Bobby: Should He Stay or Should He Go Now?

he gone!

bet the sox don’t offer arb. KW was like “he’s under contract right now. there’s nothing more to say.”

by Hatchetm on Sep 24, 2009 9:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

go

considering the amount of money he’s due

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH

by Illini0509 on Sep 24, 2009 9:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

ha. I just created a front pager for the day too.... larry, dare I say, 'great minds think alike'? (snicker)

"Rios flied out to a fan, that's new." - billy

by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2009 9:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yes, you can dare. Since you kept the question short.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also - Bobby should go last year.

"Rios flied out to a fan, that's new." - billy

by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2009 9:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

sox have all these relievers making big dough

and they pitch like 60 innings/per year.

they should treat expiring contract/arb guys like rented mules (which they are).

by Hatchetm on Sep 24, 2009 9:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

putty sho they don't just let him go...(even though I doubt he pitches for the sox again)

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Sep 24, 2009 10:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

let easy heat close

should be same / better than bjenks

by Jack M on Sep 24, 2009 10:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Have to agree with larry:

Use him when you really need the out, not with no one on base with no outs.

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by winningugly on Sep 24, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i like figurehead closers.

by larry on Sep 24, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

if not thornton then someone else in the bullpen? go get kgregg on the cheap or some other FA?

by Jack M on Sep 24, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

K gregg is garbage.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Sep 24, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Where did Jenks come from?

Scrap heap. He’s lasted longer than most on this site (including me) thought. Gregg is proven mediocrity. Who’s down on the farm? Link?

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by winningugly on Sep 24, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hudson

If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra

by mick10 on Sep 24, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Garcia stays servicable as #5, perhaps.

Where is he utilized best? #5 or closer (which he has not done)?

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by winningugly on Sep 24, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think it's a given that Jenks is gone.

Unless he has arm problems we don’t know about. One thing that makes me suspicious is his low use of his curve this year. If the club knows there is a health issue they won’t bring him back for the kind of money he makes. If he’s gone, I wouldn’t move Thornton to the closer’s spot unless we got a proven setup man and preferably left handed. Oz has the flexibility to pitch him in the 7th or 8th of tight games depending on the matchups with left handers.
If Bobby goes, maybe Dotel is brought back? He’s a possible closer. I wasn’t totally serious about Hudson closing but it is possible if he proves to have the best 2 pitches of the remaining relievers. Jenks did it and so did Papelbon, both with success.
Hudson will be more valuable as a starter but only if and after he develops his slider and curve.

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by mick10 on Sep 24, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hudson

hasn’t shown the ability to k guys regularly from what i’ve read… unless that improves, i wouldn’t want him in the closer’s role. interesting idea

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH

by Illini0509 on Sep 24, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

what have you been reading??

Hudson has been in the Sox system for just over a year and has a ridiculous K-rate. 256 Ks in 217 professional innings, since being drafted.

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/H/Dan-Hudson.shtml

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by Marlafar on Sep 24, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's a law student.

Perhaps “K”-ing, in lawspeak, means “restraining order” or something.

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by winningugly on Sep 24, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

this

AA =/= MLB

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH

by Illini0509 on Sep 24, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

link fail

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/9/21/1047748/daniel-hudson-is-gonna-be-good

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH

by Illini0509 on Sep 24, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I should have been clearer also

i’m well aware of him minor league numbers, doing it at this level is another story… not saying he won’t get there as cheat alluded to, but that if he can’t put guys away, maybe there are better options

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH

by Illini0509 on Sep 24, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

*his

WU-itis

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH

by Illini0509 on Sep 24, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree, we gotta go out and get something - make a trade maybe

but don’t pick up Gregg. I have had Gregg on my fantasy team 2 years in a row and he is a disaster. I’d rather keep Jenks.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Sep 24, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not for his arb money.

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by winningugly on Sep 24, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah Bobby's ship has sailed here

Loved you, nice knowing you.

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Sep 24, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

why not decline the arb

let him test the FA market and when he finds out he isn’t getting anywhere near $8-10M a season, sign him to a one year $3-5M deal? If he does sign somewhere else, so be it.

