They Can't All Be Perfect
by The Cheat on Aug 2, 2009 7:48 PM CDT
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PrintI hate to admit it, but I pulled a WU during this game; dozed off just after the Sox took the lead, and was out for good by the time Buehrle gave it back up.
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I'm disappointed.
After seeing today’s game, I don’t think I can even watch this team tomorrow.
¡signature!
hopefully SSS gives us some good reading/discussion material during the offday.
Took 3 years to find out about disco demolition night.
Who cares, look at how many 2B's Beckham has!
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
good news is Sox dont face Weaver
Angels have won some ridiculous number like 16 of their last 19 on the road. That’s likely to stop on the last series of their roady as they have to be giddy doing this without Hunter of Vlad.
2 of 3 would be ideal. I think the goal needs to be 8-10 over by the end of the year and that will win the Central.
by Duck99 on Aug 2, 2009 8:30 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
sucked that we wasted so many opportunities
and that buehrle gave the lead right back up… but at least the twins tigers and cubs lost…so all is not terrible.
i think we can get 2/3 from the angels. we have played them pretty well lately. as tone loc said….lets do it.
Kenwo4life=ratings
relax jag.
i dont care that the sox aren’t in the cubs division. i don’t like hearing the annoying cub fans telling me how great they are. it irritates me. and sox fans that don’t act like it irritates them irritate me as well.
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it means the douche at work monday
Can’t tell you how the Cubs are a first place team. Their closer Gregg is not a prime time player.
by Duck99 on Aug 2, 2009 8:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
They haven't been able to tell you that for pretty much the entire season
So…….yeah.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 2, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
but they sure got noisy on that one day last week.
The president was drinking Bud Light, Biden was drinking Buckler (a nonalcoholic beer), Gates was drinking Samuel Adams Light and Crowley was drinking Blue Moon.
I will be at the game on TUESDAY
also, we have peavey.
member of a "solid community of fans" and "a meathead."
I'm looking at the credit for the MB picture
And there must be a good joke there
Saw Funny People last night. Good – not great. Too long but worth seeing.
by Duck99 on Aug 2, 2009 8:56 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
i'm going to cleveland for a few days and taking in the indians/twins game tuesday
will be yelling fuck punto whenever i see him…anyone know of any good places for food downtown or other things to do?
that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma
Some ideas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmLA5TqbIY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
Everyone wants to flee to the Cleve!
http://www.nbc.com/30_Rock/video/clips/cleveland/117364/
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 2, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
The second one made my day.
Regrettably, I watched that one first.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Aug 2, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
i laugh every time.
my favorite part will always be “our main export is crippling depression”
knocked his fucking dick in the dirt! - BuehrleMan
http://www.hulu.com/watch/856/30-rock-cleveland-get-away#s-p7-n1-sr-i1
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 2, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
rock n' roll hof & museum is worth it
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Aug 2, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
cleveland treatment clinic is also worth it.
and it’s right by the ballpark. i recommend their “hooked on fishing, not on drugs” program.
http://www.clevelandtreatmentcenter.org/fishing.htm
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
well when i was there when the sox were in cleveland... they stayed at the ritz carlton
which isn’t too far from the park. There is a Mortons steakhouse connected to the hotel which is always lovely if you are into that kind of stuff. maybe you can have a porterhouse right next to punto. other than that cleveland pretty much sucked.
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The Cleve
The Flats is an entertainment area near the ballpark. Everyone and their brother will tell you that the Flats is home to Shooters, where they shot the opening to the Drew Carey Show (the Cleveland Rocks version, not the Moon Over Parma version).
See the monument marking the spot where the river caught fire in 1969.
If you have a car – or some money to spend on cabs, go to Coventry St. in Cleveland Heights. Nice stretch of bars.
Be sure to visit a drive through liquor store. You literally drive through the store, windows down, pulling booze off the shelves.
Their Dortmunder Gold is one of my favorite beers
"It was like everything was slow motion," Wise said. "I stuck my hand out so slowly and was able to make the catch."
