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Perfect Games Have Consequences

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Or so goes the argument. Whether or not one believes that the physical and mental effort required to throw a no-hitter/perfect game causes poor performance immediately thereafter, Mark Buehrle has performed poorly in his six starts since his July 23 perfect game: 37.2 IP, 54 H, 7 BB, 12 K, and 26 RA. As is apparent from that line, control hasn't been a problem as his walk rate remains low. What else is apparent from that line, though, is that command has been a problem. His K rate is low and his hit rate is insanely high. He's been throwing strikes but they really haven't been good ones.

With the White Sox embarking on a treacherous 11 game road trip against the Red Sox, Yankees, Twins and Cubs they also need to ride their best pitchers. Unfortunately, it's hard to ride them when they aren't performing like the best. And with the offense scoring 1 to 4 runs, it's also hard to overcome less than stellar pitching performances.

With the loss, the club is three games back (pending the completion of the Tigers-A's game). The teams they'll be facing are good so the White Sox could very well find themselves out of the race by the end of the trip. The offense is going to need to produce. Jose and Freddy are going to need to turn back the clock to 2005. And Buehrle is going to need to turn the clock back to July.

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well that fucking sucked.

Castro ran into the dugout and told pitcher Jose Contreras, "He hasn't missed a spot all day. I think hes going to do it." Contreras replied, "Shut the fuck up."

by e-gus on Aug 23, 2009 4:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ugh i hate this division

any other division in baseball and we’re so far out of it I could stop watching this mediocrity.

fucking dome

by vince_ on Aug 23, 2009 4:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Id still watch

but my expectations wouldnt exist so it’d be more enjoyable.

Castro ran into the dugout and told pitcher Jose Contreras, "He hasn't missed a spot all day. I think hes going to do it." Contreras replied, "Shut the fuck up."

by e-gus on Aug 23, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2-2 since you declared them toast.

That is as perfect as MB’s masterpiece.

Oh, and to shit on the perfecto even further, Philly turns an unassisted triple play today. So much for rare eve ts happening rarely.

We’re a pack of a-holes. And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site... continues.

by winningugly on Aug 23, 2009 5:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

It is mildly intriguing to see them stagger down the stretch

Like a drunk guy who just got tasered and is trying to hail a cab.

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 23, 2009 4:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

how can you like watching this and be pissed at the bulls?

Castro ran into the dugout and told pitcher Jose Contreras, "He hasn't missed a spot all day. I think hes going to do it." Contreras replied, "Shut the fuck up."

by e-gus on Aug 23, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who says I hate the actual team? I dislike what the front office is doing.

This Sox team is mediocre, but they did add 2 high-caliber players this season.

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 23, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Considering it's what people have been clamoring for..probably not

Unless it was some horrendous trade for Zach Randolph or Chris Kaman.

The Bulls are in a rare position of financial strength considering the turmoil more than half the teams are going through right now. Reinsdorf has a potential franchise PG locked down for at least 4 more seasons on the cheap, it’d be ridiculous to not try and pair him up with an elite talent.

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 23, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can still offer more money and years to your own FAs than other teams

And the salary cap, along with the luxury tax decreased this year due to the economy, and David Stern isn’t guaranteeing that it will go back up next summer.

If a team is going to sign a big FA next summer, it has to be good enough for a top-tier player to actually want to join.

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 23, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the nba contract/trade/free agency systems are fucked.

Think of it like bongwater but to a not even close extent.

by Toonderstrook on Aug 23, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

post of the day.

and i don’t think it’s close.

by larry on Aug 23, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

should we rec it?

I feel like we should rec it.

by Daniel Berlyn on Aug 23, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That explains your recent AIG success.

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by winningugly on Aug 23, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

English As Second Language funds are cut as often as music and art.

This is the result.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Aug 23, 2009 5:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

yowza.

(billyok or Trooper quote)

by homesickalien on Aug 23, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My prediction?

At the end of this road trip, the White Sox will be between 1-3 games over .500, and between 2-4 games out of first. That’s how they do.

by 67WMAQ on Aug 23, 2009 5:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can understand everything that is going on with the club to a point

but I still cannot figure out what the deal is with Buehrle.

At the game this afternoon and basically fell asleep after the third…woke up briefly in the ninth. Slumbered myself together and dragged my ass to the red line and went home. Not too much to get excited about today.

Hopefully your prediction is correct. I just want us in position to win the division in the last 6 games against Detroit.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Aug 23, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's an optimistic prediction....

The realistic side of me says the White Sox are going to visit the death panel.

by 67WMAQ on Aug 23, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like this a lot.

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by winningugly on Aug 23, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Aug 23, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

people are so fucking stupid.

