Alex Rios Is A Gamble Worth Taking
by The Cheat on Aug 10, 2009 11:26 PM CDT
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I could probably write a few thousand words explaining why the White Sox waiver claim of Alex Rios was a great move -- and I just might by the time this post is finished -- but my best snap-judgement would just be a restating of what's been written plenty of places around the web, none more concisely than by NBC Sports' Matthew Pouiliot.
Score another one for Kenny Williams. It almost never happens that players as talented Alex Rios can be acquired without surrendering anything in return. The White Sox didn't even have to outbid 29 teams or surrender a draft pick. In Rios, they brought in a player who is about to start getting expensive, but one who figures to age well and live up to his contract.
The Jays can point to the fact that Rios' numbers have dipped in an effort to justify the move, and it is entirely possible that his OPS will end up declining for a third straight year this season. However, Rios is more than just his OPS. He's a legitimate center fielder who had no business being shoved to a corner for a declining Vernon Wells. He's a very durable player whose only DL stint in six years as a major leaguer came about because of an infected leg. He's an excellent basestealer, succeeding on 82 percent of his attempts over the last three years.
Rios will make $9.7 million next year and then $49 million over the following four years, so it's not a move without risk for the White Sox. Still, his durability and defensive value makes a collapse very unlikely. Even if he wanders aimlessly and never lives up to his potential, his athleticism should guarantee that he's something close to an average regular. It's more likely that he'll have a couple of All-Star campaigns in Chicago and prove to be a modest bargain.
Players of Rios' caliber don't exchange hands without something going in the other way in return. In fact, I'm pretty sure this is the largest waiver claim (in terms of salary left on a player's contract) in major league history. Rios was only available because of Toronto's current financial state, which was almost entirely their own doing.
J.P. Riccardi painted himself into a corner when he wasn't able to extract maximum value from the Roy Halladay trade discussions. He still had one completely unmovable contract on the roster (Vernon Wells), and not enough money to keep Halladay, Rios and Wells around going forward. Oh, and he still has to cover the rest of the B.J. R yan contract. Riccardi could probably use that contract-management resume to land himself a nice gig at [insert bailed out bank here].
There's no doubt that Kenny has taken a gamble here. But that gamble is not on Alex Rios, it's on the US economy and White Sox fans. He's built a team that can make a run at the division title this year, and then make a playoff run. He's built a team that figures to be the early AL Central favorite next year, and then keep reloading with some high-upside talent from the farm.
Williams has his eyes on the horizon. As with the Jake Peavy deal, the Rios acquisition isn't just about the next 8 weeks; it's about the next few years.
Williams has almost treated the last two weeks as a quasi-free agent period. Part of the rationale for the Peavy trade was that the White Sox would be unable to get a pitcher of his caliber on the free agent market, which can be applied to this deal as well. There weren't going to be any 3 WAR center fielders on the open market this year. And even if there were, those hypothetical center fielders were unlikely to land with the Sox and would most-likely be on the wrong side of 30.
I refer to Rios as a center fielder because that's what he is. Yes, he played right field in Toronto because of the presence of the gold-glove winning, though inferior for the last 3 seasons, Wells. But Rios is fully capable of playing a major league center field, where his career near-.800 OPS plays much more respectably.
An .800 OPS doesn't sound like much, but White Sox center fielders have combined for a .224/.282/.314 batting line this season, and have OPSed under .752 every year since '04. To put it another way, the last two times the Sox have gotten an average production from their CFers, '05 (Aaron Rowand) and '07 (when Nick Swisher got a majority of the reps and the 4th/5th guys slugged well) they've made the playoffs. More often than not in recent years, the White Sox have punted the CF position, which has led to a deification of Rowand and some to criticize Jim Thome for that which he can not control.
Of course those are probably the same people who reacted to news of the pickup with cries of "where will he play?" or "Who will leadoff?," which may as well be phrased "What are we supposed to do with all these good players?"
Rios should be the Sox starting CFer, and it's likely he'll get most of his starts there. But it's more likely that he'll be moved around much like Nick Swisher last year after the Ken Griffey Jr. trade. With the past and present leg issues of the Sox pre-Rios starting outfield, it's hard to argue with rotating playing time (though I think we all know which pixie-dealin'-with-the-devil should see the largest reduction).
For the first time this year, for the first time probably since '06, I'm relatively happy with the White Sox roster. Sure they've got some issues with the back end of the rotation right now. But they've gone through a staggering number of changes since the low point of the season which was arguably the day before the blogger appreciation suite nightback in May. I've consistently called the Sox mediocre this year, and perhaps my malaise over the last week or so has been because I no longer believed the talent-level was mediocre, only the performance.
Now there's no denying it. With Jake Peavy on the mound and Alex Rios filling the last glaring offensive weakness, the White Sox are a good team. Now it's time to play like one.
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See, I told you I'd get wrapped up writing about the non-trade. I've gotten this far and haven't even written the main point I wanted to make, the one you probably won't see written anywhere else.
When I wrote about the Peavy deal, I noted that although the Sox were picking up a hefty contract, they still had plenty of payroll flexibility going forward. Now that they add the nearly $10M salary of Rios next year, they have a little less. Take a look at the White Sox Payroll Spreadsheet and you'll see the Sox have nearly $70M in contracts committed to the '10 team. Add in the arbitration-eligible guys and you'll quickly be approaching $85M. That doesn't leave a whole lot of room to find a decent DH (Thome is a free agent) and 3rd OFer (Dye has a $12M option).
Not only that, but the Sox are well over $100M this year. I'm not sure of the exact figure -- there are lots of pro-rata deals where KW picked up salary -- but it doesn't really matter. Williams admitted that the Sox now lie "over-budget," an area I'm sure many teams occupy right now, but none of them got there by making the type of moves as Kenny.
Sometimes you have to zig while everyone else is zagging. Kenny Williams seems to be the only GM in baseball looking to take on big contracts during these uncertain economic times. He's taking a gamble that acquisitions of Peavy and Rios will pay for themselves, that the team will make a playoff run, and most of all that White Sox fans will come out to the park.
That's where you come in, or where we come in, I should say. If you want the Sox to keep their two big sluggers who may depart after this season, or if you want them to be able to be players on the free agent market, show up. If you weren't planning to go to a game for the rest of the season, make it out for one. If you were planning on making one more trip to USCF, why not make it two? You get the picture.
Let's support this team not just for their play on the field this season, but to keep giving the GM with the biggest balls in the game the opportunity to swing for the fences.
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excellent write, thank you
my guess is with arb players, we’ll be at 90-95 million for next year which means no Figgns :(
i'll delete your SSS existence in a second. there is nothing that allows SSS posters, at any one moment, to keep posting, but the mere pleasure of larry.
-larry
by blackoutsox on Aug 10, 2009 11:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I applaud Cheat for posting this during 8th inning.....
helps illustrate the point that if we win the division that’s great, but that if we don’t it’s just really not that big of deal…….FUTURE.
by stanchar on Aug 10, 2009 11:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
cheat needs sleep
no recap tonight, I decided that in the 3rd. I told myself I was only recapping a no-hitter, perfect game or a walk-off, and since we’re on the road… I had decided by the 4th
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by The Cheat on Aug 10, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
apparently this deal resulted in kenny losing $56
h/t to mouzone
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=4390120
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by U-God on Aug 10, 2009 11:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
kdub was caught jaywalking, haha
at least he wasn’t thrown into jail, maybe redneck peavy can learn something from this
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got to be the largest waiver claim ever.
In terms of the quality of player received and contract situation. Can’t think of another.
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by Shoeless In SC on Aug 10, 2009 11:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
we can obtain front line starters and CFers
but not going to win many ballgames with our current bullpen. that allen trade for pena still bothers me. i cringe every time linestink enters. not very confident in journeyman williams. tremendous reliance on carrasco to fill our back end rotation ineptitude. no telling yet if jenks will return to form. did i mention that the pena trade was upsettig?
hopefully rios shores up our horrible outfiled D, nix and his errors remain off the field and buehrle/contreras shakes out of it.
by The Scoper on Aug 11, 2009 12:06 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
excellent write-up cheat
that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma
by furby2056 on Aug 11, 2009 12:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll second that, great read.
I’ve been grinning like a maniac since this all went down.
by TheBill on Aug 11, 2009 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well done
Now we just have to win some games.
by shaftr on Aug 11, 2009 12:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know guys.
FNS + Javy >>>> Peavy + Rios
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 12:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You're all spelling it wrong!
FSF!
Everybody forgets Steve Fisher.
*beverage spills*
Ed Farmer: "Is it raining in here?"
Steve Stone: "I've made an egregious mistake."
by RWShow on Aug 11, 2009 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i definitely do not.
fuck that guy and dead ass Ed Martin.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hobby was an enigma, so i wouldn't say fuck him outright
but he had to go, ozzie had enough of him. we could have used him to eat up innings this year, and maybe the division would have been more a sure thing had he been here. but we wouldn’t have had the flexibility to get peavy and rios and compete the next couple years. and because the tallest midgest hasn’t sprouted yet, we can still compete with what we have.
