Clayton Richard Wonders 'How Poorly Do I Have to Pitch to be Removed from the Rotation?'
by The Cheat on Jul 9, 2009 6:26 PM CDT
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PrintThe White Sox decision to throw Clayton Richard on short rest against the Indians Thursday was an odd choice even before he gave up 6 runs in only an inning-plus of work. The Sox wanted to get Mark Buehrle an extra start, and perhaps limit his availability for the All-Star Game, so they used Monday's off-day to move him up a spot and give him 2 of the final 6 starts of the first half; a perfectly rational baseball move given that Buehrle has been the Sox best, most consistent starter in the first-half. The curious move, however, was deciding to move Clayton Richard up a day in order to pitch against the Indians rather than in the Metrodome against the Twins as normal rest would have dictated.
Last season, the Sox were extremely reluctant to go to a 4-man rotation in September in an attempt to keep innings off the arms of Floyd and Danks, but eventually caved as rainouts and dwindling division lead forced their hand. Yet here they were voluntarily giving Richard a start on short rest in order to avoid(?) a more lefty-driven lineup. Obviously, the decision spoke volumes about how the White Sox feel about the relative strength (and importance) of the two opponents, as they clearly didn't want their weakest starting pitcher throwing against another division title contender (and chief rival.)
As I mentioned in the gamethread, it all smelled a little Manuel-ian, as if the Sox felt a win against Twins, or rather a better shot at a win against the Twins, was worth sacrificing a a win, or decreasing the likelihood of a win, against the Indians. It was the wrong play when Manuel did it in a 2-team race in late-August '03, and it just seemed a little out of place in a 3-team race in the second week of July.
Anyway, I don't want to focus on the short-rest decision, because doing so would diminish the point of this post. It would give Ozzie and Richard the opportunity to use the short-rest as an excuse for Richard's brutal outing. But Richard has been bad for a while now, and it has nothing to do with short rest. He's lasted a total of 4.2 in his last two starts -- but the short rest! -- and averaged 4.1 innings a start over his last 8. That's not getting it done. No excuses necessary.
But Ozzie was still reluctant to say that Richard had pitched himself out of the rotation after the game, seemingly at a loss for who would take his place.
"I don't know. We don't have any other choice right now."
In Ozzie's defense, there aren't exactly a whole lot of candidates to take Richard's place, but that's partially his own fault. Aaron Poreda, the only realistic and healthy internal candidate, pitched a career high 2.1 innings Thursday, and all it took was the pitcher leaving in the first inning.
I was strangely confident after Richard was pulled, as I figured Poreda was good for at least 3 innings of solid relief work and was counting on the Sox offense eventually getting into the Indians league-worst bullpen. It didn't quite work out that way, but it was close.
Poreda was effective, though not exactly impressive. He wasn't forcing groundballs with his fastball, and got a couple of strikeouts on get-me-over sliders that caught Indians hitters by surprise. That being said, how is that any different than Richard? Well, for one, he's gotten hitters out. He's now allowed a total of one run, which, while earned, wouldn't have scored if the Sox had a true 3B, in 10 innings pitched in the majors.
The Sox comeback stalled, however, when Poreda exited and the Cleveland pen entered. Five relievers combined to hold the Sox to just 2 hits, with Chris Getz' slow chopper in the 9th as the only hit after the 5th. Getz reached base in all 5 plate appearances, but he was followed in the order by Gordon Beckham, who went 0-5, which was nearly as damaging as Richard's brutal start.
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Assuming Bart has anything in this rehab start (starts?), get him up for the 2nd half
If he’s terrible, we should go to Poreda or a trade. I’ll keep saying it. I know it’s a #5, but Richard(s) is not the answer
Formerly Crede's Crew
Richard, Colon
Quess I would try Poreda….I agree Richard isn’t it, and Colon has not been “IT” for years.
by craftylefthander on Jul 9, 2009 6:48 PM CDT reply actions
When was it, '04 that #5 went 7-17 or so?
Or was it more recently than that?
Anyway, I’d try Egbert there since there’s nothing to lose at this rate. At least until/if Colon comes back.
Too bad. That Richard kid had a nice set of choppers.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
by Chiburb on Jul 9, 2009 6:54 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
egbert's kind of hurt.
and colon ain’t exactly inspiring confidence so far tonight.
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Trade everyone for Halladay!
That’ll solve our pitching woes!
