Freeze Frame: Contreras Finds Forkball
by The Cheat on Jul 8, 2009 10:46 PM CDT
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PrintWCIU cemented its place as the worst station granted the opportunity to broadcast White Sox games with nine innings of fragmented coverage Wednesday. I missed much of the game, as I decided against waiting through choppy signals and frames frozen for minutes at a time.
What I was able to see was Jose Contreras working through a first inning trying to find his groove. He got hit hard in the inning, but escaped without surrendering a run. But when he returned with a 1-run lead in the second inning, he had found his forkball. He struck out the side, and cruised through the next 5 innings.
He seemed to lose the feel for the forkball in the 7th, as he started to get hit around again, giving up a home run to Jhonny Peralta. Ozzie could see he was losing it, and headed to his newly fortified bullpen rather quickly, which erased the mini-jam in only two pitches.
For me, the 7th inning double play was the highlight of the game. You probably won't see it on SportsCenter -- the ease with which they turned the twin killing will make sure of that -- but it might have been one of the best defensive plays the Sox have made as a team this year. Alexei Ramirez ranged deep to his right to backhand the Jamey Carroll grounder on one knee, fired to second from that same knee, where Jayson Nix easily avoided a takeout slide and had Carroll by a step and half at first.
That explanation doesn't do the play justice. Hawk used some incredulous mutterings into a hot mike as they headed commercial break, but I wasn't able to make heads or tails of it. Let's just say he was just as impressed.
Venture into the gamethread at your own risk. It came to SouthSideSoxers' attention that Steve Stone did a spread in Playgirl (no link. you'll have to search it out yourself). Needless to say, the gamethread is trashed, hirsutely trashed.
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My hat is off to Jose
He worked his ass off in the off season to come back in awesome shape. It didn’t pay off at all right away, but instead of being mentally weak he worked through it and has come back lights out.
It’s a cliche, but this guy is a gamer, and he has shown it this season. A gruesome injury, hard work for 7 months that amounts to nothing, another month riding a bus with 20 somethings, and now on top of the world again riding a smoking hot streak
Hats off to you Count.
Steve Stone sees your hat and raises his entire wardrobe
¡signature!
by billyok on Jul 9, 2009 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
which apparently is only a robe.
….ladies
I just accidentally the Fleshlight.
Accidentally what?
THE WHOLE THING!!
Some great quotes from Gonzales' recap:
It’s ironic that I felt younger after the injury, losing all that weight," Contreras said. "If I would have known it was going to help that much, I would have lost it six years ago.
"Physically, I was ready when I came into the season, but mentally, I wasn’t ready yet. Mentally, the edge wasn’t there and finally, it’s coming all together."
"It was a great pickup," Contreras said of the acquisition of Castro from the New York Mets on May 29. "No disrespect to A.J (Pierzynski). I won 17 in a row with A.J.. But having Ramon on the team is like a fresh start with the team, as a whole.
"I’ve shook off Ramon twice, and both times they hit home runs. So I’m not going to shake him off often anymore."
Hey, whatever works. Castro hit the ball well tonight, on a warm night 1 of those long flies to the wall probably goes out. I can see what KW was thinking with the Castro trade, and the Sox basically got him for free.
AJ is having a great year and with Castro out there the Sox have a great 1-2 punch at catcher.
Thanks for the heads up on Stone Pony
I came late to the party (no pun intended) and saw HSA’s work and didn’t want to delve in any further (again, no pun intended)
Formerly Crede's Crew
I believe Hawk said,
“Can you believe that?”
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
He did, he did. That play made me soil my pants. Or maybe that was Steve's Stone Pony shadow.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 9, 2009 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions
you like the Stone pony!
the ‘whole piece’ shall be unveiled in tonights game thread!
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
I found a copy of that mag for like $24 on ebay.
I thought about buying it and trying to get it autographed at blog-night.
maybe I’ll just print this photo.
ha!
do you think hed sign it:
To Hawk,
Love,
Stone Pony
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
block quote fail
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
You and I travel to the beat of a different drum.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
Fuck, I hope so.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 9, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
You recognize the lyrics?
