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An Unladylike Reflection On The Gentleman

Look at him clogging all over the basepaths. Pathetic.

Look at him clogging all over the basepaths. Pathetic.

Everything is so much clearer now that I've had a night to sleep on this and take a lot of drugs.

As though last Friday's rumors didn't forebode yesterday's events, I still clung to some superfluous shred of hope, that Ozzie and Kenny would not be so dumb as to allow Jim Thome to go unsigned; in turn pushing him into the open arms of the Twins.

You know Nick Punto was the first to call and say hi. 
The doucheclown.

Alas, nobody was able to knock sense into Ozzie's thick skull, and so it is...the most devastating event since 9/11: Jim Thome signs with the Twins for $1.5 million (and some incentives). 

I know Jim Thome was not everyone's cup of tea, what with his lacking speed and being on base all the damn time - the combination of which was downright offensive and unbearable (aesthetically-speaking, of course).

I also know that a bunch of you em-effers are on diets, depriving yourselves of delicious carbs - like taters, for example - because you want to appear a certain way...even if it's not all that healthy or natural or fun.

But once again, the widespread devastation among most Sox fans is not just a matter of Jim Thome (though he does hold a special place in most of our hearts, for good reason).

The bigger problem is Ozzie's deliberate omission of a left-handed power bat, from a lineup that will be supporting one of the greatest pitching staffs in the game.  And not just an omission - it's a full-on straight-faced rejection of the cheapest, most solid lefty power bat on the market.  A guy who wanted to play for the Sox.  A guy who can bring a 5-0 game back into reach with one swing of his mighty bat.  Just a nice guy to have around; not playing for your division rivals.

We are actually paying Mark Kotsay more money to be in our everyday lineup, than we were willing to pay Jim Thome.

For shame! 

Star-divide

Of course, I choose to remain somewhat positive.  Hell, I'm pretty sure that's what life is all about anyway.

Though I will admit this is my least-favorite Ozzie/Kenny moment of them all so far. 

And this is the one that makes me most question my faith in our management and my ability to really believe that they wouldn't do that, they couldn't do that, they wouldn't let this one by, they wouldn't bring Linebrink in right now, they will not rely on a few mediocre bench players to fill out an offense so essential in completing a team that has a real fighting chance at a title...

But aside from my loss of faith and my listlessness over continuing to defend those two and their roster tomfoolery, I have hope yet.

1. The off-season is not over.  Perhaps the backlash of the Thome non-signing will inspire KW/OG/JR to pursue Damon.  A Damon signing might just renew my faith, but it will cost us more than the pocket change required for Thome, and it will require that KW puts his Boras bias on the side.  If he can do it for Jones, I would hope such a ridiculous rationale would not stop him from going after Damon (or any of the other high profile guys Boras reps, or will rep in the future).  But we'll see.

2. Further hope remains within me, that Gardenhire will "misuse" Thome and will stunt his production.  Maybe Thome will be limited to pinch-hitting most of the time.  I am torn between being a Thome fan and wishing him well on his travels; and being a Twins-hater, loathing all things related - especially if said things help them win the division. 
What a crappy predicament! 

It's as if Thome has died to me.  Or worse, it's as if Thome has brought home a boyfriend.   

3. Surely Quentin is going to stay healthy.  Right?  RIGHT?!  A healthy, '08-esque Q would do wonders for us.  Unfortunately, most of us are too exhausted from all the hopefulness for the same last year, that the Return of Q! seems like a fantasy now, a stretch really. (heh...stretch)

4. A full season of Beckham!  Hoorah!  Flowers on the horizon! Yippee!

5. Peavy, Danks, Buehrle, Floyd, Freddy!  Hoorah!  Bullpen looking not too shabby either... not that we'll need them! 

 

Baseball is full of miracles.  I know I've witnessed a few and I'm just a (relatively) young piece of shit. 

It's not easy to keep your chin up when something like this happens, but it's not like we were exactly stoked for our upcoming offense in January 2005 either.

The commiserating is free to abound, and I'm still pissed as hell, but I refuse to allow Ozzie to numb my excitement over our rotation. 

So here's to hoping for another acquisition - a bat, preferably - before the season starts.   
Here's to hoping the damage against us is not so severe.
Here's to hoping for the resurrection of Q!, Jones, Rios, Pierre, Putz, and Teahen to name a few.
Here's to hoping for a full year of production from Alexei, Beckham, Buehrle; and the good ol' consistency we've come to expect from AJ.   

And most importantly, here's to hoping for a 2010 division title that very easily should be ours, with or without a diet full of mashed taters.    

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fuck it

Actually, my official rule is to just keep it out of the headlines. When I feel the need in a story i try to be creative. Sometimes you just gotta let it out though.

by The Cheat on Jan 27, 2010 12:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

And I have abided by the headline request, yes yes.

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd eliminate the "f"-bomb,

as we want to class it up a little bit.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Who is "we" exactly?

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I speak for all posters hoping to gain national recognition through anonymity.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

That's why you're all pussies.

Can’t wait til I get fired when my future employer sees this. As a matter of fact,

fuck you, I probably hate you by now.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 28, 2010 7:18 PM CST up reply actions  

the royal "we"

no?

We just need to execute better - Lovie Del Negro

by Illini0509 on Jan 27, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

The editorial - ...

?
;)

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Great high school and college memories.

TY.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 5:33 PM CST up reply actions  

There's no traffic in class.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Jan 27, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

what are you saying Jim?

oic

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Jan 27, 2010 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

the font, it burns! too much serif.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jan 27, 2010 12:47 PM CST reply actions  

I tried to change it, but it deleted the whole post because my work computer is a giant turd.

