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OT music thread: indie rock, when it used to be the electric white boy blues

I experienced another whoosh when MM posted a Mountain Goats reference that slipped by me...I've fallen behind the indie rock times...I've become old and crotchety and everybody's an asshole in my eyes. They just don't make indie music like they used to (big exception is No Age). And if there was a WCKG for indie rock, I would be the DJ playing "The Freed Pig" by Sebadoh at least 5x from 9-5, Monday through Friday.

Anyway, I recently made a mix that comprised the nuggets from the artists I used to listen to heavily from 1988 up to 1999. Neither is the time period nor the artists I chose were random. For example, I left out REM, the Replacements, the Smiths, Housemartins, Go-Betweens, most of the groundbreaking indie music from SST and Touch and Go. In proper order:

Tortoise - Gamera

Stereolab - Au grand jour

Yo La Tengo - Sugarcube

Heavenly - Tool

The Clean - I wait around

Teenage Fanclub - Everything flows

Pavement - Date with IKEA

Superchunk - It's so hard to fall in love

Dinosaur Jr - Just like heaven

Vaselines - Son of a gun

Guided by Voices - Teenage FBI (alternative version)

Belle and Sebastian - The state i'm in

Sea and Cake - Jacking the ball

Modest Mouse - Polar opposites

Pixies - Wave of mutilation (surf version)

Jesus and Mary Chain - Just like honey


Other notes: I'm holding back on the shows I'm seeing this fall because I'm saving up for a big move during the winter months, but I will see the Dirty Three and Os Mutantes (!!!) in September and October.

 

Cheers,

OSFIB


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Nice List

I’ve been revisiting a lot of indie music from the 90s as well. Here’s a couple in the same vein as the ones you listed:

Pavement – Gold Soundz
Tortoise – DJed
Modest Mouse – Truckers Atlas
Dismemberment Plan – The City
Spacemen 3 – Walkin With Jesus

by dizzydee on Aug 12, 2009 1:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nice

i was going to include ode to street hassle, perfect presciption was a classic getting high listening music in college…

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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 12, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Going with the Spacemen theme for a minute

How about a few shoegaze records?

MBV – Loveless
Ride – Nowhere
Slowdive – Souvlaki
JMC – Psychocandy
Galaxie 500 – On Fire

by dizzydee on Aug 12, 2009 2:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i has all of those too

vg

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by colintj on Aug 12, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

a few more

Sugar aka “Bob Mould’s other band” – Copper Blue
Eleventh Dream Day – Stalled Parade
neutral Milk Hotel – On Avery Island
 That era has held up pretty well I think…every time I hear Gaslight Anthem, I just think “not as good as the ’Mats”

by vanillablue on Aug 12, 2009 2:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

thanks for reminding me

to revisit sugar. it’s been a long time.

by Ryno on Aug 12, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

today it was early mid 80s styles while i was packing to move

meat puppets up on the sun
husker du flip your wig
replacements hootenanny
rem fables

copper blue, i remembered at the time it came out and it felt it was too poppy. i don’t what i was thinking, every song on there is solid

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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 12, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

grant hart has a new album out

curious to hear it, if only because he hasn’t released anything in 12 years. poor guy looks like death these days though.

by vanillablue on Aug 12, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i never heard his solo stuff

and never knew about the tensions (or the baggage hart was carrying) until i read azzerad’s book. personally i think hart helped mould grow musically. i haven’t listened to bob mould’s recent solo material either, but i would expect his music to remain moody and tense. did you go to any of the sugar shows at the metro in ‘92-’93?

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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 13, 2009 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this band could be your life?

it’s been a bit, but wasn’t Hart more of a footnote in that? or maybe I was just reading it for Mould.

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by colintj on Aug 13, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was integral to Husker Du

but has definitely become a footnote since then, maybe on purpose.

by vanillablue on Aug 13, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah i read the wiki article

which extensively quotes Azzerad. crappy reading comprehension on my part, i guess.