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Swisher on the team this year
KW would not have signed Pods to be in center. It ended up working out more in our favor because of the need for Podsednik.
Now that Pods has had his soul collected, we no longer need him to keep pressing his athleticism. After batting well over .300 in May and June (.307 and .319), he has regressed for the last two months (something we have seen before) with a subpar performance both in the batters box and on the field (July .267 and August .282).
I go home and get in her face - Pods
by airnjp on Aug 11, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
was talking about hobby, not FNS
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I talked with someone about a month ago about Pods' higher contact rates without a drop in BABIP.
Is he still taking the slasher approach? Is he making contact any less? Is he being less successful with his contact? Is he still managing to walk as much?
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by Sky Kalkman on Aug 11, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
calculated his BABIP
May and June: .336
July and August: .316
Im gonna check out his xBABIP for those spans in a sec
He still attempts to run and swing at the same time taking the Ichiro approach every once in a while at the plate. His BBs are down from that period.
I go home and get in her face - Pods
by airnjp on Aug 11, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hes striking out more.
except for June his ‘speed’ has netted as many outs as SB.
FSP!
"Well, I dont know it might be a bad thing. I think in '07 after I threw the no-hitter we kind of fell on our faces after that, so, hopefully we get this out, celebrate tonight, go out and party and then off to Detroit for the double-header." -Mark Buehrle on 'momentum' from perfect game. Sox 7-10 since then.
by e-gus on Aug 11, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FSP
But I still think he should be a member of the White Sox in 2010 as a 4th OF. Who knows, if Q! plays more like an unhealthy Q? in 2010 then we might be seeing more of FSP in the outfield.
I go home and get in her face - Pods
by airnjp on Aug 11, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as he's cheap
He couldn’t be much worse than most 4th outfielders even if he does regress he’s probably a solid enough option. Left handed, can do some small things.
by Grinder in Training on Aug 11, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am banking on the idea that he will be cheap
just like his wife
I go home and get in her face - Pods
by airnjp on Aug 11, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wise at least can play center.
and is responsible for The Catch.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But we would allready have two guys capable of playing center in Pods and Kotsay
They are also both lefty. I know the lore of DWise will never be erased from my memory because of The Catch, but he does not replace Pods or Kotsay on the bench.
I go home and get in her face - Pods
by airnjp on Aug 11, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
neither Pods nor Kotsay are capable CFers.
perhaps Wise isn’t, but I’d like to think Kenny knew what he was doing sticking him there.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kenny puts the pieces there
Ozzie makes the lineups. Pods has outplayed Wise this year with his bat moving him into contention for a spot in 2010. Wise might get a shot at returning because Kotsay could play anywhere on the field, but I still think he plays second fiddle to a Pods or a Kotsay.
I go home and get in her face - Pods
by airnjp on Aug 11, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The other night
Hawk said Kotsay was a fabulous CFer.
But what about F-I-E-L-D-E-R-S?
by ballyb on Aug 11, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He probably was.
*beverage spills*
Ed Farmer: "Is it raining in here?"
Steve Stone: "I've made an egregious mistake."
by RWShow on Aug 11, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2004
it was a very good year.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It most certainly was not. Boston won the World Series. Any time that happens, it's a bad year.
*beverage spills*
Ed Farmer: "Is it raining in here?"
Steve Stone: "I've made an egregious mistake."
by RWShow on Aug 11, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you from new york?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Time out Greenbay. Tell that fucking bullshit to the tourists
by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shit no; south side. Just hate Red Sox fans.
*beverage spills*
Ed Farmer: "Is it raining in here?"
Steve Stone: "I've made an egregious mistake."
by RWShow on Aug 11, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i really think the step and slash thing is/was mostly for show.
his swing looks better to me. in ‘05 he had barely any load at all and slapped at everything. now he’s holding the bat upright and appears to be loading and turning better. if he had that swing earlier in his career, he’d have been less of a footnote, imo. dare i say…a Greg Walker success story?
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
New nickname: Slash! (And Lisa can be "Gash". It works.)
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
ha
"Well, I dont know it might be a bad thing. I think in '07 after I threw the no-hitter we kind of fell on our faces after that, so, hopefully we get this out, celebrate tonight, go out and party and then off to Detroit for the double-header." -Mark Buehrle on 'momentum' from perfect game. Sox 7-10 since then.
by e-gus on Aug 11, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On going to more games at USCF
I’ll go for that.
by Stealfirstbase on Aug 11, 2009 1:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not practiced or skilled with this, but allow me to compare Rios to Granderson.
Rios is less than a month older. For his career, he has slugged about fifty points lower, and has an OBP about fifteen points lower. Granderson has a bit more pop and hits more triples, while Rios steals a bit more.
So, whatever all that means, I’m not smart enough to figure out. One thing I do know is that Rios is about 50 points lower than last year on BABIP, which suggests his “down year” may be as much bad luck as anything else.
*beverage spills*
Ed Farmer: "Is it raining in here?"
Steve Stone: "I've made an egregious mistake."
by RWShow on Aug 11, 2009 1:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It was probably covered in the Rios thread, but Kenny said
He’s been watching Rios all year, and he’s been hitting a ton of line drives right at people. Didn’t use BABIP specifically, or “bad luck”, but his point was exactly yours.
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by Chiburb on Aug 11, 2009 4:16 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure he would have said the same about Swish last year
It’s just that with Swish we had other issues to deal with…
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fuck nick swisher.
it is what it is......
by BuehrleMan on Aug 11, 2009 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I find it funny that he's talked about as much as he is...still
But I’m glad in a way b/c it allows you to chime in with a FNS!
by Q!'s Qrew on Aug 11, 2009 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This also seems like it could be an opportune time to do some line-up shifting. Q and JD switching places, for example.
*beverage spills*
Ed Farmer: "Is it raining in here?"
Steve Stone: "I've made an egregious mistake."
by RWShow on Aug 11, 2009 1:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Think you're right on that one
JD’s production has been pretty weak the last 10 games while Q has started to turn the corner. Looks like he’s in pain every time he gets to 2nd but not really bothering his stroke. Return Q! to his rightful throne and reap the rewards
by Shakey on Aug 11, 2009 7:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we officially declare that Chris Young, that can't-miss prospect, missed?
Chris Young, whom the Sox traded after the 2005 season because they thought Brian Anderson would be their center fielder of the future, was optioned to Triple-A Reno.
Young, who is in the midst of a five-year, $28 million contract he signed in April of 2008, was batting .194 with seven home runs and 28 RBIs in 103 games. He hit 32 home runs and stole 27 bases in 2007.
fucking dome
by vince_ on Aug 11, 2009 7:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We won that trade...no doubt...
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was mad when Young was traded, but...
…once again, Kenny’s evaluation of his prospects worked out for the Sox. Maybe Fautino de los Santos recovers someday to regret, but so far no departing prospect is someone to miss.
Now that Rios is here for the next half decade, I wonder what value KW will get for whatever combination of Jordan Danks, John Shelby, Jared Mitchell & Trayce Thompson he’ll put on the market over the next year and a half.
by asinwreck on Aug 11, 2009 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't Rule Q out to DH long term, leaving us just Rios in the OF
And in that case you’d need at least two OF’s of that group to pan out (which is probably pretty optimistic). Shelby is really only projected to be a back up at best. I’m not saying we won’t get rid of all of them, it is Kenny Williams after all, but we could probably use at least Mitchell and Danks or Thompson.
by Grinder in Training on Aug 11, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Danks and Mitchell and Rios
sounds good to me for 2011. I could see Dye being back through some restructuring. Thome too on the cheap. Who else would sign him? We’ll have to wait and see I suppose.
I knew Young was a K machine so I didnt sweat that trade too much, but he did look good in ’07.
"Well, I dont know it might be a bad thing. I think in '07 after I threw the no-hitter we kind of fell on our faces after that, so, hopefully we get this out, celebrate tonight, go out and party and then off to Detroit for the double-header." -Mark Buehrle on 'momentum' from perfect game. Sox 7-10 since then.
by e-gus on Aug 11, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Counting on Danks and Mitchell
to both be quality starting OF is a bit risky . . . and both in 2011, even moreso. Unlikely.
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by jc2313 on Aug 11, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a bit?
straight up wishcasting.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was trying to be nice, but yes it is
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
by jc2313 on Aug 11, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its not always about the numbers!
mumbles mumbles real fan something mumbles, assholes!
"Well, I dont know it might be a bad thing. I think in '07 after I threw the no-hitter we kind of fell on our faces after that, so, hopefully we get this out, celebrate tonight, go out and party and then off to Detroit for the double-header." -Mark Buehrle on 'momentum' from perfect game. Sox 7-10 since then.
by e-gus on Aug 11, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
THEE EYEZ!
