White Sox Avoid Arbitration with Tony Pena
by The Cheat on Jan 18, 2010 5:44 PM CST
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PrintThe White Sox have quickly settled on 1-year deals with three of their four arbitration-eligible players, Jenks and Quentin over the weekend, and Tony Pena to a $1.2M deal today. That leaves only John Danks, who is, no doubt, the Sox next long-term contract target. Danks is arbitration eligible until '12, and turned down a 4-year deal last season.
What's he worth?
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21 over 4.
"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"
5th year team option for 9mil
The Boogeyman cometh
by omnipotent grab on Jan 18, 2010 6:03 PM CST up reply actions
Or actually 11mil sounds more likely
The Boogeyman cometh
by omnipotent grab on Jan 18, 2010 6:06 PM CST up reply actions
4/28
With a 5th year team option.
http://twitter.com/FutureSox
Two options
4/26 with a mutual option
or preferred by me
as high as 4/29 with option for 5th year
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
I think it will be $26.5M on a 4-year deal
$3.5M in 2010
$4.5M in 2011
$7M in 2012
$11.5M in 2013
What did floyd get? $15/4, if I remember right? With an option year I think…
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
but a year earlier in his arb process
that’s a difference of ~ 10M on the endpoints
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that's basically jon lester's deal
it’s just missing the 3rd service year buyout.
2010 White Sox: Benching our way to the playoffs.
unfortunately I think only 3 years is a real possibility, but it will probably be 4
if JR chokes out 5, we know Kenny has him locked up somewhere
2010 White Sox - Benching our way to the playoffs.
by blackoutsox on Jan 18, 2010 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
Danks not worried
He's right in being confident.
Jordan being around gives him some leverage, also. 4 years, $30MM, team option for $10.5MM.
Wrigley Field is a postage stamp shithole. It reeks of piss worse than R. Kelly’s underage girlfriend. It’s falling apart faster than Amy Winehouse.
Their fans are denial-addled jagoffs of lowest stripe.
I see where you're coming from in a sentimental sense
but I really don’t believe it’d ever be a major factor in actual negotiations. Being totally serious: do you think Reinsdorf or KW honestly gives a fuck that they’re brothers? Do you think it matters that much to Danks? Do you think either side would blink if the other held this up?
Somewhat, don't you think?
Wasn’t the brother thing a factor in him being drafted where he was drafted? The Sox are huge on the “family” thing as it is.
Wrigley Field is a postage stamp shithole. It reeks of piss worse than R. Kelly’s underage girlfriend. It’s falling apart faster than Amy Winehouse.
Their fans are denial-addled jagoffs of lowest stripe.
I would think it's more of a leverage point for the Sox, if anything.
The White Sox have always had a hard-on for the Dankses. They drafted Jordan in 05.
by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 18, 2010 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
So how is that leverage for the Sox?
Sounds like you are saying they have been panting for anything Danks for 5 years. That would tend to raise the price, yes?
Wrigley Field is a postage stamp shithole. It reeks of piss worse than R. Kelly’s underage girlfriend. It’s falling apart faster than Amy Winehouse.
Their fans are denial-addled jagoffs of lowest stripe.
They didn't just draft Jordan because of his brother
they wanted, or at least drafted Jordan first. And yes, they have been panting anything Danks for probably longer than 5 years as I’m sure he was a favorite before the 03 draft when John didn’t make it to the Sox. Still, there has to be some sentimental value for John in playing with your lil’ bro.
by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 18, 2010 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
While digging through archives
I found this quote from Father Danks after Jordan turned down the Sox in ’05:
"My hope is that he enjoys a couple of years at UT before getting drafted by the White Sox. I love the White Sox. I hope they play in the World Series."
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
Reinsdorf has had more than a few conversations with Pop.
Sometimes that family stuff does go over rather well.
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
It makes for lovely quotes because both sides come out looking good
I just have serious doubts that it means anything right up until the reporters come into the room.
Both Dankses dumped Boras after the Sox drafted Jordan.
