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Jake Peavy Knows The Secrets to Sucess

For a game that helped the Twins more than the officially-eliminated-from-playoff-contention White Sox, that was a thoroughly satisfying game. We all got a little glimpse of next season:

  • Jake Peavy breezed through 7 innings of scoreless baseball, striking out 8. The only ball that was hit with authority was his first pitch of the night, a drive to the right field wall saved by a nice catch by the rangeless one.
  • After sending the minimum to the plate over the first 4 innings, and getting no-hit into the 6th by Ernest Borgnine, Gordon Beckham brought the dreamy with a 2-run shot for the game's only runs.
  • Matt Thornton shut the door in his first opportunity to audition for the possibly vacant '10 closer role.

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Dump Jenks, Peavy is the Boobs

Thornton reminds me of Bobby 4 years ago, aggressive. Here’s my fastball, try and hit it. Peavy is real, real good. His fastball seemed to pickup more movement as the game wore on. That backwards K on Guillen was filthy.

by Shakey on Sep 25, 2009 10:06 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I can't remember the last time Thornton was that excited.

Almost as if he never really considered in his other closer stints that he was actually the closer.

by Daniel Berlyn on Sep 25, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely fired up.

Maybe he realizes he’s auditioning for the role. Quick work too, good rhythm. Plus he knows he’ll get less work as a closer, since Ozzie won’t use him in tie games.

by Shakey on Sep 25, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks, I do my best.

;)

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Sep 26, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

rec'd for sayin he was the boobs.

i said that about a super dawg i had tonight.

lets go dodgers

by BoeJouma on Sep 26, 2009 2:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

at least we

beat the tigers

YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD YES!
www.reverbnation.com/czheckproductions

by Czheck on Sep 25, 2009 10:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Philly's gonna need a closer next year...

who’d they got in the minors?

2009: Not with a bang but a whimper.

by Andronicus on Sep 25, 2009 10:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Jenks for Thome!

On that fly to right-center
I kinda expected JD to plow into Rios with an ATV.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Aug 17, 2009 7:35 PM PDT reply recommended Unrec 3

by blackoutsox on Sep 25, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jenks for Floyd, Rowand, Gio, Thome, Hernandez, ect...

On that fly to right-center
I kinda expected JD to plow into Rios with an ATV.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Aug 17, 2009 7:35 PM PDT reply recommended Unrec 3

by blackoutsox on Sep 25, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Philly will still have Brad Lidge next year

which I guess doesn’t necessarily rule out needing a closer…

That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!

Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09

by HappyHuman on Sep 25, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice win

Peavy was a boss out there….. and that catch by JD would not have been made by Q!uestionable or Pan, which is why i still like him in the outfield more than the other 2. Beckham got a hold of that one…. He has been turning lately- I hope he doesn’t forget how to lace those shots down the right field line though.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 25, 2009 10:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Question for the game

What did Ozzie throw on the field after being ejected?

"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"

by Brush Back on Sep 25, 2009 11:27 PM CDT reply actions  

argue balls and strike very loudly

THESE WHITE SOX PLAYERS MAKE ME FEEL SO BLAH EXCEPT FOR A.J. !

by pierzynskirules on Sep 25, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

a shitty offense becomes acceptable

When you have a Cy dealing. I’m too lazy to look up the shutouts, but I think the Sox were something like 8-50 when scoring under 3 runs.

Hopefully Cy Buehrle with his 12 wins learned something about competing.

by Duck99 on Sep 25, 2009 11:41 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Here's another fun fact.

We are now 9-0 this year when our pitchers hold the other team scoreless.

If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra

by mick10 on Sep 26, 2009 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

That a 1.00 winning percentage!!!

Who’da thunk?

Rec’d for being an ass – why isn’t this shit green?

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Sep 26, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

the future is now.

alsoo I’m wearin’ shades.

"ALL THESE WORLDS/ ARE YOURS EXCEPT/ EUROPA/ ATTEMPT NO
LANDING THERE/ USE THEM TOGETHER/ USE THEM IN PEACE"

by thecip on Sep 26, 2009 12:43 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

left after the 7th to go drunk downtown.

im am quite drink, and am very happy to have watched such a great performance by peavy. i about poopydooped when i said “savior time” and on cue he fuckin JACKED one. that was the fuckin titties. the sox sucked lately, but i still fuckin love them.

lets go dodgers

by BoeJouma on Sep 26, 2009 2:35 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

jake peavy just knows how to win

i bet he feels good after not giving up a longball in this park. i cant wait to watch our rotation next year. whether it be the Fab 4 and hudson or garcia, it should be rally good. i mean, even iwth C and C this year, arent we in the top 5 for starting pitching? think about what we’ll be at next year dude(ette)s!!!

lets go dodgers

by BoeJouma on Sep 26, 2009 2:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Especially when we pick up Arlodis Chapman as our closer!!!!

we need more cubans

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Sep 26, 2009 7:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Crazy Bradley for the Legend?