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

when using word to write,

don’t just cut and paste directly into the site, use the ‘paste from word’ button.

by larry on Jan 27, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

she's gonna screw it up.

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Jan 27, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

The process of writing/editing is fascinating.

More, please. HSA, what monitor do you use at work? How did you insert the Game 163 photo?

YahooSports is salivating at running this.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

With the SBN story formatter thingamabob....

I think that’s what it’s called. yeah.

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Can it!

:)

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Sounds like he is saying "cannot it".

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

But I just did it too! Now will you go back and give me a jump? Cuz I did mess that up in my fixing...

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes!

More editing! You folks are responsive as hell. Thank you.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

And the 4th is too busy wondering if it's a man or a woman to really give a shit.

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

(jump after "for shame", as it was plzkthx)

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

The first time I fucked it up? pssh. Like I can keep all my failures in numerical order!!!

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I had not used that button before, but I did now. Done fixed.

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

NO!!!

I want more. Please unfix so we can see more process.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

There should be a fanpost on said process

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Jan 27, 2010 1:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Most enjoyment I've had has a Sox fan this offseason.

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Jan 27, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

What about Castro!

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

damn thats a lot of clean up!

WordUpThome: WILL I BE REQUIRED TO PLAY INSIDE OF THE TRASH BAGS OR SIMPLY AMONGST THEM

by e-gus on Jan 27, 2010 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

No kidding... I didn't think it was THAT much of a mess. ;)

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

TWHS.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

with that sig, you could probably cut everything but the TWSS jokes

and get away with it.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Jan 27, 2010 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Isn't there hope in Teahen to increase his HR total

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Jan 27, 2010 12:56 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

sorry premature post

increase his HR total based on playing more games at the Cell and less games at Kauffman?

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Jan 27, 2010 12:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

teahen has roughly a 525 slugging in about 170 ABs at us cellular

that would be neat it comes to fruition. I am not holding my breath

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Jan 27, 2010 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, I will say that of all guys brought in this winter, Teahen has the best chance of being good

He’s 28 and moving to a better hitting park. I still don’t think spending $ on him was a good idea and I think his D will be bad but he could put up a .780 OPS or something. So, I can imagine a Sox scout or KW convincing themselves Teahen will end up being a decent hitter.

I can’t see how anyone can look at Kotsay and Jones and think they should be a platoon DH.

by hitlesswonder on Jan 27, 2010 1:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Power outage for the new guys

Teahen, Vizquel, Pierre, and Jones – combined ’09 HRs – 30

Thome and Dye – combined ’09 HRs – 50

Just sayin’

"One more game and then we can blow this son of a b@#$* up!" - Hawk Harrelson on his thoughts regarding the Metrodome

by tailgater on Jan 27, 2010 1:24 PM CST reply actions  

Thome? Dye? Base cloggers!

This isn’t softball. Those lost home runs will be more than made up for by the increased speed on the basepaths and all the outs the Sox will run into this season. Somehow.

by hitlesswonder on Jan 27, 2010 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't forget bunting and the fact that speed does not slump!

bwahaha!

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Too bad you can't steal first.

"One more game and then we can blow this son of a b@#$* up!" - Hawk Harrelson on his thoughts regarding the Metrodome

by tailgater on Jan 27, 2010 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I see your point

But a marginally improved Carlos Quentin and Alex Rios get you over the hump.

by 67WMAQ on Jan 27, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

the sox offense kind of sucked last year.

saying these guys can match that performance isn’t saying much.

by larry on Jan 27, 2010 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

But a good year if you are a caterpillar/snail thingy

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Jan 27, 2010 1:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Or an owner of an epileptic dog.

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Do loud noises cause seizures?

I thought that was flashing red lights.

"One more game and then we can blow this son of a b@#$* up!" - Hawk Harrelson on his thoughts regarding the Metrodome

by tailgater on Jan 27, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought it was so the dogs wouldn't be spooked...

…causing them to leave extra “gifts” along the concourse.

"One more game and then we can blow this son of a b@#$* up!" - Hawk Harrelson on his thoughts regarding the Metrodome

by tailgater on Jan 27, 2010 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

thats gotta be the hardest ticket to get all season.

WordUpThome: WILL I BE REQUIRED TO PLAY INSIDE OF THE TRASH BAGS OR SIMPLY AMONGST THEM

by e-gus on Jan 27, 2010 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

o...kayyyy.... this still doesn't explain why they don't shoot dogs on fireworks days.

The MS Paint snail/slug/firework ms painting should have made an appearance with this post.

by Mitch. on Jan 27, 2010 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

So, do epileptic people have seizures caused by fireworks?

If so, it’s safe for them to come back to the park now.

"One more game and then we can blow this son of a b@#$* up!" - Hawk Harrelson on his thoughts regarding the Metrodome

by tailgater on Jan 27, 2010 2:03 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

rec’d

Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game in 2008. Thanks John Danks and Jim Thome.

by NorthSidePaulie on Jan 27, 2010 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I think that's just frowned upon in our culture, but I dunno.

Ask and Mitch shall receive:

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

They have? Really?