They played ball; now it’s the Sox’s turn.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jan 18, 2010 8:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm watching CNBC this afternoon, just coming out of a nap
and they start a program on gambling with the story of a guy who put $4K on the Sox at the beginning of the 2005 season. Sox were 50:1 odds to win it all. Guy wins $200K. The narrator then mentions the 1919 Sox’ demons being exorcised. Then the show is about the pervasiveness of illegal sports gambling.
Can’t EVER live that year down, can we.
Wrigley Field is a postage stamp shithole. It reeks of piss worse than R. Kelly’s underage girlfriend. It’s falling apart faster than Amy Winehouse.
Their fans are denial-addled jagoffs of lowest stripe.
by winningugly on Jan 18, 2010 6:59 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Everyone remembers the Black Sox scandal...but the Teapot Dome Scandal is lost to history.
They should make a movie. James Cromwell can play Secretary of the Interior Albert B. Fall.
amc is making a teapot dome scandal miniseries as we speak
seriously
Lurking since 2006
by boyonthedock on Jan 19, 2010 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
Up Next on AMC...
Tammany Hall – Behind the Music
Untold Heroes of The Whiskey Rebellion
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The Lousiana Purchase Exposed!
"anvil of sarcasm" - wu
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jan 20, 2010 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
76 days til opening day
If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA
by BoeJouma on Jan 18, 2010 7:30 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
You're forgetting to add what Mark Lowe and Jason Vargas got. Then again,
Danks is not that much more valuable than Lopez. Sorry, he’s just not.
by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 18, 2010 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
HOW FUNNY WOULD IT BE IF WE ALL DRESSED UP LIKE CUB FANS AND TRIED TO ATTACK
ZAMBRANO MID SEASON??? WILL BE POSTING ABOUT THIS SSS STYLE MEET-UP SHORTLY.
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 18, 2010 11:40 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
my bad
wrong thread.
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 18, 2010 11:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
that was just my guess at what he'll get
but i’m tickled it looked credible enough to be considered real ;)
yeah upon further review i realized that was a stupid question.
it’s too early and I had a long weekend, sorry bout that.
Packers done...now 3 months of sports hell.
Just visited espn.com's hot stove page,
and is projecting Andrew Jones to play RF, and Q to DH. I hadnt thought of this before but it make perfect sense if we were to not sign Thomer.Link
Packers done...now 3 months of sports hell.
also noticed Hudson is still a FA,
man its not gonna happen but itd be pretty sweet
Packers done...now 3 months of sports hell.
While it might make sense
Q doesn’t seem the type to do well as a DH. Plus Andruw Jones starting every day is not the plan.. at least I sure as hell hope not. There is no way you add guys like Peavy and Rios just to have Andruw Jones starting.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 19, 2010 9:11 AM CST up reply actions
phew.
and i was worried walk wouldn’t be able to fix him.
Five swings.
That’s all it took for Greg Walker to take a deep sigh of relief and realize that the enigma looked to be back to an All-Star.
No holes. No mechanical flaws. No signs of a player who was carrying the weight of the South Side on his shoulders.
Five swings.
…
‘’But to be honest, it took the first five swings in the cage to show me that he had passed the eye test. Mechanically, this is the Alex Rios I saw on tape when he was in Toronto.’’
This. This is the problem.
We tried to attack the problems that developed late last season, but when that didn’t work, we decided, ‘Well, let’s just give him some time off.’ My hope was that the time away would be what he needed, and the two or three things he developed would disappear.’’
some teacher...
This is the lesson I hear from Walker, “If you give a man a fish, he’ll eat for a day. If you teach a man to fish, boy, I tell ya what, sometimes the fish ain’t biting. Sometiimes ya just gotta relax and hope a fish jumps in your boat.”
by Mitch. on Jan 19, 2010 9:58 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Green.
That is outstanding.
Wrigley Field is a postage stamp shithole. It reeks of piss worse than R. Kelly’s underage girlfriend. It’s falling apart faster than Amy Winehouse. Their fans are denial-addled jagoffs of lowest stripe.
you left off the beginning of that quote which is the part i find to be a puzzler.
‘’There were some that felt we needed to change his mechanics,’’ Walker said. ‘’I wasn’t in that camp. I don’t think he needs a change mechanically.
