Shocker: Getz To Have Surgery
Having to leave the team in order to have surgery on Thursday in Philadelphia was not the way the second baseman wanted his 2009 season to end, let alone to have that last day with his teammates day cut short because of bad weather, but there was one more light work session with hitting coach Greg Walker in the batting cages for Getz, and then off he goes.
The lower oblique strain that put him on the 15-day disabled list back on Aug. 21 had still been bothering him, so Getz saw a specialist and a sports hernia was discovered. The plan was first to address it at the end of the season, but that plan went out the window now that the rest of the Sox schedule is basically meaningless.
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So this is injury number ----- ? That's unfortunate.
"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"
Hummel figurines aren't as fragile.
Maybe it’s just a flukey season…
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Sep 29, 2009 5:44 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I'd say flukey - except he broke his wrist at the end of last season
"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"
listen idiot, just because getz has an oblique strain doesn't mean he has a history
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 29, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, yes.
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
my statement was pure sarcasm old man
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 30, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions
As was mine, brutha.
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
get an eye exam or learn how to read
before engaging in civil discussions
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 30, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
AYE!
my mistake was reading the wrong article. yours was believing that a newly anointed 3B man wouldn’t become a better one. Think what you want chief.
and i stood corrected with you
and more importantly others who provided some data, of which i have no problem with.
what i do have a problem with was the tone of your comments, who likes to be called an idiot for a seemingly innocuous but incorrect statement. save the assinine trash talk for sox talk. if you think you’re better than me, so be it, i don’t really give a shit. i don’t know what happened to him, but your comments ring the tone of WTGTD and most folks here thought he was a buffoon. if you want to go down that path, that’s your choice.
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 30, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Mandelbaum! Mandelbaum!
MANDELBAUM!!!
;)
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 30, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
it's go time old man ;)
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 30, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
sorry, my tone was a little harsh
next time i’ll do it like larry does to me and make you feel stupid without using the word stupid or dumbass.
1. He does, however, use "dumbfuck."
2. Drop it.
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I'M STILL HERE...
AND HAVE BEEN FRONT PAGED MORE TIMES THAN YOU.
"you should go back to your cowardly practice of offering no opinion of your own."
-picktoclick
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 3, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Sep 30, 2009 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
That is exceptional. Rec'd.
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
Not green yet? Tough, unappreciative crowd.
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
You made it so.
I could not agree more.
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
why did you take your thread down?
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 30, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Pearls before swine.
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
spoilers or haters?
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 30, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
My little China doll, that Getzy is...
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
Like I didn't think of that? And passed cuz it made no sense?
Senile OPOS.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Sep 29, 2009 6:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Waiting for billyok to ask "where's the game thread"?
In 3, 2, 1…
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Sep 29, 2009 6:02 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
21 hours and counting down
"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"
I'm wondering what happened too
thought I hit publish and took a nap… I guess it was all a dream… Joanie was there.
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Is "Joanie" your sock's name?
Cute.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Sep 29, 2009 6:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Were you reading word up magazine?
White Sox fan; Jeppson's Malort man
by KarkoviceIsHawt on Sep 29, 2009 8:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
If you don't post a substantive comment soon
people will think we are related.
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
i agree that sucks
THESE WHITE SOX PLAYERS MAKE ME FEEL SO BLAH EXCEPT FOR A.J. !
by pierzynskirules on Sep 29, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
no more lazy cubans.
damn communists sitting around and waiting for the state to do everything for them.
oh.
Chapman can throw a "lazy" 101mph lefthanded fastball for my team anyday of the week.
Green and Gold / Black, and White
I miss the Mad Magazine thread.
What did you assholes do to piss her off?
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Sep 29, 2009 6:08 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Speaking of Sano...
Is there any way to accurately project a 16 year old? Viciedo at least has a couple more years sample size. $3.5 M (if accurate) seems a lot of dough on spec.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Sep 29, 2009 6:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Sure just add 2 years to his age
read better.
"give the guy more than six days to get up to speed."
by larry on Sep 6, 2009 12:10 PM CDT
by Scotty Ballgame on Sep 29, 2009 6:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
So he's the second coming of A-Rod?
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Sep 29, 2009 6:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I think she wanted the role of Becky Thatcher but it went to oneloyaldawg.
"And when I called him, and asked him to stand up for me, I know I shocked the shit out of him." - Michael Jordan, on choosing David Thompson as his Hall of Fame sponsor.