Great. Now all they need to do is ditch the fucking air show and we’re set.

by Sox-35th on Jan 27, 2010 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

and Taste of Chicago

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Jan 27, 2010 2:01 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Lost in the shuffle of all this editing excitement

I agree with all your points HSA. I’m still mad about the Thome thing but I’m hopeful for this season and it is not like everything is settled in stone. I’m hoping that Teahen is the next KW’s genius move that we didn’t see coming. I think the defense particularly the outfield will be better this year and Teahen cannot be worse than Googles/Fields. The bullpen moves have largely been overlooked besides the annual Jenks is Fat headlines. There is just a lot of ifs with this team that need to go right and that worries me

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Jan 27, 2010 1:55 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I was but then I had a 5-hour energy

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Jan 27, 2010 2:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

"I use it, I love it"

Not sure if you guys get the commercial w/ Osi from the NY Giants, but it’s pretty awesome

by Q!'s Qrew on Jan 28, 2010 6:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Well

at least we’ve got something to talk about. Besides the Hawks, there hasn’t been much to discuss on the Chicago sports landscape prior to spring training.

We just need to execute better - Lovie Del Negro

by Illini0509 on Jan 27, 2010 1:56 PM CST reply actions  

Is "Chicago sports landscape " a Sodfather reference?

Nice!

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Jan 27, 2010 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't wait to see what this season's ad campaign is

White Sox Baseball: No moar baseclogging

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Jan 27, 2010 2:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Whoa whoa whoa whooaaaa.

We can’t curse in headlines, but you’re going to make that the site slogan?

That’s fucked up, Cheat.

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I feel a "your best season slogan thread" is needed.

Though after “benching our way to the playoffs” I can’t think of anything else.

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 27, 2010 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

That's a big rec, Doc.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Step 1 of India's takeover of baseball complete.

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 27, 2010 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Step 0.

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 27, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Excellent.

I hope it stays all year, until we win the 2010 WS.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 5:35 PM CST up reply actions  

That's rich.

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 27, 2010 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

White Sox Baseball: OK For Epileptics Now Too

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

WSB- Seizure Safe!

Conniption-free fandeck now open.

Drunk Tank Mace

by DrEmilioLizardo on Jan 27, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Gretzky and Messier were rolling over in their graves last night. The Hawks looked like they had a man advantage in the Oiler end all night.

San Jose tomorrow. Should be fun.

Thome who? Another one of those big, dumb, white, Twin base clogger? I can’t keep those guys straight.

by Mitch. on Jan 27, 2010 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

missed last night's game

the second line is going to be scary when bolland comes back.

We just need to execute better - Lovie Del Negro

by Illini0509 on Jan 27, 2010 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

earlier i made the mistake

of going to a different, unnamed site where they discuss the white sox in an interactive manner and which i hadn’t been to in a year or more. i only made it through 2 pages of comments. it was amazing. virtually the exact opposite of SSS. one guy expressed some concern that perhaps not signing thome was the wrong course of action and everybody else ridiculed him. fascinating.

you are certainly one of the more ridiculous people on this board. ~ larry

by BuehrleMan on Jan 27, 2010 2:16 PM CST reply actions  

portprude. heh.

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

to be honest

the comments were so terrible that i was cringing as i read them and instead of reading an entire comment i only read until i got the gist of it then i would look away.
here’s one i read completely though.

I’m curious to see where he ends up. I doubt the Twins but if he does no big deal. Joe Crede didn’t exactly help the twins win it all when he left the Sox for them.

you are certainly one of the more ridiculous people on this board. ~ larry

by BuehrleMan on Jan 27, 2010 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

It's the SSS Xanax site.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

In other words

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Jan 27, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Check the

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Jan 27, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

right rail and you'll see

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Jan 27, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

there's a whole thread

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Jan 27, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

about that.

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Jan 27, 2010 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Burma Shave!

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

damn son.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Jan 27, 2010 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Is this soon-to-be-depressed f***ed cake eaten material?

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

That has to make Damon available...

He’s the only available bat that makes any sense in the Sox “plans,” which means he as about a 0.337% chance of signing here.

by The Cheat on Jan 27, 2010 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

We should shoot Damon 8 times in the face?

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 3:34 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I'll see your sigh and raise you a whoosh.

(even if I did get the number of shots wrong off the top of my head)

On April 24, 2000, Jackson was attacked by a gunman, alleged to be Darryl “Hommo” Baum, outside his grandmother’s former home in South Jamaica, Queens. He went into a friend’s car, but was asked to return to the house to get jewelry. His son was in the house while his grandmother was in the front yard.6 Upon returning to the back seat of the car, another car pulled up nearby. An assailant then walked up to Jackson’s left side with a 9mm handgun and fired nine shots at close range. He was shot nine times: in the hand (a round hit his right thumb and came out of his little finger), arm, hip, both legs, chest, and left cheek.5925 The face wound resulted in a swollen tongue, the loss of a wisdom tooth, and a small slur in his voice.

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Then why you gotta be all like "sigh" and "50 cent?" I knew what you were getting at with the $.50 ref.

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, well thank you for being so devoted that you'd waste your time to tell me so.

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

You guys are having a day, aren't you?

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

This is like a weekly occurrence now. larry's flirting has gone to defcon-3.

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 27, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

You have an interesting interpretation of flirting, young lad.

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Jan 27, 2010 4:32 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

HE'S ON FIRE!

(for all you really OPOSs)

WordUpThome: WILL I BE REQUIRED TO PLAY INSIDE OF THE TRASH BAGS OR SIMPLY AMONGST THEM

by e-gus on Jan 27, 2010 4:37 PM CST up reply actions  

the sonics were awesome

shawn kemp and detlef schrempf. unstoppable

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 27, 2010 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I preferred the Bullets

With Webber, Juwan Howard and Calbert Channey

by joewho112 on Jan 27, 2010 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes.

Plus the name: Bullets. Perfect.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 5:16 PM CST up reply actions  

wu, you aint never played no nba jam.

opos!

