Tony Pena is Octavio Dotel's Successor
In a post that was written only in my head during yesterday's off-day, I was trying to figure out where the most obvious, cost-effective areas would be for the White Sox to acquire talent as the trade deadline approached. They've got (or previously had) 4 obvious holes; third base (now covered by Beckham), second base (starting to figure things out with a platoon of Getz/Nix), center field (to be filled by Pods when Quentin comes back) and 5th starter (waiting for Richard/Poreda to figure things out). In each instance I seemingly talked myself out of pursuing an upgrade as I just wasn't imaginative enough to come up with realistic cost-effective solutions.
There was, however, one more area I could envision the Sox upgrading at what I imagined wouldn't be such a talent-cost burden; the bullpen, specifically another right-hander. I wasn't going to bother wading through possible trade targets -- there are just too damn many potential targets -- but in my mind, I was thinking about the David Riske deal of a few years back.
Enter Tony Pena in the White Sox annual trade with the Diamondbacks.
Pena is an Octavio Dotel-type fastball-slider pitcher, though he's never had a Dotelian ability to miss bats. His mid-90's fastball has helped induce groundballs at a much higher rate than Dotel, however. He's shown flashes of greatness, and at one point appeared to be Arizona's closer of the future. In fact, just this year, he had a 1.85 ERA, good component ratios, and held opponents to a .626 OPS through the season's first two months (a span of 24 appearances). But since June 1, he's been terrible, allowing 18 hits over his last 9.2 innings, good for a 1.038 OPS allowed and 10.24 ERA.
I can't see any major difference in his pitch f/x data since then, so I'm not really sure what to make of the recent ugliness aside from your usual reliever volatility. I'm not quite sure how to feel about the notion of the Sox scouting him during that stretch. On one hand, it could be a Matt Thornton type situation, where Don Cooper and the Sox scouting staff sees something that the Snakes don't, on the other ... Nick Masset.
Pena will be arbitration-eligible next year, which puts him under White Sox control through the '12 season, so this isn't a 1-year Riske-type hired gun acquisition. No, Pena is here to lighten the load on Linebrink, who has lost effectiveness in back-to-back days, and slide into the Dotel role as he probably moves on as a free agent this off-season.
Through that prism, I love the acquisition of Tony Pena. He's a live-armed middle reliever with some potential to work high-leverage situations, and he's not a one-and-done mercenary. But, and this is a significant but, why did it have to cost Brandon Allen?
Colin and I disagreed a bit about Allen's expendability just a couple of weeks ago. I wasn't willing to pencil Allen into the Sox opening day lineup for next year, but I had his ETA pegged for mid-season '10, with him taking over full time for Konerko-Thome in '11. I couldn't see the Sox moving him because it would seem to point them in the direction of staying old-and-slow at 1B/DH in the not-too-distant future. The Sox obviously have different ideas.
It's not like Allen was without his faults. It wasn't until a breakout campaign last year that I started paying attention to him again, and even then it was really only when he began tearing up AA. He didn't have the strike zone control of future major leaguer at the lower levels, though he has improved on that significantly in the last two seasons. For me, the bigger question is what happened to his power? His ISO has dipped to its lowest since he first hit full-season ball, and has struggled in his very short stint at AAA thus far.
It's for those reasons that I could probably very easily be convinced that trading Allen was the right move. I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around moving him in a deal for what seemed to be the Sox 5th most pressing need, even if I do like the guy we got.
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shoulda built a package around him for Dan Haren
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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 7, 2009 9:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is the Phil Rogers logic that he uses to bitch that the Sox didn't put Brian Anderson in the first Vazquez trade
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by The Cheat on Jul 7, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, that trade is looking better, isn't it?
Vazquez is excellent this year and Young very not so much. Granted, Vazquez isn’t on the Sox anymore but he gave the Sox a lot of good innings. And there’s a chance Flowers value ends up on par with Young’s.
Of course if Allen being traded is a prelude to Flowers moving to 1B, that’s unfortunate. Anyway, now that I’ve crossed the Vazquez trade off the negative side of Williams ledger he goes and does this. Hmmm.
by hitlesswonder on Jul 7, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually I was thinking that AZ had Tony Clark playing first base semi regularly ...
and they are out of it and probably will trade Haren. I have heard good things about Allen and thought maybe we could send Allen and a couple prospects to arizona for Haren.