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mitchell will be a league regular
not sold on Danks yet
"Well, I dont know it might be a bad thing. I think in '07 after I threw the no-hitter we kind of fell on our faces after that, so, hopefully we get this out, celebrate tonight, go out and party and then off to Detroit for the double-header." -Mark Buehrle on 'momentum' from perfect game. Sox 7-10 since then.
by e-gus on Aug 11, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was going the opposite way on that.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
too easy
"Well, I dont know it might be a bad thing. I think in '07 after I threw the no-hitter we kind of fell on our faces after that, so, hopefully we get this out, celebrate tonight, go out and party and then off to Detroit for the double-header." -Mark Buehrle on 'momentum' from perfect game. Sox 7-10 since then.
by e-gus on Aug 11, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
happen to agree with you there
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
by jc2313 on Aug 11, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what sold you on Mitchell?
they have similar skill sets, though Mitchell has the better pedigree as a 1st round pick and is younger than Danks was at the same stage.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mostly my gut.
I did watch the CWS but thats a small sample size.
I dont know, I guess the same thing that told me Delmon Young sucked when he was pretty much the #1 prospect in baseball when I saw him man right field vs the Sand Gnats a few years ago.
"Well, I dont know it might be a bad thing. I think in '07 after I threw the no-hitter we kind of fell on our faces after that, so, hopefully we get this out, celebrate tonight, go out and party and then off to Detroit for the double-header." -Mark Buehrle on 'momentum' from perfect game. Sox 7-10 since then.
by e-gus on Aug 11, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'd have one of the best defensive outfields in the league if nothing else.
by Grinder in Training on Aug 11, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
seems to be working for the mariners
"Well, I dont know it might be a bad thing. I think in '07 after I threw the no-hitter we kind of fell on our faces after that, so, hopefully we get this out, celebrate tonight, go out and party and then off to Detroit for the double-header." -Mark Buehrle on 'momentum' from perfect game. Sox 7-10 since then.
by e-gus on Aug 11, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nuh-uh.
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was supposed to ask you if you had the garlic fries.
the mrs. says they are to die for.
"Well, I dont know it might be a bad thing. I think in '07 after I threw the no-hitter we kind of fell on our faces after that, so, hopefully we get this out, celebrate tonight, go out and party and then off to Detroit for the double-header." -Mark Buehrle on 'momentum' from perfect game. Sox 7-10 since then.
by e-gus on Aug 11, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I get them every time. It's like an entire jar of minced garlic thrown over french fries. Once the fries are gone, you still have a mound of garlic.
mmmmmmmmm
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No tonsil hockey for you last night,
but no vampires, either. So there’s that.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah just read your other post
no vampires for Nix penis either, wu.
"Well, I dont know it might be a bad thing. I think in '07 after I threw the no-hitter we kind of fell on our faces after that, so, hopefully we get this out, celebrate tonight, go out and party and then off to Detroit for the double-header." -Mark Buehrle on 'momentum' from perfect game. Sox 7-10 since then.
by e-gus on Aug 11, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's had nearly three full seasons
so far he’s posted a .320 wOBA and a -4 UZR in CF. that’s a 1 WAR average for his age 23-25 seasons.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sox fans haven't seen an honest to God Center Fielder in four years.
Rios’ first game is going to blow some minds. I have a feeling some with start running around in a highly agitated state, like the chimps in 2001 when they saw the monolith.
by 67WMAQ on Aug 11, 2009 7:57 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
What will we complain about now that the sox have a bona fide CF?
Back end of the rotation? Once peavy gets here that’s really just a 5th starter?
2B? Getz is probably not going to be a star, but if he’s our weakest offensive guy, I gotta like that lineup.
Bullpen? What team doesn’t complain about their bullpen?
This is a good team now. Let’s hope they realize it and get out of this slump!
fucking dome
by vince_ on Aug 11, 2009 7:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
jim thome.
not clutch.
it is what it is......
by BuehrleMan on Aug 11, 2009 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice.
Lots of learning and adjusting going on. Would not be surprised to see an assimilation period necessary. Next year is the thing. This year would be a bonus.
Feeling pressure, Sox fans? KW is betting on us.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 8:19 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
New guess
on # of wins this year?
But what about F-I-E-L-D-E-R-S?
by ballyb on Aug 11, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
86
they need a 0.600 clip to do that, but that might not be enough to win even at this point
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
84.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
rios and peavy illustrate why i did not believe the white sox' offseason moves had much of anything to do with money
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by larry on Aug 11, 2009 8:12 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did not know you thought that.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 8:20 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
he's been preaching it for quite a while
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by airnjp on Aug 11, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoosh.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my bad, thought you were serious
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by airnjp on Aug 11, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
great post cheat
kdub is finally achieving the balance young core / veteran star presence in the line-up and a rotation stacked with #1’s and #2’s (for other teams perhaps) since he’s been gm. but he wouldn’t have gotten to this point without ’05 after which JR has given kdub more leverage to spend (wisely).
kdub has learned a lot since becoming gm in 2001, somebody needs to write a book about this guy.
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 8:13 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
then rec it muthafucka!
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Where the White Bitches At?"
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah, nah, black is beautiful for kdub
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Blow Me, Billy Beane"
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 11, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I absolutely love this move by the White Sox.
Buh-bye CF problem, buh-bye needing to re-sign Jermaine Dye at too high of a cost, buh-bye needing overspending on any free agent.
Rios only need to be a touch above average overall to make the him worh the money and he’s got a better chance of beating that level than falling short of it.
[Side question: how did you format that pull quote so nicely, Cheat?]
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by Sky Kalkman on Aug 11, 2009 8:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
From what I'm reading he's a decent CF
It’s just the fact that Vernon Wells is there already has kept him out of position. He’s much more valuable as a CF with his offense than a RF.
"It was like everything was slow motion," Wise said. "I stuck my hand out so slowly and was able to make the catch."
by ChicagoPete on Aug 11, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, in limited time he's rated +12 runs per 150 in CF.
He’s been about the same in the corners, too, which implies he’s more like a +2 CF. That’s more than workable.
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by Sky Kalkman on Aug 11, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
~14 runs/150 for his career in RF
so +4 CF
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah tell 'em about it
hit ’em where it hurts
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So estimating...
He’s +2.5 runs in CF, gets +2.5 runs for playing CF, and +5 runs at the plate (which seems conservative as it’s only a touch ahead of his down year this year.) That’s a 3.5 WAR player right there, meaning the Sox are paying him like $3.5M per marginal win. Not great, but definitely better than many free agents. And 3.5 WAR was conservative.
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by Sky Kalkman on Aug 11, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think that means my math checks out
from my fanpost:
If 1 WAR is worth 3.5M (and pre-economic crash it was 4.4M) that means a 3 WAR player is worth 10.5M per year on the open market. His contract valuation is about 11.5M on average over the whole of the contract (that doesn’t pro-rate ’09). As Matt pointed out, there should be some inflation over the life of that contract, so the difference in the numbers is basically negligible.
And in case you were wondering what kind of “down” year he’s having, let’s check the following math. The conversion from RF/LF to CF is 10 runs and he’s a career 14 UZR150, which suggests he’d be a +4 CF. To continue WARring:
0 BRAA+ 4 FRAA + 2.5 pos adj + 20 rep = 26.5 RAR or ~2.5 WAR over 150 games. The Sox will get him for 1/3 of that 150 games. In 2009, UZR has the Sox at 9.6 FRAA per 150 games. I am somewhat skeptical of that to say the least, but it almost doesn’t matter as White Sox CFs have managed a pathetic .269 wOBA, good for -23 BRAA, dead last in all of baseball. Through 100 games, that’s basically replacement level. So adding Rios should be worth nearly a full win (.833).
y/n?
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cheat will happily reveal all his formatting tricks during the next AL Central Roundtable discussion.
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
Rec'd.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who the eff is this?
Who the eff is this?
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A ghost!
A ghost!
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the reason the gamethreads have sucked!
i mean… umm… besides the losingnessish.
by Trooper on Aug 11, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Echo!
Echo!
i'll delete your SSS existence in a second. there is nothing that allows SSS posters, at any one moment, to keep posting, but the mere pleasure of larry.
-larry
by blackoutsox on Aug 11, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good God, look at the core that's been assembled
In 2007 this team was old, expensive and sucked.
Abracadabra, lookie what we got now:
Pitching:
MB 30yrs old
Peavy 28
Danks 24
Floyd 26
Jenks 28
IF:
Beckham 22
Ramirez 27
OF:
Rios 28
Q 25
That is a solid, solid core. And KW did all this without completely cannibalizing the minors or destroying the budget.
"It was like everything was slow motion," Wise said. "I stuck my hand out so slowly and was able to make the catch."
by ChicagoPete on Aug 11, 2009 8:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you forgot Count 67yrs old
When you average it out that puts our starters average at 35.
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by airnjp on Aug 11, 2009 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
primary players/prospects given up for above mentioned players (directly)
clayton richard
aaron poreda
brandon mccarthy
freddy garcia
aaron carter
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
aaron carter...you been listening to music w/ OPOS?
by Q!'s Qrew on Aug 11, 2009 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude, do you mistake me for a pedophile
who is dees keed, how old is he? haha
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's going to be a good time
Getz has been solid at 2B too, not spectacular, but plenty good enough for this team.