(not to mention the change of tense in that last sentence)
if the change needed wasn’t mechanical, what type of problems were they trying to attack? emotional? astrological? i don’t get it.
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
Metaphysical-
The “Base Ball” that he was trying to “Hit” with his “Bat” was neither a ball, nor a bat, and could not be hit.
The first thing he needed to learn was that Baseball is suffering.
The second thing is that the source of this suffering is want, or desire.
The 3rd thing he needs to learn is that cessation of suffering is possible- the craving, the giving up and relinquishing of it, freedom from it, nonreliance on it.
The 4th thing is the path of this cessation of suffering is the Noble Eightfold Path:
Right Stance
Right Timing
Right Vision
Right Power
RIght Pitch Selection
Right Fouling Off
RIght Bunting
Right Intentional Walk Drawing.
By following the Path of the Walker, all things are possible.
"anvil of sarcasm" - wu
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jan 19, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
Rios' non-existent mechanical problem. It exists.
by The Actual El Guapo on Jan 19, 2010 6:56 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
heeeeeee
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
by homesickalien on Jan 19, 2010 7:22 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe there is such a thing as Ozzieball..
So, in 2009, who really was the most aggressive manager when it comes to stealing bases? Ladies and gentlemen… Bob Geren? Geren sent 166 percent of what a league-average manager would have done, outpacing Ozzie Guillen, who was in second place. What’s interesting to note is that Guillen, whose White Sox stole 113 bases (against 49 CS), was rated as more aggressive than Joe Maddon (third place), despite calling for 95 fewer stolen bases than Maddon. Guillen had a slower team to work with, while Maddon had Carl Crawford and B.J. Upton. The model corrects for this bias and shows Guillen to be the aggressive manager that his reputation suggests he is.
by gar ridge pride on Jan 19, 2010 9:13 AM CST reply actions
So many outs.
Fuck Ozzie Ball. FOB
The Boogeyman cometh
by omnipotent grab on Jan 19, 2010 9:26 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
...quietly waiting for kenwo to bring the boom...
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on Jan 19, 2010 9:30 AM CST up reply actions
It's surprising
That a position player does so well with his pitching staff.. but yet makes so many questionable decisions on the offensive side of the game.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 19, 2010 9:38 AM CST up reply actions
his overagressiveness might have cost 10 runs
enough to move us up from 13th to 13th.
he's a fucking moron.
all signs point to it. people will start to come around to the kenwo dark side. its just a matter of time.
Kenwo4life=ratings
So if we get Danks should we go as nuts as Lookout Landing is?
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2010/1/18/1258667/felix-mariners-agree-on-extension
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
If getting Danks leads us to trade him for a recently signed Felix Hernandez..
By all means.. take the day off of work, close down the bar, experiment with drugs, flip over a car, go streaking.. whatever it is the kids do these days to celebrate.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 19, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
Why would you get excited for someone who isn't as valuable as Jose Lopez?
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Jan 19, 2010 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
Sigh...
Joe Pos:
“Tony La Russa went to the microphone and ripped the writers, like he always does. That always plays well with the crowd. Lou Brock talked about the winner of the "Lou Brock Stolen Base Award" never shows up (Michael Bourn did not show up this year either) and so he has a collection of Lou Brock Awards in his trophy case. Mark Buehrle announced (again) that he hopes to play for the Cardinals someday.”
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2010/01/19/denkinger/#more-3010
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
Danks - 1 Year 3.45 Million
RT @ESPNChicago: BREAKING NEWS: Source: White Sox, John Danks agree to 1-year, $3.45 million deal to avoid arbitration. www.ESPNChicago.com
huhWHAT?!!
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
by homesickalien on Jan 19, 2010 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
Danks is either banking on 20 wins this season....
or the sox are being cautious. Which one is it???
Kenwo4life=ratings
Both?
The Sox didn’t agree to a 4th or 5th year? So Danks signed for 1?
Not sure I see a problem here with him under control ’till ’12, right?
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
no problem...
just surprised they didn’t lock up a long term deal like they did with Floyd last year.
Kenwo4life=ratings
the sox locked up floyd during spring training after they had agreed to a 1-year contract in january.
this doesn’t change anything.
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