When HSA's state is underwater
she can have whatever role she wants
read better.
"give the guy more than six days to get up to speed."
by larry on Sep 6, 2009 12:10 PM CDT
by Scotty Ballgame on Sep 29, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks guys
Once a Dawg, Always a Dawg. How Sweet it is!
by oneloyaldawg on Sep 30, 2009 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm quite content with lifelong Sox fan. As in, the whole team.
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Post-Roid rage?
HOUSTON (AP)—Former major leaguer Chuck Knoblauch has been charged with assaulting his common-law wife.
A judge set Knoblauch’s bond at $10,000 after he appeared in court Tuesday. According to a criminal complaint, Knoblauch’s wife told police he hit her in the face and then choked her at their Houston home on Friday.
Knoblauch’s attorney did not immediately return a telephone call Tuesday.
The 41-year-old former infielder is a Houston native and a four-time All-Star who played for the New York Yankees, Minnesota Twins and Kansas City Royals from 1991-02.
Knoblauch was one of more than 80 players who were accused of using performance-enhancing drugs in the 2007 Mitchell Report on baseball’s steroids era. Knoblauch later acknowledged using performance enhancers.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Sep 29, 2009 6:33 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Unlike HSA,
who makes the sandwich, then takes it with her.
The fuck?
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
portslut was hungry
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 29, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Since I brought it to colin's attention
to credit you…
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
Do you guys really want the Olympics? WSJ (front page) reports "Nein!"
Mr. Daley, re-elected in 2007 with more than 71% of the vote, now has a career-low approval rating of 35%, according to a recent Chicago Tribune poll. In public meetings, citizens rail that he has become isolated, thin-skinned and autocratic. Only 47% of Chicagoans support hosting the Games.
Mr. Daley, asked about his falling approval ratings and concerns over cost overruns and corruption, shakes his head.
“You have to have vision,” the 67-year-old mayor said in an interview this month as he shuttled between appearances in the back seat of his black sedan. “You can’t start second-guessing yourself.”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125426642049150851.html#mod=todays_us_page_one
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
he's the teflon mayor, he's not going anywhere
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 30, 2009 7:28 AM CDT up reply actions
The Olympics will be his Pyramid,
his Mausoleum at Hallicarnassus. He’s left his imprint on this city already – look at a movie set in Chicago just before he took office like"Thief", and look at the city now. It’s been completely transformed.
Great rulers have always used grand public works projects to seal their immortality. My favorite line is Augustus, “I found Rome a city of brick and left it a city of marble” – and I think this really defines Daley, Jr (and Sr). No one ever accused thim of being personally corrupt, you won’t find any shoeboxes stuffed with cash in his closet when he dies. His intentions are good, but his methods are very Machiavellian. If bringing his visions to fruition entails corruption and copious amounts of public funds, so be it.
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The skyline sure looks different, just like his Dad.
Yeah, this would be the crowning achievement. Rightly so, and who’s to say it would be awful for the city? Atlanta seemed to do quite well after ’96.
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
seems to me
that the research has shown that the effect of an olympics is either negligible or positive. while i doubt the games are going to bring the $22.5 billion or whatever ridiculous number is cited, i also strongly doubt it will be a catastrophe (or even a net money loser in any respect). i frankly can’t say i care much whether chicago gets it or not.
I'm sure it'll be a money loser
but it definitely will further transform the city. I’m just curious to see what Chicago looks like when they’re all finished. Say what you want about Daley being a hardnosed politician, which he is, but he has quite the aesthetic eye.
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by ChicagoPete on Sep 30, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
i just hope public transit gets a face-lift through all of this
Beijing’s subway system is better than our el trains, would like to think we should be able to beat china in that. and compared to tokyo, well . . it doesn’t compare.
by soxshenanigans on Sep 30, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
you should live here - public transport is abysmal in Seattle
an absolute disgrace
:)
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
When I was working in Holland a few weeks ago
It made me very cross, seeing how fantastically they oragnise the transportation of the tax paying citizens around the country – and then comparing it to our pack of pigshit that passes for public transport here
the buses are driven by otters!
unreliable but adorable.
"ALL THESE WORLDS/ ARE YOURS EXCEPT/ EUROPA/ ATTEMPT NO
LANDING THERE/ USE THEM TOGETHER/ USE THEM IN PEACE"
And that's why shit like this happens.