Flowers, Viciedo, Hudson, Jor. Danks, Mitchell, etc.. even if only a couple pan out, we’re good to go.
by Grinder in Training on Aug 11, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah
That core is locked up contractually for at least 3 years, we have them all under control during their prime years.
"It was like everything was slow motion," Wise said. "I stuck my hand out so slowly and was able to make the catch."
by ChicagoPete on Aug 11, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*when only a couple pan out
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm tired of trotting out high bust prospects out to CF/LF that drag down the team
see BA, Fields
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
larry's right rail posts
have increased the odds of prospects turning into successful major leaguers, you didn’t know that?
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by jc2313 on Aug 11, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i always forget the Larry Factor
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The O'Larry Factor
*beverage spills*
Ed Farmer: "Is it raining in here?"
Steve Stone: "I've made an egregious mistake."
by RWShow on Aug 11, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
But I figure Flowers is at the minimum a DH, so you really only need one other guy to “make it” out of an entire minor league system to get to a couple. I wouldn’t consider that out of the realm of possibility.
by Grinder in Training on Aug 11, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
at a minimum?
you realize that’s saying he’s guaranteed to be one of the best hitters in the AL at some point? Thome has a ~900 OPS and will only be worth about 2 wins b/c of the DH position adjustment. it’s really really hard to make it as a DH/1B in this league.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to see Thomer on the team next year so Flowers can learn something in spring training from JI
JIM THOME.
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by airnjp on Aug 11, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
rios' agent was just on the radio.
he said,“i didn’t think they (toronto) would just give him away. he’s got too much value. i was wrong.”
also, he says rios is a really good baseball player!
it is what it is......
by BuehrleMan on Aug 11, 2009 8:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what other teams are having cash problems?
The White Sox have now taken advantage of two strapped ownership groups. It’s as if the Kansas City A’s are back in business in San Diego and Toronto. Who else is looking to shed payroll badly? I’d guess the Mets’ Madoff woes wouldn’t be enough to pry David Wright loose, but that’s a fun scenario to consider.
by asinwreck on Aug 11, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His agent said he was a really good baseball player?
WOW. I MEAN WOW.
by Shakey on Aug 11, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know.
hard to believe, isn’t it?
it is what it is......
by BuehrleMan on Aug 11, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but how many pitches per plate appearance does he see?
"Well, I dont know it might be a bad thing. I think in '07 after I threw the no-hitter we kind of fell on our faces after that, so, hopefully we get this out, celebrate tonight, go out and party and then off to Detroit for the double-header." -Mark Buehrle on 'momentum' from perfect game. Sox 7-10 since then.
by e-gus on Aug 11, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting to see how Rios does away from T.O. (not the football player)
The Jays have been pretty blah the past couple of years, a good on the field team without enough pitching – much of due to constant injuries.
Never a realistic hope of catching the Yankees or BroSox right from the beginning of each season so although Cito Gaston is a great handler of people I think players on that team haven’t held out playoff hopes for quite a while.
So let’s see what Rios does with a team (or is it team in a division) that has a chance.
by Dick Allen's batting helmet on Aug 11, 2009 8:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think this is huge for Rios
I’ve heard a few times that he never really totally gave a shit at times (don’t know how true that is) but I think being here, in a pennant race, around Ozzie, around other veteran stars and budding young stars is really going to pump this guy up…not to mention, hitting in the Cell never hurt anyone.
by Q!'s Qrew on Aug 11, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
except for FNS, haha
sorry, had to mention
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
from whom did you hear that he didn't give a shit at times?
who could it be……i don’t know…..could it be…..
COWLEY?!?!
it is what it is......
by BuehrleMan on Aug 11, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Baines will light a fire under him
Sox win, cubs lose.....what a wonderful world!
by picktoclick on Aug 11, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The pressure of helping a mediocre team earn the right to lose to the Yankees/Red Sox/Angels
I think he has all the experience in handling that.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 11, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
very nice post
and you mention this briefly but no one seems to be talking about it much anymore. i’m talking about Q’s foot problem. (and if i’m not mistaken i thought i heard kenny on the radio yesterday also say something about Q’s knee.)
i would not be surprised at all to see Q miss significant time or go down altogether. he really does not look good running to me. if that happens cowley will be able to stop worrying about where rios will play.
it is what it is......
by BuehrleMan on Aug 11, 2009 8:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I still see him only in 2/3 of the remaining games this year.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fewer is likely to me.
hope not though. my eyes have seen him hit the ball hard multiple times.
it is what it is......
by BuehrleMan on Aug 11, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
checked Q's wiki page
White Sox fans bestowed the nickname “TCQ,” standing for “The Carlos Quentin.” The name originated from a quote from GM Ken Williams after he acquired Quentin.
wtf?? white sox fans don’t read blogs??
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 8:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he's Q!perman dammit.
member of a "solid community of fans" and "a meathead."
by thecip on Aug 11, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I held Q!perman proudly. Some other Sox fans took a pic with me and the sign.
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by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
peavy, and now rios, are classic contrarian plays.
‘buy when they’re crying, sell when they’re yelling." from a baseball standpoint, i like the deals as they provide the team tremendous flexibility at depressed market costs. in effect, it serves to pull the future into the right now without sacrificing the future from a young talent standpoint. i also wonder if these were not shots across the bow to the incoming ownership group of the sox true main competitor (for the chicagoarea entertainment dollar).
the peavy /rios acquisitions are a medium sized financial risk but offer tremendous upside should their contributions lead to the playoffs and beyond this season and in later seasons.
by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on Aug 11, 2009 9:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the Rios and Peavy deals are actually quite different.
Rios is buying in a down year, didn’t cost any players in return, and will probably earn less than he’s worth as a free agent. He’s also not a pitcher.
Peavy is also down this year, but is overrated because of the NL and PETCO, cost a decent amount in trade, and will be paid almost exactly what he’s worth on the free agent market. He’s a pitcher.
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by Sky Kalkman on Aug 11, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Peavy would almost certainly
get more on the FA market, it is ludicrous to suggest anything else. Probably similar $ on an annual basis, but the years would be probably 2x as long. Sort of a big deal to understand . . . its not as though if Peavy were a FA after this season they just could have given him 3/52 and call it a day.
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by jc2313 on Aug 11, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh mlbtraderumors
stay classy
Let me clarify my Podsednik/Konerko comparison…
Podsednik does these things better than Konerko…
speed
versatility
defense
base running/stealing
hitting to contact
disrupting the pitchers focus (not the same thing as base running, it simply means he demands the attention of the pitcher away from what he wants to focus on more than facing Konerko in the batters box)Konerko does these things better than Podsednik…
hitting for power
driving in runsOn a team stacked with power hitting RBI machines and very few table setters, they need Podsednik leading off more than they need Konerko hitting 4th to 6th in the lineup.
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by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Aug 11, 2009 9:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Versatility?
Because he can play bad defense at two positions?
by joewho112 on Aug 11, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that must be a reader's comment
but what value does this site pose???
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tends to post stuff before it hits the radio or press releases
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by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Aug 11, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
disrupting pitchers focus
until the first pick off move
"Well, I dont know it might be a bad thing. I think in '07 after I threw the no-hitter we kind of fell on our faces after that, so, hopefully we get this out, celebrate tonight, go out and party and then off to Detroit for the double-header." -Mark Buehrle on 'momentum' from perfect game. Sox 7-10 since then.
by e-gus on Aug 11, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
defense?
FSP
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by airnjp on Aug 11, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was my first reaction. Defense?????!
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A day in the life of a Sox fan in Seattle.
Getting into the elevator to leave work yesterday afternoon, Sox jersey on, a guy in the elevator took a long look at me and says, “So, are you a real Sox fan?”
I gave him a look that more than appropriately answered his stupid question.
What was he looking for? “No, I just got this gear when Obama was sworn into office.”
Fucking douchenozzle.
Aaaannnnyyyyywayyyy.
Got 10th row seats down the 3rd base line, right in front of one fine Beckham.
He should have made that play on the high grounder…grrr.
And his throw to Nix was off, but what a double play Nix managed to turn on that!
Dude behind me at the game starts immediately talking about how shitty Pods is on defense, so I turned around and told him yeah, we knew that and added that we just got Rios.
Who’s Rios?
Then he went on to say that he likes most Sox players, but their downfall is Ozzie Guillen. He talks too much, he said. He’s a media whore.
At this point, I moved a row down so I didn’t have to hear him anymore. ESPN-fed imbecile.
Later, however, I came back with some garlic fries and his mom (I think) said, “Hey thanks for buying some rally fries!” I replied that if I had to live in this godforsaken city, I may as well eat the few tasty things they have to offer me.
She got pissed. “I like this city.”
golf claps for her.
Tough loss, but great seeing Q hit a couple doubles and Floyd was somewhat Big…lacked some Hairy. Probably should not have gone back out, but hindsight is such a splendid thing.
Did I actually witness an ok Linebrink appearance? Did mine eyes deceive me?
Was the ump at all inconsistent on calling the corners?
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 10:31 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
according to the game thread
you couldn’t tell b/c of the tv angle.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hide it well. That's my only former-Chicagoan buddy out here, who wasn't planning on going until our plans for Wednesday's game. But he stepped up when he found out I was ronery.