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by colintj on Aug 13, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as vb was saying, integral! ...need to listen to mp3s and read less wiki 'son'

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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 13, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

saw them at the Aragon in '94

Still one of the best shows I’ve ever seen. Moulds recent solo stuff is nothing special, sounds like he’s run out of ideas. He still puts it over live though.

by vanillablue on Aug 13, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if there was a wckg for indie rock

i’d probably never discover any new music. although that seems to be happening anyway as my available free time to find and check out new bands seems to dwindle every year. i need to reprioritize. anyway, here’s quick list of 90’s faves:

silkworm – couldn’t you wait
guided by voices – as we go up we go down
pavement – texas never whispers
nothing painted blue – drinking game
dinosaur jr. – i ain’t sayin’
wedding present – corduroy
jawbreaker – want
built to spill – fling

by Ryno on Aug 12, 2009 3:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i can't terrorize

i see terror in your eyes

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by colintj on Aug 12, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

silkworm, great band, sad ending though

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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 12, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

mmmm....jawbreaker(s)

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Aug 13, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i know like 4/5 of those songs

and love all of them.

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by colintj on Aug 12, 2009 3:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

also, i've recently decided

i could live entirely on music produced between 1983 and 1998.

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by colintj on Aug 12, 2009 3:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed

I go home and get in her face - Pods

by airnjp on Aug 12, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You people are all lunatics.

LUNATICS! THE most creative and innovative period in musinc was the mid-late ’60’s-late ’70’s (no, not disco). Lyrically and musically (synthesizers, electric, wacky sounds – think even Laurie Anderson) it was fanstastic. Unless you are talking about rap, I respectfully disagree.

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by winningugly on Aug 12, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it wasn't meant to be a dig at those outside that time period.

i just realized that’s where the bulk of my music comes from. plus i used to play “pick a decade you have to listen to for the rest of your life” game. it isnt an accident that Guided By Voices and Wu Tang Clan are tied at the top of my last.fm.

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by colintj on Aug 12, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd pick the late 90s, early 2000s

Nothing but Master P, Sisquo, boy bands, and Britney Spears.

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by Ozzie Montana on Aug 12, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

worst era of popular music ever

it still persists, really.

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by colintj on Aug 12, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't argue with that logic.

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Aug 13, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You were into Laurie Anderson?

I’ll give you props old man…you’re right IMO, that was a golden era in popular and rock music. That era would require numerous music threads!

But that period also had it’s excesses and rock music was considered less accessible and more elitist. Most of the bands I mentioned above were inspired by punk rock from the late 70s but were innovative and defying the punk conventions of simple 3 chord rock like the Ramones. If you liked what they called progressive rock back in the day, you might like Tortoise, they’re from Chicago. Look up the album TNT in particular, it’s great for starters.

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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 12, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked Lou Reed, Laurie Anderson, NY Dolls,

Sex Pistols, etc. Loved the punk scene. Also, though, though early Dire Straits and Cars were the rage because it was innovative.

’Course now I listen to Judas Priest at ear-splitting volume (or so the wife says).

Will check out Tortoise.

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by winningugly on Aug 13, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad you got Guided by Voices and Dinsosaur Jr. in there

I also feel that Yo La Tengo was (and still may be) considered one of the most important “Indie” bands of the time.

In case you haven’t had the pleasure, check out Adorable

Glad to be out here... here in the Middle West!

by Windy City Duke on Aug 12, 2009 4:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

pixies doolittle tour

Anyone planning on going to this in November? I think they have two shows at the Aragon. I saw them a few years ago, and they played their whole set in alphabetical order.

by dizzydee on Aug 12, 2009 5:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

they're doing the album?

that’s pretty awesome. tix are going to be like 200 a pop, right? or is it worse?

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by colintj on Aug 12, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not that pricey

so far the oakland show is $50-65 and the nyc show is $62-75, so i’d imagine the aragon show would fall into that price range. worth every penny in my book. doolittle is one of my all-time favorite albums.

by Ryno on Aug 12, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah that's worth it

doolittle is definitely in my top 10 and in my car cd changer right now.