Just let me do the math here…trading everyone, add in Halladay, add the remainder…and we get….Oh God, the Knights plus Halladay…that’s shit!
...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT
If it took Brandon Allen to land Tony Pena it probably would take nearly everyone to get halladay
Dinosaurs didn't exist because Carl Everett said so. Period.
Didn't know. Too bad we don't get ML updates here.
So. What’s your opinion: stay with Richard?
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
by Chiburb on Jul 9, 2009 7:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i do enjoy that you were the first to post on the most recent front page story, said 'thank you'
and apparently didn’t read the first paragraph.
richard was the flavor of the month last month. now he sucks. i imagine his level is somewhere in the middle. he’s a 4/5 starter. this is what they do.
i can’t say that i’m all that concerned about the backend of the rotation. there are plenty of options, and much better ones than most teams have. i’d be fine with any of richard, poreda or colon at this point because you’d probably get about the same or thereabouts.
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Do you care to offer an opinion on their respective values in the bullpen?
ie, since they’re all about the same in terms of starting, is there a way to maximize their collective value by assigning the two with the best “bullpen skills” or most probably bullpen success to relief duty?
I’m assuming that since they have similar values as starters, they will have similar values as relievers as well, but I wonder if I’m missing some nuance of the game here.
...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT
What concerns you about the pen?
Especially now that Liney has (theoretically) been pushed back one slot?
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
by Chiburb on Jul 9, 2009 7:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
well, theoretically, there's value to having multiple lefties in the pen.
i imagine colon would run off to the DR again if he was made a reliever.
poreda is probably a better bullpen option than richard. though i probably wouldn’t argue too much with someone who says poreda is simply a better option in any role.
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compounding the situation
Carrasco’s been rocked lately
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 9, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually read the whole post, not only the 1st para
But that was early morning 6 days ago and you expect me to remember?
I’m also not that concerned about that slot in the rotation. None of the alternatives are an automatic loss.
At least I remembered to say thank you.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
by Chiburb on Jul 9, 2009 7:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You don't hang on his every word??! Shock.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Fucking old people can't remember shit.
So how about Richard as our 5th? Or Poreda? Maybe Colon?
Christ, I’m just not sure. I wish this was made irrelevant by the fact that we had 4 quality starters. Oh, well, time for bed.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
Please don't go to bed mad
Stay up and let’s talk about this
¡signature!
by billyok on Jul 9, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was at the game.
And Richard was given no love from the fans. Heavy booing as he walked off the field. Sure, I was frustrated but it’s always awkward when a Sox gets booed (except Linebrink).
I was proud of the boys for fighting back but it was a bit frustrating that several of them had chances of being heroes today but couldn’t come through.
Oh well, I guess you can’t beat the Indians everyday.
by SoxFanOnTheNorthwestSide on Jul 9, 2009 7:07 PM CDT reply actions
fuck that i boo'd his ass... he stunk and deserved it
should have been given a refund after watching that garbage… well until the comeback at least. When it was 9-2 i was ready to walk out.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Poreda's going to have problems if that's what his breaking pitches look like
i thought he might have been slowing his motion, though given the Indians’ hitter reactions, that could be off.
THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY
You mean tipping the curve with a slower delivery?
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
by Chiburb on Jul 9, 2009 7:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Gobble, Gobble
The Indians are interested in signing LHP Jimmy Gobble, reports the Cleveland Plain Dealer.
Gobble was designated for assignment by the White Sox earlier this week. Interestingly, the paper notes that it is “doubtful” that the Indians will try to sign B.J. Ryan, even for the prorated minimum. If Cleveland signs Gobble, it would be to a minor league deal, according to the paper.
Formerly Crede's Crew
OT: Heading to NYC tomorrow
I have a friend that is interning there and living in midtown Manhattan. Any cheap eateries that I have to stop at?
Not exactly cheap
But try Barney Greengrass on the Upper West Side for smoked fish/lox – you’ll feel like a real mensch afterwards.
Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.
following the not exactly cheap theme
blue smoke is a solid bbq place in murray hill
"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH
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by hoodlight on Jul 10, 2009 4:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i can totally see where you're coming from
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on Jul 10, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
sliced carrots, daikon, jalapeno, cilantro sprigs, and meat (or a tofu) on a french roll
they are quite delicious.
In the event you ever visit the Bay Area, there’s a chain called “Lee’s Sandwiches” that make excellent Vietnamese Sandwiches. I’ll treat.
