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This Week In White Sox Minor League Baseball

Christian Marrero in the on deck circle.

Christian Marrero in the on deck circle.



This week

  • Jake Peavy began his White Sox organization career with a very good 43 pitch outing: 3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 5 K. His next start will be August 18, likely for the Knights again. Sox Machine has video from his start. Word is that September 3 against the Cubs is the target for his first White Sox start.
  • Sox Machine has been touring the White Sox minor league affiliates. For a report on Kannapolis and Jared Mitchell, go here; for a report on Birmingham and Dayan Viciedo, go here; for a report on Charlotte and Tyler Flowers, go here.
  • Freddy Garcia looks like he's the next Starter Candidate 5 (election set for August 18) after a good outing in Charlotte: 6 IP, 8 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 9 K.
  • Daniel Hudson didn't have a good AAA debut: 4 IP, 8 H, 1 BB, 2 K, 1 HBP. His second start was much, much better and what we've come to expect from Hudson: 7 IP, 3 H, 2 BB, 6 K. Sox Machine once again provides video and analysis of this start (teaser: he thinks Hudson is not ready for the big leagues and I agree).
  • Jordan Danks: .249/.342/.367 for the Barons. Most of the wind has come out of the "Danks will be ready next year" sails. Whether it was the wrist injury or just coming back to earth, Danks is looking far more mortal. The Rios acquisition may have lessened the urgency on his progress. Expect him to return to both the Arizona Fall League this year and Birmingham next season.
  • The August 17 deadline for signing draft picks is quickly approaching. There hasn't been much information regarding whether the Sox will be signing anyone else. One could posit that KW's recent shopping may have consumed any cash the club could have put towards signings. The latest news I heard was that Tennessee's coach was "cautiously optimistic" about Bryan Morgado returning to school. Baseball America leaves open the possibility that an over-slot bonus would get him; however, they suggest Justin Jones will indeed be attending California. No new information on Dane Williams and Brian Goodwin, though both are very likely to attend UNC. Gonzales observes that the Sox would get a pick in 2010 if they don't sign Morgado.
  • Tyler Flowers: .292/.354/.444 in AAA. He was voted by the Southern League managers as having the best strike zone judgment and as the best defensive catcher(!). C.J. Retherford garnered the best defensive 2B accolade. Why the White Sox acquired Andy Cannizaro (along with the other filler already there) to play for the Knights instead of just promoting Retherford is beyond me.
  • Jared Mitchell: .288/.435/.425. He's basically been as advertised, lots of walks and lots of strikeouts.
  • You wouldn't have found Christian Marrero on many prospects lists going into the season. He had a solid but unspectacular season at Kannapolis and the lefty was old for the league. He began the year at Winston-Salem and put up some good numbers (.314/.357/.482) and earned a promotion to Birmingham. He had a slow start for the Barons but has heated up and now has a line of .303/.343/.517 in AA. While he's a RF, he was playing some 1B for the Dash and began in that position for the Barons, as well, reportedly because the organization wanted to see more positional flexibility. He's recently returned to the outfield. Obviously, he has more value if he can hold down a corner outfield spot - where his plus arm can be more useful - and his bat is starting to look like it might actually be good enough, though more walks would be helpful.
  • Dayan Viciedo: .278/.313/.388.
  • Brent Morel has continued to have a solid season for the Dash: .276/.333/.463. I'm beginning to think the White Sox may use their "under AA" slot in the Arizona Fall League on Morel.

As always, check the White Sox Minor League Update fanpost on the right sidebar for daily updates and commentary, and to participate in the weekly poll. If you're interested in White Sox minor league updates, follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry.

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always appreciated

south side larry.

Sounds like we are going to have to make room for Flowers on the ML roster next year… Could this mean the end of the Pierzynski era, or would they keep both and ease him in next year?