WordUpThome: WILL I BE REQUIRED TO PLAY INSIDE OF THE TRASH BAGS OR SIMPLY AMONGST THEM

by e-gus on Jan 27, 2010 6:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Did too.

Had an 8 year old stepson in the mid-’90’s. Played it all the time for a couple of years.

YPOS.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 6:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

that game wasn't around in the 1890's

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 27, 2010 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Hornets were my go-team

’Zo and Grandmama.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Jan 27, 2010 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Barkley+KJ=ballin.

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 27, 2010 5:53 PM CST up reply actions  

any team, any time

i’d take you all out.

WordUpThome: WILL I BE REQUIRED TO PLAY INSIDE OF THE TRASH BAGS OR SIMPLY AMONGST THEM

by e-gus on Jan 27, 2010 6:18 PM CST up reply actions  

My former step-son's favorite team was the Suns.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 6:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

BOOM-SHAKA-LAKA!

hehe

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Jan 27, 2010 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

it works.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Jan 27, 2010 8:44 PM CST up reply actions  

crap, so that's why I'm in love with larry.

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

That's some Hallmark card shit right there.

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 27, 2010 10:25 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

"got shot 9 times that's why I talk with a lisp"

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 27, 2010 9:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

True, I think Thome/Damon would cost more

But Damon’s getting low on opportunities. Supposedly the NYY offered $2M. So paying something like $6M to get both Thome and Damon might have been feasible.

by hitlesswonder on Jan 27, 2010 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I do not think so.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

it appears that it may not be that far from feasible

$1.5M for thome and $5M for damon now looks like it may be right.

by larry on Jan 27, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

In hindsight, perhaps.

No one (except you) thought Thome would go for <$3-4MM, and very few thought Damon would get Abreu 2009 money. But I hear you.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

ahem

Im on record as saying Thome would not get 3-4 million. Golf clap.

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 27, 2010 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

golf clapping yourself?

aww are you the guy who tries to start slow claps? don’t be that guy.

by Jack M on Jan 28, 2010 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

musical chairs.

we saw it last year. most people seemed to think it would repeat, particularly with DHs. KW chose to strike early with his acquisitions. perhaps that would have been prudent if one were scooping up elite players. i guess KW wanted january off.

by larry on Jan 27, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

VG.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 5:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm too lazy to check, but after Cust (or Glaus) signed I think I said something along the lines of, "I doubt Thome gets much more than $3 million

in any case, it’s wrong to say “no one” thought Thome would go for less than $3-4 million. The fact of the matter was that his market was limited to less than five (if that) teams, and the market for DHs (or players who should be DHs) was already suppressed.

by CWSKeith on Jan 27, 2010 5:23 PM CST up reply actions  

$3MM is different than $1.5MM.

Yadda, yadda. Tell me you were not shocked that it was $1.5MM, or Kotsay fodder.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 5:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Reading is important.

“Less than $3-4 million.” Shocked? No, not really. Mildly surprised? Maybe. Cust got $2.65 and he can at least stand out in LF or at 1B once a week. And again, how many teams were interested Thome? I read or saw Minnesota, Tampa Bay and the Sox, and none of the three were willing to give him the title of being their full-time DH. I’d also venture to guess that the Sox had a pretty good idea of what it would take to bring Thome back, so I’m not really sure what hindsight has to do with evaluating the Thome situation.

by CWSKeith on Jan 27, 2010 5:54 PM CST up reply actions  

there isn't much of a market

the teams that often come up regarding Damon are the As, Reds and Tigers. Seems like the As may be the only team that could afford him. But again, we’ve gotta deal with the Boras Dilemma.

If he signs for ~5 and its not with the Sox, I’d be disappointed. If the money was there for Thome (2-3m), you’d think they could add a few mil to get back some good will with the fans. Wait, most of the fans prefer the rotating DH idea. Nevermind.

We just need to execute better - Lovie Del Negro

by Illini0509 on Jan 27, 2010 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

and he's a veteran.

don’t have enough at-bats to sufficiently respect him.

by larry on Jan 27, 2010 3:48 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Podsnoir will DH.

Look at how well Pods as DH worked.

by joewho112 on Jan 27, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

from what larry's saying healthwise

it might be a better option than playing kotsay at all.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Jan 27, 2010 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Damon isn't coming to the sox.

I would be absolutely shocked. I think they really think that Kotsay will play like September Kotsay. IF Damon came aboard…. it may make things look a little differently. Though I think they still will play Pierre in the leadoff position.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 27, 2010 4:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I like

vs RHP
1. Damon DH

9. Pierre LF

vs. LHP
1. Pierre or Damon LF

4. Q! DH
6. Jones RF

Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game in 2008. Thanks John Danks and Jim Thome.

by NorthSidePaulie on Jan 27, 2010 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

i would be too

but he fits very well in the Sox supposed plan to declog. not to mention there’d be somewhere for him to play if Kenny went and got a real DH/1B type during the season. ain’t a crime to put Pierre on the bench for Damon in Ozzie’s eyes, right? if the Sox wanted to add some credibility to their claim, that’d be a way to go. And they could still pretend they didn’t miss the market with The Versatility Show without alienating the stupid fans who thought Thome should be gone.

Damon is probably a win or two better than Pierre, which means paying about market rate for WAJP if you can get him for 5MM. That’s worth it for the Sox unless they’re really overrating their team right now.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Jan 27, 2010 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

guillen would never bench pierre.

he thinks he is the cats meow.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 27, 2010 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I would love it, though I think ozzie would keep him 5th or 6th as a power bat

and put him in at DH, and we can rotate paulie, pierre, Q and once in a blue moon, Jones

RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010

an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry

by blackoutsox on Jan 27, 2010 10:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Dumbass.

