White Sox Acquire Tony Pena (RHP) from Arizona in Exchange for Brandon Allen
The Diamondbacks traded right-hander Tony Pena to the Chicago White Sox in exchange for minor league infielder Brandon Allen.
Allen, 23, has split time this season between Doulbe-A Birmingham and Triple-A Charlotte, combining to hit .281 (85-for-302) with 16 doubles, three triples, eight home runs and 43 RBI. Over his six-year career, he has hit a combined .259 (545-for-2,101) with 124 doubles, 19 triples, 84 home runs and 344 RBI in 569 games.
Pena was 5-3 with a 4.24 ERA (16 ER in 34.0 IP) in 37 games with the D-backs this season. He was 16-13 with a 4.08 ERA (101 ER in 222.2 IP) in 209 career games with Arizona. Pena finishes his D-backs career with a franchise-record 63 holds.
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what do you mean
it’s the annual trade with arizona.
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We've been cunningham'd
somebody call the Fonz and get us out of this
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by The Cheat on Jul 7, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
doesn't count.
KW was sure that someone named tony pena would have a connection to the royals organization.
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He's a good pitcher
No doubt about that. But Brandon Allen straight up for a fucking reliever?
He's good?
1.53 WHIP this season and ERA of 4.24 and his career ERA is over 4. As a reliever.
by hitlesswonder on Jul 7, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
we are talking about a 1B/DH prospect with some question marks.
but, yeah, i would have thought you could get more.
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So does this mean:
Someone to the DL?
Gobble to somewhere else?
Poreda or Carassco to rotation?
Another trade?
Very strange trade. Damn it, Kenny.
by hitlesswonder on Jul 7, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
if it rids us of Gobble,
its good for the team.
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
I was heckling Gobble last night -
I didn’t know that he was to be DFA’d. I feel bad now.
Viciedo moves to 1B asap?
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
by Chiburb on Jul 7, 2009 7:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Why more... we already have Fields - he can K at just as a good rate as Allen
Remember when "Cuban Pride" meant something...
boo.
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
WTF?
Allen seems like a lot to give up for a fairly bad middle reliever.
Maybe Kenny was feeling bad about how the Vazquez for Young trade turned out for AZ and felt he had to equalize things.
I really wanted to see the new BA...
Fast, athletic, Big target…+ Defense.
Dat Gum it.
No sir, I don't like it.
Not one bit.
…but if it works out, then…Happy Happy Joy Joy Happy Happy Joy Joy Happy Happy Joy Joy Happy Happy Joy Joy Happy Happy Joy Joy Happy Happy Joy Joy Happy Happy Happy Happy Joy!
...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT
my best guess
They are thinking either Flowers or Viciedo wont stick at their respective positions and will be moved to 1b.
Also, Allen hasnt been as good since his promotion.
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
there are always possibilities for 1B.
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But Fields especially.
Surely you concur
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 7, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Fields bat wasn't good enough for 3B
He is not an option at 1B unless the goal is a bad team.
by hitlesswonder on Jul 7, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Out of the hitting prospects, Allen getting dealt seemed to make the most sense
but yeah, this is a very wtf-type return.
In what sense?
He seemed to be on the perfect timeline to take over at 1st from Konerko.
so is viciedo.
so is flowers. so is marrero. so is…
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Blind pig, acorn.
I show up every now and again.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
Do you think I read what you write?
I get up too early for that.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
I remember no encounter.
Someone was writing as me. I know nothing about a 27 y/o “peak”.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
So what do we get for winning the pool re: Allen's departure?
This surely is not the last deal. But at least we know – KW’s not selling.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
Maybe Don Cooper knows something
The man has magic techniques that far outstrip my feeble understanding
¡signature!
Pena has 95+ gas and his K rate should be better than it is according to his contact rate.
aside from that…yeah. i would have thought you could have him for a song. i’m sure it’s beyond hope that he becomes a starter.
THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY
You were seriously considering it as a possibility?
Surely you jest.
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 7, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
So he does have good stuff -- at least that's encouraging
I looked at the k-rate and was disappointed — he’s never been above seven-per-nine in his career. He just seems pretty redundant, what with Jenks, Dotel and Linebrink… maybe a prelude to a Jenks deal?
Converting him to closer and
bye, bye Bobby.
Time to show Walker and Dotel the door.
Those Sox -
always thinking ahead. Smart guys. Really.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
just looking at his fangraphs
i don’t know why he couldn’t be a starter. low walk rate, a big fastball and supposedly three pitches.
THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY
Or after Richard and Poreda are gone.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
by Chiburb on Jul 7, 2009 7:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It was covered in great length
in a previous thread.
by Off the bus running on Jul 7, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
he's a fat alcoholic with a cyborg elbow?
or some mixture of that. Anyway, why doesn’t every reliever start? Because they’re better as relievers, usually.
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 7, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Speaking of Marquez...
another stellar start by him tonight.
2 IP, 9 H, 7 R, 1 BB, 2 K, 1 HR.
He’s got what it takes to win in Comiskey Park.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jul 7, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Marquez is bullshit.
He’s so much worse than Broadway or Egbert or Masset.
THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY
/half head-turn+glare
/readjusts bib
kids.
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 7, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
From BP:
2008: “Along with Doug Slaten, Pena was the NL West champions’ cleaner, the guy who inherited ugly situations and fixed them. That was all the more impressive given how close he was to not even having a career under his pre-Age-gate nomme de mound, Adriano Rosario. Is it ironic given the other Tony Pena’s running around out there, that this one’s found a home in the equally nondescript realm of middle relief only after reverting to that name? If so, the irony might not last; Pena’s hard heat and solid slider make him the best closer candidate of all of the guys who were knocking around in front of Jose Valverde before the closer was dealt to Houston.”
