The King of Swing
AJ Pierzynski is having his best season since he's played for the White Sox and one of the best of his career. His wOBA and OPS are the best of his White Sox career. Much of this value is secondary to his (tied for) career high batting average. Why?
Well yes part of it is luck. His BABIP is .321, his xBABIP is .306 using the THT xBABIP calculator and his career BABIP is .307. But the more interesting component of his season is that in addition to having a higher % of his batted balls fall for hits he is also putting a higher % of balls into play.
While his BB% has remained similar to career levels his K% is at its lowest rate since his one NL season, and the 2nd lowest of his career. How has he done it?
Well he hasn't done it by being more selective. AJ is currently the triple crown leader of Swinging. He leads the AL in total % of pitches swung at, % of pitches swung at in the strike zone, and % of pitches swung at outside the strike zone (amongst qualified batters). While impressive (in a wow that's interesting sort of way), this is not particularly surprising as he ranked in the top 3 in each of these categories in other years and the top 5 every year he has been with the Sox.
What he has done differently is make contact: His out-of-zone, in zone and total contact rates are all career highs. He actually ranks 15th (out of 74 qualified batters) in the AL in Contact%, making contact with 88.6% of pitches he swings at. I wonder if anyone has ever "won" the Swinging Triple Crown and still ranked in the top 15 contact hitters in the league. Whether this is a repeatabe skill or not will be worth watching next year.
So some luck and some increased contact rates have led to an amazing season by Anthony John Pierzynski.
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Really nice post, bhoov, thanks. I also recall that he has been ridiculously consistent throughout his career.
I love AJ. He is one helluva unique player.
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by homesickalien on Sep 3, 2009 12:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great job, Doc.
TY. And welcome back to the mainstream. Your research has been missed.
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by winningugly on Sep 3, 2009 12:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I noticed this about a month ago. Got a minute to write it up. Although I new that AJ was a free swinger, I didn’t have an image of someone like a Vlad Guerrero (who would lead the league again if he qualified) or Jeff Francoeur swing at everything type player. I wonder if that is because he makes more contact than those guys.
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by bhoov on Sep 3, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know who's a free swinger?
carlos quentin. although his 1st pitch swing % is down to 43% for the season, before his injury it was up near 47%, which is vlad territory. i’d be interested to see a Q/AJ comparison.
hey rios, you need to cinch it up, hunker down, bow your neck, bristle up, and be any kind of hitter. you're making me look like an idiot.
by BuehrleMan on Sep 3, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, I just noticed your avatar.
Will you change it once Disney owns it? Or are you agnostic in your opinion?
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by winningugly on Sep 3, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
naah
Don’t really care who owns Marvel at this point. more of a tribute to my comic book collecting childhood. Wolverine was my favorite character. But I haven’t read a comic book in prob 20 years (except watchmen). Doubt it will have much effect on the movies which are pretty mainstream anyway.That reminds me, I need to rent that Wolverine DVD.
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by bhoov on Sep 3, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he better play well considering he clealry has the worst contract on the team.
by larry on Sep 3, 2009 12:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So do you think he's lucky or is somehow improving? Per you last year:
i wouldn’t use his career average BABIP
most of that is built up from early in his career when, as noted repeatedly, he was a different kind of hitter. i’d lean more towards him being lucky. or, at the very least, not draw any conclusion from it.
by larry on May 16, 2008 1:51 PM EDT
As much as certain folks on the site hate on AJ I do think he’s at least aged better than PK, JD, etc.
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by winningugly on Sep 3, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's certainly interesting.
as pointed out, luck is part of it. i don’t really know what to make of the contact rates.
by larry on Sep 3, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, thats interesting
He leads the AL in total % of pitches swung at, % of pitches swung at in the strike zone, and % of pitches swung at outside the strike zone (amongst qualified batters).
Where did you get this info?
Asked about his thoughts on the weekend, White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said simply, "Well, we came to New York and visited the new Yankee Stadium. It is a very nice ballpark. We also stayed at a very nice hotel. That's all I can really say about these past three days."
by e-gus on Sep 3, 2009 12:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought this was a Count Basie thread.
Sorry.
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."
— Leo Durocher
by Chiburb on Sep 3, 2009 1:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Benny Goodman, OPOS. Benny Goodman.
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by winningugly on Sep 3, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look, kid. Benny Goodman IS the correct answer for WU's generation.
While also “getting up there”, Basie was the swingingest cat in music when I was coming up. Listen to his band with Sinatra or Ella and tell me some clarinest can hold a candle to him.
Maybe there are youtubes you can watch?
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by Chiburb on Sep 3, 2009 5:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
um...
jimmy rushing and joe williams were basie’s boys. but goodman was technically the “king of swing.” but you’re right, basie’s band would smoke goodman’s head to head.
by Hatchetm on Sep 3, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can such an intlelligent man have fucked up his user name so badly?
;-)
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by Chiburb on Sep 3, 2009 7:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Intelligent. Damn phone.
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— Leo Durocher
by Chiburb on Sep 3, 2009 7:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
LOL.
How perfect. How perfect.
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by winningugly on Sep 3, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
twas.