Everyone knows that the OF is filled, and Damon’s arm isn’t good enough to play DH for Ozzie Guillen.

by BridgeportJoe on Jan 27, 2010 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Defense from the DH!

RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010

an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry

by blackoutsox on Jan 27, 2010 10:30 PM CST up reply actions  

HSA is wrong

as are the rest of us base-clogger wanna-be’s are. The Trib had themselves a good old fashioned vote:

Thome or part-time DHs?
Only a few teams have full-time DHs. Ozzie Guillen said Mark Kotsay, Andruw Jones, Paul Konerko, Omar Vizquel and Carlos Quentin could split time for the White Sox. Would you prefer that … or Jim Thome, all the time?

Full-time DH in Thome (1184 responses) 38%

Part-time DHs in Kotsay, Jones, Konerko, Vizquel, Quentin (1965 responses) 62%

3149 total responses

(Results not fucking correct)

by jimmyjr on Jan 27, 2010 3:15 PM CST reply actions  

you know, one could just sign thome and insert him into a DH rotation.

like how the twins did. but only churlish asshats such as the twins would disrespect a veteran like thome by doing that. look at their manager belittling thome:

“We just signed a guy that’s going to be in the Hall of Fame, and it doesn’t get much better than that. One of the classiest acts in the game, a great hitter, a great player and great for our clubhouse,” Gardenhire said. “I think it’s a joy just to watch him walk up to the plate. He looks like stinking Babe Ruth, and he takes swings like Babe Ruth. We’ve seen too many fly against us. Now let’s see some fly for us.”

unfuckingbelievable how they’re going to disrespect him.

by larry on Jan 27, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

asshat=Sphincter Beret

Wasnt that a Prince song?

Drunk Tank Mace

by DrEmilioLizardo on Jan 27, 2010 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Whatta dick.

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Im calling AARP

I know Thome is not 50 but Ozzie is clearly discriminating against him for a job in the dh rotation. Maybe we should go find a middle aged white male inste—-wait…..

Back to Microsoft tests I got goals. Screw this Thome crap.

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 27, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I saw this last night.

“Stinking” Babe Ruth has to be an edit, I imagine, by Teh Twinn scribes.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

isn't there an internet service that mails shit to people?

does anyone know kw’s address?

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Jan 27, 2010 4:37 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

"Further hope remains within me, that Gardenhire will misuse Thome and will stunt his production."

I find Gardenhire a rather smart manager. The guy who will have less ABs than he would have had before Thome is Delmon Young.

My only hope now is that Thome’s less effective due to fewer ABs.

Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game in 2008. Thanks John Danks and Jim Thome.

by NorthSidePaulie on Jan 27, 2010 5:47 PM CST up reply actions  

He is, he is... but when Thome is DH, it means Kubel is in the field... which is also to their disadvantage.

So I’m just interested to see how Gardenhire juggles them and how much PH’ing (= less ABs/less effectiveness) Thome does in the end.
Hopeful, as I said.
Still…. would be nice to have Gardenhire’s problems atm.

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I just meant defensively. Kubel bat > Kubel glove.

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

kubel glove=young glove

kubel bat>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>young bat

"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik

He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST

by U-God on Jan 27, 2010 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

You sure are cantankerous for a young guy.

Has Marquette won lately?

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm glad you're not building the team.

The Thome experiment led us to 1 playoff appearance. I also remember Dewayne Wise being the sox MVP in that series. Just sayin. There was obviously a severe flaw in the way the offense was constructed. Move on, quit bitchin, kenny will get a bat if he needs one.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 28, 2010 9:57 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

now you're speaking my language.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Jan 27, 2010 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Even without Thome, the Twins lineup can still hit the damn ball.

Thome is cheap, and a known quantity. I think the DH by committee, especially THIS committee is a terrible, terrible idea.

But according to some, the rest of the Sox lineup is a disaster waiting to happen. How does Thome change that?

How does any dedicated, full time DH change that?

Even with Thome, Juan Pierre makes outs, Gordon Beckham can still have a sophomore slump, Queintin can still get hurt, Rios can still be a head case, Teahen can still underwhelm, and Alexei still has a hard time hitting in cold weather.

The philosophy is maddening. But if you think the other 8 hitters suck, the DH ain’t gonna help.

by 67WMAQ on Jan 27, 2010 3:35 PM CST reply actions  

But a decent DH might help enough

And then you could trade to replace your LF when he sucks instead having to use up your trade bait to replace the sucky DH.

by hitlesswonder on Jan 27, 2010 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Is it your intention to now rail

constantly on Pierre now?

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Jan 27, 2010 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Forget about Pierre

The point I was going for is that if DH isn’t a hole needs to be filled, you can trade Morel+whatever to fill a different hole.

by hitlesswonder on Jan 27, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

That's assuming KW is allowed to trade for a straight-up DH

He might have to acquire a guy that can play the OF or 2B/3B for that guy to fit on Ozzie’s team. In that case, the price would be higher.

by hitlesswonder on Jan 27, 2010 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

TDogg <3 Pierre

WordUpThome: WILL I BE REQUIRED TO PLAY INSIDE OF THE TRASH BAGS OR SIMPLY AMONGST THEM

by e-gus on Jan 27, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Well duhhh. He's dainty and smooth and throws like a white woman!

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

The lineup could go either way

Rios, Q!, Alexei, & Teahen are being counted on to outproduce their ’09 selves, with them also counting on some improvement from Beckham….