Castro ran into the dugout and told pitcher Jose Contreras, "He hasn't missed a spot all day. I think hes going to do it." Contreras replied, "Shut the fuck up."

by e-gus on Aug 23, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah - a perfect day for me...

was at the game yesterday, only heard about 5 minutes of the game today. In fact was at the Mon, Wed, and Sat games, that’s a good week of baseball.

Sadly the Sox have no consistency. At least the players will be rested for the October games against Det.

One catch (and 1 hit) does not make you a major league player... or does it?

by Brush Back on Aug 23, 2009 5:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OAK 2nd and 3rd no out bottom 8

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Aug 23, 2009 5:36 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

3run HR, OAK up 8-4 with 3 outs to go.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Aug 23, 2009 5:40 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

thank you, a's.

tigers have a brutal week ahead too @ the angels and a four game set with the rays.

Think of it like bongwater but to a not even close extent.

by Toonderstrook on Aug 23, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thank jeebus

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Aug 23, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Twins

are going to sneak in.

But what about F-I-E-L-D-E-R-S?

by ballyb on Aug 23, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sneak in? I thought they won prior to the season start?

One catch (and 1 hit) does not make you a major league player... or does it?

by Brush Back on Aug 24, 2009 7:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sigh

I’m very unhappy

by hoodlight on Aug 23, 2009 5:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Whatever happens on this road trip, it will kind of just be a nice relief to have it behind us.

If we tank and end up 6, 7 games out, this maddening season will have finally resolved itself just in time for football.

If we are still close, there won’t be that looming cloud of The Dreaded Road Trip At The End Of August to continue to think about. Additionally, Peavy will be ready, and Buehrle will improve (if his month-by-month career splits are any indicator).

In either case, there will be a certain feeling of relief. I’ll be quite glad when the trip ends.

"I would literally vote for a horse if one were put on the ballot against Stroger."
"I would literally have sex with a horse before voting for Stroger."

by RWShow on Aug 23, 2009 5:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just saw Justin-What's His-Name's new record after his Sox-killing today.

3-11. Buehrle 11-7. At home. Against the Orioles.

Says it all, I believe.

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by winningugly on Aug 23, 2009 5:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I blame it on Pods

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Aug 23, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just like crack - when you get a little whiff, you want it.

right? or is that just me?

Did you say a healthy Q! in 2010?? Will he be playing in a bubble?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Aug 23, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, in a bubble built for him and Getz.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Aug 23, 2009 6:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Q will play 150 games in 2010

50 of them might be in rehab starts…

Seriously, he’s learning. Hasn’t hit himself in the hand or head after a strikeout. He’s backed a good inch off the plate, etc

Thanks for raining on my little parade.

by Duck99 on Aug 23, 2009 7:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

blech - a Type 8 stabbing pain, blood in the stool loss

Let’s see, at home, facing the team with the second worst record in the league which hasn’t won a series since the allstar break. Floyd, Danks and Buehrle. And lose two out of three.

“Mao!”

No animals were harmed during the making of this comment.

by ChicagoPete on Aug 23, 2009 6:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm somewhere between

“It’s all about expectations” (and that was a VG post, will rec after I post this) and the “stabbing … blood in the stool loss”.

I am optimistic about the roster continuing to progress and jell next year though, I really do like what KW is doing with the personnel right now. And because the division is so bloody awful (and here come the fucking Twins BTW, my pick to win the division all along) there very well may be meaningful games in Sept.

Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game last year.

by NorthSidePaulie on Aug 23, 2009 7:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I expect nothing less.

"I would literally vote for a horse if one were put on the ballot against Stroger."
"I would literally have sex with a horse before voting for Stroger."

by RWShow on Aug 23, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am happy to report that my plans to go to today's game were canceled because I instead saw Cavalia,

which was exquisite.
No bitching here. I’ve had an amazing couple of days in my hometown.

(billyok or Trooper quote)

by homesickalien on Aug 23, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wanted to see that, but it's so expensive

$50 for “partially obstructed view” seats? Ugh. No thanks.

That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!

Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09

by HappyHuman on Aug 23, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, still worth it. I had "partially obstructed" and it was just a scaffold in half my line of vision, and I could see through it anyway.

Pretty intimate inside the tent and the stage was HUGE – wasn’t really a bad seat in the house. Just “partially” bad.
But SO worth it!!
:)

(billyok or Trooper quote)

by homesickalien on Aug 24, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

More good news

This Red Sox/Yankees game will probably go till midnight while our boys are already tucked in for the night in their beantown beds.

Bacon will have slammed a couple Southies and be jacked for his Fenway debut.

Clear skies ahead.

by Duck99 on Aug 23, 2009 7:45 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

big rec from me

Took 3 years to find out about disco demolition night.

by Jackkoho on Aug 23, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not a fan of the nickname of slayer.

we are gonna skullfuck this guy - thecip

by BoeJouma on Aug 23, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah it sucks

he even said its not his nick name.