...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT
damn. i was just up there for about 24hrs last weekend. would have stopped there
had lunch in berkeley. wasn’t sure which exit it was, then saw the protesters on an overpass pretending to be abu ghraib/gitmo prisoners and knew that that must be it. can’t remember the name of the kickass sushi joint nor ice cream joint i went to.
fireworks from the park around golden gate. pretty cool to see sf/oakland’s, berkeley’s, and sausalito’s fireworks show all at the same time.
took the 1 back down. holeee sheeeeit am i glad i wasn’t the driver. those are some sheer ass dropoffs.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Jul 10, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Couple ideas
1. Corner Bistro – thought to have the best burger. I’m not sure about that, but it’s legit and cheap.
2. Deli’s – don’t go for any of the tourist traps like Carnegie, Stage, Katz’s…if you want to try one, just go to a local one in your neighborhood. If I knew where you’d be I could say more.
3. Pizza – Can’t go wrong most places, but if you want to hit the “best”/most famous spot, it’s Grimaldi’s in Brooklyn, just under the bridge.
4. to piggyback Illini’s bbq idea, a cheaper option is Brother Jimmy’s. It’s actually pretty good and there are like 5 of them now.
5. Thai – Bankok House on west 46th
If you want any other suggestions, let me know…I’ll try to check later tonight.
Formerly Crede's Crew
might that actually
Be a Murray Head reference, Sunshine?
by spengler on Jul 10, 2009 4:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
asian massage spa. on 30th between 7th and 8th. best hj's in the city!
Cashing checks and having sex.
Thanks guys
Q — I’ll take your advice and look for one in the area. If I’m really having trouble I’ll hop on here sometime this weekend and let you know where exactly I’m at.
Harlem - Dinosaur BBQ
Now that my friend is true culture. Get on the subway, take a ride to harlem ( i suggest while it’s still light out) and make your way there. Great prices, huge portions, fucking delicious, and a shit load of beers.
Corner Bistro
Now there’s memories (or snips and snippets of them). I don’t eat burgers but lived around the corner. Folks swore by that place, the burgers in particular. Nice part of the West Village.
John's in the Village?
that place is $
"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH
$ as in awesome
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 10, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Brother Jimmy's?
Wasn’t there one of those in Chicago a few years back? A NC style place?
Like pizza? Me too.
Check out my pizza review site.
keen's steakhouse. on 36th between 5th and 6th. fantastic place. pretty reasonably priced for a nyc steakhouse, too.
Cashing checks and having sex.
Great, he's already made his reservations
and you want him to change. Good timing. You should trade stocks for a living.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
i'm not even exactly sure what your comment means. perhaps you need a visit to my other recommendation.
Cashing checks and having sex.
Come again?
Me love you long time.
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."
— Leo Durocher
i've never been to one of those places and i'd never go to one. no more questions.
/runs away
Cashing checks and having sex.
this losing shit is pissing me off
I didn’t even know they played this afternoon, and I come back to the big L WTF
Coach says he needs more toughness. I gotta step up.
AMC - Blazing Saddles is on. Lighten up.
Quote relating to Stoney Pony: “They said you was hung!” “And they was right!”
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Jul 9, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
My president is green.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd take Colon over Richard
at least he was good half of the time. and if he wasn’t going to be good you knew it within the first 2 batters of the game.
Kenwo4life=ratings
not sure freddy's problem is injury.
seems like it’s ability.
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Neither can field - at least one occasionally can pitch
Remember when "Cuban Pride" meant something...
just saw bartolo threw 5 strong innings
something richard has done only once in quite a while
Kenwo4life=ratings
those norfolk guys are a bunch of tough SOBs
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
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He shall return soon.
what do you want from a fifth starter? a fat guy with horse teeth who sweats a lot?
’09 white sox fifth starter: a five-assed monkey.
member of a "solid community of fans" and "a meathead."
by thecip on Jul 9, 2009 11:52 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
What's the matter with fat pitchers
they can’t all be physical specimens like Wilbur Wood
Remember when "Cuban Pride" meant something...
Richard and Colon suffer from the same problem:
the inability to get opposite handed hitters out. I suspect Poreda may be much the same, but sss applies. I kind of like the idea of doling out work in 2-3 IP chunks to Tabasco, Richard, Poreda and Colon and giving the fifth start to whoever is the best matchup. It’d be a pretty tough sell to the players and may not be “feasible” per se, but it would be pretty fun with a decent potential return.
THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY
By Tabasco I assume you mean Carrasco?
That would be an interesting Idea, but I would rather just trade for a more proven guy. I mean, Colon and Richard are lucky to even get a shot in the big leagues. I am sure can go get Doug Davis from Zona and he would be a solid back end rotation guy that would cost close to nothing.
by No Pressure on Jul 10, 2009 2:12 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Colin.
That may be the worst idea I’ve ever heard. They tried that yesterday. Besides, Colon refuses to do relief work. I can’t imagine he’d be willing to go 2-3 just because. I think Richard needs to go down and readjust… I’d say try Egbert but he’s hurt(?). Torres or Colon seems like the best option.
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 10, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
they've been doing it any time one of the back end starters sucks
and it seems to have been pretty effective in getting back into the game. a starter should theoretically get knocked out much earlier if he has to face far more oppo-handed batters. this in turn sets up the long-ish reliever of oppo-hand than the starter.
presumably the reliever advantage diminishes with more IP/appearance, but i think you can offset that with platoon advantage. i also think 2-3 IP for pitchers used to starting will typically retain most if not all advantage, which is in part due to increased velo/movement and in part from effects due to times through the order a starter typically goes. additionally, most teams it seems have flexibility at the bottom of their lineup in order to maximize platoon advantage against the starter. the top of the lineup everyday players should be randomly LH or RH, so the balance is made by the bottom. in terms of the expected distribution of talent, this makes sense. there are few 3+ WAR players at the top and then a bunch of 0-2 types that populate the bottom of lineups. playing platoon matchups is necessary when there’s very little difference between players at the bottom of lineups.
THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY
Will there be an update on this tomorrow?
was going to lead off with the revitalization of Jack Egbert, who has been impressive since his return to a starting role. However, last night, after another impressive beginning, he took a line drive to his pitching hand and left the game. Charlotte is notoriously tight-lipped about injuries so no further info available at this point. In eight starts, Egbert had far better results than as a reliever: 43 IP, 32 hits, 5 BB, 35 K.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
From July 4.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"
he missed his last start
though i’ve seen conflicting reports as to where he got hit. some say it was on the thigh and not the hand.
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C torres
Another 4 solid innings last night after colon’s appearance…..seems like he should be in the conversation for a chance at fifth starter..
by stanchar on Jul 10, 2009 9:15 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
C Torres
the guy really can’t do too much better in AAA…..What does a guy have to do to get a shot? I was pretty sure Top five in ERA, K’s, Wins and Top 10 in WHIP would do it………. but I guess not. They should give this kid a chance or trade him somewhere he will get one. His June and July numbers are ridiculous! 5 wins 0 Losses ERA well below 2 and opponents BA well below .200
For those who missed the thread, thecip delivered:
You’ll never take this from me, photobucket bitches!!!
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 9:45 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
hawt harrelson
i also like the ad that popped up this morning on SSS.
hmmm…. what can we sell to guys who spend more time on a baseball message board than with their wives?
"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote
by SkanchoDanza on Jul 10, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
The right rail gets Clearasil ads.
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."
— Leo Durocher
... and hand lotion...
My facebook account had an ad for a t-shirt that says “BACON makes everything better.” It made me wonder if the White Sox-to-Bacon marketing link was being played. … it nearly worked on me, honestly.
"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote
by SkanchoDanza on Jul 10, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I think that's a cip original design. You know he makes tees, right?
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
lost. they're all lost.
I submit designs to the shirt.woot.com contest maybe twice a month. Never won but I finished in the top 10 a few times. I was about to start selling them on my own through a spreadshirt shop but all my designs were on that thumbdrive I lost. Maybe 12 or so. Designs of bacon astronauts, cheeseburger submarines, pirate-ridden dinosaurs eating ninjas.
very sad.
member of a "solid community of fans" and "a meathead."
pirate-ridden dinosaurs eating ninjas? That's right up my alley!
very sad indeed. I would have purchased said pirate-ridden dinosaurs eating ninjas shirt. Doh.
...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT
I have a few shirts from there.
I would have snatched up your cheeseburger submarine eating dinosaurs with pirate astronaut shirts.
oh, and to the guy that tried to talk to me at home depot because we were both wearing woot shirts that one day:
beat it, freak! you don’t see me trying to cozy up to everyone I see that happens to be wearing their fruit of the looms on the same day as me.