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ronery eh?
You hide your orientalness too.
by Shakey on Aug 11, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just trying to fit in out here.
:P
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Getting to know you! Getting to know all about you!
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like the hat
Had the same one for years . . . am a bit superstitious and that was my lucky hat. Wore it everyday during the 05’ run. Needless to say, it was a bit crusty and my wife accidently washed it and it fell apart.
Single tear
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by jc2313 on Aug 11, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh nooooes! I've had it since before '05, wore it throughout as well...has become my lucky one over the years. It's not '83, but rather '85...I got it because that was the first full season I was alive for, regardless of how the team was. :)
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah well the luck run out.
"Well, I dont know it might be a bad thing. I think in '07 after I threw the no-hitter we kind of fell on our faces after that, so, hopefully we get this out, celebrate tonight, go out and party and then off to Detroit for the double-header." -Mark Buehrle on 'momentum' from perfect game. Sox 7-10 since then.
by e-gus on Aug 11, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my lucky 1959 shirt had gone 7-0 til sunday
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by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Aug 11, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i got an 1983 winning ugly pennant
shirt that I wear to every game, whether out by itself or under a jersey.
by soxshenanigans on Aug 11, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. My very first Sox game in Seattle in which they lost. True story. Good things to come tonight and tomorrow....
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you going to all three?
"Well, I dont know it might be a bad thing. I think in '07 after I threw the no-hitter we kind of fell on our faces after that, so, hopefully we get this out, celebrate tonight, go out and party and then off to Detroit for the double-header." -Mark Buehrle on 'momentum' from perfect game. Sox 7-10 since then.
by e-gus on Aug 11, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yessm.
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice.
"Well, I dont know it might be a bad thing. I think in '07 after I threw the no-hitter we kind of fell on our faces after that, so, hopefully we get this out, celebrate tonight, go out and party and then off to Detroit for the double-header." -Mark Buehrle on 'momentum' from perfect game. Sox 7-10 since then.
by e-gus on Aug 11, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wish I could mobile post...dangit!!!
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did not know you are a fake Indian.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 1:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I feel someone should've informed the class before now that hsa is hot.
More specifically, someone should’ve informed me, as I was unaware.
*beverage spills*
Ed Farmer: "Is it raining in here?"
Steve Stone: "I've made an egregious mistake."
by RWShow on Aug 11, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you had been around for the meetup in may you would have known.
gotta say I was pretty surprised about the half price head, though.
by Trooper on Aug 11, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PS.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that picture conveniently omits the huge ghetto booty she's sporting. it's gigantic.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Aug 11, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
woke up this morning and my eyes won't focus
Is it a stroke? pink eye? epilepsy?
HELP ME KENNY!!!
member of a "solid community of fans" and "a meathead."
by thecip on Aug 11, 2009 10:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bukkakke.
Go get a washcloth.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
'glazed doughnut'
member of a "solid community of fans" and "a meathead."
by thecip on Aug 11, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cumjunctivitis
knocked his fucking dick in the dirt! - BuehrleMan
by BoeJouma on Aug 11, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got a shoutout on a chick friend yankee blogger's site re: Rios
“Alex Rios has been passed like a relay baton over to the ChiSox, igniting the rapt delight of my buddy (redacted), who has essentially been teetering on the brink of complete mania ever since Buelrhe’s perfecto.”
I liked this description of myself, but immediately thought of HSA in reference to Buehrle. If I’m teetering on the brink of complete mania…well yeah, then I just don’t know
by Q!'s Qrew on Aug 11, 2009 11:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and?
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Aug 11, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That belongs to Landis. He is not worthy.
Sox win, cubs lose.....what a wonderful world!
by picktoclick on Aug 11, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought we retired that after Willie.
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to Yahoo's player page
he’s wearing 18
by ChiSox3 on Aug 11, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whos being sent down to make room for Rios?
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart
by Jbasic89 on Aug 11, 2009 11:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Torres...no 5th starter needed until the 18th
by Q!'s Qrew on Aug 11, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't they say Freddy Garcia could be making that start?
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart
by Jbasic89 on Aug 11, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind it was Torres.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart
by Jbasic89 on Aug 11, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone know how Peavy's bullpen session went last night?
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart
by Jbasic89 on Aug 11, 2009 11:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I HATE YOU, SEATTLE!
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 11:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Go East, young woman. Go East.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding. Killing my soul.
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's better than what he's got up north
heard the ontario provincial police have an APB out on him for grand theft
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by thatshortkid on Aug 11, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"we have an APB on a GM killa"
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
same thing popped in my head.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Aug 11, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kenny Williams, practitioner of Toad Style.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think she is mad because thew newspapers didnt write an article about her J-Walking ticket
I go home and get in her face - Pods
by airnjp on Aug 11, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What maddens me:
Because of this great system Seattle has created for its pedestrians and drivers alike, it encourages people to blindly trust crosswalks.
So at least a couple times per month, I’ll be at my cruising speed and have to slam on my brakes because some idiot wanders out into the road without looking to see if a car is coming, let alone whether that car is going to stop.
I get yelled at by pedestrians regularly for not slamming on my brakes.
And I realize that as a driver, I’M the asshole because the poor pedestrian was in a crosswalk…yada yada.
And I’ll even abide by the crosswalk when I see the ped out there with enough notice. But SO many of these times, they just appear from behind a parked car or something and then throw a fit when I don’t stop on a dime.
Take some responsibility for your own life. LOOK before you step out into a road. That crosswalk is not a bubble that somehow stops my vehicle from removing you from this earth.
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by thatshortkid on Aug 11, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Donte Stallworth agrees with you
by Scotty Ballgame on Aug 11, 2009 1:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, I'm a big asshole.
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You still have not said why you think the site is populated with a-holes.
(I thought we already knew that.) What’s changed?
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you see last night's game thread? they are getting kinda brutal.
i don’t respond to anyone i don’t care for with the exception of an occasional “ssh?”.
it is what it is......
by BuehrleMan on Aug 11, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't Zapruder film examine it.
As one who may cloak, please flag inappropriate comments so I (and Chi) can get an idea of who is deemed offensive. Besides me, or course.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i only ever flag you.
you guys get emailed flaggings or what? i just assumed they went into some database to be read by an intern.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see them.
And the post turns a wonderful shade of red/pink (think CHINA), so it’s easy to pick out. Since green is a color rarely seen any more.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so you can see the reason, too?
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see the reason for flaggings. Does that mean that all this time I've had the keys to the mansion?
by CWSKeith on Aug 11, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
flagged!
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, the flag button brings up a whole tattle-tale box!
was wondering wtf the talk about reasons was about.
by Trooper on Aug 11, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
should have that for recs too.
BECAUSE IT MADE ME GIGGLE.
by Trooper on Aug 11, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
recommended.
reason: Trooper is funnay.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DK - can you see it turn red. too?
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't say it was populated. Just said the gamethreads were once fun.
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is less fun now? That's what I'm trying to get at.
Quality control and all.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
some commenters
have an eerie ssh like quality. also can’t seem to keep up.
it is what it is......
by BuehrleMan on Aug 11, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flag 'em so we can frag 'em.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i have been.
it is what it is......
by BuehrleMan on Aug 11, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
but i’ve just been waiting for one of them to tell larry to “fuck off”
and wait for the fireworks
i'll delete your SSS existence in a second. there is nothing that allows SSS posters, at any one moment, to keep posting, but the mere pleasure of larry.
-larry
by blackoutsox on Aug 11, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's fine, some new posters have to realize this site isn't like chicagotribune.com
Humor comes and goes on the game threads, what can you do?
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 11, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's been a sad lack of Carl Weathers and Rally Cars
which probably explains our underwhelming record.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crosswalk?
don’t they have stop lights?
by hoodlight on Aug 11, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. Those too. And the peds here stand at the lights at entirely empty intersections and wait for the signal. There is no sense of improvisation in street-crossing here.
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's your fault
you should slow down approaching the ’ crosswalk ’ over here, you hit someone on a zebra Crossing you are lucky if you escape a jail sentence.
by hoodlight on Aug 11, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I slowed down for every crosswalk painted on the streets here, I would never be able to drive above 10 mph.
I’m not a crazy driver, nor do I have it out for all pedestrians. As I said, I stop if I see there is a ped waiting.
There is a difference, tho, when someone meanders out into the road from behind a parked car, thinking they don’t have to take any responsibility.
They are the susceptible ones, and it makes sense to me that they would want to protect themselves as a priority, rather than trust a driver.
That’s all.
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you should drink (more) before you drive
so GIT will agree with you.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't plan on getting into this one.
I do completely agree with her though.
And you’re correct, if you’re sober you really aren’t doing it right.
by Grinder in Training on Aug 11, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ped on ped crime
is out of control over here.
it is what it is......
by BuehrleMan on Aug 11, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do they ticket for crossing against the light?
I was ticketed in Santa Monica once for exactly that after wondering why the idiots were not walking against the light when no cars were visible. There was not one car within 3/4 of a mile of me and the cop pulled me over – in my suit and briefcase, walking 6 blocks to work.