Today was a nice day to be out for a walk, look through the window of a restaurant at 2:30, and discover that the Sox started at noon.
by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mlb trade rumors came out with an article with the worst contracts in mlb before the season
AJ was on that list, yet scott “suck” linebrink’s incredibly shitty contract was not on it.
by 23chisox14 on Sep 3, 2009 4:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
was bradley's or soriano's?
we are gonna skullfuck this guy - thecip
by BoeJouma on Sep 3, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
soriano's was i dont remember if bradleys was cause at the time it didnt seem as bad
by 23chisox14 on Sep 3, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looked bad from the beggining to me.
Paying a guy who has had one full season over 9 seasons after hitting career highs and turning 31 aint bright.
The Boogeyman cometh
by omnipotent grab on Sep 3, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of that site, this appears today:
Rosenthal learned that Jermaine Dye had the right to convert his $12MM mutual option into a player option if traded. That was probably one of several reasons the Giants did not pursue him. We learned from Stark that the White Sox “wanted something good” for Dye.
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by winningugly on Sep 3, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
alderson was already gone
wouldahadto settle for Baumgarner
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by The Cheat on Sep 3, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lincecum's pubes are worth more than Dye
Love the guy, but c’mon!
by stuartscottslefteye on Sep 3, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dye is worth at least Lincecum + Cain
by Carbiner on Sep 3, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+ J. Sanchez and a 6 ft sammich to lure Colon back so he can clean out his locker.
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by jc2313 on Sep 4, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lincecum has those? Are you sure?
Screw you, monkeyboy, Imma goin Home!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Sep 4, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
clubhouse seems pretty rouwdy during wise's interview.
we are gonna skullfuck this guy - thecip
by BoeJouma on Sep 3, 2009 4:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
good stuff.
i made note about a month ago that AJ was swinging at the first pitch much less frequently than his career average, (43% for his career, only 33% this year, by far the lowest of his career), so in that sense he is being more selective. his P/PA is right in line with his career average however. perhaps he is getting into better counts? he has already seen 2 more 3-0 counts this year than he did last year.
hey rios, you need to cinch it up, hunker down, bow your neck, bristle up, and be any kind of hitter. you're making me look like an idiot.
by BuehrleMan on Sep 3, 2009 4:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OT - Salt in the wound

"One more game and then we can blow this son of a b@#$* up!" - Hawk Harrelson on his thoughts regarding the Metrodome
by tailgater on Sep 3, 2009 5:26 PM CDT reply actions 7 recs
And then they comforted each other in manly ways.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."
— Leo Durocher
by Chiburb on Sep 3, 2009 5:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Hunting? Fishing? Bowling? Drinking Miller High Life?
All manly pursuits. Plus, they are good, clean ways to take your mind off of bad news.
by 67WMAQ on Sep 3, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More along the lines of oil each other down and wrestling.
The Boogeyman cometh
by omnipotent grab on Sep 3, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
veni vidi vici
“lets rastle!”
Don't quote me
by Moral Narcissist on Sep 4, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Video Highlights
Did anyone notice that on the official White Sox web site, the video highlights of today’s game are taken from the cubs broadcast.? Is our official site on the side of the Cubs? After all Hawk and Stoney broadcast today’s game on comcast. Why wasn’t their broadcast used on OUR website for today’s highlights?
by Alan Snipes on Sep 3, 2009 6:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if this is accurate, but don't MLB highlights just use the broadcast team from the home team?
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Sep 3, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is true on my MLB phone app.
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."
— Leo Durocher
by Chiburb on Sep 3, 2009 7:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Although, I agree listening to Kaspar and Bob "I hope they don't Steve Stone me" Brenly is a chore
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by Ozzie Montana on Sep 3, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
brenly, to his credit, had a good one today
after soriano butchered that ball in left he said,“nothing surprises me anymore.”
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by BuehrleMan on Sep 3, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
although did anyone hear farmio's call on that play. it was gold.
as the play was happening he said something like… “and hopping man runs over”… then after the play theorized that he missed the ball because he didn’t get to do his hop, which is what i thought at the time as well.
hey rios, you need to cinch it up, hunker down, bow your neck, bristle up, and be any kind of hitter. you're making me look like an idiot.
by BuehrleMan on Sep 3, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe he referred to Soriano
as ‘the jumping man’
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Sep 3, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, that's it.
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by BuehrleMan on Sep 3, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Farmio went off on Alexi as well
something about he doesn’t understand where the piss poor defense against lefties is coming from
by 815Sox on Sep 4, 2009 2:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brenly absolutely ripped
“Fonzie” for the error in the 8th. Great to hear and dead on accurate. Even the Cubs bullpen were visibly disgusted at that play.
I caught the end of the game on the radio. Santo repeatedly claimed AJ “hooked” Theriot on his double play breakup slide in the 9th. Ronny: don’t blame AJ for your pitcher’s piss-poor throw to second.
"The next fu#&@ng person that walks across this stage is going to get fu#&ng killed, aright?"
by thekever on Sep 3, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Santo needs to get over it
AJ played it right and slid to break it up. whining scrub
WHAT I WANT IS FOR SOMEONE TO BE UNDERSTANDING OR SHUT UP BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO PLACE.
by pierzynskirules on Sep 3, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Santo's the Cubs' answer to Hawk -
in that neither will criticize any mistake their team makes until after the 100th-or-so time it’s happened or give the opponent any credit unless it’s glaringly obvious that the Cubs or Sox got their collective asses handed to them in a particular game or series. Even two homers on these guys’ level have sounded uncharacteristically and increasingly exasperated by their teams’ poor defensive play, and it’s been good to hear, IMHO. We don’t need sunshine blown up our asses – weer smart peeple.
by stuartscottslefteye on Sep 4, 2009 5:45 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
i hope that last sentence is intentional
if not even more funny
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on Sep 4, 2009 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hawk has all his limbs, so Santo is still worse.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Sep 4, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hawk has YAZ, Santo has himself.