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
What might be right for you
might not be right for some.
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 9, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed on that defensive play, one of the prettier DPs this season
Hawk compared Nix to something something Green, then they talked about Mullet Night.
And, who knew SSS stood for Sexy Steve Stone?
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
just an fyi, AP is reporting that Colon is back from his AWOL stint
Expected to make his start tommorow.
Much ado about nothing it seems. What he does on his time is his. Hopefully he got his mind right and can contribute down the stretch if needed.
He went AWOL on Boston last year, and ended up getting kicked off the team
So it was worth reporting on.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
sorry, I agree it was a story
I have a respect for the wire services, which is why I quoted the AP. Good reporting all around good job traditional media yea get me a blogger that has sources etc.
HD signal on the U was fine
I thought SSS was a profitable website
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Jul 8, 2009 11:38 PM CDT reply actions
really?
it was terrible on comcast and even directly from antenna. I didn’t get many interruptions, but the entire screen was extremely twitchy… overcompressed I guess I’d say. normally the U broadcasts over air or cable are as good as any, buy today something was definitely up.
Yeah
on Wow, it was fine. It’s funny, last night the HD signal was horrendous, had to watch it on lo-def. It was like watching a cartoon with missing frames.
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Jul 9, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions
The picture was fine for me, but the audio was awful
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 9, 2009 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Fine on RCN...and RCN bites.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 9, 2009 7:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Where are you at?
I have Comcast and it was fine for me? (I don’t have HD, so I was watching the regular channel).
by Grinder in Training on Jul 9, 2009 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions
No it wasn't
It was wretched.
"Lemonade was a popular drink back in the day and it still is.."
Gangstarr
by Big Daddy Kool on Jul 9, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
if you look at the picture of Beckham and Dye
it looks like he is blessing Dye…and obviously it worked
Once a Dawg, Always a Dawg. How Sweet it is!
what an awesome gamethread
next a Barbra Eden/Bill Melton sex tape will surface…
member of a "solid community of fans" and "a meathead."
by thecip on Jul 9, 2009 12:10 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Unfortunately...
…nobody will know how to work the damn thing to play it.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
HA!
You know Melty had all the camera angles.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 9, 2009 7:01 AM CDT up reply actions
He had Bob Crane's assistance
"To play for me you have to have some balls." - Ozzie Guillen (6/30/09)
Holy Crap
You guys were not joking about the Playgirl thing…. I can not unsee what I have seen.
by Steven Andrew Miller on Jul 9, 2009 1:54 AM CDT up reply actions
that DP is up on the video corner on the sox' site
found here
hawk mutters “you gotta be kiddin me”
I just accidentally the Fleshlight.
Accidentally what?
THE WHOLE THING!!
Ah, that's what he said! He was spent from that play.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 9, 2009 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions
It was a decent play.
Maybe we are not used to that.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 9, 2009 11:16 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
grindy
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 9, 2009 7:03 AM CDT up reply actions
grinders don't pose for playgirl, i think it's rule #37
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 9, 2009 7:05 AM CDT up reply actions
If you got it, flaunt it.
I do it at Potbelly all the time and it usually gets me a free milk shake.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 9, 2009 7:08 AM CDT up reply actions
true dat
stoney is as grindy as they come
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 9, 2009 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Give credit where due - explodingwheels p-shopped that brilliance. :)
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 9, 2009 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions
oh, i had no idea, he should work for the ny times
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 9, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I don’t have HD, but my standard WCIU was just fine too.. I didn’t have a problem all game, not sure it’s the channel to blame.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 9, 2009 6:18 AM CDT reply actions
Oney, new Sox ML Scout - not sure how larry was passed over.
The Sox are being extra cautious in dealing with Quentin, who has been battling plantar fasciitis in his left foot, a nagging ailment that is expected to limit Quentin’s playing time in the second half.
‘’We try to do the best we can to get him off the field a little bit,’’ Guillen said. ‘’He won’t come back here 100 percent. I talked to a couple of people down in the minor leagues. He’s not running full speed right now. I want him to test his foot before he comes here.’’