I thought about this on Sunday when Haren was selected to the all star game.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 7, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have been happy with Allen and others for Haren.
Sucks that we traded him for someone of lesser value.
Flowers – who is apparently the motherfucking boogeyman of the southern league
by omnipotent grab on Jul 7, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're right, we should have gone for the ace
we chose the middle reliever instead, though, and we’re going to have to deal wit it
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 7, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This package for Haren
would have included what?
Time to show Walker and Dotel the door.
by ballyb on Jul 7, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Allen and a coupon for $2 off a 16" pizza
but KW was too dumb to use the coupon
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by The Cheat on Jul 7, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that coupon
is the team’s post-game spread for the next week.
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 7, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
be careful. you keep trying to channel rogers and you might end up getting plaschke'd.
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by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2009 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking Allen, Poreda and a low level prospect
maybe i am on crack. i don’t know. just an idea. I was disappointed when i heard we traded him and all we got was Pena
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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 7, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crackhead.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 8, 2009 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
definitely on crack
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
by e-gus on Jul 8, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew rhythm had been dealing to SSS.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 8, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"maybe"?
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by The Wizard on Jul 9, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know people have been talking about this but,
What will this do to Poreda’s already spotty playing time…?
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They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by ElDiablo on Jul 8, 2009 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ohh
so I just read this entire post, and it wasn’t until halfway thru it that I realized this deal actually happened.
by shaftr on Jul 7, 2009 9:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I ain't no reporter...
I ain’t bound by no inverted triangle…besides there was already a thread that made it clear ;)
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by The Cheat on Jul 7, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a good honest blogger, ma'am
don’t know none of that Hollywood stuff
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 7, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, I'm not complaining about the writing
I was just out all night and came home and was reading the first story.
by shaftr on Jul 7, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hooray he's gone.
this isn’t a Swisher situation, so presumably this is Allen’s actual worth? jeez. he was a borderline top 100 prospect coming into the season. i find it a bit hard to believe the Sox couldn’t have sold him before his value sank this low. or something. i r confuzd.
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by colintj on Jul 7, 2009 10:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm with you michigan man
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 8, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct me or insult me if this is dumb.....
But, the Sox already have a ton of money tied up in another 1B/DH prospect (Viciedo). I know from the minor league reports Allen was tearing it up, but is his potential any greater at this point than Dayan?
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by Ozzie Montana on Jul 7, 2009 10:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, maybe
Viciedo has been pretty bad in AA. Low average, no power, no BBs, and bad defense. Allen was very good in AA. Viciedo is younger, but that’s it. A bunch of other guys are younger than Allen won’t be as good at baseball as Allen currently. Right now Viciedo might very well be one of them.
by hitlesswonder on Jul 7, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
brandon allen at age 20 in A ball.
.213/.257/.380.
low average, no power, no BBs and bad defense.
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by larry on Jul 7, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As much as I joke
I don’t feel safe referencing Viciedo’s age so carelessly
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 7, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, but since then Allen has done stuff that Viciedo has not
Now, Viciedo might very well go on to do those things too or eclipse, but he hasn’t yet and I have no way of evaluating the likelihood of him doing so. Obviously, the Sox scouts have a much better idea than me, but on the other hand we did see the recent post from a scout about being unimpressed with Viciedo.
Anyway, is Allen’s potential greater? He’s more athletic and he’s hit in the minors. Viciedo is younger. Obviously the Sox think they have someone that makes Allen expendable, but I’m not sure that it’s Viciedo.
by hitlesswonder on Jul 7, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd consider it fairly obvious that viciedo's potential is greater.
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by larry on Jul 7, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And regardless of whether or not it is,
they already tied a boatload of money to Viciedo. So, there it is.
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by RWShow on Jul 7, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think you can disregard the money
considering that rather speaks to what they think his potential is.
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by larry on Jul 7, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how did you take that recent scouting report?
disconcerting a bit, non?
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by colintj on Jul 7, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
considering i heard goldstein provide a scouting report from presumably another scout that was the opposite on about each point.
i don’t really put a whole lot of stock into one scout’s opinion.
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by larry on Jul 7, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn’t matter if we had someone else to play 1B. That’s irrelevant. All that matters is if we got fair value for Allen.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 7, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he wasn't really tearing it up.
and no. he’s a 1B/DH type whose ceiling is probably average at those positions.