"ALL THESE WORLDS/ ARE YOURS EXCEPT/ EUROPA/ ATTEMPT NO
LANDING THERE/ USE THEM TOGETHER/ USE THEM IN PEACE"
by thecip on Sep 4, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ernie! Let's play two!
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Santo sucks
But he is better than Darrin Jackson. How pathetic is that?
"The next fu#&@ng person that walks across this stage is going to get fu#&ng killed, aright?"
by thekever on Sep 4, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DJ Rules
I have graphs and charts to prove this.
"ALL THESE WORLDS/ ARE YOURS EXCEPT/ EUROPA/ ATTEMPT NO
LANDING THERE/ USE THEM TOGETHER/ USE THEM IN PEACE"
by thecip on Sep 4, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
proof

Also, top amusement park scientists have determined that, while Santo is one flag, DJ is a full six flags.
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by thecip on Sep 4, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Six Flags went Chapter 11.
Other than that, nice pie chart.
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those who saw the game, how did Torres look?
Just like his stats showed?
by Ahillock on Sep 3, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i said this in the game thread too
but i thought he looked very good. made some mistakes, but luckily it was the cubs.
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by BuehrleMan on Sep 3, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good enough to be back end starter in the future?
by Ahillock on Sep 3, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if every game is against the cubs, then yes.
but seriously, i don’t know. he just looked good though.
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by BuehrleMan on Sep 3, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his splitter was nasty all day
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by e-gus on Sep 4, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Football
Usually this board is good for a solid 100 comments or so a night, even when the Sox have an off night or day game, but tonight the internets are silent. Porque? Football season is upon us. Thank God.
Go Irish
by djta on Sep 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Go Irish?
That’s a shame..
by Grinder in Training on Sep 4, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The nice thing about being so far out of it
Is you can just relax and enjoy the games.
Cubs handed this one to us.
fucking dome
by vince_ on Sep 3, 2009 11:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i like based balls moar when we win.
we are gonna skullfuck this guy - thecip
by BoeJouma on Sep 3, 2009 11:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
3 of 4 or 4 of 4 from the red sox
and I am back to being ALL IN like Chris Moneymaker.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 3, 2009 11:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hoyt "i caww" corkins
we are gonna skullfuck this guy - thecip
by BoeJouma on Sep 4, 2009 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least you are consistent.
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 7:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wasn't he considered one of the biggest fluke main event winners ever?
i heard he couldn’t play poker for shit for years after that. was (is) considered a joke among pros.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Sep 4, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you mean, beyond his surname?
…I did not know that
Don't quote me
by Moral Narcissist on Sep 4, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
KenWo is the new Simmons
Referencing irrelevent pop culture tidbits that everyone else forgot about.
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by Ozzie Montana on Sep 4, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if so, i'd like to be considered a joke among pros.
by larry on Sep 4, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
in the meantime, would you settle for being considered a joke among amateurs?
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Sep 5, 2009 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well if we won...wouldn't we kind of be considered a joke among playoff teams?
until we sweep the whole fuckin thing ;)
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 4, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WSOP is too popular so the "pros" rarely win the main event anymore since
There’s obviously a substantial amount of luck involved and there’s less than 50 recognizable good players amongst the masses of random people.
by Carbiner on Sep 5, 2009 6:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PK makes a funny
’’Walk’s been here for a while now, and to me, it’s hard to pin something on a coach,‘’ Konerko said Wednesday in defending Walker. ’’We have a good game or a good week, we joke, ‘Well, I guess Walk’s a good hitting coach again.’ It’s safe to say that it’s not the hitting coach’s fault.’’
by 67WMAQ on Sep 4, 2009 6:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes when I watch Beckham at the plate, I have moments where I feel like Maria in West Side Story...at the end where the cops show up and she throws herself on Tony's lifeless body and screams,
“DON’T YOU TOUCH HIM!!!!!!!!!”
That’s me, to Walker.
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by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah - but they're both Georgia people
They’re probably BFF’s. The Peach State mafia sticks together.
by 67WMAQ on Sep 4, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DON'T YOU TOUCH HIM!!!!
And have a bless day.
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by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't have to worry about me touching either party.
Never met Gordon Beckham. Saw Greg Walker at the game used equipment sale at SoxFest in 2008. He is very tall. Said hi. Did not touch.
by 67WMAQ on Sep 4, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha. I'm not particularly worried about you touching him. I'm still yelling at Walker.
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by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am digging you a little more each post, Rifleman.
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had to look that up.
Nice.
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its a funny book, full of all sorts of bullshit
Tennis Coach made us buy/read it and called it “The Bible”
by Carbiner on Sep 4, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good reference. i'm sure you really hit the nail on the head for all of us straight guys on here with that story.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Sep 4, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Straight guys?
I thought south side meant . . . oh, I get it . . . see you guys later!