And just who is Guillen’s spy in Charlotte? His son Oney, who is working with the Sox’ baseball operations department and is watching the Knights.
‘’Oney told me, ’I don’t think he can run right now, Dad,‘’’ Guillen said. ‘’He can be honest. He knows what I need. He said he swings the bat well. Right now, he said he doesn’t see him pushing hard enough to be up here.’’
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/1658764,CST-SPT-soxnt09.article
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
Simple
larry called Ozzie a fag and scolded him for not searching Fangraphs on whether or not to use Linebrink on consecutive days. And when Ozzie asked what Fangraphs was, he ridiculed his masculinity again for not using Google or having a BP subscription.
Then, of course, he sat back and criticized Herm’s theories on ACL/MCL injury potential and chided Bossard for not cross pollinating Comiskey’s bluegrass with velvet bentgrass, in an attempt to mitigate said ACL/MCL injuries. Of course, no one gets away with questioning Bossard’s genetic research, so it’s a miracle larry is still alive, really…
"What do you mean?" he answered. "I love the Outfield!"
no offense to larry, resident pitbull
but ozzie would win the war of words with him, no doubt
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 9, 2009 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions
you're using the term "words" loosely.
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
Blue haired lawyer always wins
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 9, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
blue haired lawyer with a tongue piercing
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 9, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
ill be rupprecht he plazet nüchtern this pfarrer
by hoodlight on Jul 9, 2009 11:15 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
still got it!
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
Google search of "Steve Stone Playgirl" has this thread as #8 result.
Nice going (I guess)!
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
need a similar effort with nancy faust
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 9, 2009 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions
from yesterday's BP
pecota and starters forecast midseason review.
one, are there any sox pitchers who are underperforming their expectations (for those who have subscription).
and two, why use ERA and not FIP? is it difficult to forecast FIP?
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 9, 2009 8:54 AM CDT reply actions
that's a fantasy article. and he discusses FIP in the context of that. but ERA is a bit more important to fantasy players.
and no to the first question.
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
ah, that makes sense, thanks
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 9, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions
I love the little "anything you can do, I can do better" thing happening between PK and JD this season. The best moment being their back-to-back 300th HRs, but really, it's been a season-long duel of AWESOME.
PK – .304/.356/.883, 58 RBI, 16 HR, 18 2B
JD – .297/.368/.940, 54 RBI, 20 HR, 14 2B
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
Did you steal that from Jim?
One of the sweet ironies of this season is that while the Sox are supposed to be getting younger, the most the most enjoyable aspect to me has been watching two old pros go to work.
I could be making this up entirely based on some old-and-slow hip bumps and lucky timing, but Paul Konerko and Jermaine Dye seem to be motivating the hell out of each other. And well before a couple of big nights against the Cleveland Indians.
In April, Konerko beat Dye to the 300-homer mark — by a matter of pitches. Dye beat Konerko to 1,000 RBI by a far greater margin — about two months.
Recently, they’ve been engaged in a back-and-forth battle for the season RBI lead.
Dye held a 51-50 edge entering the Cleveland series. Konerko went and blasted three homers, tying a career high by driving in seven while Dye went a piddly 1-for-4.
On Wednesday night, Dye responded with three hits and three RBI; Konerko "only" managed two and one, respectively.
Konerko is up to 58 RBI, good for seventh in the American League. He’s been traded for some combination of Chone Figgins, Ervin Santana and Casey Kotchman umpteen times. Dye stands at 20 homers, the fourth-highest total in the American League, and he was dealt midseason 2007, and before this year as well.
Get younger. That’s the cry Kenny Williams has heard in the papers, on the radio, at SoxFest and on the Internet (I’ve been guilty of it, though in muted tones). With Konerko, Dye, Jim Thome (OPSing 20 points higher this year) and Jose Contreras (more on him later), we have a handful of examples of why lowering the mean age for age’s sake is pointless. Production is production is production.
One more note about Dye: He may have been an All-Star snub, but for somebody his age, I’m glad he didn’t make the midsummer classic.