Winking Lizard Tavern
Right across from the park for pregame sandwich and beer. Hard to get a table before most games though.
Sox win, cubs lose.....what a wonderful world!
My favorite restaurant in the U.S. happens to be in Cleveland:
http://www.johnnyscleveland.com/Fulton/JB_Main.htm
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."
— Leo Durocher
FYI Peavy does not have the second "e"
by Duck99 on Aug 2, 2009 10:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Pyvea.
We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT
Maybe he'll develop a second E by September
Along with a third ball
¡signature!
by billyok on Aug 2, 2009 10:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Is anyon els pissed off at Peavey for not accepting the deal in the first place?
Becaus I am.
Only a Milwauke CC display redems him in thes eys.
The president was drinking Bud Light, Biden was drinking Buckler (a nonalcoholic beer), Gates was drinking Samuel Adams Light and Crowley was drinking Blue Moon.
placee?
I mean, if the injury weren’t from running the bases when he made such a big deal about batting, I might care. That’s just funny, though.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Aug 2, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
now its for the next few years
It could have been for this year, too.
It still may be, no thanks to that disillusioned redneck.
The president was drinking Bud Light, Biden was drinking Buckler (a nonalcoholic beer), Gates was drinking Samuel Adams Light and Crowley was drinking Blue Moon.
no he'll be the best pitcher
In these parts for the last 30 years. And he can shoot coons better than MB
by Duck99 on Aug 2, 2009 11:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Buerhle's New York dream
Career vs. NYY: 1-6, 6.84 era.
by EddyStanky'sGhost on Aug 3, 2009 12:29 AM CDT reply actions
who cares?
knocked his fucking dick in the dirt! - BuehrleMan
by BoeJouma on Aug 3, 2009 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Dude that was so July 23rd
Stop living in the past.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 3, 2009 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Never! I downloaded the game and now have it on my iPod. I busted it out at my Twisp River Pub breakfast yesterday morning and made my buddy watch the 9th with me.
hahahahahaha! I don’t care if you are from Seattle and don’t care! bwahahahahahahahaha!
by homesickalien on Aug 3, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
rec this!
i'll delete your SSS existence in a second. there is nothing that allows SSS posters, at any one moment, to keep posting, but the mere pleasure of larry.
-larry
Maybe the Melky and friends didn't know
The game was played west of the Hudson, after all.
Anyway, he didn’t do much to let em in on the secret.
by EddyStanky'sGhost on Aug 3, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I was chastised when i mentioned him...but he has been good lately. CG today.
That’s seven straight quality starts for Garland, who had a 3.00 ERA in six July outings. Wins have been hard to come by for Garland and the Diamondbacks this season, although the team has been playing better lately with five wins in their last eight games
Kenwo4life=ratings
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
Must've had a bitter weekend, DB.
“Scout my balls”, and now this? Hung over, are we today?
We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT
Went to sleep at two.
Woke up at 6. Not one person showed up for our run, which has never happened before. Only companions were the rolling tide and the subtle breeze, though this is better than nothing. If I go to sleep, I’ll likely be out until… three.
by Daniel Berlyn on Aug 3, 2009 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Kenny is a great position.......
He’s got a strong starting staff in place for the next three years and a developing young core…..
I think he will have about 20-30 mil to fill the spots (and some will be resigned) of Pods, Thome and Dye.
But he’s also gotta be looking at 2011. If (and a big if) all goes right he will be able to plug in Flowers and Viciedo for AJ/PK. This shaves off potentially another 18 million. And let’s not forget about Jordan Danks.
I think there’s a chance (if economy continues to improve, etc………) that the 20-30 mil available above could become closer to 35 mil or 40 mil……then again John Danks and Q need to be locked up.
Interesting stuff nonetheless…..
This is a world championship caliber starting pitching staff he's locked in for 3yrs
That’s what won it for us in ‘05. We’ll have a legitimate shot every year as long as these 4 stay healthy, just get to the playoffs and roll the bones.
