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The Hypothetical Danks Extension

Cot's Contracts.  It exists.

Cheat tasked me with figuring out what Danks' extension, if any, would probably look like.  Whatever the terms reportedly agreed to on Tuesday for the 2010 season, it's unlikely that either side was very far away.  Obviously the sticking points come farther into the uncertain future.  Given that, I searched Cot's Contracts for reasonable points of comparison.  

1) I looked for contracts signed by starting pitchers that gave the team control through their arbitration years and into free agency signed after the '06 season, with Brandon Webb a convenient anomaly (he was right next to Dan Haren on Cot's).  

2) Club options are not denoted, but it's almost one per contract.  Presumably, there's a decent chance Danks' hypothetical extension would contain a club option.

3) Felix's contract has been estimated using Tango's .4/.6/.8 rule of thumb.*

4) Just to refresh, after 3 years of service with the major league club, a player becomes arbitration eligible.  After he has completed 6 years of service and is no longer under contract, he becomes a free agent.  Danks will begin the first of his arb-eligible seasons in 2010.  

PlayerYr SignedArb 1Arb 2Arb 3FAFA
Jon Lester '09 3.75 5.75 7.625 11.625 13
Gavin Floyd '09 2.75 5 7 9.5  
Josh Johnson '10   3.75 7.75 13.75 13.75
Felix Hernandez '10   11 14 18 18
Zack Greinke '09   3.75 7.25 13.5 13.5
Scott Baker '09 3 5 6.5 9.25  
James Shields '08 2.5 4.25 7 9 12
Scott Kazmir '09   6 8 12 13.5
Adam Wainwright '08 2.6 4.65 6.5 9 12
Dan Haren '09   7.5 8.25 12.75 12.75
Brandon Webb '06 4.5 5.5 6.5    
Matt Cain '07 2.65 4.25 6.25    
Fausto Carmona '08 4.9 6.1 7 9  
Chris Young '07 2.5 4.5 6.25 8.5  
Cole Hamels '09 6.65 9.5      
Paul Maholm '09 2 4.5 5.75 9.75  
Jeff Francis '07 2.75 3.75 5.75 7  
             
             
Average   3.38 5.57 7.34 10.90 13.56
             
           

 

So we'd expect Danks to get something like 4 years for $26-30MM and a club option for $12-14MM in 2014. Averaging CHONE and Fangraphs, Danks' has been worth 4.75 WAR per season over the last two.  If we expect 3.5 to 4.5 wins per full season pitched under the hypothetical contract, Kenny would pay $1.75MM per win.  That's compared to about $4MM on the open market.  Even if Danks misses a season entirely, that only raises Kenny's rate to $2.33MM per.  It makes me wonder if players shouldn't be buying insurance to help them get to free agency.

 

*.4/.6/.8 refers to the percent of the value of the contract they'd receive for that season on the open market for the 1st/2nd/3rd years of arbitration. Felix's contract buys out the last two years of arb and three FA years, for a total of $80MM. So the estimate looks like .6x + .8x + x + x + x = 80. His open market value is about $18MM/year, which makes those two years of arb worth ~ $25MM. It also means that the CBA is forcing him to leave about $11MM on the table.

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Packers done...now 3 months of sports hell.

by OznCoop on Jan 19, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Cheat has no gag reflex.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 19, 2010 9:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Happy Birthday Ozzie…… Never too early to get on the manager’s good side!

http://twitter.com/ESPY_TEAHEN

by larry on Jan 20, 2010 8:39 PM CST up reply actions  

rec'd

nice work colin

We just need to execute better - Lovie Del Negro

by Illini0509 on Jan 19, 2010 3:57 PM CST reply actions  

i think we should sign all of our good players for a long time

and cheaply. and replace our bad ones with better ones.

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Jan 19, 2010 4:15 PM CST reply actions  

wow, very professional.

Packers done...now 3 months of sports hell.

by OznCoop on Jan 19, 2010 5:06 PM CST up reply actions  

The free agents aren't included

Putz, Vizquel, Castro, and Jones put the total at 99.4-ish. Wouldn’t want anyone to think we have money to sign Thome…

by whitesoxjohn on Jan 19, 2010 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

that's sure to be reciprocated by arbitration, spiked salaries and getting worse.

I wonder how much the pick-ups this offseason will amount to. I’m hoping for at least 1/5 of their salary.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 19, 2010 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Rios, future statue in 2014

The world needs the Jedi now more than ever

by Carbiner on Jan 20, 2010 9:36 AM CST up reply actions  

interesting numberstats

now please fetch me one jimthome and designate him for hitting

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by billyok on Jan 19, 2010 6:25 PM CST reply actions  

Nice, great read.