You should post a letter on craigslist. :)
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
This is a bummer man. It's a bummer.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
it has to be somewhere.
i’m confident one day it will turn up. i just hope its not in a landfill.
member of a "solid community of fans" and "a meathead."
Is that what all those cemetary workers are doing? Looking for your lost something or other?
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."
— Leo Durocher
That's pretty stellar. Apparently Ax realized that they were wasting their ad bucks on us.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Im ashamed to admit I use axe snake peel shower gel.
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
Is it made from bits of real snake peel?
60% of the time it works every time?
"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote
by SkanchoDanza on Jul 10, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Axe...I knew I wasn't spelling it right but didn't care enough to check. I don't know about the snake peel stuff, but that spray is nast.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Good thing you are <30.
You’d have been wearing Hai Karate in the day. Are you Mayday Malone’s kid?
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
old spice, sir. no need to go showing off. just smell like a man. in his 60s.
Cashing checks and having sex.
Just be careful in your ascent to being the ultimate man -
see what happened to this idiot:
http://cbs2chicago.com/sports/running.of.the.2.1079988.html
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
Jeebus, my dad really was you before you were you.
FML.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Yikes...that's a hang whiffem
Formerly Crede's Crew
does it help you get rid of mites?
swallow live rats whole?
member of a "solid community of fans" and "a meathead."
I never get the fun ads
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 10, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Can't get divorced if you never been married
Joke’s on you, ad, I don’t need you [yet] [look me up in 3-4 years] [thank you]!
¡signature!
Y'all know that the talk around the Orioles clubnouse was that --
SS went both ways. ( Don’t shoot me, I’m just the messenger)
Clearly. Where do you think his other hand is in that picture?
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
now that's a reach(around)
by Scotty Ballgame on Jul 10, 2009 11:09 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Please. Only heterosexual women read Playgirl! He's posing for the ladies! Your claim is erotic... er... erroneous!
"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote
by SkanchoDanza on Jul 10, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Stoney always wanted to play for the Bears.
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."
— Leo Durocher
I don't know. I think he grew up in Brown country.
must. resist. creative. spelling. of. country…
"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote
by SkanchoDanza on Jul 10, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
What? No. Cleveland! There's a red moon rising on the Cuyahoga River.
Burn on, big river, burn on.
"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote
by SkanchoDanza on Jul 10, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
HA! He definitely qualifies in terms of hiruteness.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
*hirsuteness
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
well when I found a copy of that issue online
It was in the gay mens magazine section.
I didnt but it, mostly because it was $25 with shipping.
I wanted to bring it to blog night and try to get him to sign it.
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
I think his statement is clear
Remember when "Cuban Pride" meant something...
haha
i didnt buy it, i butted it, and waddled my way outta there!
free stinky magazine for the win.
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
this is a t-shirt I would buy
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
Absolutely. JIM?!!
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
hahaha!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
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You kids are spoiled rotten.
Not even a mention of Cheat’s great photo caption?
Sheesh.
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."
— Leo Durocher
yeah its good
like the new sig, too.
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
Maybe you should up your daily SSS to 6 hours.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Looking forward to this weekend series
Good test at the right time.
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
Hell yes! The trash-talking and glares have already begun between my coworker Twins fan and me. What are the odds that I'd be in the same group as an effing Twins fan in Seattle?
We hate one another. He likes to inform me whenever Crede does something good….as if I didn’t know he was capable. Asshole.
:)
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
heh. heh. heh. heh. heh. I cannot wait....
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
i hear the twins have this young guy named david ortiz. wonder whatever happened to him
got injured a bit, maybe someday he can turn it around for them
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Jul 10, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
even if we get swept, we're still in this - that's thinking tdogg styles am i correct?
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 10, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah but that would be disheartening
The matchups are good and the team is playing well. I expect to win 2 but 1 should be a minimum.
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
Hey now, hater! I am with Tdogg...positivity until the end....
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed...matchups are all pretty good too...going to be a fun weekend
Formerly Crede's Crew
I'll be satisfied (but not happy) with 1 win.
"To play for me you have to have some balls." - Ozzie Guillen (6/30/09)
Be more realistic
We have our best pitchers going out there this weekend. We should be able to get 3 wins in this series.
As long as Danks goes far into the game tonight, our bullpen will be rested after yesterday’s debauchery. Tonight will be a pitcher’s duel. Tomorrow is a toss up. Sunday should be another W for Buehrle.