If those guys play as last year, they’re fucked.

which underscores why you need a guy like Thome, and not another 3 scratch-off tickets…

by The Cheat on Jan 27, 2010 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

How does PK feel about this?

Didn’t he sign that deal in 2005 because the Sox landed Thome? Wouldn’t he ask Kenny for some protection in the lineup?

by 67WMAQ on Jan 27, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Paulie and Harold just chat idly in the corner

their sullen faces cast down.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Jan 27, 2010 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely it will help.

But how much?

Is the DH the player that pushes a good offense over the top? Or merely a good hitter on a bad team?

If you read some of the posts the last two days, all of the hitters will underperform. In that case, the DH ain’t gonna help you catch Minnesota. Or any of the potential wild card contenders.

by 67WMAQ on Jan 27, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

i think thome is worth 10 runs more than what the sox currently would be playing.

whether that gets a good offense over the top, is a good hitter on a bad team or something else strikes me as missing the correct question. the sox could have a pretty poor offense and still compete in the AL central.

by larry on Jan 27, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

The Sox lineup isn't likely to be a disaster

it could be with some bad luck. Either way, Kenny’s throwing 100 million at this thing and not getting to the playoffs.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Jan 27, 2010 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

this is a pretty good write up.

but i think kubel plays left and thome dh’s vs. righties. so you have to face
Span
Hardy
Mauer
Morneau
Kubel
Thome
Cuddyer
Punto/Harris
Punto/Casilla

Thats a pretty damn good lineup. If their pitching has a remotely decent year it is going to be tough for the white sox to win….. whether or not they play inside or out.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 27, 2010 4:29 PM CST reply actions  

I'd probably slot Hardy down

but whatever, point made. That’s a sick lineup against righties.

vs. RHP in ’09

Span: .303/.385/.389
Mauer: .377/.462/.641
Morneau: .279/.379/.526
Kubel: .323/.397/.619
Thome: .262/.383/.498

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Jan 27, 2010 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

.377 against righties?

mercy

We just need to execute better - Lovie Del Negro

by Illini0509 on Jan 27, 2010 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

it looks like Mauer is missing from the projection.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Jan 28, 2010 1:59 AM CST up reply actions  

For your 500 fans?

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 5:18 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

That looks like Lillibridge in a Beckham costume.

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

not just any bacon

that is magic bacon. The stuff Q! eats on his unicorn and Gentleman Masher …..oh, oh, tears…..f*ck.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 27, 2010 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

THIS is why I lurk around here.

Laffin and rec’d

Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game in 2008. Thanks John Danks and Jim Thome.

by NorthSidePaulie on Jan 27, 2010 8:29 PM CST up reply actions  

go back to communist China

let everyone take a day to mourn. We lost a loved one to satan (Punto).

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 27, 2010 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Who is crying?

Or maybe you missed the “it’s not all about Jim” part.

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

This one too

Especially because it fits my understanding of “base clogging” which isn’t about reaching base but being able to take more than one at a time.

Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game in 2008. Thanks John Danks and Jim Thome.

by NorthSidePaulie on Jan 27, 2010 8:33 PM CST up reply actions  

the best tenacious D sketch was when they fought over Flourna the clogger.

WordUpThome: WILL I BE REQUIRED TO PLAY INSIDE OF THE TRASH BAGS OR SIMPLY AMONGST THEM

by e-gus on Jan 27, 2010 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Susan Boyle?

Packers done...now 3 months of sports hell.

by OznCoop on Jan 28, 2010 8:06 AM CST up reply actions  

As upset as I am about KW and OG being idiots and passing up on Jim Thome...

The offseason isn’t over. And while there really aren’t left-handed power bats left, other than Delgado, there are still a few free agents left on the market that rank anywhere from decent to good. Dye, Garko, Damon, Crede, and Mora. And a few of these guys would fit in well with the whole rotating DH concept. Don’t get me wrong, I think Thome was probably our best option. I’m one of The Masher’s biggest fans and I’ve been pissed the last few days. But what was it Kenny said? “There’s always one more move to be made”?

I think something else is going to happen. I don’t know what, but I think we’ll get one more bat. Why do I get the feeling that Ozzie would rather have JD back over Thome? All he did was preach about how great of a leader Dye is. Not to mention that in a rotating DH/platoon role Dye still has some value. Just depends on if he’s willing to accept that kind of role and only a couple million dollars. Crede can’t stay healthy for a full season, so he’d be a solid guy to platoon at 3rd with Teahen, occasionally man 1st, or step into the DH spot. Damon, if he can be afforded, fits perfectly into this whole plan of Ozzie’s. And Mora would be a decent option as well.

I just hope something along these lines gets done before the season starts.

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jan 27, 2010 8:05 PM CST reply actions  

Dye doesn't want to DH, let along platoon DH

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 27, 2010 8:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I know. Everyone and their grandmother has heard that.

But Dye is going to have to learn to take what he’s offered or he’s gonna be spending the season sitting at home envying Andruw Jones.

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jan 27, 2010 8:18 PM CST up reply actions  

you think he is only going to get offered a platoon DH spot?

highly unlikely. He might not get the money he thinks he deserves…but that is about it.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 27, 2010 8:27 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm saying we have the ability to offer him a RF platoon/rotating DH spot on our roster.

And I haven’t heard of him getting any better offers. Have you? mlbtraderumors.com isn’t exactly overwhelmed with Jermaine Dye rumors. I like Dye, and I still think he’s a fully capable full-time player. But he isn’t receiving a ton of offers now is he? #1 He obviously isn’t going to get the money he originally wanted. #2 How many teams are begging JD to play right field for them? Until he receives a better offer than what we have available, I’m not going to pretend that there are a ton of teams demanding Jermaine’s services.