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 19, 2010 8:03 PM CST reply actions  

You have mastered the art of ass kissing over the past couple of weeks.

:|

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 19, 2010 9:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Jesus Christ t-bag

Go take a Valium.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 20, 2010 1:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

The Sox bunted.

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 20, 2010 1:21 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Fields, of all assholes!

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Jan 20, 2010 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

My new fb profile pic....

;p

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Jan 20, 2010 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

No I think its MY fb profile pic!

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 20, 2010 5:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope, too late, mine.

Not really, you can have it. I like mine:

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Jan 20, 2010 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey! He stole that move from Stone Pony!

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Jan 19, 2010 9:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Who stole it from Scott Brown

Ted Kennedy’s senate seat is still in hirstute hands.

by 67WMAQ on Jan 20, 2010 8:24 AM CST up reply actions  

meant to hit the cancel button, but the fates demanded I post, apparently.

Should have read “Whats with the Cheat Porn? You’ll get him in trouble with his mom….”

"anvil of sarcasm" - wu

by DrEmilioLizardo on Jan 20, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for the effort cheat/Colin

I would say this is pretty easy to figure out without Colin breaking it down for you retards. How about more posts on the possibility of prince or a-gone being traded to the white sox???

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 19, 2010 9:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

The only good reason to not have Thome signed yet....

is because Kenny’s waiting on Damon. His price is coming down by the hour, and he should be all over that situation.

by dantesox on Jan 20, 2010 11:42 AM CST reply actions  

Steve Goldman over at Baseball Prospectus

says it’s the Twinks and Tigers who will be battling it out foe Central Division honors….no mention of the Sox.

by dantesox on Jan 20, 2010 11:53 AM CST reply actions  

I'm not sure about that...

however, I do think the Tigers, upon further investigation, will be a potential contender. Earlier I had sort of discounted them.

by dantesox on Jan 20, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

The Twins/Tigers/Sox

Pretty much have the same question marks.

by 67WMAQ on Jan 20, 2010 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Well that's rather silly

I doubt even BP’s own projection system will back that up. The Tigers need several things to go right as of now.

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 20, 2010 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

It was just a lazy response.

The Jackson trade was fine. I am a big fan of Scherzer and like him better anyway. But yes Granderson is gone as is Planco. They have several holes. Its implication is that Verlander, Scherzer and Porcello CAN be a scary trio. Duh So what. Peavy, Buerhle, Danks and Floyd IS a scary foursome. As I said I doubt their projection system backs him up.

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 20, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

His implication....

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 20, 2010 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

and yet

their projection system is often wildly off regarding the white sox. a bit of art, not all science.

by larry on Jan 20, 2010 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

The White Sox have heart

did you forget?

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 20, 2010 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I know Kenwo did.

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 20, 2010 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you kidding me???

BP NAILED the sox in 07’. Although every last one of us could have told bp we were going to suck!

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 20, 2010 1:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

They didnt nail anything

They were right for the wrong reasons.

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 20, 2010 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Dear god tdogg

Whoooooooosh

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 20, 2010 1:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

You haven't heard?

Im working on passing Microsoft Exams and sleeping with white women instead. But not the good ones though or else Larry will sic a vicious dog on me and blow me away with a waterhose.

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 20, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Oh and he's pimping HSA.

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 20, 2010 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

HSA seems so lonely.

i’ve already tried colin and cheat. figured maybe she’s looking for a more mature, colorful man who can take care of her needs. and wears a greg norman straw hat, of course.

by larry on Jan 20, 2010 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm done with "nice" and "considerate" and "loyal" when I seek men.

Now it’s all about the Greg Norman hat.

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Jan 20, 2010 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

HSA

Is it true you need your loins smashed? WU will hit that shit, he may be rusty though considering his wife hasn’t slept with him since his honeymoon!

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 20, 2010 1:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

thats just not true.

everyone knows he got some like 4 months ago.

by Trooper on Jan 20, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, you're "working on" that.

until you finish, though, you’re stuck with white men.

by larry on Jan 20, 2010 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Rumor is black guys got big ones!

Thanks but I’ll stick with my anal vibrator.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 20, 2010 1:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

They have bragged in the past and used 07'

As “I told you so” year. Atleast in the sox case.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 20, 2010 1:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

He is the reason bp charges.

So they can make money with their unproven scientific theory.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 20, 2010 1:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

[x]

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jan 20, 2010 2:53 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

A popular songwriter who penned such classics as

Lincoln Park Pirates, City of New Orleans, A Dying Cub Fan’s Last Request, and..