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by colintj on Aug 12, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or first night pitchfork reviews?

the old fogies played that night…

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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 12, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how were bts?

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by colintj on Aug 12, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

good

They played a good set, although it seemed a little short due to the forced cutoff at 10 PM. The setlist had pretty much everything I wanted to hear, with the the exception of “The Plan.” One of my favorite BTS songs.

Yo La Tengo was good, but their sound mix wasn’t great, so it was a little hard to hear.

by dizzydee on Aug 12, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Jesus Lizard kicked some serious A$$!

I was near the front, close enough for David Yow to crowd surf over me.

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by defensive indifference on Aug 17, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

unintentional nut grabbing taking place?

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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 17, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

jesus lizard do kick ass

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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 17, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw Deerhunter at Logan Square.

’Twas very good. Best part was easiliy Dan Deacon (I think?) doing his electronic shit with a ten-to-fifteen piece horn-and-drum marching band.

by CWSKeith on Aug 13, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not indie, but

just got an old old old cd: Organized Konfusion’s ‘Stress: The Extinction Agenda’ as a gift. kickass.

also picked up Los Amigos Invisibles’ new CD ‘Commercial’ at their HoB Anaheim show recently that fucking rocked.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Aug 12, 2009 7:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

classic

Pharoahe Monch rules. “Official” off of Internal Affairs is a choice cut.

by dizzydee on Aug 12, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Listening to Mountain Goats "Hast Thou Considered the Tetrapod"

I sure as hell hope their other songs are better than this. In the last 5 years, I’ve heard about 50 songs exactly like this one by various bands.

On a related note, and old crotchety fucker with whom I used to work, an indie rock fan btw, was describing indie rock on the whole as a bunch of crap, just that some bands you have some kind of connection with and those are the ones you end up liking. It’s not that the difference between the ones you like and dislike are that great, it’s that you chopped up a hooker listening to one band, giving you a positive to connection to the music, whereas you have nothing to associate with some other crappy band and therefore just toss them into the “recycled” bin.

I can see his point.

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by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Aug 13, 2009 2:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i like "no children" and "old college try'

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by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Aug 14, 2009 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Listening to Silkworm "Said it too late"

reminds me of Archers of Loaf. I can tell already that I like this band.

BTW, Archers of Loaf fucking rule. Listen to “Wrong” if you care to hear their ripitude.

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by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Aug 13, 2009 4:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i still have my go loaf pennant in a box

back in 1995, there was an student environmental conference in chapel hill of which i was on the coordinating committee. anyway, long story short, i wrote them a letter (you still wrote letters back then) asking them to headline a benefit concert during the conference. they agreed to hold an outdoor concert above a concert garage..but it rained out!!!

i want waste!!

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by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 13, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obligatory Sox Tie-In Trivia

Q: What indie-rock icons recorded their debut major-label album two blocks away from US Cellular Field?

A: Modest Mouse, The Moon And Antarctica. At what used to be called Clava Studios on 33rd and Wells. No, really.

by IceColdFalstaff on Aug 14, 2009 2:04 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

The Moon and Antarctica has got to be my favorite Modest Mouse album

On a related note, has anyone else picked up their new EP No One’s First, And You’re Next?
I think the album is pretty good and has some good songs in Whale Song and Perpetual Motion Machine, but overall just a bit above average.

by soxshenanigans on Aug 16, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not yet

But I’ll be in an album buying mood this morning and will likely be picking it up

THANK YOU NATE SILVER, TECHNOLOGY IS THE TOPS

by Hazymania on Aug 20, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

err afternoon

THANK YOU NATE SILVER, TECHNOLOGY IS THE TOPS

by Hazymania on Aug 20, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Julian Casablancas is releasing a solo album this fall

and The Strokes will follow with an album in the first-half of 2010. Sweeeeeeet.

Oh, and It Might Get Loud looks fucking awesome.

by CWSKeith on Aug 17, 2009 4:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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