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
wrong. both games hosted in the U.S. were profitable (as Larry alluded to)
also, the so-called ‘barcelona effect’ is likely to take effect in chicago (basically as a result of an ‘underrated’ city getting publicity on a world stage).
2009: Not with a bang but a whimper.
Ueberroth in '84 (in LA)
and Billy What’s-His-Face in Atlanta made sure they were profitable (I didn’t want to argue with folks above). However, Greece to a major bath. One thing we Americans can do is market and have sponsors pay thorugh the nose. I’ll bet there will be a lot of pork, so breaking even would be a nice thing. But the lasting impact, I believe, will be quite positive.
But only if people stop beating up nursing home residents there.
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
what fun would that be?
and really, out of all the candidates for beatings, nursing home resident beatings must have the least impact on society as a whole.
I think the Barcelona analogy is quite apt
Perceptions about Chicago are quite different overseas than they are in the US, I’d imagine there’d be a substantial boost in international tourism afterwards. Chicago always looks great on TV, especially in the summertime.
No animals were harmed during the making of this comment.
circuses but no bread.
"ALL THESE WORLDS/ ARE YOURS EXCEPT/ EUROPA/ ATTEMPT NO
LANDING THERE/ USE THEM TOGETHER/ USE THEM IN PEACE"
very true
Does anyone care if a few cronies got rich on rigged stonecutting contracts when Ramses was mayor of Thebes? Or tsk tsk because little Hatshepsut’s reading scores sucked?
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by ChicagoPete on Sep 30, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm
Does that make Daley Ramses II or Tutmoses III? Harold Washington is Ankhetaton?
Finally all those ancient history courses are gonna pay off!
"ALL THESE WORLDS/ ARE YOURS EXCEPT/ EUROPA/ ATTEMPT NO
LANDING THERE/ USE THEM TOGETHER/ USE THEM IN PEACE"
Not to mention all that time spent watching Mummy movies
“That ain’t King Rooten Tooten. That’s his wife Hotsy Totsy!”
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I want the olympics
the road cycling and mountain bike events would be in my backyard
how much for the Tyler Flowers rookie card?
"Mountain bike". "Chicago."
Do those go together?
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
they'll be in the unglaciated areas west of Madison
Blue Mounds/Mt Horeb. Not mountainous, but kinda hilly.
how much for the Tyler Flowers rookie card?
that area would work for the mountain events
but I understand they don’t have a road course that meets the elevation demands.
how much for the Tyler Flowers rookie card?
I want the Olympics too.
who cares if traffic will be extra bad that month, it would be great for the city. Its just too bad baseball isnt an Olympic sport anymore, although I think they are adding rugby which would be cool to see.
"And when I called him, and asked him to stand up for me, I know I shocked the shit out of him." - Michael Jordan, on choosing David Thompson as his Hall of Fame sponsor.
I think it would be great to shine a huge spotlight on the city for that few weeks.
Fixing up the CTA and transport infrastructure in preparation for the games just might be the greatest gift to the city.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Sep 30, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I rode blue mound this year -- tougher than I expected, though it was also May and I wasn
Twitter: @SouthSideCheat
SouthSideSox on Facebook
IMO, Blue Mound is the best singletrack in WI
i was on a team that did the 12 Hrs of Blue Mound in August. Barely lived through it.
Do you race? The WORS series up here is really well run.
how much for the Tyler Flowers rookie card?
No racing, just bragging
you can’t brag when you get beat ;)
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"If bringing his visions to fruition entails corruption and copious amounts of public funds, so be it."
nice closer
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 30, 2009 8:16 AM CDT reply actions
meant as reply to CP
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 30, 2009 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions
thank you
I thought a Nietzschean aphorism was called for. I’ll try and squeeze “This city ain’t ready for reform!” in somewhere else.
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Paddy Bauler, 42nd Ward Alderman (as I recall).
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
After the fire, the area was rebuilt by established residents as well as newcomers like sausage king Oscar Meyer. An infamous resident was longtime Alderman Paddy Bauler, whose headquarters was located in a bar on the corner of North Avenue and Sedgwick. An enormous man weighing 300 pounds, Ald. Bauler presided over an empire of graft and corruption that included liquor, payoffs and Gold Coast whorehouses for more than thirty-five years. His famous quote, “Chicago ain’t ready for reform,” apparently still echoes through City Hall today.
http://www.newcitychicago.com/chicago/4572.html
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
Should it?