Oh yeah, that will happen….further proof that Paul Sullivan has limited brain cells.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-26-cubs-giants-chicago-sep26,0,1822674.story

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Sep 26, 2009 7:24 AM CDT reply actions  

You cannot trade for the Legend

You go on a Vision Quest using nothing but a tent made of 1983 championship pennants while wearing a bra on your head. You ask Herm Schneider for old unwashed bandages and jocks from Rowand’s stint with us, you huff them, and you sit there contemplating the sound of one man colliding with an outfield wall. Then MAYBE he’ll appear.

"What do you mean?" he answered. "I love the Outfield!"

by madopal on Sep 26, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

2010 Outfield

Q = RF
Rios/Pods platoon = CF
F. Lewis (SFG) = LF

Defense/speed better, Offense upgrade

by teepee14 on Sep 26, 2009 8:33 AM CDT reply actions  

Does this even deserve a response?

What planet do you live on? Q can barely manage LF and Pods can’t play center.

by Shakey on Sep 26, 2009 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Abd they're not paying Rios that much to platoon

"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"

by Brush Back on Sep 26, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, better here than a fan post.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Sep 26, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

So we'll have a $60 million center fielder who plays against left handers?

Ok, I get that part of it. Would you mind breaking down the offensive upgrade part of this?

If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra

by mick10 on Sep 26, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

i love fred lewis.

i don’t know what the stats say, but when i’ve seen him play the outfield he looked worse than adam dunn. the breaks he gets on balls are possibly the worst i’ve ever seen.

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Sep 26, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

this may be one of the best (read: worst) first comments ever.

someone should do a fanpost about this topic.

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Sep 26, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

which reminds me

thank god we don’t have thomas or thome clogging up the bases anymore.

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Sep 26, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

yah that fucking thomas....

what good was his .487 OBP in 1994? so what if he got on in just under HALF OF HIS AB’S….. all he did was clog the bases. Jerk.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 26, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

[x]

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Sep 26, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sarcasm is a bitch.

So wait, we want Thom/e/as clogging bases? Uhhh

by Shakey on Sep 26, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

fial

2009: Not with a bang but a whimper.

by Andronicus on Sep 26, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

what are the chances sox decline arbitration?

if so, a little concerned about the bullpen, because we have no one like matt thornton to bridge to matt thornton the closer…we have

thornton
dotel
pena
carrasco
torres
liney

this does not cut it. bullpens can be created from the scrap heap, which is what i prefer, but what are our options?

i'm alex rios' last fan

by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 26, 2009 10:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Dotel not in plans

don’t know if this is the complete and accurate story, but according to this article, Dotel was already told they won’t attempt to resign him.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/1789638,CST-SPT-soxip25.article

You know the Germans always make good stuff....

by metasox on Sep 26, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

been to last two giants-cubs games

and i am reminded why i hate the fucking cubs and their idiot fans.

one jackass is yelling as giants take the field on thursday, seasons over giants! i reminded him that the cubs are further behind giants, the cubs suck and havent won a title in 101 years.

upon the first cubs single in the 1st inning another jackass stands up yelling and screaming, pumping his fists like they just hit a walk-off in a playoff game. i told him to sit down and reminded him that the cubs suck and havent won a title in 101 years.

they may have the biggest collection of douche bag fans around

by The Scoper on Sep 26, 2009 10:58 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

one more jackass cub fan

returned a beer twice in the bottom of seventh because he claimed it was too foamy as zambrano made quick work of the giants. this stall tactic single handedly screwed the three people behind him, including myself, who were trying to buy beer before the end of the seventh as the inning ended

by The Scoper on Sep 26, 2009 11:06 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

How did Fred Lewis look?

If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra

by mick10 on Sep 26, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

haha.

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Sep 26, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

This comment was not rec'd on reputation alone.

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Sep 26, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno

I find something mildly poetic about dashing the hopes of the team in 1st in the last week of the season two years in a row, even if it would mean the Twins would go this year.

by vince_ on Sep 26, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm rooting for th Sox to sweep the Tigers

and the Twins to win the division. It will really reinforce how crappy this team played after the ASB.

H-E-A-R-T.

'09 White Sox - Too many brain cramps.

by ballyb on Sep 26, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too little too fucking late, to look on the dark side

to look on the bright side, 2010 is shaping up quite nicely for the moment.