Would you please put some pants on? I feel weird having to ask you twice.
by jc2313 on Sep 4, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you're a Jet you're a Jet all the way!
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're welcome. Think of how boring this place would be without this here estrogen.
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by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
then I guess its been about 3 weeks
since he was a good hitting coach.
My alien is homesick
by Nordhagen on Sep 4, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
keith law sez ozzie could get fired..
he apparently said this on WSCR last night.
by Hatchetm on Sep 4, 2009 7:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Keith Law. Still right on my Top 10 list.
Of DB’s.
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does he know that Ozzie is under contract through 2012?
An extension he got during a season that was worse than this one.
by 67WMAQ on Sep 4, 2009 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jim would disagree:
It won’t make up for what has been a disappointing performance, by and large, but it was great to see Ozzie Guillen remind us why he earned a contract that will keep him around through 2012.
Reason(s) here:
http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/2009/09/04/torres-passes-trust-test/#more-474
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."
— Leo Durocher
by Chiburb on Sep 4, 2009 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone that thinks ozzie is a bad manager
has never actually seen a bad manager.
by Hatchetm on Sep 4, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt
He may not be the best manager in baseball, but compared to what we could have out there I feel pretty good about him.
by Grinder in Training on Sep 4, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of that, I see Troy Hillman is being brought back next year.
Tell me prayer doesn’t work.
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is he realted to trey?
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Sep 4, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is realted realted to related?
hate it when that happens
by EddyStanky'sGhost on Sep 4, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is related to Deuce.
Go deliever a fatted calf, already.
;)
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is deliever related to deliver?
It’s supper time… and deliver is greasy.
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."
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by Chiburb on Sep 4, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You caught that one, Scoop.
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that a sublime reference?
well done, old man. you are okay by me.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Sep 4, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then my work here is done.
Have a great (long) weekend!
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."
— Leo Durocher
by Chiburb on Sep 4, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
first association is sublime, eh?
a few people have covered ‘summertime’.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Sep 4, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chiburb was referencing the Miles Davis version.
;)
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by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
(which I don't see on that wiki list)
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by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
Am I supposed to feel bad when I first think Porgy and Bess?
Don't quote me
by Moral Narcissist on Sep 4, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only if you have not accepted your alternative lifestyle.
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My related realtor delivered de liver for dinner.
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by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's a helluva lot of wordplay
I’m sure I would enjoy your vaudeville act
My alien is homesick
by Nordhagen on Sep 4, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know..
If the “fire everybody” thing that fans do at the end of a disappointing season is just a Chicago thing or does every city do the same thing?
Any time a team does bad people call for the entire staffs collective head.
by 815Sox on Sep 4, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, a manager on a team with high expectations could be fired
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Sep 4, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that ozzie's been perfect this season
I don’t think you can pin this season on him, firing him would be stupid.
fucking dome
by vince_ on Sep 4, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only manager who cannot be blamed and could perhaps even be praised for failing
is Jerry Manuel
by Carbiner on Sep 4, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even the Mets alumni are having a rough year:
http://cbs2chicago.com/sports/jerry.koosman.tax.2.1164356.html
And Donn Clenndennnnonnn died earlier this year. And Fred Wilpon lost a bundle in the Madoff Ponzi scheme. Tough year to be a Mets fan.
BWAHAHAHA!
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you rev up your imaginary motorcycle
when saying clenendenonononononon….ononon?
by Hatchetm on Sep 4, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could get fired since about June 2006.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Sep 4, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you hear the segment?
can’t find it online and I didn’t think ESPN employees could go on non-ESPN programs.
by Off the bus running on Sep 4, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Write up on Hudson in THT daily
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Time out Greenbay. Tell that fucking bullshit to the tourists
by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 4, 2009 10:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"If the White Sox are smart..."
“…because, you know, they have no idea how to keep young pitchers healthy.”
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Sep 4, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha...nice little nugget there
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Time out Greenbay. Tell that fucking bullshit to the tourists
by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 4, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice post
I noticed in Spring Training his miniscule SO rate (2 in 60 ab’s) and just chalked it up to the obvious SSS. But, in some ways, that has carried over to the regular season . . . will be interesting to see if it has any carryover to next year.
Would you please put some pants on? I feel weird having to ask you twice.
by jc2313 on Sep 4, 2009 10:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Too bad these types of stats weren't kept when Nellie Fox played.
He struck out 216 times in his career of over 10,000 PA’s. Choked up on that jug-handled bat about 6" with 2 strikes on him and wore a pitcher out.
by mick10 on Sep 4, 2009 11:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
(Coughs repeatedly, soils self.)
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do that a lot too.
Getting old sucks.
"One more game and then we can blow this son of a b@#$* up!" - Hawk Harrelson on his thoughts regarding the Metrodome
by tailgater on Sep 4, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't get a chance to see the video of Soriano's error
until late last night.
I gotta say, that is one of the funniest damn things I have ever seen on a ballfield. And Stoney’s comments on the replay were just precious. Sorry if it’s a repeat…
“And that’s what you get when a DH is playing left field. Then he turns to look where the runners are, and then he’s not in much of a hurry to get to the ball.”