What are your thoughts?
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
I answered.
Don’t be shy. You put it out there for a reason.
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 30, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
lost 2 mph from 2007 to 2009
yes his past couple of starts hurt the average a tiny bit, but that does not explain the drop.
Curve hasn't flattened out -
actually, the vertical movment is larger. Looks decent to me. Can’t throw it 100 MPH any more, so the average declines, perhaps.
I can’t see a big reason for worry, but I am not someone who interprets these figures in a systematic manner.
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 30, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
age?
is this a reasonable drop for a starter in the age range of 26-28?
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 30, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
i assume
i’m not suggesting he’s hurt. just wondering if “cy” peavy is a thing of the past.
i thought you were asking if there were factors 'other' than injury that could explain the drop, right?
i don’t know, i was just throwing age out there. but reading colin’s comment below, the data itself might not be reliable.
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 30, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
i'm not sure how good that data is
elsewhere on fangraphs, they show his fastball as fairly steady.
2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper
i read fangraphs for the articles
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 30, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
speaking of fangraphs
was looking at some of our bullpens #’s the other day and noticed that Tony Pena has a BABIP of .348 this year. unlucky like Q i guess.
my advice is that tony pena, a reliever, is not a good comp for carlos quentin
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 30, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
you can't fire me, i quit 2 months ago!
"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote
by SkanchoDanza on Sep 30, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Psycho hose beast.
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
come again?
"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote
by SkanchoDanza on Sep 30, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
always had the talent.
why i loved that deal. if he keeps that BB rate around 3 or less, he’ll be a stud. we’ll see.
i heard he's still managing the rest of the year?
what kind of shit is that?
I see that this entire comment is recommended. Call me old fashioned, but I'd like my recommendation to be more specific.
"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote
by SkanchoDanza on Sep 30, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
call me old fashioned
but i’ll stick with the bowling ball grip.
surely it should be called the bowler!
either way, i’m SHOCKED that this handy guide doesn’t include it.
Handy.
Iseewhatyoudidthere. Rec’d for usefulness.
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
Fun stat of the day!!!!
If Zack Greinke goes 4 innings in his next start, gives up 30 earned runs, & records negative 43 Ks, he’ll have the same stats as Sabathia.
This comes from Michael Schur aka Ken Tremendous of Fire Joe Morgan fame (yes, that website is surely a more noteworthy accomplishment than writer/producer for "The Office" and "Parks and Recreation"):
Two points that the likes of SI’s Jon Heyman would like me to note: He’ll still have less wins than Sabathia and he doesn’t play on a contender. These are the two more important measures of pitching dominance.
http://www.sbnation.com/2009/9/30/1061815/your-zack-greinke-is-super-human
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
That IS fun!
Love it.
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
was someone wearing 'fear' tee during children of the corn?
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 30, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I call bullshit!
You just checked in to see if the game thread was up yet.
;-)
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
He has two gt's to whine about today!
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Since there is no longer a thread to house her, here is my gratuitous Joan pic once again.
Because who doesn’t want to look at this?
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
The last episode was certainly lacking.
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
NOT READING NOT READING NOT READING LALALALALALA
thick sniffins!
"And when I called him, and asked him to stand up for me, I know I shocked the shit out of him." - Michael Jordan, on choosing David Thompson as his Hall of Fame sponsor.
TEH SPOILERZZZZZZZZZ
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
No spoilers here....she's still very active in the plotline, it's just that last week's episode didn't have her in it. Nor Sal, for example. No biggie.
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Mad Men.
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
This thread is FanPost worthy.
On Lookout Landing.
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
hmm. That must be a compliment.
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
ah. ive heard nothing but good things about that show
maybe ill get around to watching it in 5, maybe 6 years…. ugh swamped with tv shows!
lets go dodgers
im with ya
im 3/4 through the wire season 1 from 2003.
"And when I called him, and asked him to stand up for me, I know I shocked the shit out of him." - Michael Jordan, on choosing David Thompson as his Hall of Fame sponsor.
eh
The episodes always drag when they cut to deal with the women,
No animals were harmed during the making of this comment.
Seriously?? I think the episodes drag when they cut to deal with Don/Dick's past.
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Who removed the thread, and for what reason?
Hmmm…
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
Already been answered.
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
It was rhetorical.