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by larry on Jul 7, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does this open the door for JD to DH next yeat
They were probably killing two birds with one stone. Make room for someone. JD? Quentin? Fields? Hah
by Shakey on Jul 7, 2009 10:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
allen's ETA was mid next season anyway, at best.
i don’t think this changes the plans for next season.
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by larry on Jul 7, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gobble DFA'd after the game to make room for Pena
move was so obvious, I didn’t bother to mention the roster implications in the post
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by The Cheat on Jul 7, 2009 10:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well, it's a nice bullpen now
Jenks / Pena / Dotel / Linebrink / Carrasco / Poreda
by shaftr on Jul 7, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
...thornton
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by larry on Jul 7, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who? never heard of him.
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by MarketMaker on Jul 7, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Late night.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 8, 2009 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
jenks/thornton/dotel/pena/liney/carrasco/poreda
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 8, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what? now this trade makes no sense. how are they gonna give up on gobble now?
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by MarketMaker on Jul 7, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
now that the sox aren't likely to be going with an 11 man staff (ha!)
the writing is on the wall for some outfielder.
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by larry on Jul 7, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, as bad as they've both been, anderson is a righty and the better defender. seems like that would make wise the odd man out.
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by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2009 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At one point, I cared quite a bit which one was up.
I no longer do. BA is extremely unpalatable when his defense isn’t mind-blowingly awesome, and he continues to look pitcher-esque at the plate.
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by RWShow on Jul 8, 2009 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wise is out of options, BA isn't I believe
by hitlesswonder on Jul 8, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nevermind
I was going to make a 2005 comment and liken Wise to Timo (average to below average defending left handed back up outfielder) but after a quick glance at BR, I feel I would be insulting Timo by even mentioning him in the same sentence as Dewayne. I have absolutely no idea how Wise is still in the big leagues. His career numbers are terrible. It’s a mystery how this guy has managed to stick around as long as he has.
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by Hazymania on Jul 8, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be something to consider if someone would pick up wise on waivers, but i don't see that happening.
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by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the move
KW has earned the benefit of the doubt in trading prospects. I don’t think the return is that bad, a minor move but KW has taken Arizona so many times I’m surprised Colangelo still deals with him.
Besides, a 1st baseman can be found anywhere for a solid GM like KW. If not Viciedo or Flowers than maybe Q plays first as he ages or the Sox get creative.
Again, I like the move.
by madvillian on Jul 7, 2009 11:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
agree that 1B are dime a dozen - just look at the all-star game - so many of them
But Allen was so Ryan Howard like in Spring Training….and has something that other 1B do not have…speed and agility…
3 triples dude…
by el paulito on Jul 8, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
by ryan howard like
you mean black, plays 1B and bats left-handed?
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by larry on Jul 8, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same rhythm to his name, too.
Ah, the possibilities.
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by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 8, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your offense is only as good as your bullpen
by 3E8 on Jul 7, 2009 11:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
With Gobble gone, our bullpen is considerably less offensive.
…to me, at least.
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by RWShow on Jul 8, 2009 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
booo
even if flowers or viciedo are going to first base like they should this is still a bad trade
was at the game though and it was amazing!!!
too dazed to think too much about this right now.
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by blackoutsox on Jul 7, 2009 11:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't get too worked up about this
Kenny got a guy who can be a 7th-8th inning type who is under our control for cheap for 3 more years for a guy who MAY be able to contribute in 2 years. I’ll trust him on this.
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by Q!'s Qrew on Jul 7, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kenwo learned the hard way
well – its better than paying linebrink type money for middle relief…
by el paulito on Jul 8, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so we're stuck with SLOW paulie for quite a time now? and have no lefty power bat after JT leaves?
and its not like middle relievers aren’t a dime a dozen either
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by blackoutsox on Jul 8, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kenny has earned our trust on this...plain and simple
What’s to say this guy amounts to anything?
Keeping our bullpen solid is one of the keys to current and future success, which I’m sure you certainly know, as a reader of this site.
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by Q!'s Qrew on Jul 8, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weird
I had the same thought about Pena = Dotel 2.0 in the trade thread. Good write up.
by Franchise82 on Jul 7, 2009 11:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
makes sense
As has been said, this move makes perfect sense when you think about how it saves 5.5 million dollars in the 2010 salary (Dotel’s salary minus Pena’s). Viewed that way, the trade line for the sox looks like …
Allen = Cheap Dotel Jr. for 2009 and beyond + 2 high draft picks in 2010 + 5.5 Million
I think KW (and much of baseball) has fallen in love with draft so the assumption is a prospect of Allen’s caliber is more easily replaceable with 2 high picks than a low cost, mostly proven reliever. And bottom line is when you’re talking about 1B/DH prospects if they don’t have 30-40 HR potential, they just aren’t that great of prospects.
by rhombusface on Jul 8, 2009 1:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2 points re Dotel & free agency.