Last Sunday, MLB Network replayed the 2002 Home Run Derby, when Paul Konerko lost a tiebreaker to Jason Giambi in the semifinals. He looked just as good during the Derby as he looked entering the All-Star break, as he carried a .328/.379/.571 line into the midsummer classic.
Over the next calendar year, Konerko hit .235/.301/.352. After hitting 20 homers in the first three months of that season, he hit just 12 over his next six baseball months, and as far as I can tell, he may have set the trend for the Home Run Derby hangover.
Dye can’t afford any rude interruption. He’s a beautiful ballplayer to watch at 100 percent. At 90 percent, he’s barely average. Considering that an All-Star berth isn’t going to change his legacy or contract negotiations any, I think he’s better rewarded with four days to rest those too-old bones.
http://soxmachine.wordpress.com/
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
yeah, he did.
i realize jim doesn’t have a problem with it but let’s not make a habit of posting entire articles and posts, or huge chunks of articles. some people don’t take kindly to people doing that with their stuff.
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
I know your "let's not make a habit of it" is directed at SSS in general, right?
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
it's not good habit, but is there copyright shit going on when you post the entire article
even though you cite the author ? (chiburb put soxmachine at the bottom, that’s what i was implying)
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 9, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions
i remember when we moved to sbnation that this was brought up
better to block a small chunk or key quotes rather than the whole article, i think it was regarding BP’s articles
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 9, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions
some authors complain about it.
it’s just one of those things that i’m not interested in dealing with when i get emails about it.
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
spoken like 'the' person run who runs SSS ;)
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 9, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
3, maybe 4 paragraphs is considered fair use. Unless the entire article is only 3 or 4 graphs.
At least that’s the rule of thumb on many blogs that cite news stories or run snips of columns. I don’t think it’s “legally” defined.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
Yes I did.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
I believe I did actually exceed 'fair use' there...
Unintentional. Will you represent me if Jim sues? Maybe an insanity defense? I’m pretty well documented…
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
Ha! No, I admittedly have not been to InvisiblogMachine in a while.... :'( And now I feel bad.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 9, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
It's worse than you think. You have to go to SoxMachine first, then click a linky
to get to the temporary home at Wordpress. Though his post re Allen/Pena drew 14 comments!!!
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
I read in the gt last night that there were server issues. 14 comments though....whoa, go Jim!!!
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 9, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions
old guys rule.
Like I have to tell you folks.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 9, 2009 11:20 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Podsednik cf
Ramirez ss
Dye rf
Thome dh
Konerko 1b
Pierzynski c
Nix lf
Getz 2b
Beckham 3b
Richard p
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Pods in CF... a glimpse into the future.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
what the hell, why even have both wise and ba on the roster...
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 9, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd say Ozzie is wondering the same thing
This is the best way for him to find out.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 9, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Makes sense
Get him out there before Q is next to him.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 9, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't mind wise
but anderson is useless. In my opinion he isn’t that great in center either. Of course that is from the “eye” test.
Kenwo4life=ratings
nice- i've been waiting to see this particular lineup...
nix nix nix!
Can’t keep him off the lineup…just too good…
Ozzie souring on Getz?
Nix has played 2B over Getz for the last few games. I haven’t read of any injury, minor or nagging, for Getz so I wonder if Ozzie is trying to figure out who should play 2B for him when Quentin (el Señor) returns. Am I full of it?
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As in L/R or quality?
Cuz today it’s a lefty pitching for the Indians right?
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A couple observations from my first (and probably only) visit to the Cell this season
*Contreras’s forkball was unhittable. This was probably evident on TV but what may not have been was how quickly he knew it – and this Indians did too. He looks extremely commanding on the mound.
*For having not seen him in person yet, it’s surprising how tiny Beckham is. He’s not a big guy. An offseason of smoking goat embryos ought to cure that. (Victor Martinez appeared to be joshing him about The Outfield, as well.)
*Count me in on the Castro’s-good-for-Count bandwagon, but he also seemed to handle Thornton (96-98 on the Cell’s gun) very well, too. He made a point of waiting for Thornton on the field after the doubleplay that ended the Indians’ seventh – a seemingly nice gesture that Thornton looked like he appreciated.