The “pearls before swine” comment alerted me. Meaning, why repost the subject? Quit teasing us, YPOS.
;)
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
Didn't repost the subject, just the chick pic (just as any of you would post any number of chick pics in any given thread). I had written a lot more (but not too much!) in-depth to provoke a good discussion, as you are well aware.
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
i tried to read all those words
but then the Joan pic scrolled into view, and then sentences became blahblahblah
how much for the Tyler Flowers rookie card?
Understandably.
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Christina Hendricks
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
36-32-36
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks, no need to google now ;)
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 30, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I bet her thumbs are perfectly fine.
"ALL THESE WORLDS/ ARE YOURS EXCEPT/ EUROPA/ ATTEMPT NO
LANDING THERE/ USE THEM TOGETHER/ USE THEM IN PEACE"
And I bet about 100% of her is real. I'm totally gay for her.
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Wiki says she's a natural blonde.
And 2 of my ex-wives were naturally red-headed (and the 3rd dyed her hair to that color).
Present (and lasting) wife is brunette. Lesson learned.
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
Count them in the previous e-mail, BOK.
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
Good gawwwwwwwwwwd
she’s sexy
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Gangstarr
by Big Daddy Kool on Sep 30, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Pods7, Beckham5, KostayDH, Rios8, Fields3, Wise9, Flowers2, Nix4, Lillibridge6, Torres on the mound.
WHOAAA! Lookit the H-E-A-R-T of that lineup!
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Kiss'Em Goodbye: Chicago White Sox
Key stat: -24.5
That’s the combined VORP of White Sox center fielders, starting with that long-gone Opening Day platoon of DeWayne Wise and Brian Anderson, Scott Podsednik’s return engagement, all the way to “Blame It On” Rios. It’s also the second-worst single-position mark in any major league outfield, behind only the Mariners’ left fielders. For the sake of historical comparison, that unit-wide rate is worse than any single center fielder’s VORP of the last 50-plus seasons covered in the Retrosheet era, topping even Darren Lewis’ infamous 1999 season with the Red Sox (-24.1). Add in that Chicago’s right and left fielders weren’t exactly tearing up the league, and the White Sox outfield ranked 29th in production via MLVr, ahead of only Kansas City. When you’re not getting runs from your outfield, you’re going to have a hard time contending for anything but KC-style ignominy.
It needs to be noted, though, that the White Sox put up a .518 team Support-Neutral Winning Percentage, which ranked second in the American League. This suggests that White Sox starting pitching was doing its job better than all four playoff teams’ rotations in the junior circuit. While pitching might be whatever percentage of baseball suits your aphorism of choice, you don’t win if you don’t score.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=9599
i believe you can get this if you’re an espn insider, too.
huh?
Once again, the White Sox will probably go into next season as the AL Central’s best team, on paper.
Does that mean BP is gonna pick the Sox to win the Central next year, seeing as evaluating teams ‘on paper’ is what they do? Oh, and apparently we were the best team last year but they picked us to finish 4th, out of spite presumably.
2009: Not with a bang but a whimper.
saying "BP" picked something is like saying "ESPN" picked something.
they’re not a monolithic entity. amazingly, their writers even have names! and use the pronoun “I” when describing their opinions.
So our OF sucks.
Historically sucks. Nice. I like history. When can we start revising it?
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
don't know about historically, el caballo and maggs were bright spots for me
but vorp doesn’t take fielding into account, right?
i'm alex rios' last fan
by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 30, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
he means that we are historically bad this year
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
oh...party on then
i'm alex rios' last fan
by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 30, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
How's the wrist?
Does it affect your self, ahem, gratification? Or anyone else’s?
;)
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
doesn't really affect either of those
it’s doing a lot better. i’m heading back north friday to have a hand/wrist/arm specialist take a look at it and see if the provena down here completely fucked me over. there’s no pain really, just not full function which is pretty frustrating.
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
Kind of important for your future career.
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
very
i’ll let you know in december when i hear about the apps
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
good thing you're not working next year.
i hear it takes a full year to get back to 100%. unless, of course, you stretch.
3 sets of 15 Shockers, followed by 3 sets of 15 Rockers; 2 sets of 10 Show Stoppers twice every other day for 3 months.
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you offering him PT?
;)
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
I meant this year's OF is making "suck" history.
Sorry if I was unclear.