"One more game and then we can blow this son of a b@#$* up!" - Hawk Harrelson on his thoughts regarding the Metrodome
by tailgater on Sep 4, 2009 11:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it was funny
how he just jogged over to it whilst they were all booing him
by hoodlight on Sep 4, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice info
Miss your stuff Bhoov. Hell I miss mindless agruments on SSS. Having a job- OVERRATED
"Oh well back to work"
by Tdogg on Sep 4, 2009 12:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Feeding your family: Priceless.
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
unfortunately it really will be one only
The misses and I are splitsville. Eating me up with my kids. Alas I really do miss mindless arguments because they give me escape. (que the violin…..)
"Oh well back to work"
by Tdogg on Sep 4, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not great consolation, but we're here whenever you want to start shit (as long as it's mindless).
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by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm always here to race-bait you.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Sep 4, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn.
You know it’s OK to shake a beeyatch. No choking, though.
Sorry to hear it. Having been through one or three I can say with a great deal of confidence you’ll be OK. Other than the PPB bet you seem to be a caring, resilient, and rational human being.
(And if this is, in any way, an attempt to weasel out of my PP, I will be on your doorstep in 2 hours.)
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A wise man once told me after a break up I took hard:
Go out and stand on the corner, another one will come along.
Asked about his thoughts on the weekend, White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said simply, "Well, we came to New York and visited the new Yankee Stadium. It is a very nice ballpark. We also stayed at a very nice hotel. That's all I can really say about these past three days."
by e-gus on Sep 4, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry to hear that Tdogg
THANK YOU NATE SILVER, TECHNOLOGY IS THE TOPS
by Hazymania on Sep 5, 2009 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so it's not true about going black and then ceasing to return?
what? am i gonna start making serious comments at this point in my life?
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Sep 5, 2009 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, Tdogg. Sorry to read this. I wish you the best.
...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT
by rhythm on Sep 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Tdogg
Yeah increased workload has made these kind of posts few and far between. But since I was given the frontpage honor maybe I’ll try a little more often! Or was this more of a “we need a posting placeholder, that bhoov post wasn’t bad…….” thing?
Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of.
by bhoov on Sep 4, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No I definitely hope you write more and get front paged...
"Oh well back to work"
by Tdogg on Sep 4, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hsa, kenwo and wtgtd have all been front-paged. i'm not saying. i'm just saying.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Sep 5, 2009 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
relax!
I should be front paged more often! Its better than U-God for christ sake
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 5, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Captialize Christ, blasphemer!
...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT
by rhythm on Sep 8, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did anyone see Pedro last night?
looked to have some great stuff
by hoodlight on Sep 4, 2009 12:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
From fangraphs:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/pedro-showing-off
I’d say he’s been the real deal since being signed.
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a big fan of pedro
do you think kw went for him before we ended up with one pitch AWOL fat guts?
I know he turned a few teams down, did he want loads of cash? I remember him being mentioned as a possible target on here
by hoodlight on Sep 4, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he wanted 5 million
i have a feeling KW inquired about him, but too many ?’s to warrant that much money
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on Sep 4, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beat Timmy (1BB, 11K, 4H) 2-1....ouch. Giants lost a series in which they only gave up 3 runs over the 3 games. That hurts.
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by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Timmy"?
Is this a Giants blog? Fer Chrissakes, we are not on a first-name basis with him, nor have pet names. “Freak” is acceptable.
“Timmy”?
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I very much enjoy The Freak and would be happy to have him in our uni someday. I'm certain I call him Timmy because my office friend is a Giants fan and I hear alllll about their trials and tribulations and that's how he refers to him.
I am unapologetic.
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by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Surprise, surprise.
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
theres a lot of man-crushes for him in Seattle since he grew up there.
my brother-in-laws roommate is the same way due to the fact they played little league together.
Asked about his thoughts on the weekend, White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said simply, "Well, we came to New York and visited the new Yankee Stadium. It is a very nice ballpark. We also stayed at a very nice hotel. That's all I can really say about these past three days."
by e-gus on Sep 4, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
seatlle, huh.
and your brother-in-law’s “roommate”. when are you guys going to stop covering for him or avoiding the truth? he likes it in the ass. there are worse things in life.
by larry on Sep 4, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you know there are worse things?
by mick10 on Sep 4, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just that one.
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by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was black?
Can’t remember.
by Carbiner on Sep 4, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you implying that all child molesters are black? You racist fuck.

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by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
He could've been white! Maybe he was black and turned white over time.
Awesome image though, rec’d.
by Carbiner on Sep 4, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so google is artificially intelligent?
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Sep 5, 2009 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so its official.
your truly will in fact be throwing out the first pitch 9/9/9 vs Oakland.
All four guest get to go on the field, then eat and drink for free in the Jim Beam club.
Oh and we get an autographed Mark Buehrle jersey.
AWESOME!
Ive been working on a slider.
I cant fucking wait.
Asked about his thoughts on the weekend, White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said simply, "Well, we came to New York and visited the new Yankee Stadium. It is a very nice ballpark. We also stayed at a very nice hotel. That's all I can really say about these past three days."
by e-gus on Sep 4, 2009 12:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
needs more S
we are gonna skullfuck this guy - thecip
by BoeJouma on Sep 4, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How'd you get this gig?
And an autographed MB jersey too? You clearly don’t deserve these nice things.
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by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone deserve a signed jersey from MB?
by Grinder in Training on Sep 4, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Possibly at least a couple of us.