So maybe your citizenry is being terrorized by the cops.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They probably do... haven't experienced it yet, but this is a city that issues tickets for honking your horn. So I assume so, yes.
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
racist bastards
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
by jc2313 on Aug 11, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually the cop was a brother.
So, yes.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reverse-racist bastards.
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
(ftr, I LOATHE that term, "reverse-racism." Only white people could make that shit up.)
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it fucking exists. black people HATE white people.
Took 3 years to find out about disco demolition night.
by Jackkoho on Aug 11, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
isn't that just, uh, racism?
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by thatshortkid on Aug 11, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What tsk said.
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
erm - I guess the term I meant was reverse discrimination. where the majority is discriminated against.
and i was overstepping by saying black people hate white people.
some black people hate some white people, just like the other way around.
Took 3 years to find out about disco demolition night.
by Jackkoho on Aug 11, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there aren't directions in discrimination, either.
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by thatshortkid on Aug 11, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
matter of opinion, I guess, I'm not the only person that agrees that it exists.
Took 3 years to find out about disco demolition night.
by Jackkoho on Aug 11, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big difference for acknowledging it exists.... I mean, it's obvious plenty of other colors of people hate white people. Wouldn't you too? ;)
What we’re nitpicking, is the terminology.
Discrimination is discrimination. Racism is racism.
These terms aren’t reserved for white people, so to call it “reverse-” anything is unnecessary.
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 12, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there is scale though.
something i’m not entirely sure mr. ho is aware of.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there is a lot more of that racism than the opposite.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Aug 11, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's nothing worse than being called a cracka ass cracka.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm of the opinion that encouraging jaywalking
gets lots of people always crossing streets and hence makes peds safer. i have no idea if that is actually true. whatever the laws, i’m walking.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can cross the street wherever you like here
if you are not on a crossing and get hit though, tough shit
by hoodlight on Aug 11, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't a buddy of yours get smacked as a pedestrian there?
You guys have short memories…
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I recall hoodie admitting it was mostly his drunk mate's fault, sad as it was.
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by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes he did
he was arseholed though, not the drivers fault
by hoodlight on Aug 11, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As it is in Chicago.
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As it was in the beginning...
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
..is now and forever shall be
Yes. Hell yes. Mercy. Grab bench. - O.M.
by oahu420 on Aug 11, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
world with out end. Qmen.
I go home and get in her face - Pods
by airnjp on Aug 11, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not completely i think
i was told you’re still at fault no matter what. even if you hit the dudes selling shit car-to-car, walking in between lanes of traffic
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by thatshortkid on Aug 11, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that sounds right... I was not speaking to the law as much as I was to the "accepted." Meaning, if it's red and there are no cars, you walk regardless of signal. Or it's the middle of the street and you see a chance to get across, you take it,
crosswalk or no.
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by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd be okay with that.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FNS
go white sox
YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD YES!
www.reverbnation.com/czheckproductions
by Czheck on Aug 11, 2009 12:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am rarely shocked by how dumb the chicago media is
but WOW
Podsednik’s resurgence has been the story of the season for the White Sox. After rejuvenating his career and the Sox lineup from the leadoff spot, another hero from ‘05 was also hoping for a long-term deal to remain on the South Side.
Rios is a better defensive center fielder, however, which will no-doubt factor into Williams decision, as should the fact that with Podsednik’s return Chicago finally has a legitimate leadoff hitter for the first time since he left.
by madvillian on Aug 11, 2009 12:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You forgot that in Chicago, leadoff hitter is a position for both sides of town
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by airnjp on Aug 11, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my god, that entire article is shite. even the retarded ass poll
[link]
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by thatshortkid on Aug 11, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the best part is that 21 people think Q is the "most expendable" player
My goodness.
by madvillian on Aug 11, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I find it irritating
that this team has to be “sold” to the fans. I, admittedly, have been to fewer games this season. I don’t have as much disposable cash, but I’ve been to a handful of games and going to a couple more. The fans need to show up and support this team. It has always bothered me how fickle a lot of Sox fans are. Show up to a beautiful ballpark, with great concession stands (mmm elotes), and support an exciting team! I know, I’m preaching to the choir.
by jimmyjr on Aug 11, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
fickle??
damn straight a team has to be ‘sold’ to the fans…would you pay to see a team that trotted out andy gonzalez and darin erstad in the starting line-up? we’ve been above average in attendance since ‘05. i’m not sure about ‘09, but the economic climate is a big factor and i don’t blame folks watching their pocketbooks and prioritizing.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Time out Greenbay. Tell that fucking bullshit to the tourists
by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as I said
I also have cut back on the number of games I’ve gone to. I don’t fault people for saving money by cutting back on sporting events. However, you must admit that the fan base is less than loyal and they don’t show up at the drop of a hat. While they’ve hit a rough patch here and there, the Sox are trotting out 100 loss teams year after year and dumping payroll. They are in contention more than not and deserve more of a presence at the Cell. BTW, the Sox are 17th in MLB in attendance this year with a 68.5% capacity at USCF.
by jimmyjr on Aug 11, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
alright alright, that said
hopefully the recent moves will generate excitement in the fanbase
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still of the opinion, the fans aren't fickle, the Sox just have a smaller bandwagon contingent
This team could win another World Series, but they aren’t going to have an attendance rebirth like the Blackhawks.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 11, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Time out Greenbay. Tell that fucking bullshit to the tourists
by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who gives a shit? The economy is recovering from a recession
And you’re advocating people spend money on an entertainment product that might not be entertaining? Fuck that.
It bothers me how much some Sox fans care about attendance because they’re too insecure about their team in comparison to the Cubs.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 11, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
totally
you fickle ass motherfucker ;)
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Wut are you talking about. I’m talking about going to a fucking ballgame and your talking recessions? What are you talking about the Cubs for?
by jimmyjr on Aug 11, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
watch the news much?
going to ball game especially if you want to take your kids costs $$$…you want to call them fickle be my fucking guest
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It costs money to attend a Sox game.
Maybe you’re 3 years old, and you sit on your mother’s lap for free, but the rest of us pay straight cash homey.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 11, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whah? you're not a trust fund kid? aren't both of your parents doctors?
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pepsi cans ftw
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by Ozzie Montana on Aug 11, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha, me too before i moved
and mondays, because i don’t think you needed the pepsi can
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Time out Greenbay. Tell that fucking bullshit to the tourists
by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get a better, higher paying job
Don’t hate me for having one.
by jimmyjr on Aug 11, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you talk to jimmy sr with that mouth?
¡signature!
by billyok on Aug 11, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha, yes Billy
amazing how a comment about wanting more fans to show up at the park turns into this. Great posts guys, way to contribute.
by jimmyjr on Aug 11, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Complaining that people don't spend enough money in a time where money is tight...
Yeah, hard to see it leading to this conversation.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Aug 11, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, the worthless loser with a blog no one reads chimes in
Why don’t you get a high paying job like Jimmy Jr.
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by Ozzie Montana on Aug 11, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he took all the money he made from his porn video game
and invested in a company that takes down bank signs.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
save that shit for your OT thread son
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Time out Greenbay. Tell that fucking bullshit to the tourists
by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
blame tracy jordan.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna take this thread behind the school and get it pregnant
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by Ozzie Montana on Aug 11, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey, hey, that's a little harsh, OM.
Are you upset about grad school? WTF? August heat seems to be getting to folks.
And we just got Rios! 2010 here we come!
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i totally agree.
i mean the negative change in job losses has almost turned to zero! it’s not like the population to jobs ratio is as high as its been for 25 years or something. it’s almost like there was never a catastrophic meltdown of the financial sector.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting
Way to blow this wayyyyy out of proportion guys. Not sure how my be irritated by the team having to be “sold” to the fanbase deserves four people talking about recessions and job loss and personal attacks, but I guess I’m not a regular on this site and you guys just love each other so much. Didn’t think it was such a big deal, but I stand corrected. Now I think the Cheat should apologize for suggesting that people go to more games.
by jimmyjr on Aug 11, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
um, did cheat call sox fans fickle??
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly!
why respond to the suggestion that people should get better, higher paying jobs by contextualizing that with the economic situation that is responsible for the nigh impossibility of said suggestion? it’s ludicrous! this fucking website is just a bunch of homosexuals who hate everybody except Nick Swisher.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was meant as a sarcastic reply
to me being called a 3 year old. It wasn’t a blanket statement for Beckham’s sake!
by jimmyjr on Aug 11, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if the get a higher paying job jab was sincerely meant as sarcasm
i’ll take the asshole comment back. i talked to garbage collector on my street last night, the man is 70 years old, was staff (dining services) at harvard for many years and he still has to do this to make ends meet…so pardon my frustration when fans are referred to as fickle…
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Time out Greenbay. Tell that fucking bullshit to the tourists
by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, it was sarcasm.