Oh, wait, that was Steve Goodman.

by 67WMAQ on Jan 20, 2010 5:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Detroit needs more pitching

Before they should be considered contenders.

by justjc on Jan 20, 2010 12:26 PM CST reply actions  

chicago needs more offense

before they should be considered contenders.

by larry on Jan 20, 2010 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Not to nitpick

But Chicago’s pitching is good enough to consider them a contender….

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 20, 2010 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Contending for the AL Central is not the same as contending for a title.

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 20, 2010 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Sure it is

For 800th time all you have to do is GET THERE. Whew. I feel better now.

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 20, 2010 5:47 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

and the Sox have the biggest market in the ALC

2010 White Sox: Benching our way to the playoffs.

by colintj on Jan 20, 2010 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

something something tallest midget

2010 White Sox: Benching our way to the playoffs

by Scotty Ballgame on Jan 20, 2010 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

competitive advantage?

 teams with bigger markets get bigger returns every additional game won. JR said all they try to do is break even, so the more revenue per win the Sox receive than some other team, the more that can be spent to gain that additional win.

2010 White Sox: Benching our way to the playoffs.

by colintj on Jan 20, 2010 7:23 PM CST up reply actions  

So it translates to more payroll? I'm not sure I follow...

Detroit has outspent the Sox the last couple years and the Twins may be within 10 mil of the Sox this year.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 20, 2010 7:31 PM CST up reply actions  

tigers have outspent the sox overall since 2005.

and considering their payroll will be about $25M higher in 2010, only going to increase that gap.

by larry on Jan 20, 2010 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

the only real advantage ive seen for the tigers

is the fact that they are willing to sign high priced draft picks, getting guys say 26th in the draft when he was a top 5 talent, then having a surplus of arms to trade for Cabrera.

"I think that's a lot of horse muffins." - Bob Feller

by e-gus on Jan 20, 2010 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, but according to Colin they don't have the biggest "market."

I’m not sure what I’m missing. Is it the difference in the philosophy of the owners that’s making the drastic payroll difference?

by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 20, 2010 7:48 PM CST up reply actions  

yes.

illitch can eat the loss to some degree. the team isn’t his only investment.

2010 White Sox: Benching our way to the playoffs.

by colintj on Jan 20, 2010 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

if you believe forbes

the white sox don’t really have that much higher revenue than the tigers.

by larry on Jan 20, 2010 7:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm assuming by "break even" that JR is saying

all revenues received will go to the team. If your market is bigger, then your revenues are larger than your opponent at a given number of wins. There’s a lot more to it that just that though:

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/diamond-dollars-the-economics-of-winning-in-baseball-part-1/

2010 White Sox: Benching our way to the playoffs.

by colintj on Jan 20, 2010 7:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Gennaro has them flip flopped, but still close

i was exaggerating a bit, but i assume it’s more than because of 2005 that the Sox have outspent them so badly?

2010 White Sox: Benching our way to the playoffs.

by colintj on Jan 20, 2010 7:18 PM CST up reply actions  

and you don't like the prospects of a team in Chicago

over a team in Detroit or Cleveland?

2010 White Sox: Benching our way to the playoffs.

by colintj on Jan 20, 2010 7:25 PM CST up reply actions  

perhaps.

but perhaps not when one has an owner that operates to break even and one has an owner that routinely spends more than the team brings in.

by larry on Jan 20, 2010 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Pizza! Pizza!

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Jan 20, 2010 7:31 PM CST up reply actions  

that's going to be reined in somewhat if they just sold off

Granderson

2010 White Sox: Benching our way to the playoffs.

by colintj on Jan 20, 2010 7:40 PM CST up reply actions  

ot, but how is Granderson not worth investing in?

he is owed $5.5MM this year and 8.25 the next for his 4ish wins. nothing that played out in that trade was obviously a coup for detroit.

2010 White Sox: Benching our way to the playoffs.

by colintj on Jan 20, 2010 8:19 PM CST up reply actions  

he's worth investing in.

of course, there are other things that are worth investing in, too.

you’ll rarely find deals that are coups.

by larry on Jan 20, 2010 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Except Andruw Jones for $500K!

Coup deVille!

