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Looking Into The Off-Season: John Danks' New Contract

 


Kenny Williams has made it known that he plans on locking up the young core of Quentin,Danks,Floyd.  This past off-season, Kenny gave offers to both Floyd and Danks, and only one accepted.   Gavin Floyd accepted without any hesitation of complaint.  Meanwhile, John Danks did have a concern, which led to him rejecting the offer

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  John Danks made it clear that he wants to stay with the Sox, but he nicely said he deserves more money than Floyd.   Now 3/4's off the 2009 season has been completed and John Danks and Gavin Floyd have very similar stats.  Let's take a look at John Danks and Gavin Floyd's 09 stats.

 

Gavin Floyd            Games Started            IP               H            ER               HR             BB        SO      WHIP       ERA     K/9

                                          21                     137.0         123             62                13               47        116     1.22         4.07     7.62

 

John Danks           Games Started            IP               H            ER               HR             BB        SO      WHIP       ERA     K/9

                                          20                     119.1         110             53               13               46        100     1.31         4.00     7.41

 

You take a look at these stats, and they are suprisingly similar.  I left some categories out, but just take a look at them yourself, you will be suprised how similar these two are.   Now lets take at the White Sox current payroll and the estimated amount of money coming off expiring contracts.

 

Current Payroll: $104,598,500(10th)

Expiring Contracts

Jermaine Dye $11,500,000

Jim Thome $13,000,000

Jose Contreas $10,000,000

Ramon Castro $2,625,000

Bartolo Colon $1,000,000

Octavio Dotel  $6,000,000

Total: $43 Million

Now you take about 15 million out of that for Peavy, and another 12 million if Jermaine Dye's option is picked up, and that leaves you with 16million dollars until you are at last year payroll, as Kenny described as being the "cieling" for his budget.  Lets look at Floyds current contract.

Pre Arb                 Year 1                       Year 2                       Year 3                             Year 4

750K                     2.75M                         5M                             7M                                     9.5M

 

John Danks declined the exact(or extremely similar) contract and rejected it.  He had a valid point, since his peripherals were excellent, but this year is different.  This year, Floyd and Danks have put up close to the same numbers in numerous categories.  So the big questions are, does John Danks deserve a bigger contract than Floyds?  Will Kenny Williams take this season into account and offer him a relativly similar contract as last years offer?   One thing is for sure, Danks will be in a White Sox uniform next season.  While Danks deserves a nice contract, his real bench mark is his teammate in Gavin Floyd.  If Kenny Williams speaks the truth and the Sox are bumping the payroll cieling, don't be suprised to see Danks get offered yet another contract that is similar to the last offer.  Afterall, a couple million saved could be the difference between getting John Lacky or getting good ole' Bartolo Colon.

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What Type of Contract Will John Danks Get This Off-Season?
The Same Contract As Floyd
81 votes
More Years, More Money Than Floyd
35 votes
Less Money Than Floyd
6 votes

122 votes | Poll has closed

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if you compare FIPs

it’s 3.59 vs 4.07 (floyd vs danks)…FIPs are considered better in evaluating pitching independent of defense, and it seems floyd is pitching better than what ERA would indicate. if you check sox machine today, jim looked at floyd’s splits and he’s been showing off his big hairy cajones at home

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Time out Greenbay. Tell that fucking bullshit to the tourists

by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 6, 2009 7:45 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that 3.59 FIP is ranked 8th in the AL btw...

does anyone have any thoughts if he could sustain that for the remainder of his contract? if so, it’s a steal i thinks

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Time out Greenbay. Tell that fucking bullshit to the tourists

by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 6, 2009 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has the stuff too

Always has, it’s just been if he could put it together on the field. Seems his confidence is there now, it’s quite possible, he’ll be in the prime of his career during the contract so there’s no reason to think he couldn’t do it.

by Grinder in Training on Aug 6, 2009 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He will probably get more money in his contract

Because he is two years younger than Floyd. He wont get any more than four years considering KW and JR have a stance on signing players to long term contracts, specifically pitchers.

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by airnjp on Aug 6, 2009 9:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

none of the above

same years, more $

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by jc2313 on Aug 6, 2009 9:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Didn't Jon Lester get locked up last season?

that seems like a reasonable comp, although Lester is seemingly a tad better than Danks.

by CWSKeith on Aug 6, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

More cancer.

I think they are comparable. What makes you say Lester is better?

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 6, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He just is, dammit!

No — I got some numbers. ERA+ for this past season and this one:

Danks – 138, 116
Lester – 144, 124

WAR over the same time

Danks – 5.2, 2.4
Lester – 5.1, 4.5

“Seemingly a tad better” looks like a fair description, no?

by CWSKeith on Aug 6, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This year, yes.

Last year, no.

We’re a pack of a-holes. And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site... continues.

by winningugly on Aug 6, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

put it all together...

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by larry on Aug 6, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SSS, dammit.

We’re a pack of a-holes. And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site... continues.

by winningugly on Aug 6, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

White Sox Minor League Updates: http://twitter.com/SouthSidelarry

by larry on Aug 6, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Handedness.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Aug 6, 2009 9:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Same contract,

but a recruiting bonus for bringing his brother into the fold.

We’re a pack of a-holes. by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site...
continues.by ReservoirDog on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 6, 2009 11:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

pods

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Aug 6, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

him too

I have a whole 2 months to cover everything.

by No Pressure on Aug 6, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

brilliant!

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Aug 6, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Smartest thing you've ever said!

When life gives you lemons, just say "Fuck the lemons," and bail.

by homesickalien on Aug 7, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Q rejected one the same deal if I remember correctly...

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by The Wizard on Aug 8, 2009 7:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WIZ LIVEZ!

We’re a pack of a-holes. And my tradition of contributing absolutely nothing to this site... continues.

by winningugly on Aug 8, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not dead yet!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
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by The Wizard on Aug 10, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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