"It was like everything was slow motion," Wise said. "I stuck my hand out so slowly and was able to make the catch."
Ladies and gentlemen, behold possibly the worst deadline deal in recent memory.
From today’s THT
Just for the sake of argument, here’s how Peavy looks if he essentially returns to ‘06-’07 form and stays there:
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 3, 2009 9:42 AM CDT reply actions
i like that everyone who traded for a player
apparently made a huge mistake
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
Sign #1 that your 'system'
might have a flaw in it.
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
Are these the figures I would use if I were sitting in a front office? Nope.
so then why are you using those figures, adam?
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
I like the conclusion
that “(KW) is like the guy that came to the table with $500K and leaves with $50K”. And that he is being universally praised. Usually when someone says “he has big balls” that means someone is taking a riske they themselves would like to but could/would not. High risk, high reward. DB.
And, PF, he seems to think the Phillies did OK for the next 18 months. KW and Theo are idiots. I actually like this. It’s motivating. Keeps the chip right where it belongs – on the shoulders of Sox fans, White and Red.
We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT
And the next sentence . . . which makes even less sense. Would they use these numbers? No. But to evaluate why they made the trade, sure this works.
But for the purposes of understanding a club’s rationale and the implications of a trade, this will do fine
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
I'll take the wins above replacement
and take my chances on the increased attendance gained when we contend or win a world series or two.
Sox win, cubs lose.....what a wonderful world!
i hope everyone knows that the subject heading is not my own
Always bet on black!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 3, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Wouldn't want to factor in that we have money & depth and the Padre's don't.
If you can afford to overpay then it doesn’t really matter. What it comes down to is this: In the playoffs, do you want Jake Peavy in your rotation or one of those 4? It doesn’t matter if those 4 are good, if the 4 we have are better.
by Grinder in Training on Aug 3, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
And who is this genius?
Adam Guttridge is a recent graduate seeking to continue his baseball career. Employment offers can be sent to adam_guttridge@yahoo.com.
I’m sure his in-box will be getting flooded with offers………
Sox win, cubs lose.....what a wonderful world!
Who is the ad wizard who came up with this idea???
We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT
From the article
Odds are Poreda is not going to be leading a rotation into a World Series in the next couple years.
uhhhhh… odds are Poreda will not be leading a rotation
It amuses me that Russell is just assigned
$3M of value as though the Sox are ‘losing’ that . . . there are plenty of Russells and/or Massets that are in the system now and can be had for next to nothing. Basically, we could have just traded Russell for Peavy and that would have been a bad deal . . . hell, they could have just given us Peavy for nothing and it would have been a bad deal! I don’t know where they get these people and why they publish this bullshit, but wow.
And I know it is early on a Monday . . . so maybe I am slow here, but why is Peavy’s value being discounted and the salary not?
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
well,
if you read some of the analysis of the trade, apparently carter has an upper 90s fastball and russell is awesome.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/peavy-to-the-white-sox-for-real-this-time
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
dickey simpkins and stealfirstbase are spot on.
Eff all the other posters.
We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT
yea I tried to shoot that post down over their at Fangraphs
According to them Poreda is almost a guaranteed number 2 starter, Richard is already a number 4, Russell is a solid 7th inning guy, and Carter will be at worst an ace setup man.
Ok.
good to know Poreda has a 'power' slider as well
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
the thing this doesnt take in context is how rare Peavy is compared to those other pitchers
one can pick up russel for high A players from any team and we’re one draft away from getting someone like poreda/carter again
getting peavy with our ownership and avoiding a bidding war was a once in a lifetime opportunity
sure these pitcheres are worth “this much” and peavy is worth “this much” but there is only a few peavy’s and many types of these other pitchers
sorry if I didn’t make any sense
i'll delete your SSS existence in a second. there is nothing that allows SSS posters, at any one moment, to keep posting, but the mere pleasure of larry.
-larry
I think what your saying is that talent is evently distributed.
There are plenty of Poredas, Richards, Russells, Carters, but a 5 WAR pitcher is rare.