I’m not really an asshole, at least I don’t think I am. I don’t appreciate people attacking me for writing a seemingly innocent post. I really don’t get where all the anger came from when I was just agreeing with the Cheat in hoping more fans showed up. Maybe fickle was a poor choice of words. For that I apologize, but when some clown calls me a 3 year old I’m not going to just sit here. I’m going to get internet tough!
by jimmyjr on Aug 11, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oui.
“fans are fickle” and “fans respond to incentives” are entirely different things.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not entirely
Sox win, cubs lose.....what a wonderful world!
by picktoclick on Aug 11, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
one is governed by caprice, the other by reason.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
aaight, enough said (for me) jj
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with this post.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The 3 year old comment was also sarcasm
If it will ease tensions, I will buy you a frogurt.
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by Ozzie Montana on Aug 11, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kumbaya my lord, kumbaya
I was gonna post the entire song, but there are only like 6 unique words out of the 500.
mercy.
by Trooper on Aug 11, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
like Hawk doing a solo broadcast
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to sss, Jimmy.
Don’t take it personal, the site is run by the editors (Little Bo Peep) and they have control over their sheep. (core group) Any opinion contrary to that of the flock will turn all of them against the offending blogger. You will notice that Little Bo Peep rarely offers an opinion, thus it is easier for them to steer the sheep.
Just ignore most of their comments and continue to offer your opinions. There are a lot of us who enjoy hearing them.
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by picktoclick on Aug 11, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
preach it brotha!
the truth is with you!
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ah, the lead offender.
Thanks, BM. Saw the flag.
Did we not go through this already, PTC?
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's here to reform us all
and failing that, he’ll get banned, pout and fall asleep ‘baiting to a lonely chorus of "I’m smart, they’re stupid."
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry.............Baaaaaaaaa
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by picktoclick on Aug 11, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I argued drunk drivers should be allowed to kill people
And they let me stick around.. it takes a fair amount of douchiness to get the boot.
by Grinder in Training on Aug 11, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
everyone has been a DB for some percentage of comments here.
hard to put up with 90% though.
by Trooper on Aug 11, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tell me about it, Trooper.
;)
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
unless it also fills the OPOS quota.
obviously.
by Trooper on Aug 11, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
unfortunately
little bo peep has earned my trust concerning baseball knowledge by offering links and explaining himself and being far more right than wrong thanks to research and reasoning
you may find this more effective than “fuck off”
i'll delete your SSS existence in a second. there is nothing that allows SSS posters, at any one moment, to keep posting, but the mere pleasure of larry.
-larry
by blackoutsox on Aug 11, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both ways have merit.
Depends on the situation and what kind of asshole you are dealing with. Now get back to the flock.
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by picktoclick on Aug 11, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry, but you're a fucking asshole
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Time out Greenbay. Tell that fucking bullshit to the tourists
by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't apologize
you’re entitled to your opinion tough guy.
by jimmyjr on Aug 11, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whereas you're just entitled.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
me too!
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Aug 11, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you guys had a sense of humor
lighten up!
by jimmyjr on Aug 11, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you thought we did and nobody found this funny
why conclude that it’s our fault?
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
loved szymborski's take
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/oracle/discussion/white_sox_claimed_rios/
ZiPS Projection - Alex Rios ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Year AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB BA OBP SLG OPS+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2009FIN 626 79 169 36 3 20 80 46 110 26 .285 .340 .462 100 2010 592 88 169 36 5 22 83 48 105 26 .285 .340 .475 112 2011 572 81 158 34 5 19 75 44 100 20 .276 .330 .453 103 2012 566 80 158 32 5 19 73 43 101 21 .279 .332 .454 104 2013 559 80 156 33 4 19 73 42 98 20 .279 .331 .454 104 2014 551 77 151 32 4 18 70 42 97 19 .274 .328 .445 101 2015 540 74 146 30 4 17 66 41 96 17 .270 .324 .435 98 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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by The Cheat on Aug 11, 2009 12:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ops+ of 104 in 2012, i'll take that...
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fangraphs likes it for us
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/white-sox-stea-rios
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Aug 11, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
writers usually have our back over there
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a must-read website, but I wish Dave Cameron wasn't such a douchebag
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by Ozzie Montana on Aug 11, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dave cameron is a douchebag?
c’mon OM. he’s wrong enough, certainly, and has some obvious biases. jimmyjr is a douchebag. Dave Cameron’s just sometimes not right.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still read his stuff for the information, but his tone is pretty annoying.
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by Ozzie Montana on Aug 11, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gotta act the part for new converts
signaling and all that. besides, there’s a difference between annoying but useful and douchebaggery.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fear not! When the season's over and the doldrums of December and January overtake us...
they will peel away and the cream will rise to the top. I figure I’ll still be hovering around the bottom posting images and mostly contributing nothing to the overall betterment of the clan.
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by Hazymania on Aug 11, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cameron is a total douchebag, I'm not going to dig through the archives of fangraphs
and USS Mariner to pull some quotes, but he is very douchey at times.
by madvillian on Aug 11, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not exactly convincing then, mv
if DC is a total douchebag, what does that make almost everyone else who covers baseball?
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cameron has a smugness about him that most smart people do
Does that make him a douche? It does in my book, mostly because there are a lot of sabermetricians, (tango, Syzmorski for a couple) that offer comparable analysis without the snark.
Cameron treats fans that don’t like sabermetrics as people not to be bothered with, as complete idiots unworthy of his time.
While I agree with him in spirit, it’s not exactly a winning message for bringing more people into the community.
by madvillian on Aug 11, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dn, i've got the smug
so maybe am therefore blind to it. i will say i think he’s been worse on fangraphs than he is on USSM, but then again he’s responsible for writing that seminal WAR series earlier this year.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
USSM is my favorite blog except for when they play or write about the Sox
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by The Cheat on Aug 11, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not Lookout Landing?
If you’ve ever been a threapist it’s fertile ground. And hysterical. HSA needs to meet some of those folks to feel welcome – they have high angst.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LL is my favorite with Cheat's caveat
Ozzie Guillen is not a well-liked man.
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by Ozzie Montana on Aug 11, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am really struggling here, in terms of finding quality people. With all the other elements of life going wrong or being uprooted for me right now, the people here are only severely advancing depression.
I’m looking for jobs in Chicago.
Hate to be a quitter and give up on this place, but also hate to be miserable and surrounded by a fabric of people that I generally cannot stand.
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
all the folks who were there on 5/22
still post regularly.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
harhar. Seattle, you idiot!
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
colin still thinking about Fister getting called up.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how did that post not get 100 comments?
fucking hilarious.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and i'm the only one who made a fisting joke!
5 comments! this place truly is going to shit.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe I speak for the hoi when I say
it’s just sad, colin. We feel for you.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
recommended
reason: wrist-deep pun.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be 94 to go.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's hard out there for a perv.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a t-shirt if I've ever seen one.
Jim, WTF? I’m still looking to get you that new server…
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you're lucky.
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wasn't diablo wearing a Fister jersey on 5/22?
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by The Cheat on Aug 11, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes he was....and I was just wondering about him. Vanished!
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by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's around. Just not as much.
Probably talking with Kittle about his new cornhole paintings. (Really, look at Ronnie’s website – he will presonalize your cornhole game with whatever sports logo you want.)
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
everyone's laughing and riding bikes and cornholing except buster.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh heh ehehheheheheheheehheeeeeee
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by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome. I'll have to check that out some time. Skanberg did some nice work with cornhole boxes too.
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they're the only non-Sox team baseball blog
in my g-reader
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's what it is...
I know what’s going on with the M’s just because I get their daily updates, which aren’t just a rehashing of the beat writers’ daily columns or the organizations talking points
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by The Cheat on Aug 11, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his math checks mine out
so that’s good.
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by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
somebody blogging over at the four-letter does have a good sense of humor
[link]
clever headline. somebody gets a cookie.
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by thatshortkid on Aug 11, 2009 1:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that's awesome...but i'm down with guillen as always, he has a right to be frustrated
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fron the comments
"This is a genius move by Riccardi. Now during the off-season he can afford to sign an all-star outfielder with around a .300 average who has some power and speed. Sweet. Hey, wait a minute… " — daphins23
¡signature!
by billyok on Aug 11, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i really don't understand why so many people think that rios could not get a similar contract in free agency where he a FA after this season.
he’s young. he’s good. he’s had a bad year, but too many teams would be interested to keep his contract to sub $10M per.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Aug 11, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HI MAYBE A WINS TODAY?
perhaps a mr. rios pinch hit go ahead dubba in the 9th?
by Trooper on Aug 11, 2009 1:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i thought he wasn't supposed to be in until wednesday?
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by thatshortkid on Aug 11, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I read he'll be with them today, but long flight and tired or whatever so wouldn't start til wednesday.
by Trooper on Aug 11, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
great. we've acquired a vagina.
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by larry on Aug 11, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
As I read these posts,
I believe we have sufficient vagina represented here.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
too many assholes, not enough pussy.