Castro ran into the dugout and told pitcher Jose Contreras, "He hasn't missed a spot all day. I think hes going to do it." Contreras replied, "Shut the fuck up."

by e-gus on Aug 24, 2009 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't like it either. but it is what it is.

Think of it like bongwater but to a not even close extent.

by Toonderstrook on Aug 24, 2009 1:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i see the mariners sent cy jakobauskas down to the minors yesterday

now that they are done with the sox he is useless to them

Brian Anderson strikes out swinging. Three out.

by JOSEPANIAGUA on Aug 23, 2009 8:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

needs more A

we are gonna skullfuck this guy - thecip

by BoeJouma on Aug 23, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i truly, no shit, whole-heartedly believe

we will take 3 of 4 in boston. new york? im sure of 1 and feel good about taking 2. minnesota? im no bill melton, so i wont go full retard, 2 of 3. and i think we lose to the cubs. thats just our style. so thats 6/7 of 11 on the road. we play well against teams that play well, and be play like shit against teams that play like shit. thus, my reasoning for coming away from this trip at 70-65.

we are gonna skullfuck this guy - thecip

by BoeJouma on Aug 23, 2009 11:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Probably only take one in Minnesota

Cubs are a crapshoot, but its not the midseason series and they’re pretty craptastic at the moment so they don’t really have any reason to care like they do usually so 60-70% chance of winning methinks.

by Carbiner on Aug 23, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

4 over .500

is the high water mark so far this year, been there 3 or 4 times.

I’ll kiss you (on State and Madison) if you’re right

But what about F-I-E-L-D-E-R-S?

by ballyb on Aug 24, 2009 6:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

5

following perfection.

by Trooper on Aug 24, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Flying to Boston in a couple of hours to watch the first 2 rounds of the series.

I get the lucky draw of Jose and Freddy. I am expecting bad things, so we should win the first 2 games by scores of 10-2 and 15-1. In any case, its one last hurrah before the fucking school year starts next monday.

I’ll post when i return.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 24, 2009 12:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd be joining you

But I value my money. Good luck.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Aug 24, 2009 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

saw your bb tweet.

haven’t heard the new album, but am a big fan of all of his pre-ranconteurs stuff. how’s it compare?

Think of it like bongwater but to a not even close extent.

by Toonderstrook on Aug 24, 2009 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I only have Alternative to Love

And it’s more powerful power pop than that. He doesn’t slow it down as much.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Aug 24, 2009 2:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just saw j. tillman rock the sf.

i love me some fleet foxes, but i love me a j. tillman-fronted band more.

oh, yeah, go sox.

Think of it like bongwater but to a not even close extent.

by Toonderstrook on Aug 24, 2009 1:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

FNS and....

FMB because real aces shouldnt get owned by the royals,O’s,Cubs, and did i mention should not lose to the O’s?

YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD YES!
www.reverbnation.com/czheckproductions

by Czheck on Aug 24, 2009 2:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nah i got love for MB

but cant we jus win this division like we did last year?

YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD YES!
www.reverbnation.com/czheckproductions

by Czheck on Aug 24, 2009 2:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had my first taste of ouzo last nite. Sandwiching that between bottles of PBRs may not have been the brightest idea.

oh and to hell with you, White Sox. I’m glad they’re finally on this damn road trip — at least if they lose to Boston or New York I won’t be too angry. Lose to fucking Baltimore with Buehrle on the hill against a 6.00+ ERA pitcher? Sheeeeeeeeeeeee-it.

by CWSKeith on Aug 24, 2009 7:22 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A few things:

1) I said some time ago (well before the perfecto) Beuhrle would struggle in the second half….this is simply regression to the mean….he’s not that great…..merely good and very dependable 2) this team reminds me of the 2003 team, which also lacked that “it” factor 3) Podsednik is playing too much 4) why the fuck would you hit Rios third? 5) we lost this division in bits and pieces along the way….but it is particularly frustrating now when they should be winning more.

by dantesox on Aug 24, 2009 8:32 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, I'm not sure I'm using it exactly as intended....

but when I said that I’m thinking his ERA was low 3’s. I’m also guessing he was likely somewhat lucky with BAPIP, but that’s just a guess. I’m not surprised we’re seeing what we’re seeing.

by dantesox on Aug 24, 2009 8:59 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Kotsay over Dye???

Why did Ozzie pinch hit Kotsay over Dye? Did I miss something? Sorry if this was already discussed…I’ve been gone for three weeks.

Righties hit Johnson better than lefties.

by Franchise82 on Aug 24, 2009 9:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why not Torres instead of Garcia?

by Franchise82 on Aug 24, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL. Rec'd.

And I do believe you are asking a sincere question.

We’re a pack of a-holes. And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site... continues.

by winningugly on Aug 24, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too much planning involved

with a rope, lots of things can go wrong . . . pills are so much easier . . . hence, Garcia over Torres.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

by jc2313 on Aug 24, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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