I only suggest this if we can’t make a deal for something of value for the bullpen.

I don’t want Gregg.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Sep 24, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

if you decline arb

you can’t sign him until may. something like that. or that’s the way it used to be.

by Hatchetm on Sep 24, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, you're right

forgot about that.

Well, Linebrink is usually good for April and then folds…then you plug in Jenks in May.

My idea is blown to sh*t…oh well.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Sep 24, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Keep your day job, Bob.

;)

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by winningugly on Sep 24, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

dabbling in ML GM duties is not my strong suit.

I can karaoke like a motherf’er, though.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Sep 24, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I bet you do well in Japan.

Like Dylan. And Cheap Trick.

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by winningugly on Sep 24, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Probably

I usually sound like I am speaking Japanese when I karaoke.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Sep 24, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I ususally sound like I'm Turning Japanese

when I sing.

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by winningugly on Sep 24, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

usually

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by winningugly on Sep 24, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tom Waits.

"Rios flied out to a fan, that's new." - billy

by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

wait you sound like Tom Waits when you karaoke?

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by Hazymania on Sep 24, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep. And I'm big in Japan.

"Rios flied out to a fan, that's new." - billy

by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can make anything sound country

according to the mrs.

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by e-gus on Sep 24, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I want a Chocolate Beckham

Anything that travels that far, ought to have a stewardess on it..

by DrEmilioLizardo on Sep 24, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you're telling me, i picked him up and it sucked

now i have marmol, hoffman, and nunez going in the finals

by Jack M on Sep 24, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jenks was scrap heap who threw 100 mph

Gregg gets paid to throw BP.

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Sep 24, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

stumblebums

like todd jones and borowski can put up jenx-like numbers. well, maybe not, but i just like saying stumblebums.

by Hatchetm on Sep 24, 2009 10:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

assuming the team's rotation is healthy next year

I refuse to get all hot and bothered over the bullpen next year. Get me a few more runs dammit.

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Sep 24, 2009 11:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Besides that, Linebrink can't get THAT much worse from this year, right? Unless his arm falls off, he's gotta be due to improve.

"Rios flied out to a fan, that's new." - billy

by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think remain will be very 46663 next reason too if might suprised a few people

by hoodlight on Sep 24, 2009 11:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

You don't say.

"Rios flied out to a fan, that's new." - billy

by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I never thought of it that way. Interesting.

If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra

by mick10 on Sep 24, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

first thing I have ever agreed with you on.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Sep 24, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I feel like a word salad right about now.

Tasty.

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by winningugly on Sep 24, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

69 mighty fine.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know I'm already surprised

by Q!'s Qrew on Sep 24, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

your offense is only as good as your bullpen.

you should know this by now.

If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra

by mick10 on Sep 24, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

a key to a good offense is

a good bullpen or maybe it was more beer, i don’t recall

-Jeeves Life in the Cell

by jeeves on Sep 24, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

SMOLTZ!

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by winningugly on Sep 24, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

""There also must be a change in the attitude............"

'09 White Sox - Too many brain cramps.

by ballyb on Sep 24, 2009 11:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Blow it up!

Keep DJ and Thornton and throw a match on the rest of the garbage in the pen and start from scratch. None of them are worth a shit.

by abat on Sep 24, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

How about this?

Start 2010 by letting Dye and Dotel walk. Trade Pena, Linebrink, Fields, Wise, and Castro for whatever you can get which probably won’t be much. Trade Jenks for some bullpen help and turn over the closer role to Thornton. Promote Hudson, Nunez, and Flowers. I’d also let Cox go. He cost us too many runs this year with his poor judgement. Resign Pods 1yr, move Q to right, and look to bolster bullpen in off season through FA or trade. Rios will improve. Can’t get any worse.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't trade Pena

No reason to give up on him yet

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Sep 24, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ahem...

That was "abat"’s first post here.

