OFs.

"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT

by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 6, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is why it makes no sense.

Thank you for clarifying “why”, BSB.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 6, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Regardless of how they are listed on the ballot

Which position they play, dramatically affects their value. If the idea is to put the best players at each position on the team, then taking into account whether a player is a centerfielder or rightfielder is appropriate.

If they are all listed as OFs on the ballot, I would view that as an issue with the ballot.

If you want to put the eight or nine best hitting OFs, regardless of defense on the field, then yes, Dye should be there over Granderson. (On a side note, did I use my commas correctly in that last sentence? It looks brutal)

by joewho112 on Jul 6, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The problem is that's not the idea of the All-Star game.

I think voters are more concerned with offensive production over defensive value when it comes time to filling out the ballot. While I agree that it gets awkward when a manager has to decide which RF to shift into CF during the game, I don’t see how it can be prevented as, again, the idea is to get the best stars (who are normally defined by their offensive production) out there.

"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT

by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 7, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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