:)
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by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just now realized this posted twice
hoodies comment didnt even tip me off.
lol
Asked about his thoughts on the weekend, White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said simply, "Well, we came to New York and visited the new Yankee Stadium. It is a very nice ballpark. We also stayed at a very nice hotel. That's all I can really say about these past three days."
by e-gus on Sep 4, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well....you are slow.
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by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its my modem
has been fucking up for a month
Asked about his thoughts on the weekend, White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said simply, "Well, we came to New York and visited the new Yankee Stadium. It is a very nice ballpark. We also stayed at a very nice hotel. That's all I can really say about these past three days."
by e-gus on Sep 4, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no.
but you can come to my house and look at mine. you probably are deserving enough to look at one.
by larry on Sep 4, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His wife won a drawing. And he now has cloaking powers.
And is now deserving of a visit to larry’s home. All for winning a drawing.
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i said nothing about e-gus being deserving of anything.
by larry on Sep 4, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, my bad.
GIT. I would like the transcript of any conversation regarding drunk driving laws.
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just don't bounce it.
And don’t think about bouncing it.
And don’t think about 28,000 fans watching you trying not to bounce it.
Otherwise, have a great time!
"One more game and then we can blow this son of a b@#$* up!" - Hawk Harrelson on his thoughts regarding the Metrodome
by tailgater on Sep 4, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if you gotta bounce it, bounce it off of Pods' head.
/unnecessary, yet obligatory Pod-hatred post for today
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by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
28000 fans?
22000 max.
"ALL THESE WORLDS/ ARE YOURS EXCEPT/ EUROPA/ ATTEMPT NO
LANDING THERE/ USE THEM TOGETHER/ USE THEM IN PEACE"
by thecip on Sep 4, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Linebroke! Linebroke!
Whiplash reaction! Do it!
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Sep 4, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahhaha yes!
"ALL THESE WORLDS/ ARE YOURS EXCEPT/ EUROPA/ ATTEMPT NO
LANDING THERE/ USE THEM TOGETHER/ USE THEM IN PEACE"
by thecip on Sep 4, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats awesome.
I hope to go to that game just so i can boo your ass for not inviting me along you dirty son of a bitch!
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 4, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ECW superstar Tommy Dreamer is also throwing out the first pitch that evening

Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 5, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so its official.
your truly will in fact be throwing out the first pitch 9/9/9 vs Oakland.
All four guest get to go on the field, then eat and drink for free in the Jim Beam club.
Oh and we get an autographed Mark Buehrle jersey.
AWESOME!
Ive been working on a slider.
I cant fucking wait.
Asked about his thoughts on the weekend, White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said simply, "Well, we came to New York and visited the new Yankee Stadium. It is a very nice ballpark. We also stayed at a very nice hotel. That's all I can really say about these past three days."
by e-gus on Sep 4, 2009 12:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
but now its official
before i was waiting for the rug to be pulled out from under me.
Asked about his thoughts on the weekend, White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said simply, "Well, we came to New York and visited the new Yankee Stadium. It is a very nice ballpark. We also stayed at a very nice hotel. That's all I can really say about these past three days."
by e-gus on Sep 4, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jim Beam take the Mound contest
completely random drawing the lovely wife won.
And no, I probably dont deserve these things.
It may be karma though, since I have probably spent $1000 on Beam and Cokes this season at the bullpen bar.
Asked about his thoughts on the weekend, White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said simply, "Well, we came to New York and visited the new Yankee Stadium. It is a very nice ballpark. We also stayed at a very nice hotel. That's all I can really say about these past three days."
by e-gus on Sep 4, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frank?
concensus is it will happen, but when? will it be just the one game or maybe 3 or 4.
i’d love to see that, bet that will fill up the stadium.
by hoodlight on Sep 4, 2009 12:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Serious question.
Have you ever gotten to see footage of Big Frank play?
I know you are relatively new to the game and I don’t want to assume you had access to feeds in the 90’s, but I’m wondering if you’ve sought archived vids or anything.
He was sumpthin’ special.
Today was a nice day to be out for a walk, look through the window of a restaurant at 2:30, and discover that the Sox started at noon.
by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
consensus being who? sss folks pining or actual media leaks?
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Sep 4, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm part of the concensus
let’s face it, we aint going to the playoffs, not gonna happen – fill the stadium for the last few home games – get him in
by hoodlight on Sep 4, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its Gonna Happen!
assuming Detroit finishes .500, we only have to go like 21-6. And since we’ve outscored opponents 9-0 in the last 10 innings, I like our chances.
My alien is homesick
by Nordhagen on Sep 4, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok - we bring him in as the DH for the playoffs
by hoodlight on Sep 4, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
too late
had to be with us 9/1 for the play-off roster
Asked about his thoughts on the weekend, White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said simply, "Well, we came to New York and visited the new Yankee Stadium. It is a very nice ballpark. We also stayed at a very nice hotel. That's all I can really say about these past three days."
by e-gus on Sep 4, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And in March, as it seemed increasingly likely that Thomas’ playing career was ending, Williams and Sox chairman Jerry Reinsdorf let Thomas know that when he’s ready, they would like him to retire as a member of the organization. But it remained to be seen whether Thomas would accept their overture.
it’s been up to thomas for awhile.
by larry on Sep 4, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I seen him play for oakland
but never seen any footage of him batting for us, all I know is the numbers and the way people talk about him, and the way he left the club. That’s why I really hope it happens.
by hoodlight on Sep 4, 2009 1:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oakland Frank wasnt the real Big Hurt
He was a hitting machine in the 90s.