Not my thoughts at all.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pods in left and Q in right? That's a great way to improve our defense next year.

by chisox2691 on Sep 24, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

see above.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you forgot one

let Walker walk

-Jeeves Life in the Cell

by jeeves on Sep 24, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

see above

-Chiburb

-Jeeves Life in the Cell

by jeeves on Sep 24, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pods at DH

Pods in LF or DH with Q in RF his natural position. Rios should stay in CF period. This is the best OF defense unless you move Pods to full time DH and sign Figgins which I don’t see happening. As far as Pena goes, if you’re willing to give him a longer leash might as well extend one to Linebrink and bring him back too.

by abat on Sep 24, 2009 2:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I still don't like Pods DH'ing, don't think I ever will.

It’s the AL, get a power DH.

by Jack M on Sep 24, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Power clog the base paths DH

We had that for years with Thome, Thomas etc. We have a little versatility with Pods.

by abat on Sep 24, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, especially that worthless POS Thomas!

Finally a poster that makes sense on this site.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

exactly.

what did we ever win with thomas or thome at DH?

by larry on Sep 24, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nothing...bring back Jurassic Carl

by Q!'s Qrew on Sep 24, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

now there was a player.

he sure could take a dolphin the opposite way with the best of them.

by larry on Sep 24, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

wtf you talking about? frank "carried" the club with that 2-week hot stretch in 2005

i'm alex rios' last fan

by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 24, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They had a lot of heart and determination

but what good is that if you can’t measure it?

If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra

by mick10 on Sep 24, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No good. That's what!

"Rios flied out to a fan, that's new." - billy

by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

NOTHING!!! Not even a free taco or whatever they give away at Bull's games when they score 100 points or more!!!

All we got was crummy fireworks and exploding scoreboards. Not a goddam thing to eat!
Certainly no rings to wear.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well....a free Dunkin Donuts coffee if they scored in the 4th.

Or something like that.
That’s better than a ring!

"Rios flied out to a fan, that's new." - billy

by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That coffee was so good this morning

almost didn’t make me feel bad for having three games in this last homestand. Almost…

by coffeepac on Sep 24, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am seeing my winter months on this site stretch out before me.

Anyone know about auto-asphyxiation? I’d rather go that way. Clothed, of course.

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by winningugly on Sep 24, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hee.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Isn't that when you leave the car running with the garage door closed?

If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra

by mick10 on Sep 24, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

That's me. Don't think WU has stated a preference before now.

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— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just beginning my Shuffling off the mortal coil" shopping.

It’s gonna be a long winter.

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by winningugly on Sep 24, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Especially with my lardy ass at the helm.

"Rios flied out to a fan, that's new." - billy

by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Holy Crap

I think suggesting Podsednik is a superior DH to Frank Thomas should be an automatic banning.

by hitlesswonder on Sep 24, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or win a prize.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The right rail!

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Sep 24, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

HSA will oversee the group, I'm told

by Q!'s Qrew on Sep 24, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Editrix.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Authorix.

Don’t want to be clubbed to death, father.

"Rios flied out to a fan, that's new." - billy

by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You got demoted already?!?

You are no son of mine.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lookit the bottom of the page...I'm an Author Dipshit. Guapo's my supervisor.

I think the day I got my new toy, I told you I had a link to “Manage Editorial.” Maybe that was confusing.

"Rios flied out to a fan, that's new." - billy

by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You work under Guapo? Now THAT'S funny!

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

She works under more than Guapo.

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by Sox Machine on Sep 24, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

(golf swing)

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by Sox Machine on Sep 24, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You'll have to explain Carson to the kids.

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— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 5:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

carson?

by Q!'s Qrew on Sep 24, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

johnny carson

tv talk show host and comedian of the mid to late 20th century. occasionally would highlight a punch line with a simulated golf swing.

by Hatchetm on Sep 24, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ah, thanks

I know who he is, but didn’t really ever see him or his show

by Q!'s Qrew on Sep 24, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

/suddenly feels old.

by Trooper on Sep 24, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thinking now that abat is working a parody, and if so a prize is deserved

It’s genius.

by hitlesswonder on Sep 24, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Go away, before I hire a ninja to eliminate you.