There is certainly value in concentrating wins in one player rather than spread out over 3-4.
If Carter and Rusell never perform above replacment level, how do they have value?
I’m too lazy to look up the methodology
By providing minor league depth?
Just guessing. I don’t get it either. All the guys in the top half should have asterisks by their “value”.
isn't replacement level just the def of a completely fungible player?
That would mean they have no value as a minor leaguer. shrug
It’s an interesting way to look at the trade in projected WAR, but I trust the entire braintrust of the White Sox financial team over this analysis. They have access to more perfect information than we do.
What is JR told KW that if he makes the playoffs on 2010 then he’ll pay for 2011-2012 payroll bumps?
well, if they don't, they have no value (or, potentially, negative value if they perform worse and one includes salary).
what he’s essentially doing is taking the range of possible outcomes for guys like russell or carter and figuring out what the value of all those outcomes mashed together is at this moment in time. obviously, there are a lot of factors in there so minds may differ on that. but the values ascribed to them at this point probably isn’t too far off. what i’m confused about is why there is no projected salary ascribed to these guys.
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
I didn't understand that either
but from the link in his article, it seems he might be using the numbers as monetary savings to the team with salary included. Not sure though, wasnt able to read that thoroughly.
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
then why have salary listed for major league players?
charts should be consistent
White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry
Agree, I would think
you would present average value, production, for that type of prospect over the timeframe . . . AND the salary that goes along with it. I don’t understand the presentation either.
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
you mean the present
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
Future:
We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT
Jordan?
i'll delete your SSS existence in a second. there is nothing that allows SSS posters, at any one moment, to keep posting, but the mere pleasure of larry.
-larry
member of a "solid community of fans" and "a meathead."
by thecip on Aug 3, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
also
member of a "solid community of fans" and "a meathead."
by thecip on Aug 3, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like this better,
though to be totally accurate Jesus would be beating Punto with the bat. Even Christ has his limits of tolerance.
We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT
by winningugly on Aug 3, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe he means the White Sox are going to win the College World Series
Seems like bullying to me but I say let’s do it
¡signature!
Maybe the pirates should play in the CWS
by G-E-T-Z GetzGetzGetz on Aug 3, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
The Pirates are builing something like Tampa did a couple of years ago, IMO.
Some nice, young talent. have you seen that McCutcheon kid fly around the bases? Also the kid who just set the franchise record for HR’s in July? And their pitching is looking interesting. A team on the rise (at least faster than San Diego, Washington, or any of the other perennial losers in the NL).
We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT
Would you be saying that if you were a actual pirates fan???
I was 2 years old when they last won their division. and its no American League East
by G-E-T-Z GetzGetzGetz on Aug 3, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
If I had happened upon them now as a fan, sure.
Tampa sure took its time embracing the Rays, with good reason. Fortunately I have no emotional investment in either team and can judge perhaps a bit more dispassionately.
We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT
'the kid who just set the franchise record for HR’s in July' is a south-sider
he went to Andrew h.s. in Tinley Park.
The president was drinking Bud Light, Biden was drinking Buckler (a nonalcoholic beer), Gates was drinking Samuel Adams Light and Crowley was drinking Blue Moon.
hmmm
i graduated in ‘97 and had a really outstanding game my senior year vs. andrew. he would have been a sophomore….. he is a major leaguer now so i say it is safe to assume he was probably on the varsity…… i probably K’d the piece of shit 3 times.
Kenwo4life=ratings
in the wink of a young girl's eye, huh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOpIfbneeHg
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I’ll pay attention when you post at 4:15 AM again after counting your pubic hairs whilst on crack. Then I’ll believe you.
Oh, and Cheat, if you are going to pull a WU, occasionally get laid, will you?
You POS.
We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT
you will also be happy to know
that i struck out super bowl hero and Cubs draftee Antwaan Randle El
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Who designs clothes for a living and comes up with that uniform
Sox1, investigate this and whip up a fanpost
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