"you should go back to your cowardly practice of offering no opinion of your own."
-picktoclick

by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 15, 2009 9:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i find it difficult to believe the organization would move AJ.

maybe if they’re out of contention at the deadline but, otherwise, i think he’s around the whole year. and since AJ is a bit whiny about his playing time, i’m not sure the sox would bring flowers up before august or so, either. flowers still needs games behind the plate and he won’t get many of those in chicago. usual caveats for injury or shit performance, of course, but i think the sox sign a stop-gap back-up and leave flowers in the minors for most of 2010.

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by larry on Aug 15, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boy what a difference a year makes in regards to our future.

We all thought (myself included) that we were dead to rights talent wise in the minors last year. Since then we have brought up an impact player who is contributing immediately, and have guys not far behind him whom I expect to make a similar impact for the next couple of years. Say we call up Hudson in 2010, Flowers full time in 2011, Danks, Mitchell, and Viciedo in 2012-2013… Hell if only 2 of those players pan out, we are still looking pretty good.

"you should go back to your cowardly practice of offering no opinion of your own."
-picktoclick

by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 15, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot to include the continued ML developement

of J. Danks, Floyd, Beckham, Ramirez and Getz.

"you should go back to your cowardly practice of offering no opinion of your own."
-picktoclick

by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 15, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i've stopped harping on it

due to the dead horse factor, but danks just can’t strikeout as much as he does if he wants to be a legitimate starter in the majors. he doesn’t have the skillset to K 27% of the time. that player is called brian anderson.

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by larry on Aug 15, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess you can't really teach a player to strike out less with out

taking away his aggressivness, you may be on to something here.

"you should go back to your cowardly practice of offering no opinion of your own."
-picktoclick

by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 15, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking Josh Fields.

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by winningugly on Aug 15, 2009 12:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I think

we will have a platoon. If thome is gone, and we still use JD in the outfield, Flowers might go to first and Pauli to DH

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Please takeyour latte circle jerk to another thread. -WU
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by The_Fan on Aug 15, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

About time slacker. Thanks again.

“teaser: he thinks Hudson is not ready for the big leagues and I agree).”

What would you like to see in terms of improvement to make you think he would be ready?

I know you are a bit conservative anyway but is there a factor you want improved? I am assuming 1 is more ground balls.

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Aug 15, 2009 10:46 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that flyball rate is certainly one. perhaps i’m reading too much into two starts but a guy coming off of one start in which he got knocked around and another in which he should have gotten knocked around doesn’t inspire confidence. i’d also note that those starts and innings are getting up there. i doubt hudson has pitched this much for this many months in a row before so fatigue may be becoming a factor. taking the proverbial profits on a guy instead of pushing for more may be a better course of action.

at any rate, since we’re talking about KC next week, i like the match-up of torres against a team lacking plate disclipline. he should thrive against such a team.

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by larry on Aug 15, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he did get to 160 IP last year.

but i don’t know what kind of break he got between end of school and rookie league. 130 innings isn’t a huge number, but Jim saw his velocity slacking. if he had a bigger fastball, i’d be much more inclined to let him give the majors a shot. but his stuff probably means an adjustment period of some kind, certainly beyond a couple starts.

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by colintj on Aug 15, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he would have had a few weeks off because his team obviously didn't win the college world series.

also, like most pitchers, he got the kid gloves treatment with short outings to start rookie league. i also tend to buy into the concept that higher levels mean higher stress.i’m not going to fight the point with anyone regarding fatigue, just throwing it out there. he doesn’t impress me so much that when i compare him to the other option to potentially replace contreras (torres) that the answer is so obvious.

plus, calling up a rookie with those flyball rates to pitch a day game in august?

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by larry on Aug 15, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

was he abused like KeNwO in little league?

"you should go back to your cowardly practice of offering no opinion of your own."
-picktoclick

by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 15, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

come to your own conclusions as to what "abused" means to you when referencing KeNwO

"you should go back to your cowardly practice of offering no opinion of your own."
-picktoclick

by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 15, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't hate the playa

hate the game

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 15, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

uggh

I don’t think I want to see Torres again this year. I understand where you guys are coming from. Personally I’d rather throw Contreras out there. I really don’t think he’s that far away. I’d still be shocked if Hudson continues to do well if he doesn’t make 1 or 2 starts.