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jan 27, 2010 8:35 PM CST up reply actions  

It isn't happening

Ozzie likes his flexibility with Kotsay, Jones, Paulie and Q! at DH. He isn’t going to add JD to this mix. He didn’t think he could get Thome enough at bats, Dye likely wouldn’t get many more. I don’t see Dye taking an offer for this reason alone, unless it is the only offer he receives.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 28, 2010 7:19 AM CST up reply actions  

After hearing the news yesterday

It felt a lot like anticipating a good game on the weekend and having to sit through an Ozzie Sunday lineup

by airnjp on Jan 27, 2010 8:13 PM CST reply actions  

How Did Slow, Powerful Walk-Taking DH-types Get So Underrated?

It’s a weird phenomenon around the league, but ever since everyone started gawking over guys like Jason Bartlett and Franklin Gutierrez for their defense, the same types guys that Billy Beane identified as undervalued back in the early aughts are undervalued yet again…..

Offense is 50% of baseball….the rest is divided between pitching and defense. I’m not sure how it has become so ignored. Is Joel Piniero really worth more than Jim Thome?

pnoles, www.firejaymariotti.blogspot.com

by pnoles on Jan 27, 2010 8:34 PM CST reply actions  

Kenny Williams (and Ozzie) has been licking his chops ever since he saw the 2008 Rays.

I think he wants to assemble a team like that. Not to mention that it was a good team on a budget. Small ball, or Ozzie ball as it has been called from time to time, is being given much more credit than it deserves. I like to call it “style points”. Sure, going from first to third is a useful quality in a team. Stealing bases is awesome. Squeeze and sacrifice bunting is neato. But you know what? When the Sox are down 4 to 0 they’re gonna need the long ball to get them back in the game.

You wanna know what happened? The 2008 White Sox happened. What was it that everyone said was our biggest flaw? “The White Sox depend too much on the homerun!” ESPN, The Sun Times, the Tribune…everyone was saying it. BULLSHIT. The homerun was NEVER what was wrong with this team. Anyone who has bought into that idea is retarded. You wanna know what was wrong with this team? Clutch/Situational hitting. With a man on third and less than two outs, you can hit a homerun, you can hit a single, and hell a goddamn sac fly will get that run in. It doesn’t matter. But we couldn’t do that. We couldn’t get the standard base hit. That doesn’t mean that homerun = bad. It means we needed clutch hitting. Guaranteed clutch hitting and hitting with RISP isn’t something you can just go out and buy or trade for. Unless you are getting Pujols. It’s a season to season thing that relates to luck and whoever happens to be hot at that time.

Manufacturing runs is glorious. And it can help you win a lot of games. But the point I’m trying to make is that the White Sox didn’t need to go the polar opposite direction from 2008 to be successful. Power is an essential quality to any modern day major league ballclub. Yeah, suck on that Ozzie. So let’s back it up to where I was at last paragraph. “The White Sox depend too much on the homerun!” Guess who had their feelings and their pride damaged most by this repeated statement? Kenny Williams and Ozzie Guillen. Ozzie moreso than Kenny. Because Ozzie prides himself on his small ball. And what is that oh so famous bible quote? “Pride goeth before the fall”. Remember that when going into this 2010 season.

And let’s pray that we pick up another bat.

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have fifty cents." - Kenny Williams

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jan 27, 2010 9:11 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly.

I think overall KW has done a good job of finding a way to keep the White Sox in contention on a semi-regular basis. Maybe I’m the only one, but I really got the sense that Ozzie and Kenny wanted to be like the 2008 Rays.

I just finally saw this gem from Ozzie. “I’d rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.” Right, because it makes total sense to turn down a guaranteed minimum of 50 RBIs and go with the possibility of having someone drive you in after stealing second.

"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jan 27, 2010 9:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Fanpost?

hee

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Should I?

"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jan 27, 2010 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

No.

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 9:36 PM CST up reply actions  

That's what I thought.

"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jan 27, 2010 9:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I love the second paragraph

RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010

an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry

by blackoutsox on Jan 27, 2010 10:32 PM CST up reply actions  

this was nice.

i know some people don’t believe in clutch… but rest assured every time Juan Uribe or Carl Everett came up in 2005 with a man on third…that run was going to score somehow (usually a sac fly).

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 28, 2010 1:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Crede had a knack for that whole clutch thing.

Unfortunately Crede can’t stay healthy.

"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jan 28, 2010 1:11 AM CST up reply actions  

false

WordUpThome: WILL I BE REQUIRED TO PLAY INSIDE OF THE TRASH BAGS OR SIMPLY AMONGST THEM

by e-gus on Jan 28, 2010 8:40 AM CST up reply actions  

each of them had 10 sac flies that season

thats quite a bunch. last year alexei was our leader with 8.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 28, 2010 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

It doesn't hurt that the 2008 Rays

Had Carl Crawford and BJ Upton in their outfield, not Juan Pierre, Alex Rios and Andruw Jones

by MS22 on Jan 28, 2010 3:38 AM CST up reply actions  

3 is more than 2

The world needs the Jedi now more than ever

by Carbiner on Jan 28, 2010 9:17 AM CST up reply actions  

True

But I’d rather have just Crawford and Upton playing left-center and right-center as opposed to what we’ve got now. Throw-in Iwamura and I’m golden.

by MS22 on Jan 29, 2010 6:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree with S2LB completely...