*About a half hour before the game Bill Melton read Lou Gehrig’s “luckiest man alive” speech in some kind of prearranged MLB ALS-awareness deal. The park was about a quarter full at that point and there was a pretty steady but light rain. Not many people were paying Melton much attention and even fewer knew what he was doing. It turned out to be sort of affecting, but probably not in the way it was supposed to be.
Melton was refering to the time he banged Barbara Eden.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
or elizabeth montgomery
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 9, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Joey Heatherton, Angie Dickinson...oo, la, la
"To play for me you have to have some balls." - Ozzie Guillen (6/30/09)
Just curious ;)
What could we trade Jose for, today?
Time to show Walker and Dotel the door.
Ohhh, you said "what"......in that case......
Megan Fox’s bed.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 9, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
not much
he’s old, high risk. but if he pitches like this for the remainder of the season, which i find unlikely, i wonder if he could pitch into type A free agent status.
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 9, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
who's going to sign him
and be willing to give up the picks, and offering arb? he’d prob accept
"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH
that's true...
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 9, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
there is no chance contreras could reach type a.
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too early to tell whether he is traded or not...
we should not even think about offering arb on players when the economy has affected baseball as it has.
The players will most likely accept – look at how long it took to sign Type A’s last off season…
Only value we could get is if we traded them away for some youth that could translate to 25 man for 2010…Lots of buyers out there for starting pitching. Thats why we have Bartolo and Freddy waiting in the wings… Unlikely that we would have Richard moving in this scheme of mine.
no way
he will not reach type A… however I could see being able to get something for him… obviously only if he keeps this up
Wave that flag.... Wave it wide and high.. Summertime... Done come and gone, My oh my
A bag of balls qualifies as something right?
If Contreras “keeps this up” in his starts before the trade deadline (which is what, 3 more starts if even?) his value to the Sox will be considerably greater than the fringy A ball arm they would get in return. And if you wanted that fringy arm to be a potential high ceiling guy, the Sox would probably have to send cash. Kenny hasn’t exactly sounded like he is the money-givin’ mood recently.
And all that doesn’t even take into account how the fanbase would look at such a move. Contreras is pitching well, we are within striking distance (or maybe even in the lead) and we trade him for a prospect? No way, the PR hit alone keeps this from ever happening.
Unless you are talking about trading him for help this year, which is almost too asinine of an idea to even comment on. There is nothing we could get for Contreras that would plug a bigger gap than losing him would create.
Not sure a fringy A ball pitcher would be the return.
Last 6 starts – 42 IP, .833 WHIP. Playoff and WS tested.
Gotta be really valuable to a Brewers or Tex or Giants or a ??.
Time to show Walker and Dotel the door.
More valuable to the Sox
Or have you still not accepted the errors of your way of thinking (Sox performance, blah blah blah)?
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
It's hard to watch games with a caved-in face.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
I am close.
Indians are too easy. We shall see.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 9, 2009 11:23 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Sure...
now you just need a GM who will only look at the last 42 IP. If you can find that then you probably will be able to fleece him.
My point is, if he really has turned it around, there is no way you can completely convince another GM of that so you won’t be getting full value and therefore the Sox lose on the trade. If he hasn’t completely turned it around and he struggles a bit for the rest of the year while mixing in some quality starts, that is about equal to the value another GM would pay at this point. The only case where the Sox would win in a trade is if Contreras completely falls off after July 31st, basically reverts to what he was earlier this year or if he gets injured. I consider this to be the least likely of the 3 scenarios.
Now mix that in with the PR hit a move like this would incur (plus I doubt this would be a real popular move in the clubhouse, not that you can let that influence the decision too much) and I just don’t see any way a deal would get done.
Dammit! My Stone Pony images that I loaded and resized in Photobucket last night were removed ("violated terms of use" or whatever). I knew they wouldn't let me have those. :(
Anyone know of an image hosting site that WILL allow my poolside Pony?
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
tube8.com
NSFW!
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
Ok...well then I can't open that for another 10 hours.... I'd still like a suggestion from anyone else. Thinking about taking my image hosting elsewhere!