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
it's go time opos
i'm alex rios' last fan
by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 30, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
it's go time opos
i'm alex rios' last fan
by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 30, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
It's opos time go
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Sep 30, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
no fielding.
use WAR, if you like, to add in position and fielding. i don’t think the result is much different. and if you want to just look at a team’s inability to score – which was the primary issue for the sox this year – VORP does a decent job.
"which was the primary issue for the sox this year – VORP does a decent job."
yep
i'm alex rios' last fan
by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 30, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
What...our outfield never happened!
if it did it was closer to half a million.
"ALL THESE WORLDS/ ARE YOURS EXCEPT/ EUROPA/ ATTEMPT NO
LANDING THERE/ USE THEM TOGETHER/ USE THEM IN PEACE"
We're better off with General Soreness on patrol!
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously larry, now I'm wondering.... What was '08's combined CF VORP?
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
don't know offhand.
but all the players who played the position extensively (swisher, griffey and anderson) were essentially replacement level or slightly above according to VORP so it was probably just above zero.
I thought you might have a link to find it...but even if those players are above replacement, or hovering around replacement level, doesn't necessarily mean that they contributed much to the '08 Sox, right?
Just to give it a glance, I compared RBIs when playing CF for the main CFers, from both years. I’m aware there is more to VORP, but I just wanted an idea of how much worse our CF was this year in terms of RBIs alone.
2008
Swisher (70 games in CF) – 30 RBI
BA (57 games in CF) – 21 RBI
KGJ (32 games in CF) – 13 RBI
Wise (19 games in CF) – 6 RBI
Total – 70 RBI
2009
BA (54 games in CF) – 9 RBI
Pods (47 games in CF) – 18 RBI
Rios (35 games in CF) – 6 RBI
Wise (25 games in CF) – 4 RBI
Total – 37 RBI
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice swing, HSA.
Aggressiveness is a good thing. Rec’d.
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
RsBI.
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Is it a problem to look at the stat that highlights the amount of runs a player bats in?
Is RBI considered passe?
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Well excuuuuuuse me. I do realize the imperfection of that statistic (ie; it relies on other players to be on base)....but that is still an measure of runs produced, non? Albeit elementary?
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
it's a terribly imprecise measure.
you could have chosen about five other easily found stats and done much better. see link below, graph about 2/3 way down regarding correlation to runs created estimation. it’s older and likely needs some updating but it’s albeit elementary.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/ops-for-the-masses/
Come on, that was a layup critique.
Give her a free pass for posting numbers. She’s trying.
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
that's nice.
if were to see someone citing RBI on a front page post on this site, i would delete it.
Let's see OPS then - perhaps less quaint.
2008
Swisher – .802
BA – .668
KGJ – .716
Wise – .826
AVG – .753
2009
BA – .587
Pods – .766
Rios – .456
Wise – .552
AVG – .590
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I can do dat.
2008 (with PA)
Swisher – .802 (268)
BA – .668 (170)
KGJ – .716 (118)
Wise – .826 (64)
AVG CF OPS – .753 (in 620 PA)
2009 (with PA)
BA – .587 (191)
Pods – .766 (197)
Rios – .456 (141)
Wise – .552 (85)
AVG CF OPS – .590 (in 614 PA)
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
that's not right.
you can’t just average the four numbers because they’re not all in the same number of plate appearances.
DAMMIT!!!! I HATE YOU, STATS!!!!
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm going back to my womanly intuition and right side of my brain.
We fucking sucked this year.
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Especially the OF.
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
Especially our combined shitty CF.
….numbers and such…..
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
future reference:
weighted avg = .802(268/620) + .668(170/620) + .716(118/620) + .826(64/620)
2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper
Thank you, most helpful.
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I always knew...
Ah, fuck it.
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
Better.
(I’d accept larry’s reference as positive feedback and move on.)
;)
So you think Zambrano has more value than Peavy? You are an idiot.
by mick10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
I was already compiling OPS before larry's link. And obviously, I'm not going to be front-paging any of my own stat analyses.
no. fucking. DUHHH, larry.
This place would be so boring if I did that too! :P
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
"The older I get, the more I admire and crave competence, just simple competence, in any field from adultery to zoology."
Mencken.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
"I hate sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
Mencken
:)
Fuck it, Dude... Let's go bowling.
by homesickalien on Sep 30, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
i think the jumping turtle
would have been an improvement.
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