2009: “Pena became a different pitcher in 2008, reducing his walk rate dramatically while also giving up many more hits. The problem? His once-excellent fastball dropped to the 90-93 mph range. He tinkered with his mechanics throughout the season, delivering occasional spurts of dominance, but overall his season left most scratching their heads about a guy who once looked like he might be the answer at closer, but clearly wasn’t, last year.”
He’s also only 27. I’m ok with this.
by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 7, 2009 8:07 PM CDT reply actions
In Coop we trust.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 7, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
How are you settling in, BTW?
Since you don’t respond to e-mails any more.
(Wait, that sounded like your Dad. Strike that.)
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
Not too well. I don't remember an email recently.......?
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 7, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
From 2 weeks ago? Your reply to my email? Shit dude...typically if I don't have the chance to respond right away, I forget about it. 'specially in that account....
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 7, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't harangue you like the old man.
I just figure you are busy. And selfish. ;0
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
Agree with your last stmt,
though I bet Cheat’s not happy. He’s been tracking Allen for a long time.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
another fixer uper
Wave that flag.... Wave it wide and high.. Summertime... Done come and gone, My oh my
Jon Heyman . .
dbacks love brandon allen, a lefthanded slugger. they can see him as their 1B next year.
Pena
is dotel 2.0
the moment i saw this trade i thought how pena is just dotel’s replacement next season as the RHP 7th or 8th inning man. coupled with the fact he is making 430k this season and is arb eligible until 2012.
and i agree with everyone else – just expected more for allen at this point.
I just remembered
I drafted Allen in the BTBS league to limit the team ABs. Those douchenozzles better not call him up.
good sweet jesus
that is the worst trade i’ve witnessed in my 30 years as a sox fan. there has to be more to the story.
i mean at the time of the trade....
not in retrospect. but, yes, that ritchie deal was pretty shitty even at the time.
This is true.
I have faith that Goggles will come back strong.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jul 7, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
c'mon, isn't this what we say every time?
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 7, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
It’s still fun to piss and moan, then 75% of the time in a year have to eat shit.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
seems like there's an endless tunnel of this
not that I mind
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 7, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Depends on how entertaining the vitriol is.
Tonight, not so much.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
a shitty trade both times!
but this one is senseless IMO.
And that one was......sensical somehow?
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 7, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Goggles!
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 7, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I knew we'd have to give up prospects to help upgrade the team
But did we need a reliever? THAT kind of reliever?
Did we need to give up Brandon Allen? He looked like a sure replacement of Konerko.
On the other hand, Pena looks fairly consistent, and Allen has a lot of question marks. There’s no guarantee with him.
Pena has terrible, terrible
RHB / LHB splits.
Time to show Walker and Dotel the door.
did you see KW
in the press again, complaining about attendance. blaming fans for not being able to make a trade.
from where is it again that a business is supposed to get its money?
oh. that’s right. from customers. it doesn’t just magically appear in their bank accounts.
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Sponsors/advertising.
MLB revenue-sharing. Etc. You’re better than that.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
gosh, and what is that related to?
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Please.
He specifically referenced attendance for the LA series.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
and by that you mean the author of that article specifically included that part of his interview with KW and excluded others.
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Sorry, you don't win this one:
“Well, if I’m being completely honest money is more of the issue now. We expected a little more support than we’ve gotten,” he said. “I think it’s a reflection upon the economy of what’s kind of happened with regards to attendance and I don’t know if we’ve played consistent enough, or been exciting enough for people to get behind us. We’re still hopeful.”
That’s spin. “Support”? From Bud Selig, perhaps? Other GM’s?
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
he was asked about attendance. he answered. it's KW. that's what he does.
ask a white sox exec about corporate sponsorships and mlb revenue-sharing – wow, those sure are sexy topics! i’m sure that will draw readers to an article and make them want to post and whine about! – and you’ll get an answer about that. see, e.g., our various recaps of bloggers night.
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they just let Ben Gordon walk out like a 17-year-old father
all we had to offer were our desperate pleas. Not that I know anything about JR’s financial situation.
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 7, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
It's reasonable to comment on attendance
Agreed. Just saying it like it is.
Though in referencing the Dodger series, he honestly should comment on the premium ticket prices. That was the unspoken (at least from the article) thought and the real issue for that specific series. Too bad too, the ’59 team reunion and retrospective was a nice thing to do.
ask someone and they'll answer. some reporters do more complete work than others.
Weather was not an issue on any of those days, and the crowds weren’t hampered by school still being in session. So, what was the issue leading to the relatively low turnout?
Brooks Boyer, the White Sox vice president and chief marketing officer, quickly pointed to the problem.
“We overpriced it. That was the major thing,” Boyer told MLB.com. "We set the prices in October. We looked at the series and said that it’s a quality-quality opponent in town and one that is not in town all that often. They also have a drawing superstar.
“But we set those in October. The economy has worsened since then, when we priced it. You get to this series, and where are people going to spend money? They are going to spend it (the following) weekend, for the Crosstown series (with the Cubs). We simply overpriced the tickets. We made a mistake in October of last year.”
more at the link
http://scottmerkin.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/07/support_your_local_team.html
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I think this trade really opens up the door for Jermaine Dye and Scott Podsednik
I figured Dye would not have his mutual option picked up after this season. Now I think he might be our DH next year while Q! makes the move to right and Pods will be in left.
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