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Aug 15, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't think contreras is being removed from the rotation so it's all academic anyway.

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by larry on Aug 15, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i still don't have a problem with Contreras

his numbers are still solid and his blowup innings have featured some really bad luck.

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by colintj on Aug 15, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure you want to see Count out there

With Penny going tonight, ppb. Howevern he’s toast. May as well let the cannon fodder play.

We’re a pack of a-holes. And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site... continues.

by winningugly on Aug 15, 2009 1:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

sweaty freddy time

thanks lare

that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma

by furby2056 on Aug 15, 2009 11:06 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

soooo peavy is set to debut on sep 3??

what a great birthday it would be if he did, and got a win!?

also, isnt it weird that his first start for an AL team is going to be against an NL team in an NL ball park?

we are gonna skullfuck this guy - thecip

by BoeJouma on Aug 15, 2009 11:32 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it would be...

Aug. 28, in Yankee Stadium.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Aug 15, 2009 11:36 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I'd just as soon avoid using him in that Cubs game, what with the batting and baserunning and whatnot.

His ankle injury was from baserunning, was it not?

Send him out there in New York. Let someone else deal with Wrigley.

*beverage spills*
Ed Farmer: "Is it raining in here?"
Steve Stone: "I've made an egregious mistake."

by RWShow on Aug 15, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're still a dick, larry...

But great job as always with these updates. Between you and Jim, I get more info than I thought possible.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Aug 15, 2009 11:35 AM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

lol

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Aug 15, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. I appreciate both Jim and Larry for their work on this stuff.

*beverage spills*
Ed Farmer: "Is it raining in here?"
Steve Stone: "I've made an egregious mistake."

by RWShow on Aug 15, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Peavy's debut at Wrigley? Well, you could never argue Kenny/Ozzie lack a flair for the dramatic

About Viciedo. He’s consistently improved every month in the minors, and is showcasing the power everyone was hyped about. With the nice contract he got from the Sox, any chance he gets called up to be our DH next season?

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 15, 2009 11:41 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no.

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by colintj on Aug 15, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DH is reserved for scottie

"you should go back to your cowardly practice of offering no opinion of your own."
-picktoclick

by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 15, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they have him for six years at the major league level, period.

the contract doesn’t have much to do with it.

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by larry on Aug 15, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just meant because it was 4 years

There was a bit of confusion earlier on arbitration rules. I was only trying to imply the 6 years.

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Aug 15, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

at this point, it's at least for three more years after the end of the contract.

and more likely four.

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by larry on Aug 15, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

even better

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Aug 15, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I take it everyone is sleeping off their hangovers?

This place is more quiet than MM’s blackberry on a Thursday morning.

"you should go back to your cowardly practice of offering no opinion of your own."
-picktoclick

by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 15, 2009 12:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

zing my bestest friend

zing. Meaning you are not making moves… ahh nevermind. You need a vacation.

"you should go back to your cowardly practice of offering no opinion of your own."
-picktoclick

by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 15, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nix 2b

Beckham 3b

Dye rf

Thome dh

Konerko 1b

Rios cf

Pierzynski c

Quentin lf

Ramirez ss

Floyd p

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by larry on Aug 15, 2009 12:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i like that 2-9

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart

by Jbasic89 on Aug 15, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

go back to russia if you don't like capitalism, engels.

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by larry on Aug 15, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I blame Al Davis.

Like anyone cares about the Raiders.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Aug 15, 2009 12:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

No TV, load up Gameday and use your imagination.

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 15, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

correction

No TV, load up, fire up gameday and use your imagination

by jeeves on Aug 15, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's available for int'l customers? sweet.

helloooooooo proxy servers

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Aug 15, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

finally.

the lineup i’ve been waiting to see.

except i can’t.

fuck fox’s mom.

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by colintj on Aug 15, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah, put the worst hitter in the lineup first. i like it. very sneaky.

it’s no pods as DH, but it’s pretty good. i’ll be sure to tune in. oh wait, what’s that? nevermind.

actually, will this be the least viewed game of the year? it’s not on TV. and oakland is last in attendance. so what do you think, maybe 15,000 people actually watch this game? and what, 75% or so are actually paying attention? let’s just simulate it and skip the formalities.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Aug 15, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

6 former All Stars by my count.