1. Will the White Sox risk offering Dotel arbitration?
2. If Dotel is Type A FA, will another team sign him and lose their 1st round pick?
Time to show Walker and Dotel the door.
by ballyb on Jul 8, 2009 6:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
no to #1 and ??? to #2.
Therefore Dotel is outta here in next 3 weeks.
Time to show Walker and Dotel the door.
by ballyb on Jul 8, 2009 6:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because the sox won't get compensation for him they're going to trade him.
makes perfect sense.
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by larry on Jul 8, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if a clearly should be added it's because
dotel can help us win the division now, which comes attached with other goodies
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 8, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they are not getting picks for him
but might net something marginal in a trade yet this year.
by Hatchetm on Jul 8, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
more likely scenario is the Dotel is to be traded
The Gobble will return! and Tony Pena will be the Dotel piece.
by el paulito on Jul 8, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dan Haren
is leading the majors in WHIP, 2nd in the majors in ERA, leading the majors in K/BB rate, signed for a few more years for cheap, and you think you’d be able to trade for him around your 5th or 6th best prospect??
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by DbacksSkins on Jul 8, 2009 10:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No we don't...the guy playing on his XBox does
Most ppl are aware what the price for Haren would be
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by Q!'s Qrew on Jul 8, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay.
Just making sure.
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by DbacksSkins on Jul 8, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey,
we got Carlos Quentin for not all that much.
Time to show Walker and Dotel the door.
by ballyb on Jul 8, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
::head asplodes::
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by DbacksSkins on Jul 8, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahaha
I LOVE A.J PIERZYNSKI. WHITE SOX BASEBALL FUTILE TILL THE END. SOMETHINGS AREN'T EVEN WORTH FIGHTING FOR NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY.
by pierzynskirules on Jul 8, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a fair question, considering what the first post of the thread was.
But yeah, Haren would be a pipe dream.
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by Q!'s Qrew on Jul 8, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon.
We would NEVER trade an MVP candidate for a minor league 1B/DH slugger-type player.
::glances side to side::
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by DbacksSkins on Jul 8, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well-played.
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by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great deal...
All the above logic and financials seems compelling and as last night’s game proved, yet again, you can’t have too much pitching (good starters + having your ass covered bullpen wise starting in the 6th inning).
I don’t see KW trading Dotel before the deadline as adding pitching and focusing on this year has always been his MO.
By the way, of all the Sox hitters last night it looks like Alexei was the guy who was really on it last night. Every swing all night was a real dangerous major league stroke for him. Maybe it was just he sees Sowers well or he is just generally on fire. I’m thinking it’s the latter he’s going to have a monster July and August at the plate.
by Dick Allen's batting helmet on Jul 8, 2009 10:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Deal or value aside
I like Pena’s GB% and HR% in regards to the Cell.
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by Tdogg on Jul 8, 2009 10:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If he's pitched around a 4 ERA
in the park with the 2nd highest park factor in the majors, (Chase Field) he should be alright at US Cellular.
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by DbacksSkins on Jul 8, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bonus feature of last night's game
Taking the blue line home from the game just in time to meet the rather glum looking cadre of Cub’s fans getting on at Addison street. In thier blue regalia they seemed to be making their best sad clown imitations. The 2nd millenia of losing Cubs baseball has arrived!!
by Dick Allen's batting helmet on Jul 8, 2009 10:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Frankly,
I think I like the return we got in this deal, but over the past few years, Peña has been our best setup man and was sorta penciled in as the closer of the future. I’m really sorry to see him go, although, like I said, I like the return we got.
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by DbacksSkins on Jul 8, 2009 11:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What about Peña's
L / R splits? Is he that bad?
Time to show Walker and Dotel the door.
by ballyb on Jul 8, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is he that "bad"?
No. Is he much better against righties? Yeah. When he’s on, he can be lights out — as in the first 24 outings this season.
He gets midseason fatigue around 25 appearances.
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by DbacksSkins on Jul 8, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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