Our team lacks power to the point that if we’re down 3 in the 9th I don’t think we have much of a shot. I do not like having to hope that 5 guys can have bounce back seasons in order to think our team has a shot.

by victorypie.com on Jan 29, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Even with Thome's Sox death, being a Cub fan is worse:

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Baseball-Hall-of-Fame-denies-Andre-Dawson-Cubs-request-must-enter-as-Expo-012710

Schadenfreude is a wonderful thing.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 27, 2010 9:05 PM CST reply actions  

This is an outrage!!!!

How did hsa get a editor spot on here over me? I keep it short, simple, and most of all… I DELIVER!

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 27, 2010 9:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

heh. heh heh. hehheh. heh. hoooo.

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Slam dunk.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 27, 2010 9:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Can't buy a Lexus with that kinda cashflow

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 27, 2010 9:46 PM CST up reply actions  

It's a throwback

93’

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 27, 2010 10:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

it's spelled throwaway.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Jan 27, 2010 10:02 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Mm I don't need to prove shit to you.

You are beneath me. YOU WILL BOW TO ME!

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 28, 2010 10:02 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

lexus?

oh i meant 93’ Camero with a silver neckless, mullet, and a coke spoon.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 29, 2010 5:44 AM CST up reply actions  

$

don’t worry though, you’ll find someone who’ll treat you worse than you’ve ever dreamed of. - MM

by homesickalien on Jan 29, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Sssh

Don’t encourage him!

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Jan 29, 2010 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

yikes.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Jan 29, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I know. The neck-less scare me too.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Jan 29, 2010 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Soulja Boy lost his neck :(

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 29, 2010 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

:(

 :((

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 29, 2010 5:46 PM CST up reply actions  

any time you want to ride around in luxury... you let me know.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 29, 2010 5:51 PM CST up reply actions  

hmmm...... looks like the gas pedal is stuck.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jan 29, 2010 6:26 PM CST up reply actions  

nah, the floormats on this one are fine.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 29, 2010 8:40 PM CST up reply actions  

that's an 03

"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik

He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST

by U-God on Jan 29, 2010 6:27 PM CST up reply actions  

good point

do you really think i would brag about a 93?

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 29, 2010 8:38 PM CST up reply actions  

you have been

"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik

He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST

by U-God on Jan 30, 2010 1:40 AM CST up reply actions  

sarcastically

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 31, 2010 5:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I knew you'd be proud. Thank you for your ongoing support.

Though it worries me that you’re just now noticing this, big guy.

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Lots of mobile posting so it's hard to tell who is an editor.

My trailer park community doesn’t believe in cable.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 27, 2010 10:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

"How cheerful. My parents never believed in toys."

A pat on the ass to the first person who can tell me what that quote is from.

"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jan 27, 2010 10:08 PM CST up reply actions  

/crickets

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 10:18 PM CST up reply actions  

It has only been ten minutes.

Give it time. Damn…

I’ll give you a hint though. It’s from the only existing sequel to Ghostbusters.

"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jan 27, 2010 10:20 PM CST up reply actions  

It was a joke, implying that the prize at hand made answering undesirable.

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 10:43 PM CST up reply actions  

In other words,

whoooooosh

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 27, 2010 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

No I get it. I wasn't genuinely offended.

However I always thought that a solid pat on the ass and baseball went hand in hand.

"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jan 27, 2010 11:15 PM CST up reply actions  

or hand on cheek

as it were

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Jan 27, 2010 11:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Touche'

"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jan 28, 2010 12:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Fair enough. :)

But I do like to think of everyone here at SSS as a team. A team fighting against baseball ignorance. Glares at Ozzie and KW…and Twinkie Town. And I also like to think of myself as the Tyler Flowers of said team.

"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jan 28, 2010 12:06 AM CST up reply actions  

wud a flowerz by any other name smell az stinky?

WordUpThome: WILL I BE REQUIRED TO PLAY INSIDE OF THE TRASH BAGS OR SIMPLY AMONGST THEM

by e-gus on Jan 28, 2010 8:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Wear it

"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jan 27, 2010 9:53 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

The world needs the Jedi now more than ever

by Carbiner on Jan 28, 2010 9:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Give me Orlando Hudson.

by Franchise82 on Jan 27, 2010 10:04 PM CST reply actions  

thatd be sveet

Packers done...now 3 months of sports hell.

by OznCoop on Jan 28, 2010 8:12 AM CST up reply actions  

wow

"there's just not enough at bats. ___ is a veteran. and he must be respected." ~larry, 1/26/10

by homesickalien on Jan 28, 2010 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

you just blew georgia o'keefe

’s mind

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Jan 28, 2010 9:29 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

THE WALL, baby.

If I ever took acid it would’ve been during that movie.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 28, 2010 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah that IS fun.

or so Im told…

WordUpThome: WILL I BE REQUIRED TO PLAY INSIDE OF THE TRASH BAGS OR SIMPLY AMONGST THEM

by e-gus on Jan 29, 2010 5:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Pollenating. Yes.

You hor-ticulturalist, you.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Jan 28, 2010 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

That is so cute, you hardly notice the stack of dead bodies in the background!

don’t worry though, you’ll find someone who’ll treat you worse than you’ve ever dreamed of. - MM

by homesickalien on Jan 28, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Toasting in an epic bread

The world needs the Jedi now more than ever

by Carbiner on Jan 28, 2010 9:16 AM CST reply actions  

vs

The world needs the Jedi now more than ever

by Carbiner on Jan 28, 2010 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

New thread without Jews pretending to be Italian.

Kthx

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 28, 2010 10:05 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

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