Sounds more impressive than it is, probably.

Pods would make it 7… proving my point.

*beverage spills*
Ed Farmer: "Is it raining in here?"
Steve Stone: "I've made an egregious mistake."

by RWShow on Aug 15, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

6 - 0 at Everton

this will raise a few eyebrows

by hoodlight on Aug 15, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wigan won 2-0

so thats nice

Praise Him!!

by Hawk is God on Aug 15, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wtf.

why?

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by colintj on Aug 15, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's still got some work-permit issues, IIRC

Also don’t know if you saw but ESPN cut a deal last night and will have games in the US this year. Chelsea/Hull was actually on ESPN2 this morning.

http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2009/08/breaking-espn2-to-show-chelseahull-city.html

by CWSKeith on Aug 15, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's excellent.

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by colintj on Aug 15, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you should make a fanshot about that.

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by larry on Aug 15, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In San Diego for 5 days,

So I’ll get to hear how Peavy’s haul is perceived by the locals. Richard seems to be fitting in nicely.

We’re a pack of a-holes. And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site... continues.

by winningugly on Aug 15, 2009 1:08 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Regarding last night's game...

was anyone else surprised that they didn’t go to replay for Rios’ long foul? Or was Hawk making it seem closer than it really was?

by CWSKeith on Aug 15, 2009 1:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

we all were

but at the time, it didnt seem like a huge deal cuz it was already 6-0 in the 2nd.

we are gonna skullfuck this guy - thecip

by BoeJouma on Aug 15, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Today's lineup is mostly fine....

though I would have liked PK to sit and Kotsay to start.

by stanchar on Aug 15, 2009 2:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and what surrender the series?

"you should go back to your cowardly practice of offering no opinion of your own."
-picktoclick

by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 15, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

NO

PK is better than Kotsay, and did you see Paulis splits against lefties.Stupid idea

Carlos Guillen, the Latino Nick Punto - BouJouma
Please takeyour latte circle jerk to another thread. -WU
babies are young and under team control for at least 12 years -Billyok
i heard kenny williams' mother bought a lottery ticket and lost so kenny williams traded his mother - Billyok

by The_Fan on Aug 15, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Garcia has been rehabbing all year

will he be ready for September?

Carlos Guillen, the Latino Nick Punto - BouJouma
Please takeyour latte circle jerk to another thread. -WU
babies are young and under team control for at least 12 years -Billyok
i heard kenny williams' mother bought a lottery ticket and lost so kenny williams traded his mother - Billyok

by The_Fan on Aug 15, 2009 4:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

was Flowers catching Hudson in that video?

if so, he had a high throw to 2b on a steal

seemed to be alright other than that

i'll delete your SSS existence in a second. there is nothing that allows SSS posters, at any one moment, to keep posting, but the mere pleasure of larry.
-larry

by blackoutsox on Aug 15, 2009 5:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, it was flowers

look for the male pattern baldness. he looks my old roommate from college, except he’s a fantastic catcher instead of a math major.

otherwise, totally the same.

by coffeepac on Aug 15, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Freddy Guzman had a huge jump on Hudson, first pitch after reaching.

Flowers had no chance. He made a better throw later in the game on a similarly big jump.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Aug 15, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thank you for sharing those videos with us

between Sox Machine and SSS there’s solid White Sox material everyday

i'll delete your SSS existence in a second. there is nothing that allows SSS posters, at any one moment, to keep posting, but the mere pleasure of larry.
-larry

by blackoutsox on Aug 15, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As always, great stuff.

Also, if Peavy pitches Tuesday, I’m going. I have the night off. Where can I find out?

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Aug 15, 2009 11:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the knights will certainly announce it a couple days in advance, just like they did last time.

it’s a money spinner for them.

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by larry on Aug 16, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great work, larry.

We’re a pack of a-holes. And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site... continues.

by winningugly on Aug 16, 2009 7:05 AM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

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