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Sep 24, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

whats up ninja.

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by e-gus on Sep 24, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Go Ninja, Go Ninja, Go!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFLGRidfFo4

by Q!'s Qrew on Sep 24, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Linebrink won't be going anywhere on the basis of his contract

Definitely no reason to give up on Pena. If Bobby goes, I’d like to see Dotel brought back and I would assume it could be done a lot cheaper than the last deal we gave him.

Thornton, Dotel, Pena, Linebrink, DJ, Hudson/Garcia… not terrible in my book, esp given the starting staff.

by Q!'s Qrew on Sep 24, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Would still like to see a LH power hitter

We would be much better off next year with a little more power from the left side. Any ideas?

by abat on Sep 24, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is Thome a free agent?

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thome is available, I believe.

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by winningugly on Sep 24, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

don't waver now, brother!

those guys clog the bases. versatility is the order of the day!

by larry on Sep 24, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I believe we could fit one in our OF somewhere

Must be one available through trade since KW says no to the FA market.

by abat on Sep 24, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thome in center.

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by Sox Machine on Sep 24, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

do you think his back could handle it?

by larry on Sep 24, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's the easiest position to play.

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by Sox Machine on Sep 24, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Seeing Griffey in CF was worth it just to make this exchange possible

by hitlesswonder on Sep 24, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The only time we had an actual statue in CF before he retired.

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by winningugly on Sep 24, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

A General nonetheless!

"Rios flied out to a fan, that's new." - billy

by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

exactly, bobby dernier and mitch webster could play it

i'm alex rios' last fan

by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 24, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Put Thome in CF

and Buehrle’s no-no is less scintillating. Thome is standing at the wall to catch Kaplan’s shot.

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by winningugly on Sep 24, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He certainly wouldn't clog the alleys.

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— Leo Durocher

by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not a huge fan, but H.Matsui was mentioned the other day

Could prob be had fairly cheap. I think you’re right about a trade being more likely though.

by Q!'s Qrew on Sep 24, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not a huge fan, but H.Matsui was mentioned the other day

Doesn’t excite me much either. Must be something better and younger out there.

by abat on Sep 24, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

carlos delgado.

by larry on Sep 24, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not a huge fan, but H.Matsui was mentioned the other day

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by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh I see what I/You did there

by Q!'s Qrew on Sep 24, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Would someone please explain who H. Matsui is,

and why he is being mentioned so much? Even though I am not a huge fan (more averaged-sized), I still am interested.

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by winningugly on Sep 24, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not a huge fan, but as far as H.Matsui goes...

Several websites, including SPORTS FROG , have noted a 2003 TIME "Asian Heroes" profile that mentions Hideki Matsui’s porn collection: ( This now makes complete sense ) " Indeed, his only eccentricity, if it can be called that, is his extensive private library of adult videos

by Q!'s Qrew on Sep 24, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm becoming a bigger fan.

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by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And to quantify H.Matsui further

Take porn, for instance. While porn is not publicly displayed, every fakir worth his rod has a vast all-inclusive personal museum of deviance that would make Casanova blush. For comparison’s sake, according to Sports Illustrated, Yankee outfielder Hideki Matsui has 55,000 distinct items in his porn collection.

by Q!'s Qrew on Sep 24, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's a piker. Wait'll he's my age.

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by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

From a purely H.Matsui perspective, I'm not a big fan of how often he's mentioned.

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by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

to each h.is own I suppose

by Q!'s Qrew on Sep 24, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Barry Bonds

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by mick10 on Sep 24, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

no reason to ever have Pods DH

We play in one of the biggest bandboxes in the league no reason to have Pods DHing. Like it or not this team wins with the HRs, if they aren’t hitting em then we are not winning

by 815Sox on Sep 24, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Rec'd

You need the boppers. I heard that they are counting on 90 dingers from the Rios, Konerko, Quentin combination…. that is highly doubtful.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 24, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Delgado sounds good

But someone to fit into the outfield would be preferable. Carlos doesn’t even play a good 1B.

by abat on Sep 24, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree. I heard him interviewed and I think he has a future as a color man.