Wrigley Field is a postage stamp shithole. It reeks of piss worse than R. Kelly’s underage girlfriend. It’s falling apart faster than Amy Winehouse. Their fans are denial-addled jagoffs of lowest stripe.

by winningugly on Jan 20, 2010 8:41 PM CST up reply actions  

also

the conclusions in nate’s follow up reflect my intuition

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6184

2010 White Sox: Benching our way to the playoffs.

by colintj on Jan 20, 2010 8:42 PM CST up reply actions  

lots of different ways to measure market.

that was the point of the links.

and any methodology that finds the red sox are behind the white sox is either doing it wrong or asking the wrong question.

by larry on Jan 20, 2010 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

i still feel pretty comfortable with the claim

2010 White Sox: Benching our way to the playoffs.

by colintj on Jan 20, 2010 9:02 PM CST up reply actions  

the claim is wonderful.

equating market with revenue, which is what you’re using it for, is not so wonderful.

by larry on Jan 20, 2010 9:05 PM CST up reply actions  

you're going to have to be clearer

I thought the mistake I made was equating market size with budget?

2010 White Sox: Benching our way to the playoffs.

by colintj on Jan 21, 2010 2:08 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I ran across that Dodger sim guy the other day.

His projection system must have a stick up its ass about the White Sox. They suck every year. This year though he predicted an awesome 18 WAR from the White Sox pitching.

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 20, 2010 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

The ws are good enough to win the division.

It’s the playoffs that I’m worried about. I want to win like the angels do in the regular season and win like the Yankees in the playoffs. Is that too much to ask?

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 20, 2010 1:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

the playoffs are a crapshoot

2010 White Sox: Benching our way to the playoffs.

by colintj on Jan 20, 2010 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

IIRC

The two best teams in each league faced off in the past 2 world series.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 20, 2010 4:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

should i even say

sss?

2010 White Sox: Benching our way to the playoffs.

by colintj on Jan 20, 2010 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

It's almost a trend? Sss for sure.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 20, 2010 5:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

There is no reason they can't win the division this year.

Not with that sp.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 20, 2010 1:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

The return of jc2313???

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 20, 2010 4:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

We should be so lucky!

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Jan 20, 2010 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought he was funny and knowledgeable.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 20, 2010 5:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Friendly warning for any of you attending Soxfest

If you park in my garage and block my car in, do not expect to find your car in the condition in which you left it

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by billyok on Jan 20, 2010 1:23 PM CST reply actions  

what if there is a note on the car that says something like...

(just an example, names totally made up to protect the innocent)
“Dear billyok, Its me Trooper. Pease don’t damage my car. I’ll bring you some fruit. Thanks.”

by Trooper on Jan 20, 2010 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

If you know which car is mine then why would you specifically block me in?

Sounds malicious to me. Sorry, I’m ramming my way out.

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by billyok on Jan 20, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

exmample. yes.

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Jan 20, 2010 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

no shit. what if it's cold out? i'm supposed to let it freeze?

next week marks the start of any day now. expected date is 3 weeks. yikes.

by Trooper on Jan 20, 2010 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

heh. Enjoy the home stretch....

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Jan 20, 2010 2:01 PM CST up reply actions  

you've got it wrong

the delivery IS the home stretch…

by Shakey on Jan 20, 2010 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

We know what really gets stretched...

Wrigley Field is a postage stamp shithole. It reeks of piss worse than R. Kelly’s underage girlfriend. It’s falling apart faster than Amy Winehouse. Their fans are denial-addled jagoffs of lowest stripe.

by winningugly on Jan 20, 2010 8:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Nothin' says lovin' like somethin' from the oven!

One word of advice: sleep while you can.

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Jan 20, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

you can keep sniffing glue either way

2010 White Sox: Benching our way to the playoffs.

by colintj on Jan 20, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Holy shit

Does this mean vegans can eat sausage?

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by billyok on Jan 20, 2010 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I hate vegans.

(no offense to your gf, Shakey, or other vegan readers).

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Jan 20, 2010 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

True encounter with a vegan:

While camping on the peninsula last year, I noticed three 20-something lads camped somewhat close to me.

They seemed clueless about the whole camping process.

They had giant logs for firewood, and the only thing they brought to chop it, was a shitty hatchet from REI.

So, after getting a good laugh out of watching the one guy go after a huge log with a little hatchet, being nice and well-equipped and experienced campers, we gave them our ax to use.

The guy of the three who decided he was up to the chopping task, happened to have a tattoo down his shin – BIG BLACK BLOCK LETTERS, ALL CAPS – from his knee to his ankle, that read: VEGAN.

The fucker put his first piece of wood on a rock, took a hearty swing of the ax, and slammed the ax against the rock. Completely missed the wood and ruined our blade.

Stupid vegan.
These assholes would be the first to die if they ever had to survive outside of their hipster city comforts.

And you know what?

I’d chop him up and eat that bitch.

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Jan 20, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Humans are omnivores.