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Sep 26, 2009 1:53 PM CDT reply actions  

i blindly project the starting rotation to be better than 2005

2010 peavy >= second half 2005 count
2010 danks > 2005 buehrle
2010 floyd > 2005 garcia
2010 buerhle ~ 2005 garland
2010 garcia/hudson ~ 2005 el duque / mccarthy

i'm alex rios' last fan

by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 26, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

2005 WHIPs and FIPs

Contreras: 1.23, 4.21
Buerhle: 1.18, 3.42
Garcia: 1.25, 4.05
Garland: 1.17, 4.24
El Duque: 1.46, 4.87
McCarthy: 1.18, 4.96

i'm alex rios' last fan

by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 26, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

sure, but will our defense be better than this year?

Should be in the outfield because of Rios, assuming he plays and Ozzie doesn’t put Pods out there all the time.

Infield? Unclear.

by vince_ on Sep 26, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's true, but we need to trot out more than Rios to improve outfield D

Infield D of Becks, Che, Getz, and Kong remains the same, so I don’t expect infield D to improve.

i'm alex rios' last fan

by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 26, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

how can you not expect infield D to improve

With Beckham maybe learning his position and Alexei another year at his natural position. Add a full year of a double play combination, how does it not get better? Today must have been the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.

by Shakey on Sep 26, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

i thought there was analysis to show that becks D won't improve significantly

given the position and his skill set. alexie’s natural position is short so i don’t expect his D to improve significantly either. i expect kong to regress slightly, and i’m not sure what to expect out of getz. somebody school me if necessary.

i'm alex rios' last fan

by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 26, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

seems unrealistic

that a guy who never has played 3b before is not going to get better than he was this season. that is just plain stupid. also, its been pointed out that alexei’s D has improved over the course of the year. even if getz stays where he is, the familiarity of the DP combo has to do nothing but help them.

by Shakey on Sep 26, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I expect him to be a sig better

He’s already improved, both statistically and by eye. His UZR has gone from -4 or so at it’s nadir to -1.4 now. So he’s been playing a + 3B for the last couple of months. Yes it’s a small sample size, but it correlates with his qualitative improvement and his greatly improved error rate (a disproportionate percent of his – UZR was error runs). I think he’s a +5-10 UZR guy for next year. Alexei is already an average to above average SS. Getz is really the only one I’m worried about (his range is concerning).

Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of.

by bhoov on Sep 26, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Che and Beckham were both terrible at the beginning of their season.

Both improved significantly in the last month or two so I don’t think it’s a stretch to say the infield D won’t automatically be better next year. Remember, we won’t have 2 months of Fields and Betemit in the 2010 infield either. It should be much better next year.

If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra

by mick10 on Sep 26, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea, hopefully it kicks in but I would think they would monitor it so it won't.

2011 option guaranteed at $15M if Ordonez has:
135 starts or 540 PAs in 2010, or
270 starts or 1,080 PAs in 2009-10

by chisox2691 on Sep 26, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

"they would monitor it so it won't."

GMs call that “franking”.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Sep 26, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

love that figure there

65.5 worth of garbage. bondo, willis and robertson are shit, and ordonez and guillen are on the downside of a slippery slope. ordonez’s numbers from this year are embarassing for 17 Mil a season.

by Shakey on Sep 26, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess I haven't seen...

Peavy pitch very often, but I sure did enjoy watching him last night. Perhaps I was reading too much pitch movement into what I was seeing, but the baseball seemed to be dancing for him last night. Can’t wait to see him strike-out the Legend next year in the Sox/Cubs Crosstown Classic (at least if you believe today’s Trib).

by palehose67 on Sep 26, 2009 3:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Outfield defense will be better in 2010

Leave Rios in CF full time. His hitting will improve because it certainly can’t get much worse. Letting Dye walk improves the RF defense. I’d move Q to RF which is his natural position. He has had a rough year offensively and defensively because of this bad knees and feet. Coming back next season healthly should remedy that. As for LF leave Pods out there where most teams put there weakest defensive OF. It’s the best place to hide hide him.

by abat on Sep 26, 2009 4:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Sox last 6 years . O/U .500

Sox last 6 years . O/U .500

    til 6/30 , 7/1 on

’04 – +12, -4
’05 – +29, +7
’06 – +25, -7
’07 – -9, -9
’08 – +11, +4
’09 – +1, -7

H-E-A-R-T.

'09 White Sox - Too many brain cramps.

by ballyb on Sep 26, 2009 4:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Totals, '04 - '09TD.

“1st half” — +69

“2nd half” — -16

'09 White Sox - NO H-E-A-R-T.

by ballyb on Sep 26, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

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