I believe they have won 1 of their last 10 at that miserable excuse for a stadium
However, I’m drinking the kool aid (Leine Summer Shandy, actually) with you and hoping for the best.
I’m still curious as to how successful the Twins will be starting next year in an open air stadium. Those April and May games will be a delight.
"To play for me you have to have some balls." - Ozzie Guillen (6/30/09)
Twins fans are insane
and they would kill for this open air stadium to be ready at the moment. It will be cold in april/may, but I dont think they will care. Besides, its not like they will be playing in October.
Jesus, that fucking place is still around?
Seriously, didn’t Frodo destroy it this off season or something?
by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 10, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
BP hit list moving up
Danks Blanks: John Danks outduels Zack Greinke, running his streak of scoreless innings to 19 1/3. He’s yielded just six runs over his last five starts while tossing at least seven innings each time, with a 1.51 ERA that’s been accompanied by similarly strong stretches from Jose Contreras (2.06) and Gavin Floyd (2.12). The rotation as a whole has put together a 2.89 ERA since Contreras’ June 8 return from the minors, and their 18-10 record is enough to push them into second in the AL Central.
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
We also moved up from 19th to 12th on cnnsi.com's rankings, fwiw
Formerly Crede's Crew
May I be the first of the day:
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH PUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sigless
Not that this means a thing against the Sox
Nick Punto #8
2009 STATS
BA HR RBI OBP SLG
.211 0 16 .322 .234
Oz+Coop+Hawk= baseball trinity
Stay grindy my friends
Formerly Crede's Crew
The most interesting Sox fan in the world
"To play for me you have to have some balls." - Ozzie Guillen (6/30/09)
by tailgater on Jul 10, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Those look similar to his career stats, too.
(I’m kidding. I haven’t looked. But I bet he’s not far off from the slash line.) But if there was a stat for “head-first slides into 1B” he’d be right up there.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
Nick Punto
against the sox this season – .353/.400/.353
at the dome – .196/.339/.228
confused? I sure am.
against the White Sox
he has more hits, 5 more RBI and 8 more stolen bases(having a 16:1 success ratio) than against any other opponent. His OPS in the ninth inning and in innings 10+ combine for about 60 points better than in any other inning.
The bastard.
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 10, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
He tries harder to be noticed against us
because Ozzie is his role model.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
I say Danks or Jenks
hits him in the FACE.
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
And then Paulie roundhouse cletes him in the mout when he gets to first!!
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
no, id rather have baines make punto bite the bag
and bag stomp the fucker.
I just accidentally the Fleshlight.
Accidentally what?
THE WHOLE THING!!
That is all correct, except the decimal placement.
BA: 2,111.00
HR: 100,000
RBI: 16,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
OBP: 322,000.00
SLG: EEEEEEEEEE
by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 10, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
why, because he's white?
if he was a twin killer with game winning hits, i may be inclined to agree, but he’s not…perhaps i’ll stand corrected this weekend.
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 10, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
my sox are white
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Jul 10, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
my socks are white
I love this team again. I know they’re bad for me.
They’ll probably get drunk again and beat me… but I just can’t help myself.
by ReservoirDog on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT
My sex is white?
DAMMIT.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 10, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
You wish, dark man.
And you just killed your parents. Nice job, DB.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And lost his inheritance.
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
OT: For the OPOS - Orlando Signs Brandon Bass, 4 yr deal
Not a bad lineup…Nelson, VC, Lewis, Bass, Howard
Formerly Crede's Crew
Just seems like the other teams have gotten a lot better
LA, Cleveland, Boston. Maybe Carter will put together one last great year though
by ThisIsJustBanter on Jul 10, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
"A lot".
We’ll see how Shaq/Artest/Sheed mix with their new teammates. We’ll have the same issues with Carter. Should be interesting.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
Meh, lateral moves
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 10, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know man...teams are just loading up...the top 4 in each league are pretty sick in my opinion
Formerly Crede's Crew
Never mix basketball with baseball
"To play for me you have to have some balls." - Ozzie Guillen (6/30/09)
"Embarrassing baseball"
If only the MLB’s biggest problem in the 90s was the most popular athlete of the modern era playing minor league ball.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 10, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow SI was absolutely obnoxious
I hate that “guardians of the game” junk. Plus, as you point out the self-appointed guardians did a pretty bad job guarding the damn game. I’m pretty sure there’s an SI cover celebrating Sosa and McGuire for “saving baseball”. Idiots.
by hitlesswonder on Jul 10, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
They are the print version of ESPN
"To play for me you have to have some balls." - Ozzie Guillen (6/30/09)
I like SI
They make trips to the dentist interesting.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 10, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I let my subscription I'd had for almost 40 years
lapse 5-6 months ago. They kept sending the mag for 4 more months before realizing I hadn’t paid. Time to let go. I don’t miss it.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
i ain't missin you at all....missin youuuu
that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma
Wait ... words now come in printed form?