If you cannot eat the flesh of something then you are not an omnivore.

Therefore, Vegans are not Human.

It is fitting and proper that you cannot trust a vegan.

(and Welcome, Kristina!)

"anvil of sarcasm" - wu

by DrEmilioLizardo on Jan 20, 2010 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

as if some noodle-armed sprout eater could save me from falling off a cliff anyway

the good news is that vegans usually are too horrifically boring (and listen to too much godawful coffee shop music) to get close enough to develop any level of trust in the first place.

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by billyok on Jan 20, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Intense. Look out for vegans in dark alleys or on cliff ledges.

Bienvenue!

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Jan 20, 2010 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Overly verbose? Female (presumably)?

HSA better watch out!!!

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 20, 2010 4:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Foorrrrrrr.........vegans?

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Jan 20, 2010 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

lmao

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 20, 2010 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

The more I read that vegan post the funnier it gets

How do you come out with a first post like that? Who are you really?

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 21, 2010 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

the space and closing line are what seal it for me.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jan 21, 2010 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Mike murphey swears that

Tony Larussa rents out a private section at a particular steakhouse, then proceeds to eat a 22 oz. Steak. Don’t know if it’s true but pretty funny. Poser.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 20, 2010 4:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Yes but does that tree have a Greg Norman hat?

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Jan 20, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

"White Sox Announce Active Roster Reduction to 24"
White Sox General Manager Kenny Williams told the media today that, due to the loss of 7-11’s sponsorship of the 7:11 game time, the White Sox will reduce their active roster to 24.

“The sponsorship was for $500,000,” said Williams. “That’s a lot of money and we were counting on it. Unfortunately, that means we will have to cut the payroll by a commensurate amount. Ozzie [Guillen] will simply have to make due with a six man bullpen.”

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20100120&content_id=7942752&vkey=pr_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

by larry on Jan 20, 2010 4:48 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

that KW is such a card.

"I think that's a lot of horse muffins." - Bob Feller

by e-gus on Jan 20, 2010 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Knee-slapper, lar.

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Jan 20, 2010 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

:(

.

2010 White Sox: Benching our way to the playoffs.

by colintj on Jan 20, 2010 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

that sig is mine

asshole

(I kid I kid, but I had it first)

2010 White Sox - Benching our way to the playoffs.

by blackoutsox on Jan 20, 2010 5:46 PM CST up reply actions  

prove it

2010 White Sox: Benching our way to the playoffs.

by colintj on Jan 20, 2010 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

no it's mine!

2010 White Sox: Benching our way to the playoffs

by Scotty Ballgame on Jan 20, 2010 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

actually you both pay me

it was my rant.

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 20, 2010 7:09 PM CST up reply actions  

.

2010 White Sox: Benching our way to the playoffs.

by colintj on Jan 20, 2010 7:19 PM CST up reply actions  

In case you're late to the party

My package is different. My book IS different.

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 20, 2010 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I know plenty of white chicks who would probably fuck T and aren't trailer trash.

Trashy perhaps, but I don’t even know much what he looks like and neither do they, but that’s not the defining factor here.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 20, 2010 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

How do you know my wife?

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Jan 20, 2010 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

lmao

this whole thread is out of control!

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 20, 2010 7:53 PM CST up reply actions  

isn't it assumed that sigs are quoting someone else?

who quotes themselves in a sig?

2010 White Sox: Benching our way to the playoffs.

by colintj on Jan 20, 2010 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

u got that right.

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 20, 2010 7:28 PM CST up reply actions  

God bless him.

2010 White Sox: Benching our way to the playoffs.

by colintj on Jan 20, 2010 7:40 PM CST up reply actions  

hsa 'likes' her own facebook updates

similar

"I think that's a lot of horse muffins." - Bob Feller

by e-gus on Jan 20, 2010 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

My name is hsa

and I like the shit I post on facebook.

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Jan 20, 2010 9:24 PM CST up reply actions  

PR.

Wrigley Field is a postage stamp shithole. It reeks of piss worse than R. Kelly’s underage girlfriend. It’s falling apart faster than Amy Winehouse. Their fans are denial-addled jagoffs of lowest stripe.

by winningugly on Jan 20, 2010 8:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I win
2010 White Sox
Benching our way to the playoffs.

“Oh well back to work”
by Tdogg on Jan 12, 2010 1:23 PM PST reply actions 1 recs

 

thank you
2010 White Sox – Benching our way to the playoffs.
by blackoutsox on Jan 12, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

and I even gave Tdogg his credit

link

2010 White Sox - Benching our way to the playoffs.

by blackoutsox on Jan 21, 2010 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

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