Asked about his thoughts on the weekend, White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said simply, "Well, we came to New York and visited the new Yankee Stadium. It is a very nice ballpark. We also stayed at a very nice hotel. That's all I can really say about these past three days."
by e-gus on Sep 4, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was still good in Oakland, particularly with the (presumed) lack of steroids and being pretty damn old
by Carbiner on Sep 4, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn right -- he was 4th in MVP voting with them in '06 (ahead of JD).
He was a freaking insane monster when he was young, though.
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 4, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's the reason I'm a White Sox fan
Trusty growing up with Frank demolishing everyone. Always pissed me off how few All Star games he went to though.
by Carbiner on Sep 4, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, only 5.
He was not an all-star in 1991, 1992, 2000 or 2006, and finished 3rd, 8th, 2nd and 4th (respectively) in MVP voting in those years.
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 4, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since he was the hero of my childhood years as well, I will never forget the literal enormity of him. I remember as a child, sitting along the Sox dugout and watching him warm up in the on-deck circle.
He was an absolute giant to behold.
Today was a nice day to be out for a walk, look through the window of a restaurant at 2:30, and discover that the Sox started at noon.
by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buehrle is what 6'2 220? He's tiny in comparison.

by Carbiner on Sep 4, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, maybe not tiny.
Much smaller? Something.
by Carbiner on Sep 4, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frank hated steroids
One of the few people that I can say for sure didn’t use them. He didn’t need them… probably hated them because it allowed people a way to catch up to him.
But Frank was incredible, I’m glad to have been able to see him play so many times. However, the guy was a major asshole.
by 815Sox on Sep 4, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe my hero-worship blinded (and continues to blind) me to his faults, but I never really got the whole Frank is an asshole thing.
Sure, there were a few incidents in which he said something semi-stupid (the Jackie Robinson comment) or was accused of being more concerned with personal goals than the team, but that kind of thing is said about most superstars, and everything always kinda seemed blown out of proportion with him. Did I miss something?
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 4, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I missed it too, if there was something.
Today was a nice day to be out for a walk, look through the window of a restaurant at 2:30, and discover that the Sox started at noon.
by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As you said, every athlete is more or less an asshole.
Guessing Frank was probably irritated by Griffey overshadowing him and his injuries limiting his potential so became more of an asshole over time, but no more-so than any other athlete. Our team is ostensibly the “bad boys” anyway so I don’t really get it. I’m positive AJ is much worse than Frank ever was.
by Carbiner on Sep 4, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
everyone has an asshole. and there are different kinds.
frank is a pouty asshole. supposedly. and no one like a pouter.
by larry on Sep 4, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah here we are
We’re dicks! We’re reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. And the Film Actors Guild are pussies. And Kim Jong Il is an asshole. Pussies don’t like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes: assholes that just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick, with some balls. The problem with dicks is: they fuck too much or fuck when it isn’t appropriate – and it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies can be so full of shit that they become assholes themselves… because pussies are an inch and half away from ass holes. I don’t know much about this crazy, crazy world, but I do know this: If you don’t let us fuck this asshole, we’re going to have our dicks and pussies all covered in shit!
by Carbiner on Sep 4, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, Frank often pouted about his contract.
He also never got along with a lot of his teammates because of the “me first” attitude he sometimes portrayed. However, there were a lot of players on his team and other teams that didn’t like how outspoken he was on the steroid abuse in baseball. Can’t blame him either if you look at the list of top MVP vote leaders and league hitting leaders numbers when Frank was putting up his monster numbers while clean. He had his faults but I always thought he got treated a bit unfair by Marriotti and a few others in town.
by mick10 on Sep 4, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frank was a stats guy.
His stats. I imagine that might – might – have gotten on a few teammates’ nerves. His poor personal decisions (marriage, agent) also bled into his professional life, as you might imagine it would for you. The klieg lights are a little brighter for him vs. you and me, to be fair, but such is fame.
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting article (biased) on Frank's treatment by Chicago press.
by mick10 on Sep 4, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From the WSI site.
Not all that objective.
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Like arguing who is “fair and balanced”, FoxNews or MSNBC.
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Summary:
“Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.”
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Sep 4, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frank had Scottie Pippen syndrome, didn't know when to bite his tounge.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Sep 4, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My uncle used to live a few houses down from him
The guy refused to sign autographs for the the children of his immediate neighbors
by 815Sox on Sep 5, 2009 5:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know someone and one of the highlights of his life
was when he was playing baseball with friends in front of his house and Frank comes out of their neighbors house to ask if he can play with them. I have a hard time considering someone an asshole when he comes out of his house to volunteer to pitch to random kids he doesn’t know. I’ve always been impressed by that story
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on Sep 6, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best right handed line drive hitter of his time.
Just a beast at the plate.
by Grinder in Training on Sep 4, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frank was a rarity
You stopped whatever you were doing to watch him hit. Kinda like Devin Hester returning kicks a few years ago.