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 9, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Boy will THAT break them up.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
I'll take away my LOL cats so fast, Photobucket won't know what hit 'em!
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 9, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually, tube8 is a free prono video site that offers QTime versions for iPhone.
Hee. You probably don’t even want to visit. For the rest of you:
A public service announcement.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
i think this is my favorite chiburb-hsa exchange
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 9, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
This is why I don't want a daughter
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 9, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
What is prono?
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 9, 2009 11:25 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
sure you were...
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
Misspelling was intentional...
You could always go to that site and find out though.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
I knew that, OPOS.
I just liked posting mobily. Like hillbilly, except will less "el"s.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
Anybody getting Cowley Tweeters? I see that he's MIA from the S-T this series...
With Ginetti covering the Sox on Tuesday, and DeLuca yesterday. If he’s still doing WSCR, why wouldn’t he represent the paper too? Or maybe he’s absent from there too?
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
Now that I think about it
I can’t remeber the last time he was on the score
Wave that flag.... Wave it wide and high.. Summertime... Done come and gone, My oh my
Easier for beat reporters to take home games off.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
White Sox take over updated Pecota projection performance finish
Still haven’t taken over odds version, ELO has them as a 32% chance to make playoffs now.
Some of the more interesting Pecota predicted lines for the rest of the season as of 7/5
Beckham .275/.318/.439 8hr 35 rbi
Alexei .278/.325/.434 12 hr 44rbi
47 hr & 141 RBI for the Holy Trinty (Dye,Konerko and Thome)
Probably a pipe dream for Q .259/.336/.502 14 hr 39 rbi
certainly attainable but based on 75% playing time.
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
I put 10 in vegas for Thome to lead the MLB in homeruns
That is a pipe dream, but I also put 10 on the “anybody else/rest of the field” which includes alot of names that have at least a shot
Wave that flag.... Wave it wide and high.. Summertime... Done come and gone, My oh my
More
Pods .281/.339/.369 with 20 steals (I’d take that for the rest of the season)
how about Castro. .246/.310/.449 (not bad at all for backup catcher who makes Jose look like 05 Contreras. PPB!)
Still not a great amount of respect from pitching, though the numbers have moved a great deal (they had to.)
Buerhle 100 IP 4.39 era
Danks 93 IP 4.20 era
Floyd 95IP 4.62 era
Contreras 65 IP 4.86 era
Richard 65 IP 4.90 era
Now that I write that, I guess for Pecota that is a shiny recommendation for our staff.
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
32 abs predicted for my boy Flowers
hooray!
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
hitter vorp (the 44.9 you cited the other day), 26th in mlb, haha
but pitcher vorp is ranked 5th…if hitting continues on its upswing and pitching regresses slightly, we have a shot.
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 9, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
At least we were spared full frontal from Stone.
Which is not a challenge to anyone out there to dig up such evidence.
by SoxFanOnTheNorthwestSide on Jul 9, 2009 10:48 AM CDT reply actions
OT - Red Baron commentary
While awaiting the Sox broadcast yesterday, I happened upon the ESPN Dodgers/Mets game where Rick Sutcliffe spent a good 5 minutes ripping on Manny for his suspension and spoke about what a disappointment Manny is, which I greatly enjoyed.
He then took a strange turn and declared that, "If Andre Dawson would have taken steroids, he would have the greatest player in baseball history."
Andre had an exceptional career and a monster year in 1987 (49 HR, 137 RBI), but the best player EVER? Perhaps The Red Baron is on some sort of drug as well?
"To play for me you have to have some balls." - Ozzie Guillen (6/30/09)
i thought this was gonna be about pizza
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Jul 9, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Manny is in Snoopy's doghouse.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
folks don't worry, i just checked mcdowell's formula for having a successful season
and we’re in. i have to admit, it was a bit hard to follow, because it’s more complex than phil rogers simple arithmetic.
i think i’ve ashley bond on that prono site tube8 that chiburb was talking about…
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 9, 2009 12:37 PM CDT reply actions
i think i've seen
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 9, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
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