Seriously, where does one plug this “SI” in?
by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 10, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
haha just providing an update for the OPOS
Formerly Crede's Crew
Otis, my man!
I liked how he got money for Turk to go sign Bass. Actually, we’ve held our own this summer.
Thanks for passing it along.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
I agree. Not a prob man.
Formerly Crede's Crew
Royals attempting to keep pace with the Nats
http://twitter.com/jhamrahi/status/2572168114
I wonder what happened to our talented former prospect.
LOL must be all atwitter today.
Yuni was a “fave”.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
Wow...well looks like the Mac trade sucked all around in the end...
I guess the Royals take a pretty dim view of public urination (news story here).
by hitlesswonder on Jul 10, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I take exception w/ this comment:
“yay…not only does he suck at pitching….
but he’s not even smart enough to piss outside without getting caught”
I know plenty of ppl who’ve gotten tickets for that…I’m amazed I haven’t, but have since given up the hobby.
Formerly Crede's Crew
Will there be a Detroit-Cleveland gamethread tonight?
I hope Cleveland wins tonight w/ Lee b/c the next two matchups ain’t pretty:
Galarraga (pitching well of late) – Pavano
Verlander – Okha (really, Okha???)
Formerly Crede's Crew
Sure, they'll probably be at least two....
http://www.blessyouboys.com/
http://www.letsgotribe.com/
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
not what I had in mind, as I prefer the crisp commentary of BoeJouma...
but ty nonetheless
Formerly Crede's Crew
Ohhhhhh, I had no idea. ;) Regardless, pull your head outta your ass! We got our own fish to fry!
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
You can tell it's a Friday...I actually had to think about that. Well played
Formerly Crede's Crew
it worked the last few times i posted it, and i wont be around tonight, so here it is:
I just accidentally the Fleshlight.
Accidentally what?
THE WHOLE THING!!
That's the spirit!!!
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
all popups and no sac bunts make PUNTO a dull boy...
member of a "solid community of fans" and "a meathead."
Story for larry (note the brevity):
I was driving yesterday when I found myself behind a black Focus, excellent shiny condition, driven by a large biker-looking dude, bald head, tattoos, goatee….
He had but one sticker on his car – a very classy white lettering that stood out nicely on his shiny black car. It read: REAL MEN LOVE CATS.
I laughed hysterically.
(Naturally, I tried to get a picture, but he was gone too quickly…probably in a rush to give his sweet kitteh a big squeeze!)
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Jul 10, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Jul 10, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
HSA, you never looked so good.
Or is that TSK?
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 10, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Let the weekend begin...with a little Cubs humor
"To play for me you have to have some balls." - Ozzie Guillen (6/30/09)
aka: WU's avatar
Just [expletive] Fuck It.
by homesickalien on Jul 10, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeqh, 'gater, try and keep up.
And I don’t want to hear about how it’s too hard to spend 6-8 hours/day on SSS. If it’s to hard…you’re too old. Man up.
We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
Pods cf, Ramirez ss, Thome dh, Dye rf, PK 1b, AJ c, Getz 2b, Beckham 3b, Wise lf, Danks p.
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
Time for Beckham to morph again
1.037 OPS on the road. Why can’t dis kid hit at home?
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
Its the song - brings him down
Remember when "Cuban Pride" meant something...
I miss having a real LF
Interesting that Pods is in center over Wise
by hitlesswonder on Jul 10, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
so he can get used to it after we trade away dye.
thats my guess.
I just accidentally the Fleshlight.
Accidentally what?
THE WHOLE THING!!
put down the crack
"I'm just here to provide street cred and a rosy outlook"- translation - unemployed life coach
but... its..... so.... gooooood.....
I just accidentally the Fleshlight.
Accidentally what?
THE WHOLE THING!!
i miss ACTUAL poll questions at whitesox.com
fuck whatever song they are going to dance to, who gives a shit?
I just accidentally the Fleshlight.
Accidentally what?
THE WHOLE THING!!
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