"The next fu#&@ng person that walks across this stage is going to get fu#&ng killed, aright?"
by thekever on Sep 4, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frank Thomas was the Albert Pujols of the early 90s
Didn’t K a lot, hit well over 300, and destroyed ze ball.
by Carbiner on Sep 4, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got to see Frank hit his 400th HR and his 2000th hit in 2003.
Man, that guy was great.
by South Side Expat on Sep 4, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frank was fucking awesome
and he wasn’t that bad of a guy either. He was very pleasant when you met him. Way more so than Carlton Fisk and Jack McDowell were. Frank just didn’t know when he should bite his tongue- that was his problem.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 4, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
jack's a pretty nice guy when you meet him
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by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Sep 4, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
should have been a reply
sorry about that
by hoodlight on Sep 4, 2009 1:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
With the high volume of commenting today, I nearly missed that. ;P
He was in a league of his own…. I wish I could refer you to some great old footage.
Maybe someone else around here knows where to find that sort of thing.
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by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I respect Will Carroll but I saw this nugget from the latest UTK
. … It’s no surprise that Ozzie Guillen is talking about shutting down Jake Peavy. What is a bit surprising is that Guillen has this kind of power in the organization. …
I expect better from Will, of course crazy Ozzie doesn’t have trumping authority on this, although he might some influence…and Ozzie has a great rep for protecting pitchers.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Time out Greenbay. Tell that fucking bullshit to the tourists
by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 4, 2009 1:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and I hope the our boys sweep the Red Sox so Red Sox nation can suck it
Fuck Dustin Pedroia
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Time out Greenbay. Tell that fucking bullshit to the tourists
by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 4, 2009 1:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oh, i'm sorry. i didn't hear that. i was just polishing my MVP trophy.
by larry on Sep 4, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Time out Greenbay. Tell that fucking bullshit to the tourists
by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 4, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you don't live here
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Time out Greenbay. Tell that fucking bullshit to the tourists
by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 4, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's true.
but i do loves me some pedroia. and, unlike most, i think that commercial is fantastic.
by larry on Sep 4, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, you do have the hotties for the grinder
and i’m sure this was brought up before, but do you think splits against us helped delivered him the trophy?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Time out Greenbay. Tell that fucking bullshit to the tourists
by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 4, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure. but not like the white sox were the only team he shredded.
by larry on Sep 4, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true dat, and that commercial is pretty funny...
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Time out Greenbay. Tell that fucking bullshit to the tourists
by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 4, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Papelbon
and Youkilis…
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Time out Greenbay. Tell that fucking bullshit to the tourists
by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 4, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone heard whether or not gus throws out the first pitch
this month? Anyone know the date?
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 2:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
one of the playoff games I think. ;)
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Sep 4, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as we don't see him on the mound in the 8th anymore, I'm okay with it.
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by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
ha! booya!
I hope he shits a brick and writes a sweet acoustical country and/or western song about it… I’m okay with that!
"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote
by SkanchoDanza on Sep 4, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Happy...
InsideTheSoxRT @Southpaw Happy BDay to #WhiteSox brdcaster Hawk Harrelson.Look 4 a special surprise during 2nites game.sshh Don’t tell Hawk
What will it be? A chocolate covered Yaz? The head of alexei ramirez on a pole? Carlos Gomez singing ‘happy birthday, hawk’ like maryln monroe?
"ALL THESE WORLDS/ ARE YOURS EXCEPT/ EUROPA/ ATTEMPT NO
LANDING THERE/ USE THEM TOGETHER/ USE THEM IN PEACE"
by thecip on Sep 4, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
The head of Yaz next to the head ot Teddy Ballgame.
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bird against the quality start mastermind?
Pena or Linebrink?
by Carbiner on Sep 4, 2009 5:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
when you see it, you'll shit bricks
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by The Cheat on Sep 4, 2009 5:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I definitely feel a heavy shift in my bowels.
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by homesickalien on Sep 4, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey now
this isnt facebook
Asked about his thoughts on the weekend, White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said simply, "Well, we came to New York and visited the new Yankee Stadium. It is a very nice ballpark. We also stayed at a very nice hotel. That's all I can really say about these past three days."
by e-gus on Sep 5, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My bad. :)
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by homesickalien on Sep 5, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well at least he does something right.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 4, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't sell me the hooker with the heart of gold
2009: Not with a bang but a whimper.
by Andronicus on Sep 4, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does he do? Speak to schoolchildren?
I would pull my imaginary kids out of school so they don’t have to be brainwashed by his pro home run giving up message!!!!
by 67WMAQ on Sep 4, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joking aside - that's good stuff.
Is he having a rough year? No doubt. Is he a good human being and contributor to the community? All signs point to yes.
by 67WMAQ on Sep 4, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only you had a forum in which to communicate/investigate this.
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're up to speed on the Sox community outreach events
I get to cover a few. Last year, AJ and Toby Hall appeared at a summer safety event at the Cell.
AJ gave his chest protector to a chubby grade school student who broke his arm. Kid was thrilled.
by 67WMAQ on Sep 4, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally misread that.
“AJ gave his chest protector to a chubby grade school student whose arm he broke. Kid was thrilled.”
by Pander on Sep 5, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You want a friend? Get a dog.
FUCK YOU. THAT’S MY NAME.
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by winningugly on Sep 4, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bricks helped rebuild New Orleans after Katrina.
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