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by larry on Aug 11, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
that is too often the case.
and even when the pussy supply is replenished, the original pussy becomes asshole that you’re happy about it.
bitches.
by Trooper on Aug 11, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, no, no
We’re dicks! We’re reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. And the SSH-like posters are pussies. And JimmyJr. is an asshole. Pussies don’t like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes: assholes that just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick, with some BHB. The problem with dicks is: they fuck too much or fuck when it isn’t appropriate – and it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies can be so full of shit that they become assholes themselves… because pussies are an inch and half away from ass holes. I don’t know much about this crazy, crazy SSS, but I do know this: If you don’t let us fuck this asshole, we’re going to have our dicks and pussies all covered in shit!
by Scotty Ballgame on Aug 11, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
you could at least come up with your own material
anyone can rip off Gary Johnston. ;)
by jimmyjr on Aug 11, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know how to respond to that,
except here is your white coat , SB. Sorry the arms are a little long.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My first greenie
You like me…you realllly like me
by Scotty Ballgame on Aug 11, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sally Field, or Henry Ipkiss?
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trey Parker and Matt Stone.
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A great scene; had me in tears in the theatre....
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can i rec this?
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
larry does not accept rec's any longer.
Slows him down. CHINA does not want him to read other posts.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
rios and peavy illustrate why i did not believe the white sox' offseason moves had much of anything to do with money
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice.
See what can happen when you are constructive? Sublimate that anger for the greater good.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
girlfriend is away for the month...
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Changed teams yet?
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Find a bigger logo next time, jagbag!!!
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by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OSFIB is well endowed.
(I assume, since he is a dark man.)
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
south asians aren't normally grouped with 'asians' from the pacific region
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you prove that you can kill with kindness opos
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
me too!
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Aug 11, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn it, away to fix myself some coffee and come back to this this!?
just sayin’ no one here to fix me lunch, dinner, do my laundry
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I'm a Doctor, dammit! I don't make my own lunch!"
(Fwap, fwap, fwap. Whimpers.)
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well she's saying the same thing
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I is hopes so.
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by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how can anyone like the rios trade?
where will rowand play when he triumphantly has his second coming?
by rjhubs on Aug 11, 2009 2:02 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
do you think he'll come back?
WHAT I WANT IS FOR SOMEONE TO BE UNDERSTANDING OR SHUT UP BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO PLACE.
by pierzynskirules on Aug 11, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like Jesus.
Unless you believe like OM that Jesus is a false God.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope, i don't believe that
its just his contract is a lot of money too.
WHAT I WANT IS FOR SOMEONE TO BE UNDERSTANDING OR SHUT UP BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO PLACE.
by pierzynskirules on Aug 11, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i know
WHAT I WANT IS FOR SOMEONE TO BE UNDERSTANDING OR SHUT UP BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO PLACE.
by pierzynskirules on Aug 11, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
true
WHAT I WANT IS FOR SOMEONE TO BE UNDERSTANDING OR SHUT UP BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO PLACE.
by pierzynskirules on Aug 11, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He is?
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 11, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A false God, eh?
/Sharpen knives for next time OM is spotted in public
By the way, Jesus isn’t a god, he’s God’s son. You’re going to hell.
And take OM with you while you’re at it.
...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT
by rhythm on Aug 11, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ouch
burn baby burn
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by pierzynskirules on Aug 11, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your 2009 World Series Champion Twins
Some guy with a website says no dice. Winning the Central is a rather tall order for the Twins.
by 67WMAQ on Aug 11, 2009 2:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
links to a pretty cringe-inducing post on minny's newspaper's website
the article, especially the title, is pretty much red meat for the intended audience:
The fans like the White Sox, so Williams spends $60 million on a slightly above average second or third outfielder. As Deadspin noted, Williams was also ticketed for jaywalking on the same day — an offense that certainly qualifies as his least-embarrassing mistake Monday.
[link]
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by thatshortkid on Aug 11, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guy Wrongman sez:
‘This Rios thing is stupid. Wise should be playing every day and leading off cause he’s fast and made that catch one time…’
member of a "solid community of fans" and "a meathead."
by thecip on Aug 11, 2009 2:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
goofus and gallant.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Aug 11, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No but Almonte is all ours
also, Delmonte… canned peaches for everyone!
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by The Cheat on Aug 11, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
trejo, you mean travanti
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Time out Greenbay. Tell that fucking bullshit to the tourists
by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about Denny Terrio?
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i believe it's spelled terrero.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Aug 11, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nicely said
I wasn’t sold on this at first, but the more I think about it, it’s a good move
Glad to be out here... here in the Middle West!
by Windy City Duke on Aug 11, 2009 3:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
consider this the off season
and Williams has just landed 2 prime free agents. He couldn’t have done any better when FA acutally starts and I think he was fed up with getting screwed, as he did the past few seasons
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by Windy City Duke on Aug 11, 2009 3:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the only thing I expect to happen this off season..
besides a parade down Michigan Ave :) would be for the Sox to say goodbye to the excess baggage that’s been clogging up the middle of our lineup for the past few years (i.e. Jermaine Dye, Jim Thome)
Glad to be out here... here in the Middle West!
by Windy City Duke on Aug 11, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
damn base cloggers.
unbelievable.
it is what it is......
by BuehrleMan on Aug 11, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah.
fuck the heck?
it is what it is......
by BuehrleMan on Aug 11, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're not serious, are you?
Warning: if you are, you’re retarded.
*beverage spills*
Ed Farmer: "Is it raining in here?"
Steve Stone: "I've made an egregious mistake."
by RWShow on Aug 11, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if you aren't serious, I'm retarded.
Fair is fair.
*beverage spills*
Ed Farmer: "Is it raining in here?"
Steve Stone: "I've made an egregious mistake."
by RWShow on Aug 11, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't we need to rely on that excess baggage if there's gonna be a parade?
i’m just saying is all
¡signature!
by billyok on Aug 11, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you talking about us at SSS?
Then, yes.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
those things you call pectorals
swinging in the wind
¡signature!
by billyok on Aug 11, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you tryin' to be smart or sumpthin'?
it is what it is......
by BuehrleMan on Aug 11, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so when is the next SSS outing?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Time out Greenbay. Tell that fucking bullshit to the tourists
by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 4:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
picktoclick invited us for cheese and crackers
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 11, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got all the crackers I need in Central FL.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
clover and forbs
Sox win, cubs lose.....what a wonderful world!
by picktoclick on Aug 11, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If my wife gets this state of illinois scholarship thingie
I’ll pay face value for some decent lower deck seats—howzzat sound? I’ll buy beers too
Fuck nick swisher
by sti3 on Aug 11, 2009 4:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gotta respect a guy who is dependent upon his wife for financial decisions.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I enjoyed the mocking.
*beverage spills*
Ed Farmer: "Is it raining in here?"
Steve Stone: "I've made an egregious mistake."
by RWShow on Aug 11, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mine was playful jest.
WU may as well have castrated the nice man.
by Trooper on Aug 11, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not on here enough to discern the difference.
Fuck nick swisher
by sti3 on Aug 11, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better just to check the thin skin at the door.
hehehehe
When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.
by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'd think after all these years
I’d finally have gotten that part of this internet thing.
Fuck nick swisher
by sti3 on Aug 11, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is no difference.
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In this economy?
Plus I’d miss the free lunch.
Fuck nick swisher
by sti3 on Aug 11, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well whaddyaknow? newspaper blog guy, blog commenters prefer cuddy bear over rios.
must be racists. some dude who works for minnesota public radio has, in my opinion, made a very bad comparison. some of the comments are quite entertaining.
it is what it is......
by BuehrleMan on Aug 11, 2009 5:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
These are nice:
I’d be willing to bet that if Delmon plays full time, weather with the TWins or someone else, from 2010 – 2014, he puts up a better 5 year stat line than Rios. He’ll end up short in the HR column, but be better just about everywhere else.
And this is coming from one of the biggest anti-Delmon guys you’ll ever meet…
It really shows the differences in philosophies between the two teams, and reminds me why it’s so much sweeter to beat the Sox than any other team. Six more chances to do that this year, which could make all the difference.
(I hate these guys.)
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by winningugly on Aug 11, 2009 5:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
f'em they never got past the alds
and they’re going to miss the metrodome
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Time out Greenbay. Tell that fucking bullshit to the tourists
by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2002-2004, 2006
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Time out Greenbay. Tell that fucking bullshit to the tourists
by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 11, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
link?
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Aug 11, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was responding to BM's link.
Reply button fail.
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by winningugly on Aug 12, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks KW, the curse is broken:
1. Scott Podsednik
2. Mark Kotsay
3. Dwayne Wise
4. Brian Anderson
5. Brent Lillibridge
6. Nick Swisher
7. Ken Griffey Jr.
8. Jerry Owens
9. Alexei Ramirez
10. Darin Erstad
11. Rob Mackowiak
12. Ryan Sweeney
13. Luis Terrero
14. Andy Gonzalez
"We are challenging the soft bigotry of low expectations." – George W Bush
by Andronicus on Aug 11, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like the list of Bears quarterbacks in the last 20 years
THANK YOU NATE SILVER, TECHNOLOGY IS THE TOPS
by Hazymania on Aug 11, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
these are the CFs that try fans' souls.
THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY
by colintj on Aug 11, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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