Sounds better than DJ for sure.

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by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's racist!

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by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's racist!

by Q!'s Qrew on Sep 24, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Kids must be home from school

by abat on Sep 24, 2009 3:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I think they got out Earl today. Could give you an exact time but mobile posting doesn't show times.

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by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 4:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Early.

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by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 4:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

No

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by billyok on Sep 24, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Off-topic: Genisoy's claims about dialing up the flavor of their soy crisps appears to check out upon first sampling

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by billyok on Sep 24, 2009 4:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/underachievers-i-dont-think-so

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by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Sep 24, 2009 4:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

he forgets.

that brian anderson is the closest thing to a five tool player we had, that dewayne wise is a good-looking ballplayer, that there’s this motherfucker who is making 10, 12, 14 million and that there’s this other motherfucker who is making 4, 5 million.

by larry on Sep 24, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think he forgets that there wasn't a full season of

Beckham, Q, Pods, and Dye (though present).
Things might have been different.
That said, without Kenny naming names, it’s all speculative.

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by Chiburb on Sep 24, 2009 5:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

i don't think he's forgotten that.

by larry on Sep 24, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he's right more or less

but i hate that fucker big time.

by Hatchetm on Sep 24, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is this true?

Anyone notice the Sox had the WORST BABIP in the AL this year? Bad luck happens.

So we FNS’ed as a team this year. Guess all of them should be traded. Perhaps bad chemistry.

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by winningugly on Sep 24, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it is true

http://www.fangraphs.com/teams.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&type=2&season=2009&month=0

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by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Sep 24, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They were also 2nd worst in line drive % so they may have been a little unlucky

but they also sucked at hitting.

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by mick10 on Sep 24, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And we have several regulars with poor speed

by 3E8 on Sep 24, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

they were last in 2008, too.

it ain’t bad luck that’s the primary cause.

by larry on Sep 25, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So FNS' bad BABIP in 2008

was an aberration/bad luck but our bad team BABIP is not?

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by winningugly on Sep 25, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

right.

flyball teams usually will have a low BABIP. notice another team that is ranked poorly in each of the past two seasons (phillies). both clubs are homer-happy types. as discussed above, line drive is generally the type of contact which will translate into a higher BABIP. the white sox have continued to hit flyballs at about their usual rate. the primary difference between this year and last year is a higher groundball rate and flyballs not leaving the park (which, of course, wouldn’t appear in BABIP because of the IP part).

by larry on Sep 25, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

OK, I understand.

So do you think phasing JD/Thome out and a full season of Getz/Becks (and more Pods, perhaps) might bring up our BABIP? (I suppose it will depend upon who DH’s and who plays RF to replace them, but whatthehell.)

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by winningugly on Sep 25, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

thome has a high babip, both career and this season. he wasn't the problem.

or, at least, his babip is about league average and certainly higher than the white sox’ overall average. dye isn’t a huge problem, either, though perhaps going forward that’s not the case.

at any rate, i don’t care much about babip. as my post above illustrates, it’s not particularly indicative of team success, either overall or offensively.

by larry on Sep 25, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ive had a couple drinks

and i cant wait till next year. as long as we dont have linkebrink we will win the AL central.

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by Czheck on Sep 24, 2009 9:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Better have some more - Linebrink still here along with the complete coaching staff - till at least '11

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by Brush Back on Sep 24, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

more drinks needed. why cant we throw Linebrink and Pena and maybe Walker under the bus of shame and blame?

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by Czheck on Sep 24, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can't throw Walk under the bus

He’s so hard working that he is there in the morning before the busses are even running

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by Brush Back on Sep 25, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Could Heath Bell be a possibility for the bullpen ?

I was in S.D. in August and the local talk then was that Bell and Gonzalez are sure to be dealt this winter for more kids. Would the Sox have enough to offer?

by gar ridge pride on Sep 24, 2009 9:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs